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Religion / Re: It Is Not By Force To Give Offerings And Tithe by Ubenedictus(m): 1:13pm On Jan 08, 2023
donbenie:
Lol..
I'm not here to teach you history..
Christians were persecuted and exterminated to almost extinction..
Until a Roman Emperor adopted it as the state religion..
Do your research..
Or why do you think the main offshoot of the original church is called the Roman Catholic Church?


the original church is called "Catholic Church" not roman catholic church, it was the anglicans who added "roman" to it because the anglicans wanted to also claim to be catholic.

there was already the catholic chuch ling before it became a state religion in rome
Religion / Re: Why Write About The Orthodox Church? by Ubenedictus(m): 1:10pm On Jan 08, 2023
https://www.goarch.org/-/the-basic-sources-of-the-teachings-of-the-eastern-orthodox-church#:~:text=In%20Holy%20Orthodoxy%2C%20the%20interpretation,Church%2C%20with%20its%20infallible%20authority.


enjoy reading what the orthodox believe

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Religion / Re: January 7th Is Christmas In Ethiopia by Ubenedictus(m): 1:06pm On Jan 08, 2023
AntiChristian:


Jesus was not born on any of those days! Quit forcing lies on me!
nobody forced anything on you, if you dont want to read a comment just scoll past
Religion / Re: January 7th Is Christmas In Ethiopia by Ubenedictus(m): 1:05pm On Jan 08, 2023
1Dray:


But Jesus wasn't really born on 25th of December.
https://www.nairaland.com/2060260/yes-christ-really-born-december
Religion / Re: January 7th Is Christmas In Ethiopia by Ubenedictus(m): 1:00pm On Jan 08, 2023
If you don't understand me kindly do your on research, search the julian calender, the coptic calender and the gregorian calender.


these things are not hard to find, please make your own research and crosscheck before you go on the attack.
Encyclopedia1:

See where this one turn am. �. Una no get anything unifying. All na based on ur thinking.
Religion / Re: January 7th Is Christmas In Ethiopia by Ubenedictus(m): 5:48pm On Jan 07, 2023
AntiChristian:
Seems Jesus was born on many days!

the same day different calenders

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Religion / Re: January 7th Is Christmas In Ethiopia by Ubenedictus(m): 5:47pm On Jan 07, 2023
Christ is born!

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Religion / Re: Pope Benedict XVI Buried In Vatican Tomb After Funeral Led By Pope Francis by Ubenedictus(m): 5:44pm On Jan 07, 2023
hope you know that angels and demons is fiction?
ogwumgbe:


You are on point bro, I found out about illuminati from Angels and Demons when many people in the world hadn't heard that term before. I read Angel and Demons in 2006
Crime / Re: Kenyan Gayright Activist Chiloba Killed, Body Stuffed In Metallic Box (Graphic) by Ubenedictus(m): 11:38pm On Jan 06, 2023
this kind of act should not be happening in th 21th century

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Religion / Re: Pope Benedict XVI Buried In Vatican Tomb After Funeral Led By Pope Francis by Ubenedictus(m): 10:27pm On Jan 05, 2023
4ward4:


He is buried In 3 different casket. The last of them is made up of Lead ,and just why it is been Soldered away from water and moist. In the next 2000yrs all documents and remains will be Intact. Even the remains ,writing and coins used by St Peter is still intact just like this.The church keeps history's alive to strengthen the faith...
If his Signs and wonders happens in his name during intercession ,his remains will be brought out and beautified accordingly. That is how saints are made.
it not lead, its zinc and it is the middle one that is metal. the inner and outer one is wood

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Religion / Re: Former Pope Benedict XVI Dies At His Vatican Residence, Aged 95 by Ubenedictus(m): 12:29pm On Dec 31, 2022
May his Memory be Eternal
May his Memory be a Blessing
May he find mercy in Judgement
And find the fulness of the light of God's face
Requiescat in Pace


