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Kobojunkie:
You don't make God's Truth up for yourself. You either abide by what He says or bust..

If I have ever made up anything I wrote about the spiritual anywhere in this Nairaland may the curses of God follow me but if I have always write the truth according to my experience and you call me a liar may the curses of God locate you and never depart from you. Amen

SUPOL:
Unrealistic Course, Nigeria Cannot divide, Its too late already. It would have been easier during Ojukwu era, but he made a costly mistake trusting a Westerner Late LT Col Victor Banjo

You people keep chanting lies from your generations to your generation, rearing children of hate. History is replete with facts of how ojukwu rejected separation of the tribes right from inception until oil was discovered then he changed his song. When Yoruba and hausa realised the oil was of high commercial quantity, they also changed their mind too. Now all this your hatred and pains can only be justified if you would have gone ahead with separation after discovering oil in commercial quantity if you were in yoruba shoe then, especially when the oil not on your land per se. Where we are today is primarily caused by igbo greed because the country would have separated even before independence if not for them. Posterity will judge if your anger is justified.

Kobojunkie:
1. God's Truth is that He does not forsake anyone who belongs to Him. So once God binds anyone, that person is bound for life. However only very few experience that sins Jesus Christ made it clear that only a few will find and enter into the Kingdom of God through the narrow gate that leads to God - Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14

2. And those who belong to Him are, not those who say with their mouths that they do, but instead those who continually submit to and obey the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, the Truth of God and Law of the Kingdom of God...they are the ones become Sons of God - These are the only ones who God, who is Holy, installs His Holy Spirit inside of, because through continual submission to and obedience of His Law , they are made holy/perfect in the sight of God. - John 8 vs 31 - 44

3. So your feelings of emptiness has more to do with your mood and state of mind(depression) than it does with the things of God. Those who belong to Him, those who are taught by God Almighty Himself, God never loses and God never leaves - John 6 vs 43 - 45.

Suit your self

I will answer you with my experience, years ago when I was still a christian minister. There was a day the holy spirit used a sister to warn me that someone will visit me but I should not entertain the person, that is I should not allow the person in my house, she didn't mention name but later a very close family member came to visit me, we were jist partner but the person was fetish but I didn't know how deep she had gone satanic, we jisted and played and she left, I soon slept off, in my sleep I dreamt I was standing outside looking up at the sky but I saw it covered in iron and a big iron rod like handle sticking out off it and I was pointing at the sky and shouting, open heaven in Jesus name, but nothing was happening, I woke up and I knew the prophesy had come to pass and I failed, I started crying on my knees and praying, I cried out my heart in a heart break for a long time begging God to forgive me. I later slept and had another dream which I can't remember now but it showed me clearly that I have been pardoned, I woke up rejoicing.

I think God can leave someone if you go into satanism or associate with people in satanic kingdom. You also feel an emptiness in your spirit when the holy spirit vacate. And only when you have a personal relationship with God whereby you keep God in your heart 24/7 and your always follow God's leading in everything, read the word of God regularly and hate evil in every form being careful to please God daily that is when you can have God's presence so heavy that you will know the difference when He leaves. Some peoples thought or anger alone will drive away the spirit of God until next Sunday when they worship and praise.

Yeye oshun does not mean river goddess but river goddess worshipper. River goddess is yemoja

hope4nigeria:
you must be a 419ners

Lol

hope4nigeria:
dey speak nonsense English, that's my opinion

Uninformed opinion from a mediocre

saxha:
If someone follows Quran and verified Hadiths to the letter, he's certainly worshipping Allah, even if he kills accordingly.

The path has already been laid down through the word of Allah (Quran) and His most favored prophet.

You are welcome to your opinion which has no effect whatsoever on God's order of this world and my eternity. You live to troll and hate arguing to score a cheap point on your assumed enemies instead of living to secure your eternity. Continue

hope4nigeria:
unfortunately northern Muslims see other Muslims as infidel.

It is inconsequential what northern Muslim think because they are not God's deputy neither are you, even Saudi Arabia that islam originated from cannot decide if anyone is a Muslim or if anyone is serving God, no human has that privilege. Only God knows and decide who is worshipping Him. Get educated

SegFault:
Just look at the useless comments, if there is a next life and I see myself in Nigeria, I will jump into the Atlantic ocean and swim to greener pastures the sharks can have me for all I care rubbish.

