₦airaland Forum

naunasabi:
@thebosstrevor why do Nigerians think it is all about money?

What about quality of life? Last time I checked the life expectancy in that poo-hole is around 50 years. Moving to country like Germany automatically increases your life expectancy by about 30 years on the average.

What about opportunity? Yes you can make money in Nigeria but then how much are we talking about? Being a middle class doesn't spare your children the horror of everyday life in Nigerian or how uncertain the future look. Unless you are among the top earners in Nigeria which will afford you the means to ship your children abroad for a better life. Which brings me back to the question if Nigeria is that great after making the money since that is your sole indicator of a wonderful life why don't you leave your kids in Nigeria instead of carting them away?

To the average man on the street, Nigeria is one of the worse place to be born and to live in. Go to the west the average man on the street has a prospect if they work towards it. In Nigeria working hard towards your goal doesn't cut it, you have to be very lucky and know people. I know that there are group of people that will counter this point but my question to those people is to compare the number of those that did it without knowing anyone with those that knew someone. While when you look at the west the element of luck and knowing someone is insignificant on how your life turns out.

@thebosstrevor you won't know the quality of life until you get home from work, flip the switch and there is power. Step into your tube and take a warm bath thereafter relax in your sofa without any worries of whether the power will be on when you wake up in the morning or if the tap will be running in the morning. You wont known the quality of life or what it really means to make it until you have emergency medical condition and all you need to do is dial emergency services and their will be medical personnel right there at your home to save your life.

Even in your so called money haven- even if you managed to amass a lot of money when you have medical emergency the service you will get is a far cry from a decent one. I forgot all your billionaires are still running abroad for medical checkup.

As for the poor man he is on his own!

Yes to me making it, is living in a society where everyone has equal or at least near equal opportunity of charting the course of their lives.

Making it to me is living in a society where I don't have to worry about the mundane things of life like security, health , education, human right, job security etc. You can be making money but mine and I can speak for most people is living in a decent society.

To us that is what making it is all about a society where human life has value!


Cc lastical, Seun, ishilove please help move our ministry to front page.

I knew someone will throw in a rebuttal

you have solid points there

bluefilm:
Wise and true words.

Truth is, a small candle light is enough to light up a very dark room.

I believe you got what I'm trying to say?

The Chinese system is what we need in Nigeria

it's not perfect, but it WILL WORK

Nigerians are largely uncivilized animals and to correct that, you need FORCE....

IRON HAND!

You mess up in China, you will be messed up thoroughly

You mess uo in Nigeria, you beg or bribe your way out of it

So you see, we need iron fist to correct us by force

One party state for say 20 years with progressives from across the country (tribe should not realky matter) forcing us to do the right thing

A lot of things will be fixed that way

BOOMnaija:
I am a nigerian and i am proud to be nigerian..i stay in nigeria and i work hard everyday to get better and better...i am happy to say i'm making it right here in naija and i dont need to move to any other country to make it...i dont even want to live elsewhere apart from nigeria.

Goid for you


unfortunately, not everyone share that sentiment

Saintp:
Bros, most Nigerians want a second option or country for themselves and their kids. Having Nigeria as your one and only country you have access to is one of the biggest risk you can ever take. People like us in the middle class left Nigeria not actually because we want to "make" it but because we want our children to live where things work and get a second passport.

If the likes of Saraki, Tinubu, Ben Bruce, Rochas etc and even "integrity " Buhari children have citizenship or access to other countries even with their wealth and influence here why will an average Nigerian get stuck in the shithole? Or you want to tell me that you are more patriotic than them?

good question

bluefilm:
As long as you keep thinking or believing it can't be built, it shall remain so.

Reason why?

