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Clearly this tech is not for everyone.

pazienza:
Igboboy, there is no need to debate with a guy who is ashamed of his ethnicity,ignore him.

igbo boy:
Based on your poosie move not to state what your ethnicity is our debate has been effectively cancelled, why hide under a cloak are you scared I will dissect you?

And please I am from Delta State which was part of the old Midwest (I cant speak for all midwestern igbos but i know 100% my people where pro biafra) so dont go here blabbing as if igbos are only found in the East,

I wont respond to any further posts from you until you lay down what set you claim fool (as in ethnicity) then we can be debating on an equal playing field,

Anuofia am out

Ugwumba:
Oh for God's sake, go on if you enjoy what you are doing. I will be back sometime when this thread has degenerated to ask you again - What have you achieved?


PS - you may think that having a purely intellectual debate on issues we can all find quotes and material to support our positions is the right way to go. Unfortunately, I keep the end game in sight. What is your message? There were no pogroms and each side was equally guilty? If I agree with you, will you then cease to argue, or do you also have this egomaniac's urge to get everyone to agree with you?

CyberG,
See what I warned about. Yes, you have not resorted to explicit tribal insults, but if you continue with this discussion you will very surely open fresh wounds. I am sure you were taught that not every argument is worth making, and if made, not every one is worth winning. You fall into the same trap as 'holocaust deniers' - the 1966 pogroms are not an intellectual and dispassionate debate, it is emotional, heartfelt, and for many Ibos of my generation, LIVED. Can you understand this, and, if not, can you be the bigger person and drop this?

Okay, good night.

Oh for God's sake, go on if you enjoy what you are doing. I will be back sometime when this thread has degenerated to ask you again - What have you achieved?


PS - you may think that having a purely intellectual debate on issues we can all find quotes and material to support our positions is the right way to go. Unfortunately, I keep the end game in sight. What is your message? There were no pogroms and each side was equally guilty? If I agree with you, will you then cease to argue, or do you also have this egomaniac's urge to get everyone to agree with you?

[quote author=pres-elect link=topic=831494.msg9853983#msg9853983 date=1325129523]you guys are busy fighting yourselves here. last time i went to ohio, come and see successful igbos and yorubas working together and helping each other to progress. there are many igbos in the dayton area of ohio, few northerners and some yorubas too, they formed a union and elected a yoruba to lead them, re-elected him year after year unopposed, last year the guy refused to be reelected and the nigerians went and chose another yoruba man to lead them.

they are there, igbo, hausa yoruba doing well and helping each other, una dey here de fight. na wa o.[/quote]And the most amusing thing is that none of them, on both sides, actually experienced what they are writing about, and are reading sectional authors who re-invent history.

CyberG:
Read my post again and you may want to edit this one (and I will do the same). You will see I didn't register here yesterday and do you think I will be forced to leave? Do you know that Ezeuche is one of the most ardent and worst tribalists / racists / bigots on NLand and were he born into a different race, he will find it of no consequence to dispatch you to your grave based only on race?

And, I have on occassion pointed this out to him. If you see him that way, what then are you trying to achieve, other than to bring other tribalists and bigots in and start throwing insults here. If you are so learned, do you consider this argument worth making? Are there no other positive things you feel inclined to apply your intellectual prowess to.

Counter arguments on what? You, being young, assume that everything can be settled by arguing on events you never experienced.

Please look at the topic for this thread and try to reason with yourself why the discussion is now about whether or not the Ibos were victims of genocide.

Wisdom comes with experience, and those who have never experienced war are the ones who think gunshots make for beautiful music.

EzeUche, if you ignore him, he cannot continue much more. He is trying to goad you into a response that he can continue to bite on. IGNORE HIM, and he will be forced to leave.

CyberG:
Here is a somewhat more detailed general education for you about the origins of genocide and the propaganda that is mouthed by a lot of people. There is a saying that when you REPEAT A LIE OVER AND OVER AGAIN, IT BEGINS TO SEEM AS TRUTH. This lie has been debunked for so long and you can imagine that in a 100 years, there would still be more people who will find out the truth themselves. Now read, patiently and I have highlighted most of the posting for less patient readers:

Okay, it is a lie - there was no mass killing of the Ibo. Happy now? Find another topic to draw attention to yourself.

CyberG, please explain how Uwazurike's succession to Ojukwu concerns you? Very soon, you will start another 'tribal' discourse here.

EzeUche:
That would be great for the Ndigbo.

It would help protect our language.

EzeUche, must you reduce everything to this Ndigbo dialogue that always starts the quarrelling? Your much touted unity of the Ibo man is just wishful thinking. Just check what happens with civil servants of the 'brother' Ibo states and you will come to the same conclusion I arrived at long ago. There is more strength in diversity than there is in 'commonality'.

hildaa:
How come you have a 7 years old child and you have just been married for 4 years?

Answered yet?

Into what units? If you split in three, minorities will be cheated - in 6 regions, all the 'common' ethnic tribes will find that they are different, in 500 units, my family no go allow your own rule us.