"1.But the souls of the upright are in the hands of God, and no torment can touch them. 2.To the unenlightened, they appeared to die, their departure was regarded as disaster, 3.their leaving us like annihilation; but they are at peace. 4.If, as it seemed to us, they suffered punishment, their hope was rich with immortality; 5.slight was their correction, great will their blessings be. God was putting them to the test and has proved them worthy to be with him; he has tested them like gold in a furnace, and accepted them as a perfect burnt offering. 7.At their time of visitation, they will shine out; as sparks run through the stubble, so will they. 8.They will judge nations, rule over peoples, and the Lord will be their king for ever. 9.Those who trust in him will understand the truth, those who are faithful will live with him in love; for grace and mercy await his holy ones, and he intervenes on behalf of his chosen."
Wisdom 3
Health / Re: I Just Discovered I Have Hiv by Ubenedictus(m): 2:43am On Dec 10, 2022
if you will like to talk, just send me a mail
Foreign Affairs / Re: UN General Assembly Rebukes US Embargo On Cuba by Ubenedictus(m): 8:45am On Nov 21, 2022
KaluwisxPRO:


Blame your African leaders. They’re not ready for accountability, that is why they choose to continue from where your colonizers stopped.

If they want to be accountable to their people, they will ditch the west and heaven will not fall. Nigeria is too well positioned in the world and Africa to be ignored by the west.

But of course, your leaders are still bedfellows with their masters, so they won’t.
you still seem to be unable to hear, Cuba has one of the highest reserves in the world it was ignored for years and you think same can't happen to Nigeria.


There is no options except continuing where the colonizers stopped, it is either you continue or you are sabotage, Gadafi, Lumuba and co will tell you their stories
Foreign Affairs / Re: UN General Assembly Rebukes US Embargo On Cuba by Ubenedictus(m): 10:33pm On Nov 14, 2022
KaluwisxPRO:


I will support anything that teaches African leader’s independence.

Nigeria’s oil is still owned solely by the U.S and British since they shared it amongst themselves, what has Nigeria leaders done about it??

it is good to be a student of history and world politics because if you were you would not be saying this. What do you think is the fate of any African country that thinks of Independence from the west? I only gave you the example of the former french colonies that refused the franc, they were sabotaged by franc, it is not hidden information research.

Even the Cuban problem the genesis of it was that Cuba chose to allign with the East instead of the west and till today they are still under economic sabotage.

people seat in their homes and talk about independence, they do not know what it means and the cost for poorer countries
Foreign Affairs / Re: UN General Assembly Rebukes US Embargo On Cuba by Ubenedictus(m): 7:52am On Nov 07, 2022
KaluwisxPRO:


So why then is CUBA crying for an embargo Are they done fighting with their supposed helper??

The US is not stopping them from trading with others, just not with their currency.
campanies that trade in Cuba are prohibited from trading with the US. it is not about trading in the dollars, it is a full trade embargo.

An Cuba is complaining because such embargo amounts to economic sabatage, it is the same thing France did to African countries that refused to accept the French franc. It is truly unfortunate that an African will support economic imperialism, the very tool that the west uses in colonialising Africa in their neo-colonialist aims.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: UN General Assembly Rebukes US Embargo On Cuba by Ubenedictus(m): 7:44am On Nov 04, 2022
just the same way the west is naitonalising Russian assets. Cuba and the US were in a state of war
BabaCommander:
I don't know much about this case, but why nationalized the businesses of US citizens?

For successful US government over the years to continue the blocked, Cuba must have wronged many average Americans.

Cuba should take the first step towards settlement by paying compensation for the businesses she nationalized.