Of course, as a man thinketh, so is he.

oga

most Nigerians are dead wood economically and mentally

There is a small pool of millennial Nigerians trying to help out in the country

But they are being stifled by the larger society of dead weight useless citizens

I'll tell you the honest truth

Except a progressive group in the form of say the Chinese communist party seizes power, suspends democratic elections and uses an iron fist to mould this country, put most crimes at the penalty of death and force development, Nigeria will remain a $hithole because most of its citizens are just a little above animals

selling their votes to the highest bidder and voting out of ethnic and religious sentiment

How can the democracy work in this system

my earlier proposition of force is the only thing that can save that $hithole country

bluefilm:
I think it's simply because Nigerians, most especially their youths, too like already-made things.

It is in their blood.

For instance, their young women want already-made husbands.

When it comes to earning money, most of their youth will go for already-made jobs rather than starting their own business.

So it shouldn't surprise anyone when these youths head for abroad to 'make it' there in an already-made flourishing and buoyant economy rather than making their own economy to become vibrant.

No wonder one wise king once termed them ''lazy youths''.

does the country look like some thing that can be built?

naunasabi:
@op why do Nigerians think it is all about money?

What about quality of life? Last time I checked the life expectancy in that shit-hole is around 50 years. Moving to country like Germany automatically increases your life expectancy by about 30 years on the average.

What about opportunity? Yes you can make money in Nigeria but then how much are we talking about? Being a middle class doesn't spare your children the horror of everyday life in Nigerian or how uncertain the future look. Unless you are among the top earners in Nigeria which will afford you the means to ship your children abroad for a better life. Which brings me back to the question if Nigeria is that great after making the money since that is your sole indicator of a wonderful life why don't you leave your kids in Nigeria instead of carting them away?

To the average man on the street, Nigeria is one of the worse place to be born and to live in. Go to the west the average man on the street has a prospect if they work towards it. In Nigeria working hard towards your goal doesn't cut it, you have to be very lucky and know people. I know that there are group of people that will counter this point but my question to those people is to compare the number of those that did it without knowing anyone with those that knew someone. While when you look at the west the element of luck and knowing someone is insignificant on how your life turns out.

@op you won't know the quality of life until you get home from work, flip the switch and there is power. Step into your tube and take a warm bath thereafter relax in your sofa without any worries of whether the power will be on when you wake up in the morning or if the tap will be running in the morning. You wont known the quality of life or what it really means to make it until you have emergency medical condition and all you need to do is dial emergency services and their will be medical personnel right there at your home to save your life.

Even in your so called money haven- even if you managed to amass a lot of money when you have medical emergency the service you will get is a far cry from a decent one. I forgot all your billionaires are still running abroad for medical checkup.

As for the poor man he is on his own!

Yes to me making it, is living in a society where everyone has equal or at least near equal opportunity of charting the course of their lives.

Making it to me is living in a society where I don't have to worry about the mundane things of life like security, health , education, human right, job security etc. You can be making money but mine and I can speak for most people is living in a decent society.

To us that is what making it is all about!

you have said it all

thebosstrevor:
you sometimes make me wanna puck

i guess in ur small brain. YOu think people dont make it in nigeria. YOU are outdated.

I have seen nigerian sharing papers in the winter, i have seen 10 nigerians sleeping in a tight room all in that your so called abroad. The nigeria that you see as hell. I see it as heaven a place to make good cash.you are short sighted,maybe that is why you cant see the big picture.

that's all you are looking at....


Cash, make it big, etc..


who is now the materialistic one?

ithink7:
You selfish idiot. Your jihadist agenda is dead on arrival. We're ready to deal with all of you. Nigeria is greater than a lifeless president

naa

the guy is consumed in tribalism /nepotism

He knows Buhari is a failure

but tribalism /nepotism is the fuel

yemi15:
What did you expect? SMH. You want Buhari not to use his underage almajiri without PVCs to win the election.

The NASS is the only hope now but with APC reps and senators not going against the party, that bill seems dead on arrival. As usual, our docile people will not vote such people against the two thirds majority to veto the bill out as payment for the consequences SMH.

I have given up on this country, just finding the money needed to go out. It will probably take a century, even more unfortunately, till our docile people start making our leaders accountable.

