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DissTroy:
On the flip side, Naija boys become mentees to the ignored wives of these foreign mentors like British and European women trooping to the beaches of The Gambia to find African men in their elements so much so it contributes a sizeable portion to The Gambia's GDP.

GDP growth is GDP growth.

Really? This happens?

Nawa oo. I guess equality is equality at the end of the day.

Ici c'est Paris

Make una bring out una calculators

DissTroy:
Pages 18 and 20. I attached the Q3 NBS report PDF. EDIT: Nairaland rejected so I'd attach the link instead. https://www.nigerianstat.gov.ng/download/1241593
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Every time you read the overview, it reads thus: ICT (Telecommunications). Heck! Flutterwave, for example, isn't even a telecommunications company, but it straddles ICT as a subset and the Financial Sector.

You know what, is Flutterwave or OPay an ICT or Financial Services company? It's a simple A or B. But if it is both, you've answered your own quizzing.

I'm struggling here not to make you or your argument sound silly. But believe me, they are as nonsensical as they come.

Do you even understand what GDP is ? and what it is calculating?. Do you even know what approach is being used to compute it and how different it is for each sectors?.

Do you even know that for financial services - there's a standardized metric called FISIM, that's used which has no basis or origin in ICT activity.

How the hell does economic activity within a small space like flutterwave and the likes account for a whole financial service and insurance sector. huh?

You started out by saying ICT contributes the most, when pointed to your error, you are now saying, I should merge it with financial services - Because of some fintechs that doesnt even do 5% of what the big banks are doing in terms of economic activity so all should be classified as ICT.

Guess what, even if both are merged, the 2 combined are still not contributing as much as Agriculture.

Maybe you'll look for another wrangle this time or we can just agree to disagree. This is looking like a needless argument not worth my time

DissTroy:
Walk me through the calculation? LOL.

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Agriculture fluctuates just like others.

Telecommunications combines with the financial sector.
For example, OPAY, Moniepoint, Flutterwave e.t.c staddle both sectors, and the GDPs are combined to be for total ICT.

I don't know if you just read the overviews for each quarter or you're googling on the go for this argument, but every NBS quarterly report has about 34 pages detailing the calculations and explanations for the intersection or overlapping of sectors.

You'd get it when you download the actual attached files which are PDFs and Google Spreadsheets.

ICT has been our strong point for years now. ICT being a condensation of subsectors. And the Service supersector (if I'd call it that) has been driving our economy for years. Sometimes even up to 70%. Every NBS report state this much. Do way more than quick searches in the heat of the moment.

I'm not googling on the go to debate this. My post history already shows I regularly and judiciously study these reports, not in t heat of argues looking to one-up or have a gotcha moment.

I'm not one to make up arguments for the sake of it. Not especially a field i'm well versed in. You are actually preaching to the choir in terms of reading the reports detail by detail

The image I posted earlier was actually me going as granular as possible and I did the calculation myself for you using the same spreadsheet in the link I posted earlier. I didnt google it, Infact, you wont find that image anywhere else.

Let me make it easy for you, there's been no quarter in recent times where ICT outpaced Agriculture. Point me to one, I'll be happy to retract but please be sure you can actually go detail by detail in terms of the calculation.

Another error in your post - Nowhere is financial services sector combined with ICT for the sake of GDP computation, The two are quite distinct with varying levels of dependencies in terms of economic output.

Doesnt matter if your post has stated it a thousand times in the past, It's still wrong today just as it was wrong those thousand times.

DissTroy:
It's the ICT sector. Not agriculture. ICT has been the biggest contributor to our GDP for years now. It's not the first time I have mentioned it on this thread. I did in late 2022 and 2023. I did not long ago when debating with some older seasoned economists. They were just as surprised too. I've been aggregating since 2021 particularly. Vital information when one is crafting a pitch deck for VCs and others.

I posted exact links to several quarterly NBS reports to back up my claims. Please open several such reports for each quarter in the last two years even to compare sectoral GDP contribution.

If the Nigerian government had its priorities right, since we are a mostly service economy and haven't laid the ground work to compete advantageously on the manufacturing front, we'd fund and craft policies which enable us operate better as a service economy.