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Religion / Re: Obi, Soludo Present As Pope Francis Ordains Okpaleke As Cardinal by Ubenedictus(m): 12:11pm On Aug 28, 2022
Politics / Re: Aisha Yesufu: For Competence, Equity, Kwankwaso Should’ve Been Obi’s Deputy by Ubenedictus(m): 2:45pm On Aug 24, 2022
IvarTheBoneless:


Cry for as long as your eyes permit. Bola Tinubu is the next President.
no be only me e go rule, and the next 4 year I will only visit in 2025 and 26. so enjoy
Foreign Affairs / Re: 4 Out Of 7 Electoral Body’s Commissioners Reject Presidential Results In Kenya by Ubenedictus(m): 6:33pm On Aug 16, 2022
CommonSense1967:
I was in Kenya about 4 weeks ago for a safari at Masai Mara. I asked questions about this election from Uber drivers to anyone I can ask. I got the sense that the election was going to be close but I thought Baba (they call Odinga Baba) was going to win.
Not surprised at all why it's this close.
it depends on who you spoke to, Kenyans are divided on ethnic lines

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Religion / Re: Catholic And Jehovah's Witnesses, Which Is Better? by Ubenedictus(m): 2:43pm On Aug 16, 2022
yet you all broke away from catholicism, then you are all pagans
MaxInDHouse:


On the contrary Catholicism is a pagan Roman religion that sufficed after the brutal killings of all the Apostles who were pioneers of the real Christianity.
That's why right thinking individuals were PROTESTING against Catholics which led to the creation of numerous sects all claiming denominations in Christendom.
Catholics are pagans any reader can pick up the Bible and before you complete the book of Exodus you would have seen clearly that there is no correlation between the Catholics and the Bible God! smiley
Politics / Re: Catholic Priest Campaigns For Peter Obi (Video) by Ubenedictus(m): 3:23am On Jul 29, 2022
where was he tribalist?
realestate99:

It is a easier for a blind Togolese to be Nigeria's president than Obi, he is a hardcore tribalist like El - Rufai your people love to castigate.

Seems you people live in fools paradise, you are always on the loosing side , you were Atikulating just 3 years ago, we all know your plan, to get an igbo in the top 2 position by all means, well it is not a bad idea everyone deserves a chance but the childish and barbaric tactics won't get you anywhere..... You will soon resume " Biafra or Death" soundtrack again.
Politics / Re: Catholic Priest Campaigns For Peter Obi (Video) by Ubenedictus(m): 3:20am On Jul 29, 2022
Splitmind:
This is an abuse of office priests are supposed to be neutral
not really, he mentioned no names nor party, he is responsible for what he said not what you understood
Politics / Re: Atiku: Peter Obi Didn’t Consult Me Before Leaving PDP by Ubenedictus(m): 12:16pm On Jul 22, 2022
Totilopussylick:
I'd prefer Atiku to be the next president of Nigeria rather than that old confused druggie called Tinubu tongue.

But they'll both lose to labour party the peoples choice tongue cool
what has Atiku ever achieved?
Politics / Re: Aisha Yesufu: For Competence, Equity, Kwankwaso Should’ve Been Obi’s Deputy by Ubenedictus(m): 2:05pm On Jul 10, 2022
The same Tinubu that just went for a muslim-muslim ticket?
IvarTheBoneless:


Cry for as long as your eyes permit. Bola Tinubu is the next President.
Politics / Re: Aisha Yesufu: For Competence, Equity, Kwankwaso Should’ve Been Obi’s Deputy by Ubenedictus(m): 1:51pm On Jul 10, 2022
people like you will still shout one nigeria even with your tribaliatic mindset.

thanks be to God hardship knows no tribe. Did the north not vote a fellow northerner Buhari? Let them vote another one, it isn't new, the whole country will suffer together just as they suffered Buhari. If by now the north hasn't learnt to put other considerations ahead of tribe, then their mumu never do

IvarTheBoneless:
So you didn't know Kwankwaso was a bigot when you guys were licking his aboki yansh and begging him for an alliance ?

The guy no send una and he told you the bitter truth, the North will NEVER vote an Igbo candidate. grin

Tears will change nothing. Better face Biafuro.


Car Talk / Re: Ingrace Motors Obtains FG Approval To Assemble Cars In Nigeria by Ubenedictus(m): 10:32pm On Jul 07, 2022
I am sure you know what comparism is and how it work. the my tribe is the best tribe mentality is the very root cause of the tribalism and ethnic nepotism we have in Nigeria, it is the invitation of intertribal jealousy and the very thing that come before tribal conflict.

