Butterflyleo: Your Taqiyya is quite impressive but lame none the less.
On the general religion section I have personally seen too many anti christian threads opened by Muslims freely to bash Christians and Jesus and there were these major key players I always saw when I was a guest on nairaland before I registered. I think one had a moniker "friend something and there was wordworld or is it worldword. Rilwayne and about 4 others.
Their job was to constantly post anti christian threads all day, everyday and taunt Christians with it and I believe this prompted Christians to begin going into their section to do same or open threads in the normal section to do same but every time this is done, a mod would hijack the thread and move it quickly to the Islam section.
The oath was not to serve as a deterrent from Christians going there but rather to reduce the number of negative words spoken against Mohammad or Allah which could re-ignite the fatwa already issued against seun. There is a big difference in what I just said and what you just concocted above.
Christians still go to the Islamic section with or without the oath and still say what they feel about Mohammad but with less frequency now thus reducing the venom which would have been released to seun a second time.
What all of this shows, is simply the huge gap of difference between the Christians tolerance and the Muslim tolerance.
Christians have received all sorts from you and those like you but we never get violent but the same cannot be said of you and your sort.
Its not rocket science to tell based on anticidents of Islam and her followers that the nairaland religion section would have been more peaceful without you Muslims but your inclusion turned everything awry as it always does all over the world even to those who accommodated you.
You also lied when you said very few Muslims provoke Christians. It is even evident from one of your own threads where your fellow Muslim without any provocation from anyone called a christian A BRAINLESS KAFFIR.
And you come here to type your taqiyya all over the place.
If you could say this even after all that I have typed....then I am really disappointed
I never said Muslims have been totally innocent.... so what's with this reply? Did you even read my post? Is kafir an English word? And you gave an English definition of kafir? You are Just like the rest who can't keep religious sentiments from logical and critical reasoning.
Butterflyleo Even though there might be some very few truth in what you said. I think you have mixed some things up. On Islam for Muslim section there are two major events that happened and somehow you are mixing the two.
The first was creation of the Islam for Muslim thread. Though I wasn't active on nairaland when it happened but I heard beer parlor rumor of se.un was issued fatwa and a threat to his life made him create a separate section for Muslims.....this was never confirmed as he never denied it nor affirm it. I believe you are a reasonable person and taking rumoured gossip as fact is beneath you
The second was the creation of oat on Muslim threads. I witnessed this and please bear it in mind that Muslims never asked se.un to place oat on our threads. There are some events that eventually lead to this. It so happened that many Christians derived joy in insulting all that the Muslims hold dear.....As a result strict rules and regulations were placed to avoid chaos....It happened that while the Christian mods were too flexible with implementing the rules by punishing offenders, the then Muslim mod was far from that. He endured that once you break the rules , he places ban on you that ranges from month to years.(quiet commendable I must say). During this era, we had some peace as many knew not to mess up in the Islam section.
However some aggrieved parties complained to se.un about the ban and to the dismay of the Muslims, their topica no longer grace the fp.when we asked for reason from such actions, he replied that it's safer he doesn't put our topics on fp so the bigots can avoid our topics......but it still wasn't enough as fp or not, they would always misbehave. He actually said the Muslim mods agreed to his decision which they denied. So Muslims further complained to se.un to return their topics back to fp as punishing those offended was the wrong way to do things. The height of it all was one idiot went to Islam thread and posted pornographic pictures there... After much consideration and. Suggestions were made t him from Muslims, se.un said that he would think of what to do.... Our topics returned to fp thereafter the oat was placed.....
I have to admit that to some extent the oat has helped kicked out some bigots away from Islam section but there are actually those who would still falsely take oat just to insult Muhammad (pbuh) or Allah or anything about islam ... @melody91 After the oat was placed many Muslims especially those who knew of what transpired wouldhardly go to the religion section just to cause trouble.
Years passed. And many more users joined nairaland who saw the oat an injustice without knowing what led to it. And at such they would insult Muslims as if the oat was placed by them. Some New Muslims on nairaland in their quest to revenge would gladly go to their threads and return the favour.
But let's be honest here and I believe athiest or non muslim and non Christians can attest to the fact that when it comes to nairaland posts, Christians are much more intolerant. Even posts that talk about zakat (a major pillar of Islam that has absolutely nothing to do with Christians) you would see them either talking about how Jesus is lord and God and how Muslims are doomed to hell...the more foolish ones will just insult the Muslims, or the prophet or even Allah. Honestly if we are to talk about hate messages against either religion, Christians top.