Similar to trade deals which enable India act as a gig economy for outsourcing to the West. You should see GDP boosts for India from the gig sector too. You'd be impressed. Similar to deals the Philippines has with Oceania countries like Australia and New Zealand. It's a gig economy somewhat too.
The only other African country doing something close is Rwanda. And they don't even have the skilled labour like us.

One of the reasons I was excited when Osinbajo wanted to contest. That's why I had I high hopes for Minister Bosun. I hope he still delivers. These are two of the people who demonstrably understand these issues.

No, its not

Take it from me. I can even walk you through the calculation (You know what, I'll do it again for you). See image attached

Its the same reason why i posted the link to the data. Again you need to know how these data are calculated to make these kinds of arguments

joseph1832:
Here I was thinking the entertainment industry is the biggest contributor to our GDP since it's boom in recent time. Lol

I had to do a double check cos from memory, I know it isnt IT or Fintech. It actually is agriculture

Think I may have mentioned it at some point to disstroy. However his point still stands as IT is the second/third biggest contributor and the biggest in the service industry.

https://www.nigerianstat.gov.ng/elibrary

GloriousGbola:
The lady is one of those who puts her life online. That much is clear. So are there any videos or pictures of her in camp, in ppa, and in uniform

Her name is completely out, and yet no one in NYSC issued an official statement that Corper Bleep with number Bleep is summoned to hq?

Somehow there are no pictures of her with her fellow Corpers?

Unless they are all over the threads. I mean we have see pictures of her linkedin profile, videos of her having fun, but somehow no videos of her on duty as a Corper?

Think I agree with semid4lyfe.

The bolded is a joker Nysc or the officials has on the girl.

She's likely to be one of those who ghosts or just come around for clearance considering her main/side hustle.

Doubt she has the time to perform her actual duties at her PPA. All they have to do is scrutinize all her documents especially if you consider the typical vindictive nature of government workers/officials.

Hopefully for her sake, all her i's are dotted and there's no part that's inconsistent, otherwise, they'll get their pound of flesh back.

Personally, I think she's just an attention seeker on a publicity drive so make she calm down cos its in her best interest

Looks like a publicity move especially with some of the key words used - Lagos is smelling, Tinubu bla bla bla, Rising cost ...

Also looks like an attention seeker. Looked for her Upwork profile and no presence there too. Make she sha calm down before they come for her. Some of her stuff no dey add up

swiz123:
I specifically told him I don’t have ulcer and told him I don’t have pain in my tummy despite him asking repeatedly.

The headache returned after I stopped taking paracetamol, that’s probably why he prescribed a stronger one.

He sent me lifestyle modification which basically will turn me to a priest.

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7. Don't get angry/upset

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Surely, you dont intend to watch Chelsea's match today then

BlueRayDick:
People doing this PA/EA jobs are the real MVPs o. Sometimes I do wonder if they really have a life of their own outside their oga's life and schedule.

This job overview made me remember few years ago when I wanted to join one of the companies Aig-imoukhuede was the chairman. The last stage in the recruitment process is for you to meet Aig one-on-one, have a chat with him and in the course of the chat he will decide whether u will get hired or not. U fit don do 5 stages of interview and pass , but u won't get employed until u meet him , he sizes u up and takes the hiring decision.

The chat was scheduled for 7pm on a weekday. When I got there, I discovered there were others like me who wanted to join other companies Aig was also the chairman and meeting him was the last stage of their own recruitment process as well.

They started calling people one after the other into Aig's office around to 9 that night. It didn't get to my turn until some minutes to 10pm that night.

The man didn't even look like someone who was ready to go home when I was leaving his office after our chat.

The man had 2 EA's/PA's waiting on him whom were the ones calling candidates one after the other into his office. They had their office close to his.

For weeks after that day , I couldn't stop myself from imagining the kind of mess those guys' personal life will look like. I mean how will they have social life or a healthy family life when they are in the office with their boss as late as 10pm in the evening? I mean what time do they even get to spend with their loved ones?

I'm not surprised this particular job is offering 800k and above because that PA/EA job takes a lot from whoever is doing it, perhaps the good pay will be some kind of respite for such person sha .

The answer is the bolded.

Shared responsibilities, alternating timelines and rotation solves the problem.

Not out of place to even have more than 2 depending on how busy the individual especially if cost isnt a problem

Just catching up on the story of Burna and the wh0re.

