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I knew Americans made a mistake the day they voted in Trump because I knew him from his books to be a wall street shark dictator who is only interested in winning at all cost, a president should be a humanitarian not a competitive tyrant and as for those who blindly supports him here if you are in America you won't vote him too after what he did during the start of covid 19 in America, many Americans died because he couldn't care less, FYI he is just using the same tactics he uses to win boardroom politics now, he said so in his books, people eventually give in to him when he roughen things up and shake them up, let's see if he will have his way now

beautyhd:
I hope someone is not been framed or wrongly accused.

Sending some incriminating messages to the groom is the cause of the accusations.

Hope they know that two persons can eat from one plate and one will suffer food poisoning and the other will not.

Thank God the bride is getting better.

Did you not read where she said the wedding planner came clean after the police got involved meaning she confessed?

bluefilm:
You'd preferred he died in your pussy, right?

You are mad

Daninya33:
Believe it or not

There are 3 main ways,the metaphysical world and beings have access to any mortal man irrespective of his creed and color.

1.Covenants

2. Ignorance

3. Disobedience


Effectively handle these and set yourself permanently free.

You are so right, but many of these things could have been violated on your behalf without your knowledge and you start paying for it unless you get the attention and help of heavenly God himself
A covenant could have been made on your behalf by reason if circumstances of your birth or environment, you can be ignorant because nobody taught you or nobody knows the root of your problems and it can take years seeking knowledge of the issue besetting you,
You can be in disobedience because its part of your culture or upbringing and unless you realise you are breaking spiritual laws, you continue to disobey, all these lead to searching and seeking which is what he is doing, but he needs God Himself not Gods go in between, Islam offers that if you are committed, you will go from being afflicted to totally free in one day if only he can attend a mosque and pray regularly bowing down to God having gotten rid of every fetish things

tobestdegreat:
In a country where everything is working in favour of her citizen religion and dabolical beliefs becomes absent

The questio we failed to ask our selfs is
Why are we christains Muslims or traditionalists

Let me answer this question, first we are Christians, Muslim and traditionalist because the devil is very much into our affairs as black men and many of us following all the rules and laws of prosperity and listening to hundreds of motivational speakers with nothing to show for it realise we have an invisible opponent which can only be controlled through invisible means, that is why even in developed countries black have the worst statistics, more black in jail, more black in crime, more black die of corona virus etc.
Secondly, our country and government are unfavourable because of this same challenge of devil being attracted so much to the black man affair, what better way to fulfil its ministry of kill steal and destroy than to start from the top where it will affect everybody, bad road, bad electricity etc, so each citizen go spiritual to employ a high power to combat the effect of devils on their affair, enough said

Come and try Islam just for a year and be totally committed, I was in your shoe but I didn't try black power because I know God exist but its just that Christianity seems not to be able to solve spiritual problem permanently, it seems to tolerate the devil and its agents because of grace, the same grace that covers you cover the powers afflicting you,they are preserved in case they may repent, devils attend church service regularly because Christianity is actually meant for them, perhaps they will repent, and they continue to kill steal and destroy whereas in Islam you go directly to God where evil is not tolerated and when I say evil I mean the devil and all it's agents, they cannot stand before God, only old testament gives an idea of what Islam is like if you are a Bible reader, check my profile for my conversion story, I was a Christian minister for twenty years and now in Islam for four years, every idol power, spirit husband, familiar spirit, witchcraft power etc troubling me disappeared, alhamdulilahi

ContractKiller:
I beg your pardon, Christians do not worship whatever filthy creature you MOOSLIMS worship

The God of the Bible NEVER promised King David more wives unlike one "prophet" Sex Award Winner (SAW) whose god was asking women to sleep with him

In fact in Deuteronomy 17:17 the Christian God warned David and all the other Kings of Israel against marrying many wives:

"The king must not take many wives for himself, because they will turn his heart away from the LORD."

Don't you EVER say we worship the same god again.