You need to learn to distance yourself from the influence of Nairaland trolls, many of them cannot even manage their own lives talkless of managing a nation or a people. Internet has made everyone "equal" such that even children can talk down to a professor claiming equal intelligence. Their opinions don't matter unless the sensible ones. Know that and know peace

You need to read the book "As A Man Thinketh" or get the audio and listen to it. In the book James Allen the author said a man can be blessed and be a failure while a man can be cursed and be a success by world's standard at least. He said there is nobody who is completely bad and no one who is completely righteous. A righteous man may have some vices which make him fail in life while a wicked man may have virtues that help him to succeed. I think it has to do with the principle of God and the person of God. If you have one and not the other you will suffer the lack of it wherever it is needed. For example a born again brother or an Alfa may be lazy, he only care about eating, he doesn't want to hussle at all. In this case even if he could pray and get some money he will spend all instead of investing. Whereas a club guy in school is a hard worker hustling hard and very ambitious, he will definitely start seeing the results of his hardwork because that's one of the principle of God, it must work all things being equal. A righteous sister may feel so holy that she looks down on any man who is not totally committed to God while her mates are busy getting married to regular guys who drinks and may have side chicks, also if a righteous person doesn't see himself doing big things there is no way he can achieve them because just like the bible say as a man thinketh so is he. Many of those pious people you talk about have relationship with God but have refused to develop their relationship with fellow human being. They judge and hate. Christian hating Muslim, Muslim hating christian, wealth is found in people and when you already ostracized half of the world population in your mind you are on a long thing. A christian sister cannot be a second wife or marry a Muslim, a Muslim sister refuse to marry christian man. If you move close to many of those so called successful wayward school mates you will see their life is not perfect but only in the public. In fact you will uncover many can of worms.
Meanwhile from my own observations those of my mates who were committed to the things of God went ahead and live a successful easy life, and many that I interviewed who seem to be wayward in school and now successful they have a righteous background, a pastor parent, a practicing Muslim home, a christian praying mother, in fact I cannot count how many of them I know. And believe me the beginning does not count, if you just graduated and you see some people shooting out like stars, wait till at least ten years after to make conclusion, the only thing some of these righteous school mates may have may be a quiet peaceful life, no lack, good marriage, good health, happy family and those ones that developed ambition among them will be flying high whereas their wayward counterpart will begin to reap the fruits they planted years ago. Broken marriages, poor health, job loss, wayward children etc because they did not go through the process needed to maintain a good life, The main thing is to have God and practice His principles. In the principle of God every success is sure AND in the person of God you overcome any obstacle life might throw at you and secure your future.

jesusjnr2020:
It's okay.

You have every right to make decisions based on what you thought was right, however when i saw some of your reasons for leaving Christianity, I thought you chickened out and the attacks only stopped because you stopped being a real threat.

I don't mean to be hard on you, but when I think of those women God has used to greater effect and to do greater works, like Kathryn Kulman, Gladys Aylward, etc., what you went through pales in comparison. But God saw them through and the rest as they say is history.

Forgive me for prying, but it's my earnest desire to see women become all that God wants them to be, hence my concerns about you.

I wish you the best though.

God bless.

To Christians I left but to Almighty God I didn't leave because I'm still worshipping Him, in a different way, trust me I had very clear revelations that prompted me to change, it wasn't easy on me but I couldn't ignore what was clear to me, infact I was very sceptical, I didn't trust islamic process and even when I reverted I used to criticize most islamic tenets in my mind but the more I delve into it the more I regret not being a Muslim earlier. Change is a very difficult thing to do having spent decades in the church it wasn't easy and it would have been impossible if not for the clear revelations. I will add a description of some of the revelations that led to my conversation in that thread this week to next week insha Allah. God bless

Tizu:
University of Lagos
- Prostitutes Training Centre

Lies, my alma mater has produced many God fear individuals and moi is one of them

Kobojunkie:
You knew this yet only days ago you were quoting from the book of Levitucus telling a Christian that washing his body and sheets helped in getting answers to prayer, suggesting this was revealed to you, by of all people, the Holy Spirit?

Its like you are a bit slow in understanding, I'm sure many people reading this thread understand me very well. I didn't mean it as a ritual but as cleaning the body from dirt and body odour, even human being will avoid you when you smell not to talk if the holy God. You can go ahead and serve your God with dirty body and environment but if you need more answers ask your pastor why the church and the Alter is always kept clean and beautified.
FYI: when I was still in Rccg mummy GO sent a message to every minister that we must make sure all church branches are clean, she said she saw angels of God who told her that because of children dropping biscuit nylon and other things it's hindering God's move, she sent a message begging all mothers to clean up all their children mess either vomit, urine, nylon etc. They literally begged us that it's very serious because the spirit of God cannot stay in a dirty environment. You can confirm this if you care . I will not respond to you again on this.

jesusjnr2020:
Thanks... but how come?

I saw your thread about your conversion to Islam.

Is that how things stand presently?

