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Kobojunkie:
All you have done here is further buttress my earlier point.... You think you can explain God and the things of God's Kingdom by examining the history of man's churches, opening up to the fact that your doctrines and traditions have nothing to do with that commanded by God Himself.

It is becoming clearer that you do not understand english very well. What do you think "apostolic times" mean? because if you did you would know that apostolic times refer to the new testament period of the bible.
but of course you lack understanding and prefer to condemn what you do not understand.

Kobojunkie:
I know exactly what your sacraments mean to you lot and they have absolutely nothing to do with that commanded by Jesus Christ of His individual followers.

Your baptisms are done without understanding of what is commanded in scripture. Even pagans engage in such rituals which seem similar to baptism as commanded by God in scripture but are of completely different intentions.

now it is clear you are ignorant. maybe you can do a historical appraisal of baptism from apostolic times, down through the centuries in the Christian church. then maybe you may have a little understanding of what catholic baptism is and would not make the mistake of comparing it with pagan rites.

TricksterBoss:
Father when wear wedding ring abi na only me see am

many priest use rings on the marriage finger after ordination. usually it simply shows that they have committed themselves to a new way of living and tells all those singles to keep off

Kobojunkie:
God no send you or anyone go dey do "sacraments" so instead your sacraments nullify the power of God's Word in your lives - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13

if you knew what the sacraments are, you would not have written the rubbish you wrote above.

So your own bible didnt tell you that God commanded baptism?

linearity:
It is still nonsense, even by their own standards:

If the baptism is invalid, therefore confirmation, Eucharist, Holly matrimony, entry seminary and priestly ordinations, etc are all invalid.

If they are serious, they should go ahead and also invalidate all those sacraments that have baptism as a prerequisite and have those people redo them including multi-years studies and services that requires a valid baptism.

that is exactly the case, if a you had a invalid baptism then you will need to take all those sacraments.

Aaronsrod:
This stupid man has sent thousands of children to hellfire. Nawa oo

biko no one is God, God works outside the sacraments

Gullah:
This is nonsense, the catholic church doesn't have the power to declare people's baptism illegal at all not to talk of over a flimsy excuse as this. The only thing that can make a baptism not to be valid is if it's not done according to Bible directions or principles.

They didn't mention illegal, they said it is invalid, because the priest had changed the catholic understanding of baptism as a work of God into a issue of man's work.

Kobojunkie:
Um... the context is the Kingdom of God is it not? Or has the pope finally revealed that all he claims is of his kingdom and has absolutely nothing do with any of that which God in fact commands?

And in that Kingdom, Jesus Christ is God's Law, the New Covenant agreement which He calls all who will believe in Him to live by. So what part of what I stated do you not in fact grasp?

Again ....How does the word "selfish" apply in this case?

A denial of fatherhood and motherhood? When Jesus Christ declared that God Himself created some Eunuchs from birth, made some Eunuchs in life and allowed some others to become Eunuchs for His sake - Matthew 19 vs 5 - 15 - was He, God clueless as to this denial of fatherhood and motherhood the pope speaks of ?

again you seem totally ignorant of the context. you see ignorance, it is a disease.

Kobojunkie:
How does the word "selfish" apply in this case?

A denial of fatherhood and motherhood? When Jesus Christ declared that God Himself created some Eunuchs from birth, made some Eunuchs in life and allowed some others to become Eunuchs for His sake - Matthew 19 vs 5 - 15 - was He, God clueless as to this denial of fatherhood and motherhood the pope speaks of ?

if you dont understand the context of a statement try and make research.

Janosky:
Apostle Paul appealed to the Roman Emperor to help, which political party did Paul belong to?
You have to tell this forum or continue DECEIVING yourself


Hypocrisy na your daily garment. You dey wear am with those people supporting you.
Your fellow 3 persons deities worshipper confirmed it.
The same manner the topic of the screenshot confirmed it- your 3 deities worshippers discriminate against themselves on the issue of inter faith marriage.
Yet, Vinnie, you bring your hypocrisy and bigotry enter Nairaland

Ubenedictus:
if she doesn't marry in the Catholic church...then there will be a bit of wahala for you.