Your know what, you are not God neither can you dictate to Him who worships Him or not, your ignorance and anger doesn't move God nor me, please don't mention me again, I'm too busy for your trash

ContractKiller:
I mentioned Igbos to show the fallacy of your arguments. Whether you are aware of it or not, Igbos do indeed practice circumcision on the 8th day.

And who said that the private life of "prophet" muhammad is not included in the koran? What is the meaning of Quran 33:50 if it was not revealed to quench the "prophet's" libido?

"O prophet! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war, and the daughters of thine uncle on the father's side and the daughters of thine aunts on the father's side, and the daughters of thine uncle on the mother's side and the daughters of thine aunts on the mother's side who emigrated with thee, and any believing woman if she offers herself to the Prophet, and the Prophet wishes to marry her; a privilege for you only.. "


What kind of "prophet" needs divine revelation to show the wide category of women he can have sex with? What kind of "prophet" needs to have women give themselves to him?

Your argument is baseless, the entire Quran are direct instruction from God to prophet Muhammed (s.a.w) , even a kindergarten pupil will know that what you quoted up there are instruction being given to someone,
You need to familiarise yourself with the God of the bible because the same God that told king David if he wanted more wives He (God) would give him is the same God speaking up there, instead of dabbling into the Quran of which you know nothing about why don't you study your Bible especially Gods direct words and instructions, the God that everyone will eventually give account to, study His character, then you stand to know where the Quran is coming from,

ContractKiller:
Igbos also practice male circumcision on the 8th day. Does that mean that they have cultural contact with Arabs or Jews as well? And respect for parents and elders is almost universal in all cultures.

Africans just have an inferiority complex which makes them want to forcefully attach themselves to any culture that doesn't reckon with them.

As for rejection of Hadith, I hope you know that such rejection is haram and you can even be killed for choosing your personal revelations over that of your prophet?

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You just have to bring Igbo into the discussion because everything must be about Igbo, you people hide your children inside the house for three month without any form of christening or naming for three months, everyone knows that,
As for the hadith, you are not to teach me about that because you are not the muslin here, I am, FYI, many many hadith's have been rejected by the Islamic world when found not reasonable or unacceptable, Islam is not like Christianity where private lives of biblical people and their personal opinions are included in the bible, the Quran contains only the word of God, hadith's are collections of write up about lifestyle and activities of the prophet Muhammed (s.a.w) and it is believed that errors could have been introduced as it was compiled by people, so many were thrown out, get your facts right,

Indelibleword:
Sebi you left Christianity and no one is cursing or calling for your death, try leaving Islam and see whether fatwa will not be declared on your head. Keep your religious convictions to yourself if it is pleasant enough for you showcase it to others, do it without disparaging others, invite them without condemning who they are.

As for language references you kept insisting on. Languages are share through trading. Yoruba's are known for cross cultural trading, they have contacts with Arab traders and imbibe some of their languages. Another way that Arabic was imported into Yoruba is by indirect contact through trading with Hausas who had been conquered by the jihadist. Be objective in presenting matters.

We have historical Yoruba books well documented that Yoruba's came from mecca area, you cannot rewrite history because you wish so,
Also I have read the Quran through and it doesn't say much different from what God said in the Bible to the Israelite, in fact its mild, I'm Yoruba and being enlighten makes us know that the era of commerce by war is long gone and wanton killing is not allowed, I have family and friends that are Christian and I love them, I just gave an explanation of why the north should be rich to enlighten some folk here after all Quran says we can marry Christians and eat with them, Quran recognised Christianity and any terrorist does not represent Islam, sultan of sokoto said this terrorist used to kill without calling the name of God in the past but in order to get more attention they recently started using Gods name, to implicate religious war, they are just a product of the society that neglects its children who grow up bitter, whatever the case may be I'm happy I'm a muslim

ContractKiller:
You say that Yorubas are are not Arabs, but at the same time, you say that wars drove many tribes into Africa.
Unless you are trying to claim that Yorubas are an Arab tribe which was driven into Africa by war, that statement doesn't make any sense at all.

You can practice any religion you want and nobody has the right to disturb you, unless you practice a religion that specializes in the abduction and forced conversion of little girls like the Chibok girls and Leah Sharibu.