Yes, like every true Muslim I know that christianity was originated by God but with a different covenant . Islam says God sent three books the Torah (old testament), the Ingeel(new testament) and the quran and all Muslim are compel to believe in all the books and all the prophets, but God pointed out some errors introduced into the previous books and warned us against them in the Quran. I believe strongly you are a man of God because I'm also praying along that line and I know it takes a heart for God not to only be praying for your needs.

People of low self esteem coming out to dance because they feel they have found another worst than them thus rejoicing in their mental prison and in their phantom victory. You lot are on a long thing, Yoruba has gone further than caveman tribal sentiments where you guys at, every mallam to his kettle ni. But your hatred is noted

Anybody who rejoice at this news is a child of the devil because only a satanic mind will not be moved with compassion for those children, I wish I can help, I'm Yoruba by the way

jesusjnr2020:
You're right about the good things he did in public. They are exemplary. And i had seen him as a Christlike man because of them. And the works also appeared to confirm this. I even made a few posts and threads in his respect with my previous moniker. I even included him among the three preachers that remind me of Jesus the most. If you knew me well, you'd realize that am not someone that's driv upen by the opinion of men, so whatever they were saying against him did not suffice to change my view about him.

I had been praying for the destruction of all human body parts markets in the nation since early this year, after my friend found himself in the midst of them in Jankara, Lekki area of Lagos.

Days before his death, I had a 3-day dry fast (June 1-3) and asked God if I should stop praying for that because after I started, I had numerous setbacks, so maybe it was too heavy for me to bear alone but God told the cleansing of the land (Nigeria) had commenced. No long after I broke my fast, God used a video of Benson Idahosa where he spoke of how God used him to end human sacrifices in Benin City to show me that with Him nothing is impossible.

The next day TB Joshua died, and I couldn't connect it to my prayers until days later when I saw myself in his church in a dream, and destroyed four beings that looked like demons there. I'm not going to go further on that here.

You are aware of the building collapse right? That was deliberate not accidental. I think I've said enough already here.

God bless.

God bless you man of God,

Kobojunkie:
Nigerian Christians and possible issues aside, in the Bible, God Himself declared that the New thing He had to do was in the person of Jesus Christ, and this He declared from the them of Abraham with which to bless all the nations of the world with. So your assumption that God would have more new things to do, this even after blessing the entire world, amounts to assuming God as being no much different from humans, with no clear idea of the future and needing to make new plans to tackle new challenges. The authors in the Bible Bible you instead that that isn't who God - He knows the end from the beginning and so is never playing catchup.

Why don't you start your own thread instead of obsessing over my thread. In case you are not aware, repeating a lie ten thousand times will not suddenly make it the truth. To as many of you that strongly oppose me as if taking time to nurture this thread is putting money in my bank account, the fact that you do not retain God in your consciousness you believe everyone will just form a big lie for whatever reason like you would do but unlike you I fear the Almighty God 24/7 and I'm well aware of what await anyone saying God said when He has not said. Stop wasting your time here, start your own thread and continue your ranting there.

MrCodeSolo:
Salam alaikum waramatullahi wabarakatuhu.
@Op. Your personal story that led to your revert to Islam may not be the most glamorous of all lol. But one important fact that is attributed to Islam mostly is about the revelation of the divine truth; as revealed to our prophet Mohammed (pbuh), the existence of the one true sovereign God Almighty of which Jesus a messiah translated Christ, spoke highly of the exaltation of that same one true God Almighty during and throughout his ministry on earth. Yes...I'm a new muslim revert; and having done Christianity for many years and read the Holy Bible I could auzubillah beat my tiny chest and challenge my fellow Christian people that they should mention where is there ever recorded in the Holy Bible that Jesus said he is God and the people should worship him?
Romans 1:25
Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and revered and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever.
Jesus Christ was created by God and he was not the creature himself! Therefore,
Jesus Christ is the son of Mary fashioned out of her immaculate womb, not conceived by man but of the holy spirit that I believe as a muslim.

Qur'an 5:72
They have certainly disbelieved who say, "God is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, serve God, *Matthew 4:10, *Luke 4:8 my Lord and your Lord." *Mark 12:29, *John 20:17 Indeed, he who associates others with God - God has certainly forbidden the Garden for him, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are no helpers for the wrongdoers.