I will assume from your username that you are Igbo, that very sentiments are what causes misunderstanding among tribes
Nnaworo:


Oga there is nothing harmful in that guys submission.



There is this pride associated with the Igbo tribe which is not seen in other tribes- [b]It takes more to be a Igbo man than to be from other [/b]tribes.

You can't afford to live the life of mediocre being Igbo and it comes with a lot of financial pressure- it is this status symbol that makes the lazy ones carry hard drugs to Asia and make the hard working ones being legitimately successful men.

I'm not saying that other tribes are not unique in their own ways.
Politics / Re: Sheriff Oborevwori Disqualified By High Court As Delta PDP Governorshi Candidate by Ubenedictus(m): 10:00pm On Jul 07, 2022
mastermaestro:


Why him dey gamble with names up and down? grin grin Is he mad or something? I need explanation. Most politicians are thieves and kings of forgeries. grin
I think it depends on the culture, I am multi-named and if I check some of my documents the only constant names are my surname and my first name...which is an English name. My mom named me twice, my father named me once and my grandma named me once, and religion added a last one. Those are the middle names that I could use, but in the extnded family everyone who was old enough when I was born is allowed to name me and call me the name he chose.

now in my earliest document my middle name has been either of the two selected by my mother... when I was very young she used the name I was called at home and changed it again when I changed school. Fortunately for me, I regulated all that with my primary 6, wassce, bsc, nysc and master all with the same middle name. then i did a local government registration of birth, national population commission birth certificate all reading the same middle name. that way all the documents that matter have the same middle name. I have stopped presented any document that doesn't have the exact 3 official names I currently use.

I am from the south-South and my brother probable has a similar problem, he incorporated a new middle name during his wassce... If the guy is from a similar culture, it is probably understandable.
Car Talk / Re: Ingrace Motors Obtains FG Approval To Assemble Cars In Nigeria by Ubenedictus(m): 8:55pm On Jul 07, 2022
Theknowledge:
There is this pride associated with the Igbo tribe which is not seen in other tribes- It takes more to be a Igbo man than to be from other tribes.

You can't afford to live the life of mediocre being Igbo and it comes with a lot of financial pressure- it is this status symbol that makes the lazy ones carry hard drugs to Asia and make the hard working ones being legitimately successful men.

I'm not saying that other tribes are not unique in their own ways.
this is how people like you get others to dislike Igbos
Religion / Re: Bearing Good Fruit by Ubenedictus(m): 9:36pm On Jul 03, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


The two roads that one leads to life with just a lane against another that has many lanes is about individuals shey? Matt 7:13-14 cheesy

The tree producing FRUIT that could be RECOGNIZED globally is about an individual shey? Matt 7:16-18

Those saying they worked for Jesus but he denied them are individuals shey? Matthew 7:21-23

Ọmọ stoo deceiving yourself!
As I told you the entire chapter are admonitions to people

15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them.

these are the few first verses of that chapter, he

7 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

6 “Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.

they are admonitions to people! and nothing there mentions religious organisations please stop doing violence to scripture just to claim so dominance for your group

The cramped road where you can't switch lanes means the one and only organization of Jesus Christ where you must submit to what is being taught so once you leave you're on the broad road (Christendom churches claiming denominations) where every lane is OK to deceitful people!


The one and only tree that it's FRUIT could be RECOGNIZED globally means Jesus' group unlike Christendom churches where different sects are claiming Christians. The deception is that you people are thinking that nice people in false religions will gain what God promised true Christians but that's a lie no matter how nice you're false religion will disqualified you. John 3:1-8
But no matter how bad you may be, with pure worship you still have a hope! Luke 23:41-43

If you're practicing FALSE RELIGION demons will perform signs through you as if you're with Jesus but you yourself will know that you're not submissive to any form of restraint binding on you with fellow believers. So Jesus will deny you because to him you are LAWLESS! Matthew 7:21-23
Religion / Re: Catholic Diocese Of Enugu Shuts Down Father Mbaka's Adoration Ministry by Ubenedictus(m): 9:25pm On Jul 03, 2022
gaelllic:


Keep calling me half-baked.
You're going to end up fully baked in Hell if you continue in heresy.