@melody91 You should know that Muslims are not all innocent here as there are those who stillvery few who go to their section to actually reciprocate what was done to them or Just cause trouble without provocation
@anas09 You are actually one of the major trouble makers..... however the oat helped put you in check.
Let.me categorically state that Muslims are not against Christians agitating for oat placed on their threads...if that's what you want please go to se.un and Relate your concerns.....i.am sure if you guys are united on that demand, he might listen to you.
But asking Muslims to take it upon themselves to help you realise your dream is dishonest and asking them to remove the oat as if they are the admins is a stupid thing to ask. I hope I have been able to clear some misconceptions on this issue
ibroauthen: Well I don't expect you to understand what I meant
Ya akh. .learn to take correction when corrected. It doesn't take anything from you. You misunderstood the op and thereby gava a reply based on your mistaken understanding.... someone pointed you to it and you are speaking of comprehension. May Allah accept our ibadah.
ibroauthen: Have done that already and the ones other commented as well
Your post suggest otherwise. Did the op say that your prayers Will not be accepted? Like I said, read the post again and try to comprehend it properly and adjust your reply
LRNZH: Well, nothing has performed well under Buhari even at the Federal level so it didn't matter whether it is state or LG.
Anyway, it's up to you not to believe. Feel free to contact the Arewa Youth Trust Foundation (AYTF) to confirm for yourself. It is real.
I wasn't the one that went to arewa youth to get a half cooked meal. You did.so the onus is on you to tell it all and tell it true. I understand your hatred for Buhari stops you from verifying shared info that denigrate him. You should know that such hatred is harmful.....it gets to a point it affects your personality. Do not let the actions or inactions of another define who you are. My work is done here
LRNZH: Wow. That video just exposed further corruption with the program. Did you hear the food vendors complaining that money was debited from their accounts unjustly?
Things like that lead to the Kano State example in the OP.
The truth is Buhari can't oversee everything which is why projects such as this are further broken down into state government and local government...... Notifying the LG, st gv, fg is your responsibility irrespective of whether such action yields fruit or not so that' it stands as evidence against them. There are many things wrong with this country but it would be unwise to lump it all on Buhari. He can only try his best to make things better and so far in my opinion, his best isn't good enough. Btw I still don't believe that pic is fg feeding program for a school in Kano... until the location is given, I won't take it seriously....I stay in Kano and I would love to see for myself
LRNZH: We have over tweeted @Buhari on many issues including the herdsmen attacks for the past 3 years. Have you seen any meaningful action?
Instead they will defend themselves and not address the issues. People are tired.
It is better to shame the govt into action. If you are vexed, why don't you take the matter to your principals? How many FG children feeding centers do you know in Kano?
Alhamdulillah you have unveiled your intentions.... keep shaming your government. After all when it goes wrong, it affects us all
LRNZH: I have asked for a genuine picture of the feeding program from other states and none has surfaced.
People are posting fake pictures from other countries. The onus is in you to prove the Arewa Youth Trust Foundation wrong with your own genuine pictures otherwise your kidney is better than your brain
LRNZH: What are you trying to say precisely? Who are the children and who my contemporaries?
I have other currently trending frontpage threads on Gbajabiamila and the incessant kidnapping all over Nigeria.
You people who see injustice and keep quiet will be judged accordingly.
So in your warped mind you have spoken against injustice? If you really wanted to help, what stopped you from getting the location and possibly date of this occurrence before jumping in here singing like an expired artiste.....what stopped you from tweeting this to @mbuhari @psdngr and other relevant accounts.... There's only one answer, it would not aid your course
contigiency: That's why I have always stated that we can only get things right the moment we start demanding accountability and good governance from different strata of government. We only focus on the federal government and the president in particular, whereas, most of our problems come from the people who are very close to us. Look at this fine and laudable initiative of the federal government which has been given to our aunties, brothers, sisters etc to implement, they will never show comitment to give their best. Unfortunately, by the time you go through people's comments, you will find out that about 99% of the blame for this show of shame will go to the president as if he is supposed to be everywhere, cook the food and serve those children by himself. Hardly will anybody remember the person directly doing this to those children. At least, I have seen so many places this feeding program is going on in the south East With a lot of comitment from the food vendors. The aim of the government for this program was to improve the nutritional supplements in the body of the children and not to give them poison. This is ridiculous.
I hope the op sees this. I was even wondering why the children were not in their classes with officials distributing the food.