All credits and all accounts of attributing Jesus Christ to God made flesh that walked on the face of the earth goes to Paul of tarsus, who wrote a greater portions of the bible, about 12 books of the new testament as a result of his alleged conversion from the self-proclaimed position of a bounty hunter of Judaism faith, a murder-facilitator [ because he witnessed the stoning of saint Stephen by which according to the Jewish law, the witnesses were first ones to throw the stones. They were the leading executioners ], prosecutor of Christians to a strong advocate of the early Christian faith and movement. Paul of tarsus was no doubt the originator of Christianity because it was his doctrines and teachings that gave birth to the churches you see everywhere around you today.
And let it be noted here that Jesus, the messiah translated 'Christ' never founded any religion but his mission only was to fulfill the prophecy as foreseen by prophet Isaiah 53:3-12. And never during his ministry on earth has he made, let or asked anyone to worship him.

And from among all of the names made in reference to him in the holy bible;
Jesus.
Emmanuel.
Christ.
Lord.
Master.
Logos (the Word)
Son of God.
Son of man:
The son of man as referred to jesus Christ though the Bible does not define its exact meaning, the title "Son of Man" probably refers to the fact that Jesus was perfect humanity literally meaning a human being and was mentioned 81 times in the new testament. Yes!
The expression "the Son of man" appears 81 times in the Koine Greek of the four Gospels: 30 times in Matthew, 14 times in Mark, 25 times in Luke and 12 times in John.
Sixty-nine times in the Synoptic Gospels Jesus calls himself (the) "Son of man", a Greek expression which in its Aramaic (and Hebrew) background could be an oblique way for indicating the speaker's own self (e.g., Matt 8:20), or else simply mean "someone" or "a human being" (as in Ps 8:4, where it is a poetic variant.
Luke 22:69
Hereafter the Son of man will sit on the right hand of the power of God
Luke 22:48
But Jesus said to him, "Judas, do you betray the Son of man with a kiss?" and
Mark 2:27-28, Matthew 12:8 and Luke 6:5.


Quran 5:75
The Messiah, son of Mary, was nothing but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was truthful. They both used to eat food. Look how We make the signs clear to them; then look how they [ the followers of christ that are saying he is the son of God ] are deluded.

Isaiah 49:1
Listen, O isles, to me; and listen, you people, from afar; the Lord has called me [son of Man, i.e a mere human being] from the womb; He has made mention of my name [Jesus Christ] from the bowels of my mother [Mary].

And it's for the same reason the people wanted him to die for refusing to reaffirm to them that he's the son of God or the king sent from heaven.
I love Jesus Christ too...far more than many today christians and several church-goers. I believe in his miraculous birth and I believe he's a messiah translated Christ sent by God Almighty.
If you read the Bible carefully, you will understand why Jesus Christ never replied directly or gave a straight answer to the multitude, pilates or anyone calling him son of God and he never objects to the title. Yes! It's all there in your holy book.
In Matthew 3:17 and Luke 3:22 Jesus allows himself to be called the Son of God by the voice from above, not objecting to the title.

Luke 22:70-71
Then they all said, "Are you then the son of God?" And he said to them, "You say that I am......"
Mark 8:29-30
He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
Peter answered and said to Him, “You are the Christ.”
Then He strictly warned them that they should tell no one about Him.

Somebody here said that the followers of islam are not tormented frequently by the devil...since they are heading into the path of destruction already and bla bla bla... Hold thy tongue! Mr?
Fyi, satan torment and is working to deviate the true followers of Islam everyday also....and the Qur'an says that we should avoid at all costs the footsteps of the devil.

What's there not to understand from that holy scriptural verse.“You who believe enter Islam totally. Do not follow in the footsteps of Satan he is an outright enemy to you.” (Qur’an, 2:208)
“Allah intends for you ease and does not intend for you hardship.” (Qur’an, 2:185)
Why then as a true muslim must I suffer in the hands and torments of satan 24/7 when subhana Allah has not permitted him or willed it for me?
I have so many other things to say and argue about for argument's sake with quotations from your own bible scriptures alone to backup my claims. I won't even open the Holy Qur'an for them [christians] but will only recites verses from it and face before you people with the divine truth and facts so you all may see clearly this signs. To my op. Sis may Allah reward you exceedingly with much abundance of gifts..
Jazakallah khairan to you all.

Masha Allah Sister, amen to your prayers, may Allah (swa) continue to guide you and shine His light on your path. Nigerian Christians have been brainwashed by their Pastors so much that they are not open to other possibilities, they feel they have God figured out and God cannot do any new thing again. I used to be like that so I'm not really surprised. Jummat Mubarak

Kobojunkie:
I think I already explained to you about the differences between the Old Covenant Law of Moses - details of which are housed in the Books of Exodus, Leviticus, Number and Deuteronomy - and the New Covenant Law, Jesus Christ - details found written down in Matthew Mark, Luke and John - where the former is a Law defined by God specifically for those who are descended from Jacob, as Law in the land of Cannaan, whereas the latter is God's Law in the Kingdom of God for those who will choose to believe in Jesus Christ.