She will need permission from her bishop to ask a priest to witness that marriage in your church and dépense her from the form of marriage and I don't know a single case off the top of my head when a Nigerian bishop has granted that.

To put it in simple terms, if you wed in your church, it won't be recognised in the Catholic church, it is almost the same as if she is committing fornication. She will not be able to receive communion or participate actively in her church. Reconsider o"

weytin happen?

Richieniit:
Bruh stories... You'll be shock the more research you make about them the more scary it get. Every catholic home have shrine they worship all in the name it represents God.. same God that has warned you ppl never to use any image to represent Him. Why on earth do you need holy Mary to intercede on your prayers and her name mentioned at every prayers you guys make

Them don brain wash una finish. That cross you guys carry about is totally ungodly.

Well who are my to judge But pls don't quote me again if you can't diff btw the truth and your truth.

this is from a protestant.


https://www.google.com/search?q=why+do+people+pray+to+mary+YouTube&oq=why+do+people+pray+to+mary+YouTube&aqs=chrome..69i57.16823j0j4&client=ms-android-xiaomi-rvo3&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:d86761bd,vid:sM64nAIqoNM,st:0

chokovirus:
Okay. That’s better. Mine agreed to leave the Catholic Church but we will do a white wedding there. But right now I don’t think that will happen again tho because if we are to wed in the Catholic Church I would have to consent to her remaining there and also making sure the kids are trained in the Catholic manner.

if she doesn't marry in the Catholic church...then there will be a bit of wahala for you.

She will need permission from her bishop to ask a priest to witness that marriage in your church and dépense her from the form of marriage and I don't know a single case off the top of my head when a Nigerian bishop has granted that.

To put it in simple terms, if you wed in your church, it won't be recognised in the Catholic church, it is almost the same as if she is committing fornication. She will not be able to receive communion or participate actively in her church. Reconsider o

Richieniit:
Bruh stories... You'll be shock the more research you make about them the more scary it get. Every catholic home have shrine they worship all in the name it represents God.. same God that has warned you ppl never to use any image to represent Him. Why on earth do you need holy Mary to intercede on your prayers and her name mentioned at every prayers you guys make

Them don brain wash una finish. That cross you guys carry about is totally ungodly.

Well who are my to judge But pls don't quote me again if you can't diff btw the truth and your truth.

when you don't research this are the kinds of things you'll come up with. These criticism have long been answered but to you it still sounds interesting.

See how we are quick to judge her as if we are holy like Jesus.

Hypocrites

Richieniit:
Bruh stories... You'll be shock the more research you make about them the more scary it get. Every catholic home have shrine they worship all in the name it represents God.. same God that has warned you ppl never to use any image to represent Him. Why on earth do you need holy Mary to intercede on your prayers and her name mentioned at every prayers you guys make

Them don brain wash una finish. That cross you guys carry about is totally ungodly.

Well who are my to judge But pls don't quote me again if you can't diff btw the truth and your truth.

you didn't answer the questions I asked. You think you know and that is the problem.

Prevailing:
My is, do you think is a mere belief or a fact. The catholic way to worship God is not in the Bible. Jesus said He is the way, truth and life, no one comes except thro Him John 14:6. The catholics say you go to God thro mary. Is that not idolatry?. They see you as an outcast if you don't belong to the Mary league.

to be able to say this, have you attended the Catholic church before, been to their mass and see what is done there, if they don't pray to Jesus but only Mary?

Richieniit:
Bruh advise this guy right nau.. that church na rubbish and I am sure you know it.

Make himself try another church just to taste his belief. Say them born you for cele church no mean say you go forever remain cele member

how many times you don go Catholic church? How well you don research their doctrines to come to this conclusion?

jmoore:
You keep referring to link, book etc. Back in secondary school there was alot of debates in our hostel between catholics and anglicans on the issue. No anglican classmate of mine supported that Mary died a virgin.

the books I am referring to is the authoritative document of the Anglican church. That is the Anglican church official text of worship.

Maybe your Anglican friends don't believe it, but the books they use in their church every day says so.

jmoore:
Alot is how many percent? I am only getting to know this from you. Which means it is not a popular belief especially in Nigeria. But all roman catholic church in all countries believe that Mary died a virgin.

in the Anglican book of common prayer Mary is always called "blessed virgin Mary".

