uchman:


I moved from Vietnam to China with a student visa, the process was not rigorous.

In Nigeria I believe it might be.

uchman:
IELTS is hot cake in Vietnam.
There are special classes for IELTS students and IELTS teachers earns higher and highly sought for.

How does one become an IELTS teacher?

Pennyseo2:


You will be shocked that with your almighty IT skills one hardly gets invite for interviews hence they didn't see any UK references or having not worked in the UK before or got UK experience.

I have been applying for data science for the past 3 months after getting certified on udemy.. Yet no invite

If you are in the UK, pls go and volunteer to work as a data analyst for a charity organisation or any organisation at all. UK is big on work experience

heykims:
I hope guys aspiring to come UK are aware of the new immigration rules that will take off in April.
It makes it very difficult to remain in UK even after your 2yrs post graduate visa as one will need a very high paying job to remain the UK which in reality is not achievable except for a lucky few.
The popular route to remain was the care sponsorship but its regulation is now very stringent and now with a care visa, u can't bring in dependants again once the policy is implemented in April, so the route is a no way for a family oriented individual.
So anyone that gets a care sponsorship after April won't have dependents. It's quite bad that for a student presently in the UK with his dependants, if he gets care visa sponsorship after April, the dependants won't be covered and would need to return back to Nigeria.
Please let's reason am well before we japa o.

Please does anyone here knows if UK grants study visa to people coming to study 1 year foundation courses?

Emarvel:

Well, it depends on what is most more important to you., whether the study or the traveling abroad.
If you have 5k pounds to spare and you want Asia then try china or other top Asia countries.

I don't know about China and how easy it is to get their visa. In addition, their tuition fee is high

Emarvel:

Before you sponsor to come here via study, just ask yourself one question, why Vietnam?

That is what 5k pounds can afford with sure visa atleast. My brother can move to other western countries easily from there in 2 yrs time.

u3fine:

Vietnam WAS good but not at the moment. The influx of people due to the relaxation of their tourist visa requirements has made the country an ALL comer affairs. So the TEACHING jobs for foreigners is scarce. As a student, it's even more difficult to survive if hoping to get job and sustain himself.
My advice is to use the money and look for other EU countries that are less expensive, if possible increase the amount

.

Which other Eu countries kwanu? with easy visa process?
All these are tiring. Any country one wishes to relocate has something negative people will say about it.

EbonyCy:
The desperation of getting jobs has made some person's accept as low as $8 as salaries per hour. And sometimes when those in Vietnam try to discourage others from coming,they feel is coming from a place of hatred...No...it isn't, Moroccans, Algerians, Egyptians are bin paid higher cos of the skin color factor. You would reject a job cos of the low salary but a fellow black skinned will accept it wholeheartedly cos he needs to survive and obviously there are no jobs. Companies are gradually reducing their pay,if u complain they'll ask you to quit if u aren't okay with it cos there are people readily available to do it.

A lot of discouraging words on this thread. Someone told me about this Vietnam and how studying there is affordable and visa is easy to get. Only to come on nairaland to see people advising against it. I want to sponsor my immediate elder bro with 5k pounds to relocate to Vietnam via studies, but the comments here are all crying abort mission.

Thegamingorca:



Ofcourse it was denied. You don't seem to grasp the way these VO reason with regards potential layovers and asylum seekers.

The reason she was denied as you say was because in actual fact she did not provide evidence(financially or in form of CAC documentation) of this fictitious business she runs as an employer. The onus was on you to do due diligence and garnish whatever meal you were preparing for the fat cats with enough seasoned pepper to mask the taste of the meal but you didn't.

This now brings me to your initial question. Here is a reverse-ask to that question.

"Assuming you put yourself in the visa officer's shoes!"

Will you ever attempt to grant anyone visa who was rejected despite beating their chest as self employed, lol who has now suddenly applied under category of an unemployed person?


Questions will be asked, eyebrows will be raised. Who will sponsor her feeding? Who will pay for the flight? When is she going back? Is she still trying to lie to her teeth? What are her ties to go back to Nigeria? Is it public funds she now wants to live on? Does she have a previous refusal?


"They say dey don't judge applications with previous ones. That's a very big lie oh, they actually check for any deviation to use to disqualify asylum seekers particularly those that hired agents that don't keep stories straight."


And wham! another hot refusal will land even faster than before.


So my dear, perish that idea you are cooking up just now. All this your brother's taking care of or managing her business for her no concine the VO. Prepare a very beautiful CAC certificate of this business which should be existing somewhere. With regular deposit of money from that business into her account as salary every month. Use a reasonable salary cos things get as it be for Naija now.

