₦airaland Forum

kayjay69:
And you are somewhat of an authority on this topic how?

You see this is the main problem with us Nigerians, here you are dragging to drag me into the mud which you have decided to make your dwelling.

You use the word "most" yet you have no statistic whatsoever to backup your horrid claim. You just throw around your stupidity disguised as a hasty generalisation.

I already cautioned the first guy but then again you willing choose to abandon the lesson I was trying so desperately to pass across to him, you abandon the meat of the matter and focus on something else, something clearly leads to nowhere. I do hate to say this but you and your ilk are what is wrong with Nigeria and if you so choose to be offended by my comments, then my work here is done.

two questions I will ask you...

one how old are you?

I'm asking you this to know whether you were old enough between say 2003 and 2008 plus to remember how the news of corporate fraud was leaking out...
90% of those nabbed were Yoruba
that is an observation that we all know for those who were attentive then
from the guy who was doing creative accounting
to the other guy who declared non existent inventory
and the list goes on

It's an observation that makes many believe that indeed MAYBE there is something about Yoruba people that pushes them into these clique thing and fraud, which in reality is NOT SO.
it is based on that observation that the guy you quoted made his statement.
his observation is 100 % true..

It's like when one is caught in South east Asia with dtugs, most of them caught are igbo, that is an observation

Or when a terrorist attack strikes, most of them are Muslim fundamentalists.

I don't know why you are pained about that, it is a fact we all know

even Elemosho478 knows this
So refusing to believe that is self deceit in your part.
Dey dia dey talk mud and stupidity

the truth cannot be changed, and the truth is that MOST people implicated in corporate fraud and abuse in Nigeria are YORUBAS

Elemosho478:
The truth is there are Yorubas CEO and MD heading companies more than any tribe in Nigeria, that's why it seem so

we are saying the same thing

Some decided to go into business, others decided to lead companies owned by others

Some decided ti seek for illicit means to finance their business, others decieded to use "jibiti" to fleece the companies they run...


Naija my country

Awoleesu:
Did I just spot Abdulaziz Yari on that group picture?
What the hell is he doing in a national security meeting? Is he still a state governor?

Signs of a failed country

kayjay69:
Sure you are not igbo but you are a mad "insert here whatever you are" man. Four director names were mentioned, one happens to be Yoruba, your fish brain interprets and shoots out whatever junk you managed type below. When does one equal four? And what does it even matter where they are from, is the main story about their tribe or about the actions they were found to be complicit in?
Well, I guess it does'nt matter to binary thinkers such as you. What you live for is to spew bile, it is unfortunate Nairaland does not screen off people like you.

I'll say it as it is

MOST of the corporate fraud in this country has been linked to Yoruba names
MOST

does that mean Yoruba folks are natural killets of companies?
of course not!

But most of those who were caught just happen to be Yoruba and it was their choices that made them commit fraud....
Not because of something aboyt Yoruba that makes companies they lead fail...
it's all abt personal choices

But then

Thinking that Yoruba folks are corporate killwrs is as stupid as people thinking that igbo are natural criminals
this is a fact that many Nigerians have not developed enough brain power to decipher.

MOST of those caught selling drugs in SEA are Igbo names BUT they chose that path.
it's not abt their ethnicity

When we as Nigerians get to the level of mental maturity that it is people's choices that determine whom they are are not ethnicity or religion or whatever, the better for us.

The guy you quoted observed right, but he is WRONG

superstar1:
People have been leaving the country since the 70s. No be today.

People left for UK in the 70s.

They left for the same UK in the 80s

Then they left for Jamaica and other Caribbeans enroute UK in the 90s

They they left for US during 1993 debacle with Visa Lottery.

They left for US again during the mid 2000s die to job loss during Bank consolidation.

We remember " I am checking out" advert.

We remember "Eyin oyinbo e wa fun mi ni Visa" song. So no be today

It is just the turn of Canada now. Despite all the noise, the entire Nigerians in Canada are not up to 400k and it is only a particular group that is going -- middle class and that has always been the case.

Middle class group is the most mobile worldwide

interesting

but this time

the bleeding is very massive

so so many people

codeplace:
Fix the country, people are leaving the country

leaving in serious droves o

XhosaNostra:
Clearly not lol.