I'll take out the rest of your trash after I've attended to other matters.
i see that when you lose and argument you go for threats instead.

I am happy that you are not God and you will not be my judge on the day of judgement. Christ is my judge. i pray you find the time to remove the boulder in you eyes maybe then you will be able to see the speck you think is in your brother's eyes.

I have countered every argument you have presented document for document and I have happily shown how the things you condemn have there roots in catholic teaching that were there even before Vatican II.

FIRST VATICAN COUNCIL

For no one can be in doubt, indeed it was known in every age that the holy and most blessed Peter, prince and head of the apostles, the pillar of faith and the foundation of the catholic church, received the keys of the kingdom from our lord Jesus Christ, the saviour and redeemer of the human race, and that to this day and for ever he lives and presides and exercises judgment in his successors the bishops of the holy Roman see, which he founded and consecrated with his blood [46] .
Therefore whoever succeeds to the chair of Peter obtains by the institution of Christ himself, the primacy of Peter over the whole church. So what the truth has ordained stands firm, and blessed Peter perseveres in the rock-like strength he was granted, and does not abandon that guidance of the church which he once received [47] .
For this reason it has always been necessary for every church–that is to say the faithful throughout the world–to be in agreement with the Roman church because of its more effective leadership. In consequence of being joined, as members to head, with that see, from which the rights of sacred communion flow to all, they will grow together into the structure of a single body [48] .
Therefore,
if anyone says that
it is not by the institution of Christ the lord himself (that is to say, by divine law) that blessed Peter should have perpetual successors in the primacy over the whole church; or that
the Roman pontiff is not the successor of blessed Peter in this primacy:
let him be anathema.




I will pray for you who have separated yourself from the Roman pontiff
Religion / Re: Catholic Diocese Of Enugu Shuts Down Father Mbaka's Adoration Ministry by Ubenedictus(m): 10:07am On Jun 25, 2022
gaelllic:


This would be laughable if it didn't represent pertinacious and gravely sinful bad will.



I have made no reference to 'universal law'.
I have made reference to dogma.

No soul may overturn dogma

You know this of course, and thus you desperately had to produce the following concoction:



The ruling on prayers with non-Catholics is not a discipline.

It is a dogma.

Stop lying.

By your standard of 'Catholicism', one could simply attend Friday mosque and offer prayers to Allah without committing mortal sin?

What a heretic.
it is clear you don't know the difference between a discipline and a dogma. which is a shame, because I would assume that someone who has the effrontery to accuse popes of heresy will know the basics of the Catholic faith



See who talks about half-baked knowledge.

(i.) That publication is not a dogma. It is a document from the Holy Office and therefore fallible.

That publication is not dogma but is immediately contradicted what you claimed was a dogma. That should tell you, if you had any knowledge of how the church works that it was a discipline which was cancelling another discipline.

in case you can't read this was before Vatican II, so you can't blame Vatican ii for this. A discipline is subject to change and the discipline on ecumenical gatherings set by pius xi was modify in thee reign of pius xii. Anyone who is intelligent in Catholic matters will know that this is a feature of disciplines, they can be modified and changed just as this one was. It was not a dogma

(ii.) The simple issuance by the Curia of a document does not confer the infallibility of the reigning Pope upon it. For that to happen the Pope in question would have to approve it in forma specifica (I hope you know what that means) and not just generally. This also applied to theological textbooks, Canon Law compilations etc
if you are talking about infallibility then even the earlier encyclicals you have been quoting to support your opinions are not infallible documents. So if you are going to claim something is dogma then you have to provide a papal ex cathedra declaration or the pronouncement of an ecumenical council

(iii.) All this notwithstanding, the very document you cite says:

“The Catholic Church, although she does not take part in congresses and other conventions called ‘ecumenical'..."