If you don't explain things to the VO down to the very minute detail and address why she was refused previously even going as far as referencing it in her next application! Then I am very sorry but that is a recipe for another hot refusal served perishingly cold.

This is someone else testimony below

Visa Granted.
Application on 4th February
Appointment on 11th February
Transferred to DMC 14th February
Collection mail 8th March
Picked up 9th March.
No decision mail.
Standard Application at Ikeja

Visa is for my mother-in-law
I'm on a Tier 4 student Visa.
She is coming to visit her granddaughter (newborn).

Documents submitted....
Both passport (wife and I)
Both BRPs
Student enrollment letter.
Marriage certificate
Wife's Birth certificate
Mat B1 form from midwife
Birth registration appointment letter.
My bank statement (over 5k pounds)
Tenancy agreement.
Utility bill of my accommodation.
Introduction letter
Invitation letter.
Letter from her pastor permitting her to travel as she is a worker in church.
She is self employed... But I didn't include her bank details as I am the full sponsor. I only wrote her annual income and earnings (which was even less than 1 million).
Things I mentioned
She is coming to meet her first grandchild...
My wife and I are overwhelmed with the new responsibility and are struggling as it's our first experience...

These rules are not cast in stones. At least you can see that this person didn't provide any supporting document except a letter from her mom's pastor.

Thegamingorca:



Ofcourse it was denied. You don't seem to grasp the way these VO reason with regards potential layovers and asylum seekers.

The reason she was denied as you say was because in actual fact she did not provide evidence(financially or in form of CAC documentation) of this fictitious business she runs as an employer. The onus was on you to do due diligence and garnish whatever meal you were preparing for the fat cats with enough seasoned pepper to mask the taste of the meal but you didn't.

This now brings me to your initial question. Here is a reverse-ask to that question.

"Assuming you put yourself in the visa officer's shoes!"

Will you ever attempt to grant anyone visa who was rejected despite beating their chest as self employed, lol who has now suddenly applied under category of an unemployed person?


Questions will be asked, eyebrows will be raised. Who will sponsor her feeding? Who will pay for the flight? When is she going back? Is she still trying to lie to her teeth? What are her ties to go back to Nigeria? Is it public funds she now wants to live on? Does she have a previous refusal?


"They say dey don't judge applications with previous ones. That's a very big lie oh, they actually check for any deviation to use to disqualify asylum seekers particularly those that hired agents that don't keep stories straight."


And wham! another hot refusal will land even faster than before.


So my dear, perish that idea you are cooking up just now. All this your brother's taking care of or managing her business for her no concine the VO. Prepare a very beautiful CAC certificate of this business which should be existing somewhere. With regular deposit of money from that business into her account as salary every month. Use a reasonable salary cos things get as it be for Naija now.

If you don't explain things to the VO down to the very minute detail and address why she was refused previously even going as far as referencing it in her next application! Then I am very sorry but that is a recipe for another hot refusal served perishingly cold.

A CAC document? Fine? What about tax return certificate? Or does having CAC enough proof that a business is in existence? Wouldn't the VO want to see how much she generates yearly and how much tax she pays on the small scale business? I don't have strength for all these documents. If there is any suggested document I could provide to back the fact that she has relinquish the business to her son or no longer in charge then I would appreciate it?
People's circumstances change. Someone who was self employed can become unemployed in 6 months time. Anything can happen. Moreover, her trip was to be sponsored by me down to every penny but like the VO said, they judge application individually.
One of the reason I initially filled in for self employed is because I thought that was the right thing to do owing to the fact the petty business actually belongs to her but she hardly goes to the shop for health reasons. These are not things I will have to start explaining to the VO. So?

A friend's mom in law was granted recently and he chose unemployed status when filling the form and the visa was granted. He didn't upload any supporting document to back up her personal circumstances. So? Are these rules cast in stone or are there exceptions?

Maybe, I will have to consult an immigration lawyer for a better advice.

I have a question to ask. Is it advisable for one to change their employment status from self employed to unemployed after 8 months of being refused a UK visit visa? The reason is because my mom whom I fill her employment status as self employed does not have any documents to back it up. The petty business is actually been managed by my brothers. She is dependent on us her children to take care of her. I actually did an invitation for her stating I would bear the cost of her travels but the visit visa was still denied on reasons that she didn't provide supporting documents to collaborate her financial statements.

dommakavelli:
How Can I address this issue in rejection letter. You state that you are self-employed and generate annual income of 11,000,000.00 NGN. I see you provided a letter to support this. But, the documents do not show your business is active and profitable or generates a regular income, nor prove how you derive your stated income from the business. it is unclear whether you are employed as declared or how you generate your stated income. This damages the credibility of your application and raises concerns about your intentions to travel to the UK at this time.