Anglicans also accept the ecumenical council that teach virginity of Mary

jmoore:
Nigerian Anglican has broken ties with Canterbury.. There is no church of England in Nigeria.

Moving to Roman Catholic? So he's going to believe that Mary died a virgin and her husband married her to be looking at her as a tourist attraction without consummation..

There are alot of protestants who believe in the virginity of Mary...are you not aware?

https://anglicancompass.com/the-blessed-virgin-mary/

This should be the 6 Anglican bishop becoming Catholic since 2005, not to mention the many priests who have done the same.

I wonder how Nigerian Anglicans feel about the path Canterbury is following

A married Church of England bishop has resigned from his position in order to join the Roman Catholic Church.

The Anglican Bishop of Ebbsfleet, Jonathan Goodall, said he made the decision following a long period of prayer "which has been among the most testing periods of my life".

Bishop of Ebbsfleet for eight years, he will now seek full communion with the Roman Catholic Church.

The Archbishop of Canterbury said he accepted the resignation "with regret".

Bishop Goodall served as a provincial episcopal visitor, also known as a "flying bishop", ministering various parishes which decline to be overseen by a woman bishop.

He was a member of The Society, which seeks to promote and maintain catholic teaching and practice within the Church of England.

He has a wife, Sarah, and two children. Although Catholic priests are not permitted to marry, the Roman Catholic Church has in the past accepted married Anglican priests who convert.

In a statement on Friday, Bishop Goodall said: "Life in the communion of the Church of England has shaped and nourished my discipleship as a Catholic Christian for many decades."

He added: "I trust you all to believe that I have made my decision as a way of saying yes to God's present call and invitation, and not of saying no to what I have known and experienced in the Church of England, to which I owe such a deep debt."

The Archbishop, Justin Welby, said he was "deeply grateful" for the years of service, adding: "My prayers are with him and Sarah, both for his future ministry and for the direction in which they are being called in their continuing journey of dedicated service to Christ."

Several bishops converted in 2010 over the Church of England's ordination of women.

One of those to move was the serving Bishop of Ebbsfleet - the role Bishop Goodall is now vacating.

The Rt Rev Andrew Burnham went on to be ordained as a Catholic priest at the start of 2011. He is now the monsignor for the Hendred parish which covers two churches - St Mary's in East Hendred, Oxfordshire, and St Patrick's in East Ilsley, Berkshire

livingchrist:
Catholics who pray to mary or any other saints do not believe that faith alone in the name of Jesus is what saves.
Jesus is the only way not mary, not micheal not anyother



John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

You that go through another way, like mary, other saints,prophets, general overseers,good works, Angels, church or organisation you are regarded as a theif.

John 10:1
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

Jesus is the door not a door

John 10:7
Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.

John 10:9
I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

There is only name given to men whereby we shall be saved.

Acts 4:12
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Salvation is strictly by grace through faith in Jesus only.

Ephesians 2:8
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Cc. Nancy, Benedictus, maxD, ,dappa,Bishopkingsely, Dtruthspeaker, kobojunkie and everybody else

Jesus alone is the one who saves! Amen!

Who said anything different?

Karleb:
Many of us don't know the history of Christianity.

Once upon a time, a Christian was automatically a Catholic and the Pope was the leader. The church was so powerful that they burned witches, burned and killed gruesomely anyone who challenged the littlest of the Bible and Catholic teaching. Scientists and freethinkers were not spared. There was only one set of doctrine, you bring in another thing you get killed.

The Anglican is an English Catholic.

Then came Mathin Luther, he spare headed the branch off of Protestant from Catholic. Somehow somehow, he escaped death and translated the Bible to other languages and made it available for other people to read.

Before Martin Luther made the Bible available, the Bible was only available in the church and accessible only by the priest and was only in Latin. In other words, the priest only read the part they deem fit. The brain washing then was really effective. You are told what to do and think, no questioning.

You would think Martin Luther is a hero right? Far from it. He ordered the killing of a some sect of Christianity that came up with their own doctrines just like he did to the Catholic.

Boko Haram are a saint compared to the evil Christians (both Catholic and Protestant) did some years ago.