The thing I find more disturbing are the women who fall in love with killers. This is someone who murdered women & didn't stop there- he had sex with their rotting bodies & kept some of their heads!!!!! But I guess the fact that they're either going to die or will never set foot outside again, makes things more...romantic

Bundy has so many worshippers, both men & women, as a result, authorities never disclosed the place where they scattered his ashes in fear that it'll be turned into some type of a shrine for his fans! Mind you, people are so obsessed with killers to the point where they even steal their gravestones after they die. They did that to Ed Gein, stole his entire tombstone after many years of chipping pieces off of it as souvenirs. Now his grave is unmarked, but I bet people still hold a vigil every now & then.

wow

it's a strange world

Elemosho478:
Not because of flood but because you won't sit your ass in your region

look at another one

Mk93:
sue your governor for collecting kickbacks and awarding project to incompetent companies.
you can only get what you paid for

well that is another thing too

the bribes

rusher14:
The Chinese contractors and government are to blame.

A proper HSEQ policy in place would have made road markings, signs and barricades a necessity for all hazards.

The government in turn should have supervisors whose task is to ensure the highest standards are deployed whilst construction goes on.

It's not enough for you to always seek estacodes for training courses abroad, then not apply them back home.

Collect bribe, drink stout, chop nkwobi with your latest catch whilst forgetting your job description.

Naija, we have a problem.

a very big problem

DJInfluence:
Look at the things we called trucks in this country. 95% of owners can buy the latest cars fully paid for, but their trucks are deathtraps.

it's wickedness

erinalex:
hypocrite !

If Lagos has been destroyed according to u, why then are pple from S/S and S/E always troops in to Lagos on a daily basis ?

Only fools, will come to a place he/she had earlier named a "destroyed city" .

Ask ur siblings to leave a "destroyed" Lagos and go back home.

You can Never try it.

The best ur can offer here are "name calling' and abuses.

Yorubas LIKE YOUR TYPE are very stupid

You give the ones who are sensible a bad name

so it's only people from the SE that moves to the commercial hub of Nigeria abi? which btw happens to be surrounded by Yoruba states

So the ones moving from failed states like Osun, Ekiti and Ondo states are "yeebos" too abi?

or the ones moving from the middle belt and the far north?


Common sense is not common, and you, nigger, don t have any...
@
Dumbass
all your lot know is to talk rubbish

liberalchick:
Sorry Nigerian guys brought this on themselves, what we are witnessing is a symptom of the excessive materialism in our culture. In the 90s and early 00s, girls were happy to receive mix tapes, handmade cards or a wooden frame with an insert of your portrait as gifts. Then internet came, ‘yahoo yahoo’ came and the game changed.

Nigerians always have some need to show off their wealth or believe the success of a man can only be measured by his wealth. Nigerians will rather worship money THAN intellect. Nigerian society only respect people with money. Who better to show off this new wealth to than girls? As time went on Nigerian men started throwing money at girls to prove they were the best suitor for her affections. The more need to show off the higher the financial expectations became.

Black Americans girls chase Nigerian dudes even though they say they’re sexist because, Nigerian guys have a reputation of out SPENDING men of other race/culture.

For example, ‘The act of proposing’, before girls were ok getting engaged without a ring. Then, boys started buying rings and the rings became more expensive. Now one dude upped the ante and started the whole ‘public proposal with a car’ now it’s almost a norm in our culture to propose with an elaborate gift and show off on Instagram.

Sorry the chickens have come home to roost.

You have said it all

lexxwiz:
And the trend continues.. Back in the days, We dey shame to even talk say you had sex talk more of premarital child..


Now go to tinder and instachat and see the level of low our women have hit.

Just type Hi, you go see "short time or day break.?:"

Moral values don finish..

Congratulations anyways... at least, you no deny the innocent child..


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what does this have to do with women tho

the men who get these girls pregnant nko?

DrTee1:
As the social media is the fifth realm, right?

These effects are only very important when there is am EDUCATED citizenry with BASIC life needs assured.

That however isn't the case in Nigeria. The media is insecure. 90% of Nigerians are below poverty line. Media is all but 'bought' by the highest bidder(s) in Nigeria - in spite of the FOI Bill.

Daring media houses like NEXT have been run into extinction. Where is TELL & TheNews?

The Nigerian (largely youth) citizenry enjoys very mediocre things like sex discussions, objectification of the female gender, criminal activities like Internet fraud in the name of 'hustling' and all manners of trite activities.

Nigeria currently lacks the necessary CRITICAL MASS of young people with vision, education and direction who require experience to drive national goals.

Where such exist, they are either hamstrung, harried, ignored or driven into the periphery or abroad by the current unfavourable realities of the day.

So when we talk about Realms of the Estate, the value of that phrase is currently lost on Nigerians - especially with our almost non-existent Educational values.