I intend go add my CAC document to prove business is active but how do I prove the business is profitable or generates a regular income

Add tax return certificate to it, invoices and receipts from your suppliers, proof of your business assets

eyesaswide:
Hello,

I am about to file in a visit visa application for my mother. She would stay with us for 5 months, my husband and I would sponsor everything. Question is.. hope the duration of 5 months is not too much? She is a petty trader, should I file her as unemployed, since it’s just small fruit selling that she does. Anyone with similar experience?

Everyone is luck is not the same. I have a friend whose mother In laws visit visa was granted 4 days ago. He filled out that the mom in law is unemployed, she is 64yrs old. He didn't upload any documents for her. He only provided sponsorship documents from his own end
If you must fill that your mom is employed or self employed, you need to back it up with enough proofs.(Documents). Reduce the visit duration to two weeks as advice by Giselle.

tyllapia:

Thanks very much
These are the documents submitted
My payslip and that of wife
Children birth certificate
Alot of pictures for home ties
Land documents for home ties also
Market women association letter
Mummys statement of acct with 1million intact
A very detailed Cover letters.

However I want to reapply but this time I will say she is unemployed. Hope I have a chance

Don't change her employment status. It would raise red flag. They might revisit the previous application. You need more supporting documents to back her business. If your Dad is still alive, he should write a letter of consent and as well upload her marriage certificate. Her business should be registered too. Try and see if you can as well generate income tax receipts too for the business.

tyllapia:

My mom visiting visa was rejected this morning upon all the documents provided. I don't even know what to do.

So sorry dear. I had similar experience. My mom's was refused as well. I filled that she is self employed but I didn't back it up with supporting document. What I noticed is this; people who select the option of unemployed for their mom tend to get their visas approved. Selecting employed with documents to back it up works too. But you see that self-employed, omo... I think fails should you not back it up with lots of supporting documents.

May I know the list of documents you submitted for your mom?

How long did you say she would be staying in UK?

giselle237:
hello
They will not ignore her personal circumstances and use your circumstances to judge if they will give visa. It’s the applicant’s circumstances in their home country that counts.
U need to show her ties to Nigeria which u did not.
U banked on the fact that you have money in your account and so they shud give her visa. It doesn’t work that way. Sorry. They need to be sure she has things doing in Nigeria or ppl in Nigeria that will cause her to return. U need to work on that.
Then loading her account with 1.5million is not goin to work in solitary. Explain her own situation to them.

Thanks Giselle for your feedback back. It is true that I didn't provide any supporting documents to show ties in Nigeria and the reason was because my mom is a widow. She has a petty business that is not currently registered, a landed property that hasn't been valued. The only supporting document I provided was a recommendation letter from her church. Recently she got a job she would resume by November, but has been given a Job offer letter yet. So I didn't know what to do as I need her around ASAP to help me hold my baby whilst I concentrate and complete my Msc dissertation. I guess the ECO that handled my application followed rules to letter.

Should registering her business now and valuing her property before making a new visa application in six months time raise any doubts?

Atinukemi23:
l

We challenged the ECO decision last month for reconsideration, like I said previously it is not all the ECO that knows what he or she is doing, some roasted me for that statement, I have seen so many refusals that made absolute no sense, they are humans, they have hormones too we have the bad eggs among them who just refuse you based on flimsy excuse(s).
I didn’t take the second refusal likely, as there was no difference between the previous refusal which was last year, and the this recent one and it is based on financial grounds( enough sufficient funds with proof). (Looked more like a copy and paste to me ) Pre action protocol (PAP) was sent to the home office giving them 14days to reconsider before taking it further to court for JR.
They responded on the 14th day and yes a senior caseworker in his/ her right senses looked at the evidence submitted and he/she did agreed it was sufficient enough to grant the entry clearance visiting visa in the first place.
If we had accepted fate and re - apply the third time it MAY be refused again and that is too much dent, although they claim every new application(s) is decided based on its merit but I do not want to believe they do not look at your past history with them in concluding.
So fingers crossed on when my aunt and her children will be asked to bring their passports, it shouldn’t take up to 3months sha.
Sometimes you just have to push some buttons.
Don’t let the refusal bring you down, but first, do the right thing.
And good luck to everyone.