Your right to practice your religion ends where my right to practice mine begins.

As for the Hadith, the women your prophet was referring to were muslimahs, not pagans, Jews or Christians.

In fact I'm surprised you overlooked the deeper implications of that Hadith. If you read it more carefully and understand what it is saying, it actually destroys whatever credibility your prophet has as a prophet.

A tribe can already have a religion either because of proximity to a populace practicing such religion or through conversion, the British that brought Christianity here were not Jews yet they took Christianity all over the world, is it a coincidence that Yoruba already have many culture which tally with Gods instruction in bible and Qur'an such as naming on eight day, respect for parents and elders, etc
As for that hadith's, it holds nothing for me because I'm not blind, I have the rare gift of divine leading and revelation, I'm not just practicing Islam without having any encounter or proof of its authenticity, I know what I used to see and experience in Christianity and what I see and experience daily now, the difference is clear,

Indelibleword:
Basically, you do not understand what it means to be brainwashed. That you tried another thing apart from what you know of does not exempt you from being brainwashed. Whatever situation that forced you to recant your faith in Christ as the LORD and Saviour is personal to you and I respect that privacy. But trying to force your views on others, is what is worrisome. That you left Christianity for Islam is your choice, must you now begin to condemn Christianity to shine in your new faith? Must you disparage Christianity to be strong in your new found faith? If you fail to have peace when you were a Christian that is subjective to you. Billions of others found rest when they came to Christ according Matt 11:28-30. I am a living testimony, I have personally received salvation, joy, peace, healing, freedom and favour from Christ. Witches and wizard is never a problem to me because He that is in me is greater than He that is in the world. Every moment of my life I'm seeing God's Word comes to pass in my life which is also the experience of billions of others.

So if one brother who has enjoyed same as me invites others to do same without vituperating on any other person's religion, is it a crime? He only invites others he did not disparage anyone. Your misinformation is what prompted my response to you initially. Islam too did not originate with Yorubas, did you care to find out how Islam spread and is still spreading in Nigeria? At least we know how Christianity spread and is still spreading.

Far be it from me to force my view on others, that is the jurisdiction of Christians not Islam, I aired my view like every other person on this thread before being called out by your likes, as for you finding rest in Christianity, I say congratulation because you are one in a million, go to prayer city and see your pastors and ministers doing deliverance upon deliverance, visit all the prayer mountains all over Nigeria and see how the devil have made a mince meat of peoples destiny, its in Christianity that you hear about inherited curses, ancestral idol, familiar spirit, water spirit, etc, which refused to leave their victims despite many dedication after rededication, deliverance after deliverance because its through holiness that you can have lasting deliverance and this is grossly lacking in Christianity because the law of God cannot be broken, first commandment, thou shall serve no other god beside me, grace has a price, nothing is totally free, if you are not white or very fair its very risky to be a Christian in my opinion because the devil naturally thrive better near a black body than a white one, no wonder more blacks are dying of covid 19 in the US, the black American living like white committing various sins and ignoring God not knowing their skin colour makes them need holiness, statistics show that the darker you are the more likely you die of covid 19, starting from Indians to all the other coloured tribe to black which is the highest percentage, I deal on facts and I have many of them, google is your friend, check my profile for my conversion story, meanwhile not having an open mind to another belief because of the one you already hold is being brainwashed, you have nothing to compare your Christianity with while I have 20 yes of Christianity and now 4 years of islam

ContractKiller:
Languages usually borrow words from each other. That doesn't mean or imply a common origin.
Yorubas are black Africans not Arabs. I have actually met Lebanese and Syrians who mock black people that identify as Arabs. They think of you as fools. Go to Dearborn Michigan and see how Arabs are killing innocent blacks.
As for you being a woman in Islam, congratulations.
You have a lot to look forward to in the world to come.