It is against God to attempt to add to * or remove from ** God's Old Covenant Law of Moses. That act amounts to idolatry, sin against God Himself as it is a blatant attempt by those who do so to usurp God's authority. In the same manner, it is against God to attempt to add to * or remove from ** God's New Covenant Law, as this, again, amounts to idolatry. an act against God Himself.

God's Covenants/Laws are everlasting contracts separately defined, and rightly so, between God and man/ peoples and the expectation is complete Trust and obedience to the terms and conditions from those bound to the individual Covenant.

So when you assert that Muslims, those who abide by a separate set of rules order than the very rules set by the Covenant Jesus Christ, are also Christians, what you do is declare Muslims idol worshipers who attempt to worship God by sinning against Him - antichrist.

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FYI Jesus Christ's death on the cross had absolutely to do with animal sacrifices of old. His death was for a completely different reason than what you hear from popular doctrines and traditions of men floating out there. You claim to have been a Christian for 20 years yet you seem so filled with the doctrines and traditions of men, which Jesus Christ warned were nothing but lies that are meant to decieve many away from the Truth of God,nullifying the power of God their lives as a result.

Animal sacrifices are defined of the Old Covenant but in the New Covenant, they are of no use since this is a different law from the Old - different rules, blessings, curses, rituals, seals, promises, etc.

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* doctrines and teachings of men
** laws, teachings, rituals, curses, blessings etc. that can be removed from the terms and conditions of specified Law

You are welcome to stick to your beliefs

peggywebbs:
@vannessa7...I don't know but somehow I saw this thread and read it all. Anyway here's my deduction.

-You were a muslim before you ventured into Christianity.
- You only went back to your original practice.

As a woman, there is one thing I know, when courting, dating or whatever, people tend to meet people who are within the same social circle. That is why it very rare but not impossible for Christians to meet muslims as spouses and vice versa.

The only reason you were meeting Muslim suitors is because you have an association with them, from friends, family and other acquaintances.

That aside, I'm 100% sure that it was not afflictions that sent you away from the church. I've met people who within a 5 minutes discussion, will tell you how someone from their family, a friend or colleague is using witchcraft powers on them.

Some will even tell you that they have taken their glory or what not. The point is they are always suspicious of everybody. And attribute real life challenges with spiritual warefare. Hence the reason they move from place to place looking for solutions. I'm not saying you didn't have challenges, I'm just saying what I know. Pastors are always happy to prey on people who come with problems that are not problems. They'll exploit you, frustrate you.

As for the suspicious nature, you end up picking quarrels with people, thinking people and distancing yourself from them. This also will drive you away from the church because you will feel that they are either not spiritual enough or they have offended you.

Another thing I can say is, from the little I know of Pentecostal churches, everyone is grouped in a ministry. If you claimed to be an envagelist, then you completely missed out what your role was in the church. Evangelists don't do healing and miracle ( not that it can't happen but that's not their area of speciality). Envagelists operate as gospel preachers, they are like the voice in the wilderness calling people to repent and give their life to Christ.

Healing and miracles, is done by the Holy Spirit, in an atmosphere of praise, worship and intercession. Which means other people with these giftings also play their role.

Seeing exam results, seeing things that come to pass, that's a prophetic gift given by the Holy Spirit. It's given by God to bring comfort to his children. I usually say, it's a way God tells us, he is walking with us everyday and never leaves us.

Then another thing I will tell you is that you don't believe the Bible, you claim to read. I don't read the Bible as much as you do so don't expect any debate. But I know that the Quran and the Bible conflict with each other. And I also know that it would take a lot to make me unlearn all that I have learned about God today. I don't agree with everything I read but at the same time I don't know how you did it.

The foundation of Christianity is that Jesus Christ came as flesh through Mary, Was Crucified and died, Rose on the 3rd day and Ascended. That is the gospel and infact that is what every evangelist preaches right up to the point where they tell you Jesus is coming back again. So how you completely believed that Jesus didn't die on the cross is what prompted me to say, you were from a Muslim home before you came to the church. It's one of the most difficult things to remove from any past or present Christian's mind.

Anyway, Like I always say God is not Christian or Muslim, neither is Jesus Christ. But one thing is clear God is the Almighty, Jesus is the light of the world. I know that without him, you can't be saved.


I know that he is an embodiment of holiness and you cannot even compare him with the prophets of old. I also know that you know all of this.

So if you have put aside everything you know about God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. It is your choice and like everyone here, we all have choices.

I also know that trials and tribulations never end. At different stages in life we all fight different battles. But why you choose to lie by giving a false sense of peace, I don't know.