Hello.
How do I challenge my mother's own. On the refusal letter they said I can't appeal or request for administrative review.
This was the reason for refusal

Blessedsteph:
So sorry for the refusal.
From my understanding, it’s not about her financial status. It’s about her having strong ties in Nigeria. That way they are sure she will come back.
Does she have any land in her name or any asset? Is she still with her husband? If yes he can write her a letter saying he approve of her going to UK for sis so period. Does she have other children in Nigeria? Part of a church that can write to say she’s their member and very active etc. These could go as having strong ties.
Also, how long did you write that she will stay?
Like someone said, you can’t just put an account statement and expect them to accept it.
They need clarification. If she has no monthly income, where did the 1.5m come from etc.

I’m sure others will advise you better on what to do.

She has a landed property. I wrote she would stay for 2 months. She has other children but they are grown up men. She submitted a recommendation letter from the Church Vicar

puffmama:
I agree with you , we can't even stay expressly that this is what she could have done better .

quote author=Opeyemi007 post=125070728]I'm not sure they her bank statement. Even if they were going to refuse the application, they should have atleast said something about it.

Exactly. I didn't see any mention of it, that I had to start asking myself if I really did submit that her bank statement.
Even if I didn't submit her account statement they rule on their website said that my mom's financial status can be assessed using mine

4.3. In assessing whether an applicant has sufficient funds under V 4.2.(e), the applicant’s travel, maintenance and accommodation may be provided by a third party only if that third party:
(a) has a genuine professional or personal relationship with the applicant; and
(b) is not, or will not be, in breach of immigration laws at the time of the decision or the applicant’s entry to the UK as a Visitor; and
(c) can and will provide support to the applicant for the intended duration of the applicant’s stay as a Visitor.

Oggg:

I think you can reapply with her own information. If she is working, is a pensioner etc explain her own financial histories and how she makes her own money and how her bank statement came about. You can not just show them bank account without any supporting information as to how she is faring in Nigeria. How did the 1.5 million come about?
If you did and it was ignored then kuku go for reconsideration/complaint. Sorry to her grandchild

My mom is a petty trader that deals on sales of clothing apparel. What supporting documents are they looking for? I stated in my invitation letter that I and my spouse will cover all her expenses. I saw a testimony here of someone who didn't submit any documents for her mom and yet visa was granted.
I don't even know why this particular ECO assessed my mom's application.

I am shattered 😭.
My mom's visit visa application was refused today. I got the refusal mail this night. I submitted my payslip and husband's payslip, our account statements showing close to 11k pounds, my mom's account statement showing 1.5m, infact enough documentation from my end. Her reason for visit is to come see her first grand child as I put to bed 2 months ago.

Xanderlex:
Did a fresh passport for my son and renewal for my wife on 24th March. The passports haven't been delivered till date. How about yours?

Have the passports been delivered?

Happinext:
Visitor Visa alert

Biometric 15 June
Collection notification: 27 June

It is for my mum - first time application, fully funded. The only document from her was her passport. No statement from her. I am a student (Sept last year)

Documents submitted

1. Employment letter
2. 4 months pay slip
3. BRP (mine and spouse)
4. Passports (appplicant's, mine and spouse's)
5. Statements (mine and spouse only)
6. Spouse's HMRC return (He is self-employed)
7. Tickets to and fro (a step of faith)
8. Tenancy agreement
9. Letter of Invitation
10. A letter from my school to confirm my status and intention to invite my mum

Application was done by my hubby. It was after he submitted it I came across this thread. Info here created more fear in my heart. But we kept our fingers crossed.

What did you state as reason for inviting your mom? I am also planning on inviting my mom

giselle237:
it depends on her personal circumstances in Nigeria and how to convince them that she would be returning. Stick to a shorter duration say 1 month. If she is successful you can then do your 3 months. 4 to 5k pounds is not bad and there has to be a clear source of income and proof to show that even if u sponsor this trip you are still able to to sustain the family financially. Delve into her personal circumstances and see what ties you can prove that she has to Nigeria

She is a petty trader and she doesn't own any property in her name. What else can she use to show home ties? Secondly, do I need to state in my invitation letter that I put to bed and as such she's coming to see her first grandchild?