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I didn't say Yoruba's are Arabs, go deeper in history and read how war drove many tribe into Africa, we don't have to be Arabs to be Muslims, as for what some people somewhere think it doesn't matter because in Islam we serve God not people and the fact that some people are not Jews hasn't disqualify them from being Christian.
As for your hadith's quotation, it didn't say Muslim women now, FYI, no true muslin will go to hell unless you are not following the laid down tenets, bowing to God has put us in the category of shedrach, meshak and abednigo, its all God wants, serve Him without go in between everything else is small, not I can't serve God without going through another route, challenge yourself and practice Islam for three months, then review your findings,

Indelibleword:
Your brainwashing is legendary, no need to enter any debate with you.

I understand, I was there too, I couldn't believe any good could come out of Islam and I fought it before finally trying it and I found holiness, just realise that you have only one side of the coin while I'm speaking experience of the two sides, not allowing any other idea or possibility because of one ingrained knowledge is brainwashing which is what you have, the pastors made sure of that, the holy spirit (Ruh Allah) help me to overcome that through several revelations, Alhamdulilahi I'm a muslim

ZorGBUooeh:
U must be an almajiris daughter..ur comment deserves the dumbest 2020 comment on this forum.

why are u scared of forming a pure,holy righteous islamic country without igbos.Abi most igbos stay with u guys.？
Form ur pure,holy, nation without the pagan,unholy igbos and stop exibiting hypocricy.

The joke is on you, you guys are the one hankering after forming nation, I know my wellbeing is not dependent on the nation I live but on God because prosperity comes neither from the north or south but from above, I'm just trying to offer you an explanation for your exasperation over the northerners prosperity, I'm prepariñg you guys for what is bound to happen if Jesus taries, Islam say Jesus is coming by the way, before you start getting me confused, I remain a Muslim, and I'm proudly Yoruba

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Indelibleword:
That is your choice which you will be accountable for before your maker. I wonder what type of Christian minister you were before switching loyalty. Point of correction, Islam is not widespread in Yorubaland before colonial era, any area you see Islam predominance in southwest is a conquered land that described the path the Fulani jihadist took in pursuing their ambition of dipping Quran in Atlantic. Check your history again.

You are the one to check history Mr ignoramus, Yoruba had sharia court even before colonisation and the so called Fulani jihadist, many of our language word are found in Arabic and our very foundation says we originated from mecca, you have never been a Muslim so you have nothing to compare or proof your claims against Islam, I'm sure I was a better Christian than you are now, the holy spirit led me to Islam because of mercy , if I had failed in the wilderness of Christianity I will still be there roaming around but God tool me to where I can finally make a way in life because heaven saw my dedication and obedience, stay in your ignorance

The Igbo's are the most ignorant and clueless tribe in this nation, they live in denials and even tell themselves lies that suit them about other tribes because they cannot accept the reality about other tribes, they believe its only their way or no way, their very low self esteem cannot accept that God can bless others, FYI, Islam alone in the north is enough to make the north stupendously wealthy, its the reason they are still holding power in this country because Islam is pure holiness, you always win when you have God not trying to have God like the Christians, by the time the northerners add education to islam they will be unstoppable, I was a Christian minister for years before being led to Islam, all those things that make you fail in life like witches, wizards, familiar spirit, idol power, spirit husband or wife, water spirit, etc that the Christians battle daily don't exist in Islam, they disappear once you practice Islam rightly, if a Muslim still have such issue tell him or her to frequent congregation prayer in mosque and do his prayer very well, they will disappear, Yoruba's were predominantly muslins and traditionalist before colonisation, education alone cannot give you wealth or power, the pastors without having any proof or experience about Islam have written off Islam with negative preaching everyday, and because of insurgency many people hate Islam not knowing that the devil will do anything to discourage people from being free from him, obasanjo built one of the most beautiful mosque in Nigeria even though he has PhD in Christian theology, he knows the truth as many elites in this country knows the truth, all the good things will just be going to the north automatically because they have holiness, they will get better and greater as they get more enlighten and anybody that practice Islam correctly, so Igbo's prepare to be shocked more and more, truth, before you reply me with your classic insult, put your brain to use a little and meditate on what I wrote, peacr

Envy much? Accept others progress, your own will come

AhoadaRivers:
They are actually more smarter than the yoruba who claim to be educated. Afterall they both fought the 'oil war' against Biafra together, how come yorubas are not getting more of the 'oil wealth' since they claim to be intelligent and educated when time came to share the spoil.

yorubas got the short end of the stick if you ask me. They should be ones in these pictures enjoying since they claim to be 'more intelligent and won the oil war against Biafra' but unfortunately they have been relegated to chasing after agege bread vans due to covid hunger.