It is this hard during Buhari's first term, I shudder to think what will happen when (yes I said when because the 2019 elections will be highly rigged unfortunately even though I am Atikulated) he wins thee second term.

Time to get my visa out of this country by at most 2020.

Yea

The country don sink finish


Running away seems to be a plausible option

but whatever you do, make sure it's not "illegal"

Safe journey

grandstar:
Good Idea but Nigerian students aren't ready to be pay the real cost of education and there are no student loans available

exactly so

Vibesking:
How about affordability, Did he consider that?
All these dimwits politicians advocating for the Federal Government to privatise all the sector of our economy are clearly living on a different world.
They privatised power and where has that gotten us? Some areas haven't seen a blink in months!
I've never seen a nation that wholeheartedly wore its incompetence and shamelessly delegate its duties to outsiders.

Privatise Federal Universities my foot! You think its every family that can afford the fees uh? Inconsiderate mofo!

if you dimwits are content with paying peanut fees


then you guys should be content with peanut service and quality

seunmsg:
History will be very kind to freeze. In some years to come, people will look back and wonder how their parents and grandparents were so gullible to actually believed the fraudsters parading Nigeria today as god of men. People like freeze will be seen as the few who led the revolution to expose the silliness of fraudulent pastors. William Wilberforce and co were not popular in their days, today, they are celebrated as heroes that fought against slavery; Freeze will be celebrated like them in years to come.

true that

Originalsly:
Hmmm....he gave details about the buyer....couldn't they go to the hotel to arrest the master mind?...who most likely has others stealing ?....and would have a whole lot of stuff at the hotel? But...is something within us....we will go after the poor criminal...but back off the ones that are likely to have big bank accounts.

too sad mehn


The $hithole is further slipping into the abyss

Angy55:
Delta state is currently in a huge mess. I sorry for the youths of my state.

too bad

Lexusgs430:
Let's even put weak currency to one side, £336 is a lot of money for a pair of shoe.....

But on certain aspects, spending hard currency for a visitor might have you doing quick calculations and aborting misson...... But, we only live once......

of course its a lot of money for shoes

Coming from a $hithole country with $hithole currency makes the predicament even worse.

90%of Nigerian workers don t even make that amount in one month


You are right, you only Iive once


But reckless spending is out of it for me

ArmedRobber:
the truth is obasanjo could not sell atiku presidency to the world powers , obj tried but they reject atiku's presidency. the visa issue was the last straw that broke the camel back.
obj told atiku to travel to uk and wait while he negotiate soft landing for him after ensuring he got visa.but baba was told atiku presidency is dead on arrival he should back down and atiku will be arrested whenever he touched down in america.

so the bulk of Nigerians will rather have a failed president go for a second term

Indeed, this $hithole is FINISHED

nothingspoil70:
Why are these children of hate always angry when they hear or read anything positive about Nigeria?
I hope it won't be too late before we Nigerians realise what we have and that wherever you may go on self-imposed exile, even with the passport of the host nation on your hands, you and your children Will still be referred to as a Nigerian

?

your grand kids will not be referred to as Nigerian tho
They will be of Nigerian descent

there are two different things
..
The same way Trump is of German descent even tho he us American president

or Kardashian being of Armenian descent despite being American

or even Sarkozy of Hungarian descent even tho he became the French President

chris31:
U won't understand & u never no why Linda Ikeji feel so excited when she had a male child bah

Linda is an mgbeke

what do you expect

chris31:
U can say whatever u want to me but pls find an elder in ur family & ask him to explain the meaning of what i wrote earlier no matter how civilized we 3rd world country claimed we are the syndrome of male child still exist in our respective society I hate it when people don't acknowledge the truth in public

Such mentality is weakening gradually

Give it another 30 to 40 years

that repugnant mentality will be expunged

especially amongst we Igbos

A kid is a kid.....

opribo:
Wow, people like you are to be feared. I grew up to know that ones name

hmmm
why should I be feared?
Because I do stuff without giving a f**k about what the society thinks?

chris31:
Mikel western culture have finally occupied ur brain & ur mentality have changed but don't forget were u come from
If u no have a male child na wetin u gain?

no big deal.....