Hi everyone, I am currently in the UK on a student visa with my husband. However, I recently put to bed and regarding that i wish to sponsor my mom on a 3 months visit to the Uk. I and my hubby will cover her expenses to the UK. I want to know the list of documents they expect my mom to present. Secondly, how much pounds is the minimum amount of POF are we expected to show in our Uk accounts?

ladyrachy:

No need for tears ma, when I did my own fertility test doc even said am not ovulating even when scan showed a matured follicle all becos my hormone were out of place. I went out of the hospital with my faith and said am ovulating. I tried both English and herbal medicine for my tubes. A nurse we were introduced too specializes in such,he treats with modern and herbal drugs. BT he's based in lokoja,kogi state. When I consulted with him he said its easy for me to take in I shud treat infection first and hubby sperm needs to be worked on and that was it. Today am pregnant to the glory of God

What God cannot do does not exist. A year ago, i came on this platform to share my troubles with y'all. God has answered me and has made me a mother to a beautiful baby girl. I conceived without having to undergo any surgery or medical treatment and I have recently put to bed.

Please long how do I have to be on cabergoline for my prolactin level of 78.2 to come down to normal..
I started taking cabergoline 2 weeks ago but noticed my breast leaking milk immediately my period ended.
Does this mean that the cabergoline is not working?

chinazondum:
[b][/b]


AWESOME GOD!
FAITHFUL GOD!
GOD OF WONDERS!
KING OF KINGS!
MY MIRACLE WORKER!
AGU NA ECHEMBA 1!
Please you guys should thank God and rejoie with me. I came on this forum for advise on how to boost egg quality cos i had been ttc {since last dec } after i lost my 2 day old son last year. Infact the day b4 yesterday was his heavenly birthday and today marks a year since he left to be with God. Iam happy to say that GOD has wiped my tears completely. I am approaching the end of my 1st trimester. At the time i made my first post here i was pregnant, i had purchased 2 of the drugs recommended here for boosting egg quality already but didnt take them cos i had a bad bout of diarhhea and my sense of smell became heightened that i had to go take a test. My doctor gave me a progesterone injection at 5 weeks and requested i do a trans vaginal scan days back, Baby is doing fine. I didnt take the supplements but i did take folic acid, vit c for over 6 months and i frequently consumed ewedu for about 2 months and my doctor placed me on clomid for 2 cycles. I stopped cos it was making me too dry down there. DH and i resorted to billings method, monitoring my pap and egg white and we PRAYED!!!
My husband is a devout Marian and believes in the intercessions and prayers of our Mother Of Perpetual Help. I prayed the NOVENA in the month of may for the first time since my loss and my Mother answered. I also join the NSPPD morning prayers whenever i can.

I pray that the God that answers prayers, wipes away tears, distributes miracles meet each and every woman ttc on this forum at the point of their needs. I declare your womb open to receive your miracle babies. Please pray for me too. God bless you all through and through.

Congratulations Mama.
May God bless your bundle of joy.

iamfertile:



I'll advise you go for hyteroscopy or laparoscopy because I also had the same experience last year when the radiologist couldn't push thru during Hsg because of adhesion & he advice I see my gynecologist for hyteroscopy which I did & both hyteroscopy & laparoscopy was performed 2remove the adhesion. After 6months post surgery I went for Hsg & my tubes were outlined & no Regrow of adhesion. I dreaded surgery to remove d adhesion because of Regrow. I took a short cut of doing ijaw massage plu other tings which later caused me more damages. At the end of d day I still went for d surgery . So pls don't be discouraged. Ttc is a monster & you must not give up until you carry your bundles of joy. Cheer up dear

Please how much did it cost you to do the laparoscopy and hysterescopy?

iamfertile:


I did it in ilorin Kwara State. Gracevid hospital

Thanks

dora7891:


Hello ma, kindly do not undergo any surgery until after a consultant sees you and deems it fit

Okay.
It was actually a gynaecologist that suggested the laparoscopy and hysterescopy procedure after seeing the result of the HSG as intepreted by the radiologist.

iamfertile:



I'll advise you go for hyteroscopy or laparoscopy because I also had the same experience last year when the radiologist couldn't push thru during Hsg because of adhesion & he advice I see my gynecologist for hyteroscopy which I did & both hyteroscopy & laparoscopy was performed 2remove the adhesion. After 6months post surgery I went for Hsg & my tubes were outlined & no Regrow of adhesion. I dreaded surgery to remove d adhesion because of Regrow. I took a short cut of doing ijaw massage plu other tings which later caused me more damages. At the end of d day I still went for d surgery . So pls don't be discouraged. Ttc is a monster & you must not give up until you carry your bundles of joy. Cheer up dear

Thanks Mama.
Please which hospital did you visit for the laparoscopy and hysteroscopy?