But I can tell you are not saying the whole truth and I'm not here to judge you. It's your truth and not mine. I've only written my opinion about everything I read and probably forget it before midday.

Like you said it's all your opinion, you are free to air it.

Iamicekid:
Can u see, ain’t in support of rape ooo but something like this have wanted to happen to you and you still became close friends with that same person, allowing him to come to your house and all that, are you even thinking, so why won’t he do it to your child since him go think se u go forget am like u did yours now and you guys will still be more closer... sometime you need to think common

Go and read and understand, what you wrote doesn't correlate

Kobojunkie:
But he is right by that assertion. Your conclusion that every Muslim is also a Christian is akin to declaring them idol worshippers by Christian standards.

God is a God of Laws and His Laws are absolute implying that in no way are you to add to His Law other teachings either from other Laws or from the doctrines and traditions of men. Jesus Christ, is God's New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God. So, adding even islamic doctrines and traditions to the Law that is Jesus Christ is a sin. I.e. antiChrist in practice.

Judaism started almost 4000 years ago while christianity is 2000 years old, they did not start the same time yet christianity has imbibe many of the rules and injunctions of judaism except for the ones that mark the core difference between them such as animal sacrifice and Jesus sacrifice. The old testament is mostly attached to the new testament and the christians accept it because they have evidence in their text which refer them to the old testament and confirms they are from the same source, I understand those still practicing judaism also disprove the authenticity of christianity just like christians are disproving islam now. If christians recognize and accept judaism as being from God reading and believing the words in it without seeing it as idolatry, islam also being the last in line see and accept christianity and judaism as part of us because the quran said so and it's one of the qualifications for being a Muslim, God is one and all His books say so. The three religion are God's attempt at drawing mankind unto Him after the fall of man, they just stand on different covenants and different mode of worshipping the same God. No matter how nigerian christians shout and disdain Islam, it will not change what islam is or make islam disappear, and christians will not and cannot teach God how to run the world.

Childofaking:
What you are recommending i do are occultic practices, i can as well go to an idol shrine to test their powers, they have powers too.
I have experienced the power of Jesus in a practical way, not theories, i have prayed and received answers to prayers, i have received healing for my body, i have prayed for job and God told me when the job will come. But what if i didn't receive those things, does it make God a liar, no.

You are basing your conviction of the authenticity of your new faith on the fact of the deliverance or material prosperity you have received. Our salvation is not based on material possession,. Like i said earlier one of the quickest ways to make the devil leave you alone is to profess there is no God or go into error(like you have done), the devil will give you space or prosper you, he is only preserving you for your doom.

Don't you know that when you in the right way the devil fights you? If the devil has stopped fighting you, then you have missed it.

There is only one way to salvation and that is through believe in the only begotten son of God.

I did not refer to christianity but islam which you proclaim to be satanic without any basis. FYI every Muslim is also a christian, we Muslim own three books of God, the old testament, (Torah), the new testament,(ingeel), and the Quran, God said he sent all those books and we must believe in them to. So Muslim has no doubt that God originated christianity and the power of God is in it, but it's the many errors introduced into the bible through the various interpretations and also human angle viewpoints in it that we are warned to beware of, also the same way the covenant of judaism, old testament, is different from that of christianity, new testament, is the same way the covenant of islam Quran is different. I wrote about the very many miracles I experienced as a christian, I don't think you really went through all my write-up before replying because I never said there is no power of God in christianity.

As for saying practicing islam is like occult, that's just the product of a lazy mind, you think if we are in a court of law your submissions will just be accepted without verification even when you refused to believe or accept the voice of experience. You are living in fantasy, your ignorance will not make the truth go away.

oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!



I SEE NO REASON TO BELIEVE ANY PART OF THIS STORY, BECAUSE IT GOES QUITE AGAINST WHAT I KNOW OF CHRISTIANITY, ISLAM, AND SPIRITUALITY.

[color=silver].[/color] DEUTERONOMY 12:32-13:5.

32. What thing soever
I Command you,
observe to do it:
thou shalt not add thereto,
nor diminish from it.
IF there arise among you a Prophet,
or a Dreamer of Dreams,
and giveth thee a Sign or a Wonder,
2. And the Sign or
the Wonder come to pass,
whereof he spake unto thee,
saying,

"LET US GO AFTER OTHER GODS,
WHICH THOU HAST NOT KNOWN,
AND LET US SERVE THEM;"

3. Thou shalt not hearken unto
The Words of that Prophet,
or that Dreamer of Dreams:
for The LORD your God proveth you,
to know whether ye love
The LORD your God
with all your heart
and with all your soul.
4. Ye shall walk after
The LORD your God,
and fear Him,
and keep His Commandments,
and obey His Voice,
and ye shall serve Him,
and cleave unto Him.
5. And that prophet,
or that Dreamer of Dreams,
shall be put to death;
because he hath spoken
to turn you away
from The LORD your God,
Which brought you
out of the Land of Egypt,
and Redeemed you
out of the House of Bondage,
to thrust thee out of The Way
which The LORD thy God
Commanded thee to walk in.