My own two bit is - apparently, she no sweet enough, otherwise the guy wouldn't have been having some buyer's remorse.

I mean, if ure gonna price that high, You should at least have some impressive skills to boot and not rely on some old potbellied decrepit politician who probably need just some small petting to ease off.

Also the part where she's posting the purchase with that caption makes me agree with the earlier caption saying she's only projecting for larger clientele and of course - to show off to her fellow tarts and whoremongers.

Ibime:
Spoken like a true Social Sciences student. Try this one for Maths or Science and sorry will be your name. It does work for social sciences though, I used it for my economics modules which was 1/4 of my course

GloriousGbola:
At least her name and her video are out in the open.

Any guy who wants to go for it knows the chick is cray from the get go.

"The UNIZIK lady that fought her lecturer was my ex, and it is because of her character we are no longer dating" - Alleged ex-boyfriend reveals
pic.twitter.com/3PDl9iGTJy

— YabaLeftOnline (@yabaleftonline) February 14, 2025

An alleged ex actually posted this.

GloriousGbola:
so i just watched the video

there are multiple problems with his test

first is a complaint i have about most chinko/chinesium products

we dont know how long the generator is actually supposed to run on a litre of fuel

a proper generator will come with a manual thats says runtime per litre

but most products sold in nigeria are gray market and made specifically for the third world so this information is not available.

also, as NNPC has pointed out - they are getting their fuel from dangote as well

so you cannot tell if it is not the same fuel used in both cases - unless you test it in a lab.

in addition

he did not perform the tests in a scientific manner

he used the same type of bottle with no marking
he used the same generator with no marking
he did not show a video of the complete test run

ie ideally he should have had stickers on each bottle. stickers on each gen.
a timed video from pouring the fuel to running each generator.
if he was actually going for unimpeachable evidence

unless he actually has a full length video that was cut for the purpose of uploading

this video really says nothing.

you can make a video like this
this is trust me bro, i no fit lie to you.

Also should have swapped both generators for a second test just to validate

LordAdam16:
All of this is public knowledge.

Did she or did she not reject $80m?

Anyone who has kept tabs on Elon Musk's trajectory would know that 2008 was easily his worst year ever.
SpaceX and Tesla were on their last legs. He needed NASA and Daimler to offer lifelines that saved both companies from bankruptcy.

Yet, he offered her 80m.
His cut from the PayPal sale was $180m.
He sunk more than $110m into Tesla and SpaceX.
They were still private in 2008 so he was cash poor. Had only about $30m in the bank according to some reports.

You keep meandering to avoid accepting you are flat-out wrong.

Heck, Tallulah, his second wife, whom he divorced twice said he's the "perfect ex-husband", he still takes care of her, and she's open to marrying him a third time. Her words; not mine. She didn't have a kid for him.

Next time, do a double take of the details before pushing untrue narratives.

-Lord

You no dey ever rest. No be you again. Until you sink

You say he was generous with her and offered her 80m, yet she rejected it and wanted more.

He was cash poor, pray tell, since when do divorce settlements involve only cash. Maybe check out the Nicole Shanahan's (you keep mentioning) divorce example while at it.

You keep mentioning Tallulah but forget that she's always been an agreeable person (taking care of his 5 external kids at the time) and on both occasions it was Elon who filed for the divorce. Of course he's gonna treat her well, seeing as they have a good relationship

I really shouldn't continue this argument, it's becoming tasteless and we both look like gossip girls

Android17:
Part of what I was agreeing with is the child support part. I don't think Elon has had any issues with that at all. I could be wrong o! But from the little I know, it has never been an issue with him.

The man doesn't come off like he even likes money. He was sending $45m/month to Trump's campaign team apparently for months before he ever declared support for him. He also gave Nigel Farrage $100m just because he hates the gay-got UK PM.

oh yes. he's a spendthrift when his interest aligns or when he wants to be spiteful,

The kind that would spend millions in legal fees just to avoid payout of thousands of dollars. Dont see any woman getting the best of him in terms of alimony payments except he wants to

Android17:
I agree with this.

I don't know if Ashley revealed it because she was scorned Elon was with someone else during Valentine's day or if the press had wind of it and were going to leak it. Either ways, I wonder why it will be a scandal if the babies are IVF.