(iv.) All this notwithstanding, the very document you cite says:

"...if these meetings afford the desired opportunity to spread among non-Catholics the knowledge of Catholic doctrine..."

Obviously, it's talking about gatherings where non-Catholics may be proselytized and not joint prayer meetings.
So your attempt to defend JPII, Benedict and co. falls flat.
On the contrary, it shows that the discipline by Pius XI was modified by Pius XII proving clearly that it was a discipline and that discipline was further modified by Vatican II council.

v. The very document you cite puts the word 'union' in quote marks. As well as the word 'ecumenical' ('oecumenica'). Since the writer(s) did not intend to show quotations or dialogue or word-as-a-word identification, those quotation marks were obviously being used as scare quotes.

"Scare quotes are a pair of quotation marks put around a word or phrase to indicate that a writer believes a term is inappropriate..."
- www.thesaurus.com

I wouldn't have had to explain that if you're as smart as you think you are.



It is a defined dogma of the Roman Catholic Church that non-Catholics are not Christian.

"Therefore, the Holy Catholic Church condemns, reproves, anathematizes and declares to be outside the Body of Christ, which is the Church, whoever holds opposing or contrary views"
- Pope Eugene IV
Cantate Domino, 1441
Again you are shifting quotes around. that is not the full story.

(Rom. 2:13-16):

For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified. When Gentiles who have not the law do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness and their conflicting thoughts accuse or perhaps excuse them on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus.

Pius IX. Singulari Quidem. AD 1856.

‘This hope of salvation is placed in the Catholic Church which, in preserving the true worship, is the solid home of this faith and the temple of God. Outside of the Church, nobody can hope for life or salvation unless he is excused through ignorance beyond his control.'

Quanto Conficiamur Moerore Pope BI. Pius IX - 186

There are, of course, those who are struggling with invincible ignorance about our most holy religion. Sincerely observing the natural law and its precepts inscribed by God on all hearts and ready to obey God, they live honest lives and are able to attain eternal life by the efficacious virtue of divine light and grace. Because God knows, searches and clearly understands the minds, hearts, thoughts, and nature of all, his supreme kindness and clemency do not permit anyone at all who is not guilty of deliberate sin to suffer eternal punishments.


That is called the doctrine of Invincible ignorance and it works together with the doctrine of "outside the church there is no salvation" as stated by pope Eugene. The catholic church does not anathematize the invincibly ignorant even if he/she is a non-catholic holding contrary views to the church.


Don't you get it?
(i.) Non-Catholics are not brothers to Catholics in any religious context.
(ii.) There are no 'distinctive features' in faith within the Body of Christ.
(iii.) Prayer in common with heretics, pagans or schismatics is never allowed.
(iv.) There is no such thing as the 'pursuit of Christian unity'. All Christians are already united in the Catholic Church.

Of course you don't get it.
Because you don't have the Faith.
You're just pretending to be a Catholic.


i) Again you are wrong, unless you are God who is able to judge the heart and know for a fact who is or isnt invincibly ignorant then you can't make absolute statements. Pius XII is clear that non-catholics who are invincible ignorant receive divine light and grace. they may not share
all the sacraments or the fullness of the catholic faith, but they possess divine grace, that is how they are our brothers. by a sharing the the grace of God.

ii) Each of the ecclesia communities have its own distinctive features. even within the catholic church eastern catholicism has distinctive features from western catholicism, and even in western catholicism monasticism has distinctive features from the lay state. your comments is factually incorrect.
iii) the absoluteness of your statements always betray you. active communion in sacris is prohibited but that doesn't imply that every prayer with non-catholics is thereby prohibited.

yet the recitation in common of the Lord's Prayer or of some prayer approved by the Catholic Church, is not forbidden for opening or closing the said meetings. De Motione ‘Oecumenica

iv) According to papal documents you are wrong again, you were the one who first quoted the discipline noted by pope pius xi but it seems you didn't read his work the is such a thing as the promotion of union of christian

for the union of Christians can only be promoted by promoting the return to the one true Church of Christ of those who are separated from it, for in the past they have unhappily left it.
MORTALIUM ANIMO ENCYCLICAL OF POPE PIUS XI