WHO TOLD YOU THAT YOU WERE BORN AGAIN? WHAT THE OYINBOS TELL US IS "BORN AGAIN" IS NOT THE BORN AGAIN EXPERIENCE LORD YESHUA OFFERS.

[color=silver].[/color] JOHN 3:1-21.

THERE was a man of the Pharisees,
named Nicodemus,
a Ruler of the Jews:
2. The same came to Jesus
by night,
and said unto him,

"Rabbi, we know
that thou art a Teacher
come from God:
for no man can do
these Miracles
that thou doest,
except God be with him."

3. Jesus Answered
and Said unto him,

"Verily, verily,
I Say unto thee,

'EXCEPT A MAN
BE BORN AGAIN,
HE CANNOT SEE
THE KINGDOM OF GOD.'

4. Nicodemus saith unto him,

"How can a man be born
when he is old?
Can he enter the second time
into his mother's womb,
and be born?"

5. Jesus Answered,

"Verily, verily,
I Say unto thee,

'EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN
OF WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT,
HE CAN NOT ENTER INTO
THE KINGDOM OF GOD.'

6. "That which is Born
of the Flesh
is flesh;
and that which is Born
of The Spirit
is spirit.
7. "Marvel not
that I Said unto thee,

'YE MUST BE
BORN AGAIN.'

8. "The wind bloweth
where it listeth,
and thou hearest
the sound thereof,
but canst not tell
whence it cometh,
and whither it goeth:
so is every one
that is Born of The Spirit."

9. Nicodemus answered
and said unto him,

"How can these things be?"

10. Jesus Answered
and Said unto him,

"Art thou a Master of Israel,
and knowest not
these things?
11. "Verily, verily,
I Say unto thee,

'WE SPEAK
THAT WE DO KNOW,
AND TESTIFY
THAT WE HAVE SEEN;
AND YE RECEIVE NOT
OUR WITNESS.'

12. "If I have told you
Earthly Things,
and ye believe not,
how shall ye believe,
if I tell you
of Heavenly Things?
13. "And no man
hath ascended up to Heaven,
but he that came down
from Heaven,
even The Son of Man
which is in Heaven.
14. "And as Moses lifted up
the Serpent in the Wilderness,
even so must The Son of Man
be lifted up:
15. "That whosoever
believeth in him
should not perish,
but have Eternal Life.
16. "For God so loved
the World,
that He gave
His only Begotten Son,
that whosoever
believeth in him
should not Perish,
but have Everlasting Life.
17. "For God sent not His Son
into the World
to Condemn the World;
but that the World through him
might be Saved.
18. "He that believeth in him
is not Condemned:
but he that believeth not
is Condemned Already,
because he hath not
believed in
The Name of The Only
Begotten Son of God.
19. "And this is The Condemnation,

'THAT LIGHT IS COME
INTO THE WORLD,
AND MEN LOVED DARKNESS
RATHER THAN LIGHT,
BECAUSE THEIR DEEDS
WERE EVIL.'

20. "For every one
that doeth Evil
hateth The Light,
neither cometh
to The Light,
lest his deeds
should be reproved.
21. "But he that doeth Truth
cometh to The Light,
that his deeds
may be manifest,
that they are
wrought in God."

"BORN AGAIN" IN NORTHERN ARAMAIC MEANS: "TO CHANGE ONE'S THOUGHTS AND HABITS." NICODEMUS SPOKE SOUTHERN ARAMAIC, AND HENCE DID NOT UNDERSTAND JESUS. [Footnote to JOHN 3:3,5 in the Lamsa Peshitta Bible.]

IF YOUR THOUGHTS AND HABITS WERE NOT CHANGED BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD- THEN YOU WERE NOT BORN OF GOD.

For instance- if you believe Lord Yeshua is The Christ, because somebody told you, then you are not Born of God.



IT IS TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO BE A "HOME FELLOWSHIP LEADER," "PRAYER WARRIOR," "EVANGELIST," OR A "FOLLOW-UP COUNSELLOR," AND HAVE "NOTHING GOING ON IN YOUR LIFE."