Which I doubt they are. I think EM is also kpanshing that Tiffany Fong. I suspected his moves with both Ashley and Tiffany based on his interactions with them on X.

Amebo life no good o!

But of course he would have a string of harems. All of that is to be expected for a wealthy and famous man like Musk.

But given that all his known kids are test tube babies, there would have to be a deliberate effort on his part, which is what I was alluding to earlier. Not like the other trap queens who get with these guys deliberately just to get knocked up

LordAdam16:
He isn't miserly in these matters.

I took issue with your assertion that Ashley would get the short end of the stick, because according to you he tried to weasel out of paying child support to his "babymamas".

There is no evidence of that.

He is not going to hand over Tesla, SpaceX, or xAI shares to every skirt that gives him a kid.
But they're certainly going to be more than alright.

Justine. Grimes. Shivon. All are fine.
They're all also independently accomplished. Justine an author. Grimes an artiste. Shivon a tech exec.
Justine didn't even take the $80m divorce settlement he offered in 2008.
Grimes custody dispute was about her moving to California with the kids for obvious personal and professional reasons after their split (Musk was the only reason she moved to Texas in the first place). Musk did not want the kids to be domiciled in California because of his painful experience with Vivian. They eventually came to an agreement.
Shivon moved into the Texas estate.

You clearly have been misinformed.

-Lord

Again, You dont know what you're talking about.

Are you aware that there was a postnuptial agreement which the bolded violated or you think she just rejected it.

Lets just agree to disagree mate

LordAdam16:
A man builds a commune for all his kids and their moms on a "you might not want it, but it's there if you change your mind", and you're talking about "not wanting to pay" or "not even remotely part of his plans".

A decade ago, his CS payments to Justine Musk was $20K per month.
He has 4 BMs.
Justine. Shivon. Grimes. Ashley.
Grimes is the only one who started a custody dispute.
A custody dispute that has since concluded. They'd been living in Texas but Grimes wanted to move residency to California for personal reasons. After the case ended, they looked for a home in California for her and two of the kids they share. X is almost always with Musk.

Your narrative that a guy worth $380B is penny pinching with his kids and BMs is hilarious.
Musk started a school for his kids and kids of SpaceX employees. Ad Astra. The successor is Astra Nova.
He counter filed in Texas against Grimes because he did the progressive, supportive "live and let live/different parenting styles" thing with Justine and one of the kids transitioned. Grimes make Justine seem like Mother Theresa.

Let's just say Ashley will be more than okay.
Just as Justine, Grimes, and Shivon are doing okay.

-Lord

This guy and his typical long verbose without substance.

Where did I say or imply the bolded?, If anything, I'm clearly stating the opposite.

You started by implying Elon was behaving like a typical African with plenty BM and I responded by saying No, he was only creating test tube babies just to get different iterations of himself; which is why I mentioned the IVF thing which all his (known) children are a product of.

The Baby mama's as you call them are just pawns in his pronatalist plans and all that dreamy mansions and what not would only happen as a by product of his experiments not cos they cleverly planted themselves there.

Also he's well known for being shrewd in these sort of matters, but of course, maybe they get lucky? who knows?

LordAdam16:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/29/business/elon-musk-children-compound.html

News broke that Elon bought an estate in Texas for his 11 kids and their moms last year.
He'll likely add a mansion for the new BM.

-Lord

The same baby mama's who keep accusing him of not wanting to pay child support while he keeps filing child custody petition in Texas - for obvious reasons.

The guy just wants plenty kids, explains why most if not all of them were conceived through IVF, including this new one. Guy wey dey run experiment - picks women who are smart/in art and creative fields and pops out different iterations of himself.

Those women or baby mama as you call them are not even remotely part of his plans

LordAdam16:
Elon Musk is truly an African-American.
Kid #13.
4th BM.

His estate in Texas will get bigger.
Mansions for each BM.
Move in whenever you're ready.

-Lord

Dey play.

He's not even that generous. Plus Texas law protects him in events like this.

She may have miscalculated and na conservative sef

Ibime:
Question for the house

Would you recommend an auditor going to work for an oil company (indigenous) for N500k or staying with a Financial Services company for N700k

The auditor in question already has experience in manufacturing and financial services sector and I'm inclined to think he should open up his options in the oil industry as the ceiling is much higher.