In case you don't know, anything not Catholic or Anglican is Protestant in Christianity, that includes my dear RCCG.

Happy Sunday.

Also, I laugh when modern day Christians say Catholics and Anglicans are not real Christians, it just shows the level of ignorance.

Na them Catholic and Anglicans suppose dey tell us say we no be real Christians.

just a little correction, there were already vernacular bibles before Martin Luther translated his

Infomaz:
These are historical facts. The Catholic church killed millions of Christians who refused papal supremacy and doctrines. They were called "heretics". Many including women and children where fed to lions in amphitheaters while spectators cheered on, others sawed and burnt at stake. History refers to this period as dark ages

Sadly, history will repeat itself. Those who refuse the mark of the beast will be denied the right to buy or sell, fined, locked up and killed.

All this will be done under the guise of ensuring the common good, and of protecting the environment (climate change).

Although the covid 19 vaccine is not the mark of the beast, it is being used as a dress rehearsal. Soon those without the vaccine will lose their jobs and denied their rights.

Sadly, many will support this persecution under the mistaken belief of ensuring or safeguarding the " common good'

biko stop lying. The Catholic church never used lions as a means of execution that was imperial Rome.

cocolacec:
The church did the same and bible was used to justify these atrocities.During spanish inquistion,christian converts were killed because they were believed not to be genuine christians.

The old and Present muslims(ISIS)day learnt fighting for God from European christians.These jihadis are sponsored by Europe to commit these atrocities on native population.
Both are two sides of the same coin.
It will surprise you Israel was airlifting ISIS fighters for treatment in Israel.Germany used muslims in the 2nd world war to fight jihad,they simply bribed the Imans to brainwashed followers to join the fight.
Religion is a rich/elite mans trick to play on the intelligence and mind of the masses.
Fighting for God is a scam,religion ever promoted.

Muslims were already fighting jihad before the first inquisition was ever called. Who learnt from who?

Bekermann:
Some time ago I watched on Al Jazeera the way in which the crusades spread "Christianity". It was all bloodshed. That's why we need to pray for the kingdom of the Almighty to come. Religion has done so many harms to humanity.

the crusades were not called to spread Christianity,it was called to defend Christian lands from jihadist

Beancounter94:
Let the religion fight begin

Of course, in defence of Christianity, we left most of that violent thing ages ago, in part because of something called the reformation...which led over time to changes in strategy...from 'killing people who don't believe' to 'persuading them'.

After all, by the time Christianity came to my village, missionaries did not come with guns to force people to convert. People converted willingly.

The question is, the Islamic religion too should undergo some changes. Yes, many people have become Muslims peacefully....but the violence is still there . Harsh, but true.

the reformation isn't what caused the change biko, the reformer had their own heretics who they killed and they fought their own wars.

The reduction of killing came as a result of Christian influenced humanist philosophy during the enlightenment.

Kobojunkie:
Is Google a catholic ?

Catholics also write articles and they appear on Google. Take some responsibility for your own education

Kobojunkie:
And what, pray tell us, is "Holy" about the See?

Google is your friend

motayoayinde:
SO YOU BELIEVE THE "KILL LIST" NONSENSE?

WHERE'S THE LIST?
WHICH WESTERN MEDIA SAW IT FROM THEIR LONDON AND WASHINGTON OFFICES WHEN THEIR CORRESPONDENTS HAVE BEEN HURRIED EVACUATED?

I'M SURE THE FIGHTERS ARE JUST DOING ROUTINE SEARCH.

THEY POSTED THIS PICS THEMSELVES YOU KNOW?

and you are an apologist for the Taliban, how peaceful of you.

Malawian:
Oga, I schooled in Ishan land. They don't even do yams per say. They do something called Ema. There is nothing like new yam Festival among the Ishans. 7 years in that town is enough to conclude.

I didn't just school in Ishan land I am also from Edo. It is true that Ishan people like mixing there yams with cassava but that doesn't change the fact that Ishan people have new yam festival...I don't know where you schooled, my guess is that it was a town. I on the other hand spent a long time in Ishan villages and the last time I witnessed a new yam festival it was Ewu.

And as for the thread, I am related to the Aviawmu clan and we are not Igbos...we are Afemia.