Hoping that the unity (not the population) of the Church continues to increase?
Therefore you hold that Christ's Church is not fully united.
How can you even say the Athanasian Creed then?
How then do you hold to the following dogmatic pronouncement?:
the same way i hold that the church is holy even though I know that her members sin. her holiness is found in Christ and his sacraments and graces. So too the church is one even though she is divided by schisms. Her oneness is found in Christ who is able to unite men to himself and his grace, even those whose invincible ignorance prevent them from fully accepting the catholic church.
"...Furthermore, the eminence of the Church arises from its unity, as the principle of its constitution - a unity surpassing all else, and having nothing like unto it or equal to it" (S. Clemens Alexandrinus,..."
- Pope Leo XIII
Satis Cognitum, 1896

Perhaps you will argue that Pope Leo's encyclical merely "put forth a discipline", and Vatican II repealed it...

Accept the truth:

Vatican II was not a Catholic Council.
It broke with 20 centuries of infallible Catholic doctrine and went in new direction.
It was the foundation ceremony of your Antichrist religion.
i think people like you fail to understand the vatican ii council that is why you would state that it isn't a catholic council.
Vatican ii was very conscious to keep every catholic dogma intact. On the issue of praying with no-Catholics it kept the prohibition on active communio in sacris like all other popes and councils. But it also kept passive prayer in common with non-Catholics which was already allowed before vatican ii by pope pius xii and extended that part. but everything that has to do with dogma and divine law is well preserved in Vatican ii which is why i will laugh at anyone who claims that Vatican ii is not a catholic council.



"Canon law" promulgated by Antipopes?
Don't tempt me to laughter.
YOu do not have authority to judge a pope. the first see is judged by no one.

What manner of blathering is this?

"...on the core of justification..."
"...in the core Luther..."

I will repeat Francis' words here (to prevent you from lying about them):

"And today Lutherans and Catholics, Protestants, all of us agree on the doctrine of justification. On this point, which is very important, he did not err."

Francis' said Luther did not err on the doctrine of justification.
He did not restrict his approval to the role of Faith.
By falsely pretending he did you're displaying again your habit of dishonest argumentation.

But guess what?
You are caught out in your lie because even if Francis restricted his agreement to the role of faith, its still heresy:

"According to Lutheran understanding, God justifies sinners in faith alone (sola fide)."

- Joint Declaration with the Lutherans on Justification, Section 26. 1999.

"You see that by works a man is justified, and not by faith alone (Jas 2:24)"

- Pope Paul III
Council of Trent, Session 6, Chapter 10

See?
maybe you can try quoting the full paragraph at least

25.We confess together that sinners are justified by faith in the saving action of God in Christ. By the action of the Holy Spirit in baptism, they are granted the gift of salvation, which lays the basis for the whole Christian life. They place their trust in God's gracious promise by justifying faith, which includes hope in God and love for him. Such a faith is active in love and thus the Christian cannot and should not remain without works. But whatever in the justified precedes or follows the free gift of faith is neither the basis of justification nor merits it.

26.According to Lutheran understanding, God justifies sinners in faith alone (sola fide). In faith they place their trust wholly in their Creator and Redeemer and thus live in communion with him. God himself effects faith as he brings forth such trust by his creative word. Because God's act is a new creation, it affects all dimensions of the person and leads to a life in hope and love. In the doctrine of "justification by faith alone," a distinction but not a separation is made between justification itself and the renewal of one's way of life that necessarily follows from justification and without which faith does not exist. Thereby the basis is indicated from which the renewal of life proceeds, for it comes forth from the love of God imparted to the person in justification. Justification and renewal are joined in Christ, who is present in faith.