You will your properties and trust to the women if no make kid comes on board.....

This should not even be an issue

Lexusgs430:
Even at that...... That's about £336.00 per pair. Some might cost way more or less.... But just for calculations sake.......

coming from Nigeria with a weak currency often messes up my pysche when I want to purchase certain things

You go to a restaurant and they say the bill is say $24 for example, I start doing maths in my head and start feeling sorry for myself

Even in Ghana, each time I buy a drink for 3.5 cedis as opposed to 1.3 cedis equivalent in Nigeria, I will just he shaking my head


but to them, it's not much of a big deal.....
dem don present the shoe for bend down select
make una buy o

opribo:
Our own is not on social media so nobody knows us. If it works out great if not at least she still has her dignity intact.

This one now we can only pray that Davido doesn't dumb her after all said and done else she will have a name that will be following her. Like all the ex babymama of our celebrities that have moved on the social media never stops to refer to them as ex babymama of so so person while the celebrities are not so tagged.

Your "dignity" part is highly misogynistic......
If they are "tagged"
.So what?
The thing is that these women in many cases refuse to be useful to themselves


If they are, no matter the tag the useless Nigerian society gives them for their past, they are getting ahead and living life.

Everyone should be useful to themselves and forget what the society has to say.

litdutchboy:
Nigeria poverty rate is due to corrupt leaders like Atiku and Tifnubu that divert govenment money to buy private jets,
Nigeria has the most materialistic and corrupt leaders that have ever existed in mankind.

true that

the elite are wicked, ruthless and heartless

They want to enjoy alone and the country suffer

lonelydora:
Cultism in Rivers State is like a normal thing for every family. You see people boldly talking about it openly. Lecturers, Policemen, even teachers identify with one cult group or another.

They now have it even in secondary schools (boys and girls schools inclusive)


Icelanders, Vikings, etc.

A wasted generation in a finished country


Shame.

sawdi:
Ritual killing is one of the most underrated crime in Nigeria. The number of people that die due to it will surprise you, thing is it's only the ones that we see we know. Just imagine it!

EXACTLY


it's too bad

Factgist:
I dont think there is any top Nigerian traditional ruler who doesnt beloong to a secret society doing secret sacrifices for secret gods in secret hidden places

oh really?

trillville:
My opinion differs from the majority of people on this thread.

Is the problem with our public education system unqualified teachers or a confused political system that doesn't have it's priorities straight.

In capitalist America, quality primary and secondary school education is provided by the government to all citizens. In communist China, the same applies.
This is not a matter of whether the federal government or state government should be responsible.

A standard classroom should not have more than 25 students to a teacher. This is necessary.

Apart from education, the core functions of governments include health and security. Every other thing is Jara.

Today, parents struggle to get their kids admitted into unity schools. Why hasn't the government built more schools. Do they expect to provide the same amount of service given to 40 million Nigerians in 1960 to 200 million Nigerians in 2018?

The government would complain about lack of funding but what are they spend 90 percent of our oil revenue on unproductive public and civil servants. What percent of Nigerians work for the government? About 10 percent. So all the benefits of our wealth should only go to 10 percent of Nigerians?


Shouldn't the government first reduce it's unproductive civil servants in its various unproductive MDA'S first before reducing unqualified teachers in its extremely important education sector.

you have a point

fatima04:
That shoe must take someone to heaven oo 18,500 pounds ke

the 18500 is for the 55 pairs of shoes, not a single shoe
just saying

AfonjaBoston:
Just read all what you typed again and ask yourself "I well so?"

America is 320m people plus
why would she want to hire someone from outside?
especially when it is not a high skilled job
even high skilled job sef