PS: 90% of those who come by this may not read it to its end. No, Nigerians 'hate' EPISTLES.

So how do we improve when we don't read to engage ourselves and enlarge our horizons?

You have said it all

krushdripper:
Nigerians that think like you are the reasons why Nigeria is still backward,
That is an idea from a looser mentality, ew.

What about Duncan mighty, timaya? Small doctor? (go and learn about his story before you spew trash), patoranking? Oga Park your head well, you and your kind, make this country Start step up abeg

Defeatist mentality indeed

That is what is prevalent in NIGERIA today.

But still.
The society is to blame

it has made so many people disappoints and defeated

But then
The ones who succeed are the ones who rise above all these challenges and make Some thing of themselves

360degreess:
Frustration will finish Atiku and his gullible supporters especially those online pigs..
Sai Buhari,that's all I can say.

you call your fellow country men pigs


you are not ashamed of yourself

foolbuster:
Nothing pains women like a man's rejection of their sexual advances. The thing dey pepper them die.

women were not designed to handle that...

that is why they go beaerk when it happens to them

athaboi:
What different will it make, are they not going to be awarded to some other people close to the president? Will it be given to a poor man? Will it have a direct effect on the poor masses out there? Will it give the people of Niger delta the recourse control they have been clamouring for? Will it give speedy acceleration to the deregulation of the oil sector? Will it encourage more refineries to be built? Will it reduce the price of petrol? He has just retrieved the licence to be given to people close to him simple

you are asking the right questions

JasonScoolari:
Just yesterday, it was all about the 49yrs old widow who was fuucked to death by her 29yrs old lover boy,

Here we are today looking at the case brought before us involving a useless Koffi who's a shame to Ghanian men worldwide.

The truth is, Ghanian men are LAZY and when I say LAZY, they're extremely LAZY.

No apologies whatsoever to any Ghanian reading this.

I will not agree with you 100 %

more laid back yes

but laxy?

Not quite

And btw I do business with them occasionally tho

LuciferMessiah:
Typical double standards from feminists whenever a desperate feminist is exposed for selling herself cheaply to a man.

When a guy does it, he should be laughed at & mocked but when a woman does it, she should be encouraged and her request (however unreasonable it may be) must be granted to "make her feel better".


She has been rejected and that's that!
RUBBISH!!!



*spits

You have said it all

kakakii:
I was being sarcastic in that context

I see

kakakii:
I'm not here to argue or trade words rather to provide my view from practical point of views.
I have tried setting up business in some African countries and I know which is doing well while some things are relative Nigeria is still better than most African countries I repeat, you can let the UN index hinder you from carrying out proper research in setting up a business

You have to remember the subject here is about setting up a profitable business and the comparison is between African countries not Norway

Nigeria is still a shit hole country and that's the reality but I'm not here to talk about where we got it wrong ( I'm tired of complaining about that) and I'm not here to put blame on the government ( I'm also tired of that) I'm comparing Nigeria to other African countries in terms of setting up business.

You said
What is the point in having a “ good” economy if you can’t provide a good life for your citizens?

Well the good thing about it is that we know we have money and we. Just need someone to put it to good use ( without embezzling it)
And we know we are not Somalia

We can all sit down and start complaining or look at the possibilities

All African countries are shitholes (Ghana inclusive, NIGERIA inclusive )
only very few can be seen as not too shitty (the likes of Morocco)

Just that some are more shitty than others e.g. South Africa being less shitty than Ghana, and Ghana being less shitty than Liberia

And some $hitholes are failed, some are failing and some have refused to fail

kakakii:
Oh I just went through your Post and see that you spent your whole time here defending Ghana, I trust you must be a Ghanaian.. I love your patriotism, that's another thing Nigeria doesn't have.. Nigerians on this thread should learn from you..

BTW. My GF is living in Ghana

Pretending that all is well is not a sign of patriotism tho

Calling out the inadequacies of your country so that they will change is real patriotism.
I cannot see what is going wrong and keep quiet

You see how Americans are on Trumps neck

they could pretend all is well.....

But patriotism is not that

We love our country but things have to change

PetroDollax:
Thank you. This is the honest, well-informed view most Nigerians need to hear. Most Nigerians are too fixed on the giant of Africa, largest economy mantra, while other African countries are steadily building their economies. I have been back in Ghana since 2010. I have seen the gradual positive changes that are happening in Ghana.