27.The Catholic understanding also sees faith as fundamental in justification. For without faith, no justification can take place. Persons are justified through baptism as hearers of the word and believers in it. The justification of sinners is forgiveness of sins and being made righteous by justifying grace, which makes us children of God. In justification the righteous receive from Christ faith, hope, and love and are thereby taken into communion with him.[14] This new personal relation to God is grounded totally on God's graciousness and remains constantly dependent on the salvific and creative working of this gracious God, who remains true to himself, so that one can rely upon him. Thus justifying grace never becomes a human possession to which one could appeal over against God. While Catholic teaching emphasizes the renewal of life by justifying grace, this renewal in faith, hope, and love is always dependent on God's unfathomable grace and contributes nothing to justification about which one could boast before God (Rom 3:27)


But as I said, his approval wasn't limited to the role of faith, so let's check out some other heresies in the 'JDLJ':

"According to Lutheran teaching, human beings are incapable of cooperating in their salvation, because as sinners they actively oppose God and his saving action."
- JDLJ, Section 21,1999.

"If anyone shall say that man's free will moved and aroused by God does not cooperate by assenting to God Who rouses and calls...let him be anathema"
- Pope Paul III
Council of Trent, Session 6, Can 4
.When Catholics say that persons "cooperate" in preparing for and accepting justification by consenting to God's justifying action, they see such personal consent as itself an effect of grace, not as an action arising from innate human abilities.

21.According to Lutheran teaching, human beings are incapable of cooperating in their salvation, because as sinners they actively oppose God and his saving action. Lutherans do not deny that a person can reject the working of grace. When they emphasize that a person can only receive (mere passive) justification, they mean thereby to exclude any possibility of contributing to one's own justification, but do not deny that believers are fully involved personally in their faith, which is effected by God's Word.


Or how about:

"They (Lutherans) intend rather to express that justification remains free from human cooperation and is not dependent on the life-renewing effects of grace in human beings."
- JDLJ, Section 23

"If anyone shall say that man can be justified before God by his own works which are done either by his own natural powers, or by the teaching of the law, without Divine grace through Christ Jesus; let him be anathema"
- Pope Paul III
Council of Trent, Session 6, Can 1
lol, you think any kind of work, whether under grace or not strictly merits justification?



When Lutherans emphasize that the righteousness of Christ is our righteousness, their intention is above all to insist that the sinner is granted righteousness before God in Christ through the declaration of forgiveness and that only in union with Christ is one's life renewed. When they stress that God's grace is forgiving love ("the favor of God"[12]), they do not thereby deny the renewal of the Christian's life. They intend rather to express that justification remains free from human cooperation and is not dependent on the life-renewing effects of grace in human beings.

24.When Catholics emphasize the renewal of the interior person through the reception of grace imparted as a gift to the believer,[13] they wish to insist that God's forgiving grace always brings with it a gift of new life, which in the Holy Spirit becomes effective in active love. They do not thereby deny that God's gift of grace in justification remains independent of human cooperation. -JDLJ


and the gratuitousness of justification is also held by the council of Trent. Nothing the precede justification, whether it is works done in grace or not, nothing that precede justification can merit the grace of justification, because justification is totally grace.

CHAPTER VIII:
HOW THE GRATUITOUS JUSTIFICATION OF THE SINNER BY FAITH IS TO BE UNDERSTOOD
But when the Apostle says that man is justified by faith and freely,[44] these words are to be understood in that sense in which the uninterrupted unanimity of the Catholic Church has held and expressed them, namely, that we are therefore said to be justified by faith, because faith is the beginning of human salvation, the foundation and root of all justification, without which it is impossible to please God and to come to the fellowship of His sons; and we are therefore said to be justified gratuitously, because none of those things that precede justification, whether faith or works, merit the grace of justification. For, if by grace, it is not now by works, otherwise, as the Apostle says, grace is no more grace.- Council of Trent.

See?

You're a liar.
You're lying.
You're simply lying.
Any honest person can see it.
And why? Why?
Why are you lying?

How does a person come to this?

May God preserve all honest men from such a fate.
here again you have shown you lack of understanding of basic text. this is why I always repeat that half knowledge is the most dangerous

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