I'll be contrarian and say the bolded is the better option if the person is the ambitious type and has a long term play

Most finance professionals within the FSI space usually have it easier and could easily cross carpet to other industries. Not so for O&G as it's quite specialized

Also what ceiling is higher?. Those guys hardly promote as there's not much space at the top since people hardly leave, and especially for someone whose role is non - operational

Anyway this is me speaking from a general finance perspective and not audit, maybe things are different down there for an auditor

Have to be honest A40, Android17 has really solid and compelling arguments.

I just dey dash the guy likes dey go

GloriousGbola:
when i was leaving secondary school, i stole someone's textbook and carried it home. i had no need to do so - i just did for whatever reason.

years later there was a period when i was having some academic challenges and the owner of the book appeared in a dream.

my take on your post - your mum placed the travails on things she subconsciously felt guilt about .

as an aside read up mentalism

which involved 'reading' people. con men, prophets, prophetesses use this when they tell people their family members are behind their travails. thye know what you are suggestible towards and they prey on that. if your fam was slightly different - this may have been pinned on a member or even your wife

as I get older, i have come to expect that life is in cycles. Good times and bad times.

i went through a series of unfortunate events in 2012 -13 . (that was my way of describing what happened) that was the year i had the encounter with the robbers. i was also in an accident which i came out of unscathed. and some other issues.

just sayin'

Good post especially the bolded.

Even economies too, have their phases

Ibime:
He must be a wicked man to make 2 of his grandchildren run mad because of burial

Easier explanation is there's a family history of mental illness.

These sort of things can be hereditary

Ibime:
You done carry talk enter another thing wey no even factor for my mind

Spray that corny line to 100 Instagram babes whilst you get 1.3m followers, make I see whether you no go get 50% hit rate

I dey give you free game here

50% hit rate at what cost?. See as just one don cast am.

22 year old wey suppose dey train and focus on getting better dey spam baddies with corny lines.
Me I no kuku send am, the earlier we do away with him and sell him the better

Nothing wey Ibime no go defend once e don like player.

Person no sabi play, no get game plus wack lines. Why he no dey spray like that for field make we see the effort.

No wonder he puts up a poor show in training, See shitty wack corny lines

LordAdam16:
Exceptional iterative progress on a budget is China's specialty.

The market is puking this morning. NVIDIA is down 10%. The equivalent of Nigeria's GDP erased.

Wall Street and Silicon Valley are stunned by DeepSeek.
There is "surprise, but was always a possibility" and there's "WTF just happened. How?"
It's the latter in the US. And I think that's more about the Americans having a poor read of the AI race than China having a "Sputnik" moment.

-Lord

This one - I'm particularly pleased with as i called it sometime late last year/early this year. An inflection point was bound to happen sooner rather than later.

All them bogus expensive data centers and GPU's now need to deliver value for money. Classic disruption model

swiz123:
He has been making really funny jokes about Brest. He once said "I like the shape of them" with his funny scouse accent. When Kate jokingly asked him if brest can get exposed in tonight's game, he responded " I hope so".

Funny enough, I actually thought Jamie was quite hilarious and more quick witted in relation to the whole Brest commentary.

Think it's just a matter of perspective

Ibime:
So 8 exams left? 4 skills and 4 finals?

Please get in touch with me by DM, let's discuss further.

Interesting.

is ICAN your thing in the UK? , or is there now an affiliation with ACCA?

Ibime:
So you forgot the part where you called him elite and World Class and would be a KDB level fumble. Now you're left him to Arsenal fans, no longer a fumble. TT did the only thing he could which is what I recommended, play him as a striker, not what you recommended (drop Mount and play him as a 10). Lampard was already playing him as an 8. A 10 who can't play 8 is already a poor 10.

A one-footed player that couldn't turn in midfield, constantly misplaced simple passes and touches, could not press in tandem with midfield partners, could not request the ball in tight spaces, yet you were gaslighting us that he's world class as if we are blind. Nah, Ogun must fire you for that ⚡⚡⚡

Rest. You no get talk.

The KDB fumble comment was during Lampard era where he was dropped for a while and there were stories of him being offloaded.

How does that relate to Arsenal who bought him 2.5 years later. I'm sure you knew that already, you just dey find agenda. Arsenal fans will be in a better position to indulge you, as long as you do the same on Mount with Manure fans - as you call them