It doesn’t make sense to throw your weight around, saying I am the largest economy in Africa, and crap when your country is not only poor but has no clear agenda to move forward. Other African countries are making progress but Nigeria is stuck in the past. Some of you should travel around Africa more.

we have a bad president and that slowed out progress

Nigeria was one of the fastest growing economies in the world with so much prospects under previous govts, we elected an idiot and all of that progress has been reversed to an extent
Nigeria still have MORE business potential than the rest of West Africa out together
But the operating environment right now is not the best
we have very enterprising people BUT the laws and business climate is not the best RIGHT NOW
things could still change when a new leader comes in tho
Nigeria is NOT poor, it only has too many poor people
there is a difference

The riches in Nigeria cannot be attained by a Ghana, Ivory Coast or even a Senegal in a century
We just have more poor people, that's it. (extremely poor)
The middle class is thin; but it's more in absolute terms than say Ghana or CIV

Nigeria RIGHT now is struggling but still has potential

Ghana voting in a bad leader will equally send Ghana into a worse position that it is if care is not taken.

And your statement is true

Ghana is making steady progress.
But still needs to work on the currency aspect tho.
But Ghana is doing well.

kutashi:
Rubber stamping is not the problem if it is in the interest of masses but using a body to create a bottleneck against the masses because you an unrepentant thieve is far worse than rubber stamping.
May we never have someone like him again either in Kwara, Nigeria or on earth! Aamin

a rubber stamp legislature is A DANGER

Nigerians don't have the sense to comprehend that

kakakii:
because we lack basic amenities ( security , 24/7 electricty, good roads and water ) people always mistake it for bad economy and think other african countries is the best place to start business compare to Nigeria.

Nigeria has a lot of problem but when we are comparing ourselves with other African countries we take the lead. take Kenya for example they have the basic amenities but their economy is not as vibrant as Nigeria own, electricity in Nairobi is 24/7 and security is top notch, if your business revolve around electricity then you will find kenya interesting but overall Nigeria is better than most african countries.



just like the other guy have said, don't be deceived by what you read online and in the news, foreign investors are storming Nigeria on a daily basis ( especially the chinese, not the chinese government, the chinese! )

foreign investors are pouring into Ghana, CIV and even Senegal in their numbers too

Infact too much FDI compared to their size
so the investors you see coming to Ngr is no big deal in the real sense of it compared to the sizE of the economy

The countries ailing in FDI from what I have experienced is guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone /Burkina to an extent...

Nigeria is no longer the beautiful bride for FDI as if used to be...
Those of us in the system know

What still keeps Nigeria to an extent is the bigger market, but that's it
take that away and Nigeria as it is is useless

The future could be really bright for these Africans countries
all we need are sensible policies

A rubber stamp Senate president?

Nigeria is FINISHED

It is in a failed $hithole zoo That one arm of the gov't (executive) is anointing who leads another arm (legislature)

let's face it..

this democracy thing is not for NiggeeAreans

The country is too backward in reasoning to practice democracy in the real sense of it..

Maybe a China model is what that ailing country needs.

To think that many support this tragedy buttress my point

eni4real:
It is a lesson to all Slay Feminists too. Because they have pretty faces, so they think every successful man is owing them money and must cash out!!!
Both gender should learn self-respect!!!

Evil Forest be like " Never date or marry any lady who see herself as a mere object of sexual satisfaction to men"
Better respect yourself!!!

good response

women like to excuse the foolishness of their fellow women

*tufia*

bukatyne:
When we tell people to be careful, they assume that we do not want them to enjoy, they are superior to women and can do anything, they are master Keys etc.

Say what you will about Beckham, he married Victoria, had kids and entered house.

Find a decent girl and wife up.

If you want to do everywhere you go, carry your wife along.

He is lucky he did not hit her.

There is no hypo that would have washed him clean.

False rape allegations should carry same penalty as rape.

If 20 women sleep in prison for seven years, others would have sense.

The woman is a use less tramp and a fvcking fool...

in fact they are both foolish fools...

Women like these sometimes make it hard for some men to realky respect women

princeade86:
but uncle akon said many of them are broke ass.

and you believed him lol

Fuqman:
So many Western celebs earn big because they capitalize on their fame to create wealth. That's hard work and creativeness. On the contrary, their counterparts in Naija, na to dey share their ancestors d*ck and be shouting "small girl with big God".. Smh.

Well

you womt blame them
the environment they were victims of and unfortunate to find themselves shaped them and their mentality /world view

In a country filled with Rapacious rent seekers, where is the incentive to be innovative or productive?


That's why I try not to blame Nigerians
They are victims of their environment in this failed country