So, such a complex nation must face its issues, not by splitting, but discussing issues and agreeing a governance model that is truly decentralized. Time for a Sovereign National Conference.

chino11:
@Ugwumba, why kedu ihe m mere gi? Why do you have to quote me in your gibberish comment?

chino11, don't you think you are helping to stoke the fire of the hateful messages in this thread?

Why should you be spared, if you do not choose your comments and words?

aribisala0:
and who released you from your lair to come and make decrees

And this deserves a reply?

The next person to throw an insult on the other tribe, whether in reply to a previous insult, or a fresh one, should be regarded as the worst type in NL.

dayokanu:
[size=28pt]Ceasefire now lets make peace.

Lets intermarry

I Dayokanu a Yoruba Shango worshipper wants to marry Freecocoa a Igbo Christian

Lets make peace in this we cuntry[/size]

Oya Eze onlytruth what are the items I need to bring?

Good man.

ThiefOfHearts:
I tweeted Seun so I assume this thread will be locked soon.

Is that good enough?  

Yes, and good on you.  

ThiefOfHearts:
I was hoping you wouldnt see that  

But yea it's true, from all my years on this forsaken board. You are truly the only one.  

Can you help stop this madness?

ak47mann:
Yoruba lele ule  

And you think, you are any better because you are Ibo?  

ThiefOfHearts:
AMC, are you sure your mother is a real Igbo woman?  

wetin corcern your family with "ofe mmanu" woman?  

Oh, and ToH, this is one Ibo man that has NEVER insulted you. Just checking that you too do not over-generalize.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=833237.msg9851815#msg9851815 date=1325095645]Write in english or yoruba.i dont understand this alien language you wrote with here.I dont understand o.our ibo brothers just dey vex that there is nothing they can learn from yoruba.the thing dey pepper them wella wella. [/quote]And you have been teaching them what they should learn?

There is a lot to learn, from both sides, but not sure anything in this thread shows that.

My generation might have fought a war, from this much younger generation, stupidity seems to reign.

Now understand why your degrees (for the ones who have managed) count for nothing.


You cannot have a sensible discourse without all the tribal nonsense.

coogar:
what are they fighting over?

Fools on one side, idiots on the other. What do you think?

Both sides not making much sense, and TOLERANCE has since taken a walk.

EzeUche:
My brother you do not know the Yoruba vipers that post in this section. Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.

There are no Yoruba vipers, just as there are no Ibo vipers. If you folks cannot discuss in a 'tolerant' manner, then do not discuss at all.

Each of you falls into the trap of conversing using your base instincts, instead of stepping back and letting your education lead your tongue.

This thread about learning tolerance has degenerated to an intolerant rant by folks on both sides of the divide. How does this help?

Assume you can point me to where I called chino11 intelligent? His rants are just as stupid as yours.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=833237.msg9849915#msg9849915 date=1325079992]So the likes of freecocoa,chino11 and others qualified to speak for ibos abi ? Now i know you dont need to tell me your ethnic group before I know what you are.If you aren't ibo,you wont have counted chino11 as being intelligent ![/quote]No they are not. How does that make what you are doing right? If they need to learn tolerance from you, what are you teaching with your rants?

How can you on the one hand talk about learning tolerance from the Yoruba, and at the same time show such intolerance?

Eko Ile:
Oloshi. do you fools even know the meaning of bigots? What you fools are displaying is bigotry unlimited you dum.b a.s, ss olodo


Den post article written by another ibo man, posted on another ibo website , the no get anything to do with ibo people, but you low self esteem clowns still managed to go on a rampage and make it about yourself and turn it into ibo an all out ibo affairs,


I mean, how sad and pathetic can



You losers are the true sons and daughters of AGIPA

Another 'tolerant' Yoruba man, I presume? Shame on you and your idiocy speaks volumes. Continue.

valacious:
Poster is right, boko haram and other tribes should learn from the yoruba's about the word tolerance. Lagos for instance is home to several tribes of different religion, and they've always had a muslim as a governor in a multi-religious lagos, i think education can account for this tolerance. Even core muslim countries like saudi, egypr, tunisia dont massacre christians like we witness here in Nigeria, no excuse exists for such murder!

Well said, but assume you are not referring to some of the folks who have claimed to be Yoruba here, and are clearly the most intolerant.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=833237.msg9849820#msg9849820 date=1325079192]Typical okoro always blaming yorubas for their failure and misfortunes.I admitted my lack of formal education but i'm not as stu-pid as you to play hide and seek because the trouble-makers are my tribesmen.[/quote]As I knew, you would again resort to mention of tribe. I direct my statements to you, not as a Yoruba man, but based purely on the inciting and clearly base statements you have made in this discourse. Continue, as the more you say, the more the perceptive people here will understand where you are coming from.

You did not have to admit your lack of formal education - very clear in your logic (or lack of it) and your fallback to using ethnicity as cover for your stupidity. As I stated, there are many smart Yoruba folks BUT YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THEM, and cannot speak for such an intelligent tribe with your gibberish.

EzeUche:
I dey laugh o!  

An Igbo lady has taken care of the Yoruba little boys.

EzeUche,
I also take offence to bigotry in an Ibo man. No matter how provoked, stay above the fray and discuss the individuals or issues with no reference to ethnicity.