You just feel like mouthing off without thinking, by the time they do a line up of the rich and affluent in this country you will see many Yoruba topping the list, because we don't know how to brag and chest beat like you doesn't mean we are not weighty, but you and your likes love to deceive yourself because you can't accept or stand Yoruba progress, but its rather late for you because all your denials and fabricated stories can not stop us

Don't go blindly into marriage, seek the face of God in prayer before settling with anyone, if you can't get divine leading by yourself, seek out good prophets of God who will prayerfully lead you to the right person, I know someone who divorced his wife because she cheated on him, his mother was not in support, she told us that girl is the perfect wife for her son from all her spiritual enquiry and her son will make it easily in life with the woman in his house, she blamed her son for not taking care of the woman enough which pushed her into adultery, this is also true because the husband and wife are my neighbours, the guy prefer to spend his money on women outside than to give his wife, he sha later pursued the woman and almost immediately things change drastically for him, he started living in poverty, indebted and he lost everything, he now treks around after losing his car to armed robber, all his businesses closed down, he is now begging the woman to come back but her parents refused

Tmb78:
Before you engage anybody here,make sure you go through their past posts.
The one you have been sparring with is a very disturbed and unrepentant Igbo bigot.
He is not worth your time.
Even a dullard knows Funke said that to avoid unnecessary rivalry, something these people thrive on.she is truly an omoluabi.
She is allowing her works speak for her.

Thanks,

YeribanzavsAfon:
Shut up your stinking mouth!


Your Funke is a Local champion that is not known outside Nigeria and that's a painful fact you and your cohorts refuse to align with but the truth will always remain so. The Nollywood you people have all flooded in nowadays was made Lucrative by the IGBOS, the Igbos kept churning out movie after movie on CDS that flooded the African market to the extent that it ranked number 2 in movie production quantity after Bollywood, that alone created an enormous fan base for Nollywood all over Africa and beyond, and who made it possible?, they are Genevieve, Pete Edochie, Aki and Pawpaw, Rita Dominic, Jim Iyke, Ramsey Noah, Pat Attah, IBU, Patience Ozokwo, Osuofia. There is no place for the Yoruba in Nollywood except your backward Mgbati Mgbati movies, now that ours actors are house hold names all over the world you people are here on Nairaland disturbing us with useless comparisons.

Yada yada yada, suit yourself

IJEYdiamond:
Seriously you are sick...... hatred in soul... some persons need to visit yaba left...!!

Please please I will implore you and other Yoruba's on this platform, let's stop entertaining these people, their mentality clearly separate us from them, we don't think the same or view life same way, they are still at that low life hunter gatherer evolution stage in their mind and you will see them display various base primitive instincts characteristics of inferior mind set, just recognize them for who they are and let them not get to you

YeribanzavsAfon:
My friend keep quiet and don't bamboozle me with that snake like subtilty it won't work. You say I have hate and venom bla bla bla yet you are here telling me it would take 100 years for Igbos to develop like the Yorubas, which Yoruba's and wgivh development are you talking about biiko abeg go and sit down.

Please you cowards are in no position to talk about mental, psychological and emotional strength to the Igbos, we are brave enough to fight civil war with the rest of the country and were mentally strong enough to hold it off for 3 whole years so we are your gods in all ramifications, take the education you Yoruba used as your strong hold for instance, it has been dismantled we Igbos, or you think success is synonymous to bullion van looting or creating 60 bank accounts for looting!??