[quote author=LRNZH post=68329976][/quote]Honestly this op has no shame if he did this to turn the masses against Buhari.... We have seen the feeding program for other states and we know that there are usually officials that distribute the food, where are the officials here... Let's assume it did happen, shouldn't the op mention the location of this school so it can be retweeted till it gets to the fg? Is he posting this so it can be improved or just to laugh at fg...?I think the answer to that it's obvious...have comfort in knowing that come 2019, Buhari will still be your president insha'Allah. Once Buhari is involved, people throughout their brain through the window and begin to use their kidney for thinking...... @LRNZH I am disappointed in you. I expected better from you
ibroauthen: Some people will go to Google to go and find the meaning of some hadiths and start explaining shit on it...
Be careful na do not mislead people...
Was there camera during the time of the prophet? How do you come to the conclusion of the digital pictures we take now? What of all those pictures on the monies in our pockets that will pray with in the mosques, will you also say God will not accept those prayers? The sariah acknowledges dog, where do you come about your own conclusions?
Some people on here don't even know how to call people into the religion, instead they drive people away from the religion with their comments... Take it easy oo Allah alam
toye440: I hv no business with Islam all I detest is d killings in d name of Islam and suddenly outspoken ones like u go mute or blind to d unholy event.
What do you want from me? How many Muslims have spoken against them and have themselves killed? If by now you think these terrorists are only a problem to non Muslims, then you sir have been sleeping..... you need to wake up
guterKerl: Talking about dogs and having been to the northern parts of Nigeria, from my experience I know Hausas who keep dogs at home and they are Muslims too. How about that?
It's obvious the hatred for Buhari has deprived many from using the thing called brain in their head. So there's no amount of explanation that would suffice.....even if a non muslim who wrote the exam testifies that they weren't told to write Arabic, they would turn against such person calling him/her unprintable names.... And before you threaten to kick Buhari out come 2019, you should know that PVC is for voting in a candidate of your choice....10 chest bearers can't even agree on a candidate and you still boast of kicking out Baba...I laugh
hush15: Oga, you like stories sha. Who has even raised the issue of whether the IG is guilty or not. Nobody is faulting him yet. Its very simple and all these your oyinbo self reveal you yourself is a rebellious child.
After all said and done, the NASS has constitutional oversight functions as allowed by law. If they need explanations as regards certain grey areas, they can requeat the presence of the IG, afterall ita not that the IG is being called to court.
I think you and your IG often misunderatood the word summon. Na that english they fear una and stirs the very deep hole in that conscience of you both. SUMMON by dictionary.com is
summon ˈsʌmən/ verb 1. order (someone) to be present. "a waiter was summoned" synonyms: send for, call for, ask for, request the presence of, demand the presence of; More 2. make an effort to produce (a particular quality or reaction) from within oneself. "she managed to summon up a smile" synonyms: muster, gather, collect, rally, call into action, mobilize, screw up "he was unable to summon the courage to move closer to where the dogs were tied"
But to you guys, is an order and after all your english, you should know better. Nobody has said he is faulty. They are only requesting his presence to explain some of the mishap thats going on and they are backed constitutionally to do so as required by law. Simple explanation, running from pillar to post. Its not bout authority but clear conscience.
And if out of guilty conscience, the man refuses to oblige the senate voilating constitutional requests, am not surprise. Besides, his boss is no different and ofcourse, his blind supporters out of beef for senate cant see any wrong here either.
I think you didn't comprehend deomelo's post. Reading and understanding the post below could have helped you.
MrHowto: The functions, duties and responsibilities of the IGP as listed in Section 215 of the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria can also be carried out as mentioned in section 312 (1) of the Police Act and Regulation by a senior officer of the Force of the Rank of Deputy Inspector General of Police and Assistant Inspector General of Police who if permitted by the Inspector General of Police to act on his behalf or represent him in official capacity at any function, event or programme within and outside Nigeria and can do so in consonant with the provisions of the Police Act and Regulation.
He said it is on the basis of the above that while the Inspector General of Police is on an official assignment in Bauchi State that he delegated the Deputy Inspector General of Police, Department of Operations to represent him and honour the invitation of the Senate, Federal Republic of Nigeria in respect of the felonious offenses for which Sen. Dino Melaye was taken into Police custody, investigated and to be arraigned in the Federal High Court, Lokoja without further delay.
He added that, "Consequently, the general public are hereby implored to note that the Inspector General of Police acted rightly in accordance with the provisions of the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria and the Police Act and Regulation and other extant laws by delegating the Deputy Inspector General of Police, Department of Operations to represent him at the Senate, National Assembly on 26th April, 2018 to present the Police report, actions and findings in a case of Criminal Conspiracy and Unlawful Possession of Prohibited Firearms and other sundry offenses indicting Senator Dino Melaye.