Your Funke is a Local champion that is not known outside Nigeria and that's a painful fact you and your cohorts refuse to align with but the truth will always remain so. The Nollywood you people have all flooded in nowadays was made Lucrative by the IGBOS, the Igbos kept churning out movie after movie on CDS that flooded the African market to the extent that it ranked number 2 in movie production quantity after Bollywood, that alone created an enormous fan base for Nollywood all over Africa and beyond, and who made it possible?, they are Genevieve, Pete Edochie, Aki and Pawpaw, Rita Dominic, Jim Iyke, Ramsey Noah, Pat Attah, IBU, Patience Ozokwo, Osuofia. There is no place for the Yoruba in Nollywood except your backward Mgbati Mgbati movies, now that ours actors are house hold names all over the world you people are here on Nairaland disturbing us with useless comparisons.


And on the issue of development sorry Igbos developed the same Lagos y'all brag with today so we are visionary more than you, that's why an Igbo adage says that what an elder sees sitted a child can't even from the mountain top. Where we sit Yoruba's are not qualified to stand. Develop your Shithole Osun, Ondo and Ekiti first before we take you serious, look at how the once backward Ebonyi is leaving your states behind rapidly yet a human kidney eater like you is talking about who's underdeveloped and who's not.

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You just confirmed your lower mind development status once again, anyone in a normal psychological state can see the one who needs a shrink from your write up, you just don't get it, do you? give it time

YeribanzavsAfon:
You shut the fucck up and stop dropping annoying comments here. That's the same way you Yoruba fools were comparing Sinach with some local Tope Alabi. You Yoruba don't have respect at all, imagine comparing local Funke to Global brand Genevieve. When Genevieve was brand ambassador if Range Rover many years ago your Funke was not even getting a waka pass role. If you want to blow your actress Funke don't blow her on the back of Genevieve it won't work. Where Genevieve is internationally I don't think Funke can get to that level till she dies idiot!

See the venom, the hatred you are spitting because of issue that will not take you anywhere, it will take at least a hundred year for your likes to develop psychologically and emotionally to the level Yoruba's are now, we are not actually on the same plain mentally when you compare some Igbo to Yoruba, you are too underdeveloped in every way, its even shocking to see your reactions everyday all over the internet and everywhere, Funke just use a superior mindset to score a huge point you think she concede defeat, you have a long way to go

This is typical Yoruba confident secured self esteem, I'm surprised that many people here don't understand the psychology behind her answer, you understate your achievement, while you do great things under, ogede to foripamo lon pon, its the plantain that hide its head that get ripe quicly, if only some people will see the wisdom in this instead they thought Funke just accept defeat, wisdom is profitable

2cul2care:
When I see some peoples comment on this border closure of a thing it makes me wonder, those of you supporting the border closure, do u really think any nation can survive on its own, without the help of other nations, no nation is self sufficient, even AMERICA WORLD POWER can't survive on its own without help from other nations.

The same way goods are being imported into NIGERIA is the same way we also export goods to other nations, so when we are unable to export our own products aren't we loosing too.

If Buhari claims he closed the border because of smuggling then my question is, the custom officers at the border what exactly are they doing, are they there to fry Akara, if our customs do their job their will be no case of smuggling.

Buttom line is our president and the goverment in general doesn't give a damn about us, if u don't already know that by now, I really don't know what to say to u.

Just imagine Lai Mohammed wants to borrow $500m to upgrade NTA a channel nobody watches anymore, a channel that has stopped being relevant since the 90's, with all our debts they still want to plunge the country into more debt and worsen the economic situation.

[b][/b]SERIOUSLY DO THE MATH, AND REASON FOR YOURSELF

China closed its border for forty years and by the time they opened it they were already developed, it took decades to destroy Nigeria economy by flooding our market with foreign goods while our own goods were abandoned leading to massive unemployment and lack of innovation leading to backwardness, it will therefore take a while to see the benefit of the border closure and not a few months,
Its not the import and export that is the problem but import exceeding export resulting in a consumer economy, we go to schools and cone back to joblessness while we give jobs to youths of other countries massively by consuming only foreign goods, how many years do you think it will take to revive Bata shoe company and Aba textile mill which are some of the victims of foreign goods importation, meanwhile if you watch nta like I do and most elites in Nigeria must do to be in the know you will see many testimony and evidence of the border closure.
Lack of education is the reason people are still questioning the essence of the border closure,