Even a " SANCTUARY CLEANER" has room to learn important things. In Oriental Martial Arts Schools, when you barge in begging for tutelage, according to legend, they make you their cleaner. If you complain that you are not learning what you came for, they prove to you that you have made more progress than you thought.

You don't know what any of those terms mean, because you only know their dictionary definitions, at best- you haven't lived them.

How can you have a "job," and say that "nothing was going on in your life?"

What a foolish lie!

Your story is a fabrication.

[color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 7:12-29.

12. "Therefore all things
whatsoever ye would
that men should do to you,
do ye even so to them:
for this is
The Law and The Prophets.
13. "Enter ye in
at The Strait Gate:
for wide is the Gate,
and broad is the way,
that leadeth to Destruction,
and many there be
which go in thereat:
14. "Because strait is the Gate,
and narrow is The Way,
which leadeth unto Life,
and few there be that find it.
15. "Beware of False Prophets,
which come to you
in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are
ravening wolves.
16. "Ye shall know them by their fruits.
Do men gather
grapes of thorns,
or figs of thistles?
17. "Even so every Good Tree
bringeth forth Good Fruit;
but a Corrupt Tree
bringeth forth Evil Fruit.
18. "A Good Tree cannot
bring forth Evil Fruit,
neither can a Corrupt Tree
bring forth Good Fruit.
19. "Every tree that
bringeth not forth Good Fruit
is hewn down,
and cast into the Fire.
20 Wherefore by their Fruits
ye shall know them.
21. "Not every one
that saith unto me,
'Lord, Lord,' shall enter into
The Kingdom of Heaven;
but He that doeth
The Will of my Father
Which is in Heaven.
22 Many will say to me
in That Day,

'LORD, LORD,
HAVE WE NOT
PROPHESIED IN THY NAME?
AND IN THY NAME
HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS?
AND IN THY NAME
DONE MANY
WONDERFUL WORKS?'

23. "And then will I
profess unto them,

'I NEVER KNEW YOU:
DEPART FROM ME,
YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.'

24. "Therefore whosoever heareth
These Sayings of mine,
and doeth Them,
I will liken him unto
a Wise Man,
which built his house
upon a rock:
25. "And the rain descended,
and the floods came,
and the winds blew,
and beat upon that house;
and it fell not:
for it was founded
upon a rock.
26 . "And every one
that heareth
These Sayings of mine,
and doeth them not,
shall be likened unto
a Foolish Man,
which built his house
upon the sand:
27. "And the rain descended,
and the floods came,
and the winds blew,
and beat upon that house;
and it fell:
and great was the fall of it."
28. And it came to pass,
when Jesus had
ended these Sayings,
the people were astonished
at his Doctrine:
29. For He taught them
as one having authority,
and not as the scribes.

CHURCH ACTIVITIES- EVEN THE WORKING OF MIRACLES- ARE MEANINGLESS, IF ONE DOES NOT KEEP LORD YESHUA'S COMMANDMENTS.



THIS IS GIBBERISH- MERE STRINGING TOGETHER TECHNICAL TERMS YOU JUST HEARD OTHER PEOPLE USE!

What is a "WITCHCRAFT ATTACK?"

What is a "FAMILIAR SPIRIT?"

What is an "ANCESTRAL CURSE?"

How can a Christian have "FAMILY IDOL?"

You must be an idiot to claim all these, and then say, NOTHING WAS HAPPENING IN YOUR LIFE!

[color=silver].[/color] MATTHEW 12:22-45.

22. Then was brought unto him
one possessed with a Devil,
blind, and dumb:
and he healed him,
insomuch that
the Blind and Dumb
both spake and saw.
23. And all the people were amazed,
and said,

"IS NOT THIS
THE SON OF DAVID?"

24. But when
the Pharisees heard it,
they said,

"This fellow doth not
cast out Devils,
but by Beelzebub
the Prince of the Devils."

25. And Jesus
knew their thoughts,
and Said unto them,

"Every kingdom
divided against itself
is brought to desolation;
and every city or house
divided against itself
shall not stand:
26. "And if Satan cast out Satan,
he is divided against himself;
how shall then his Kingdom stand?
27. "And if I by Beelzebub
cast out Devils,
by whom do your children
cast them out?
Therefore they shall be your judges.
28. "But if I cast out Devils
by The Spirit of God,
then The Kingdom of God
is come unto you.
29. "Or else how can one
enter into a Strong Man's House,
and spoil his goods,
except he first bind the Strong Man?
And then he will spoil his House.
30. "He that is not with me
is against me;
and he that
gathereth not with me
scattereth abroad.
31. "Wherefore I Say unto you,

'ALL MANNER
OF SIN AND BLASPHEMY
SHALL BE FORGIVEN
UNTO MEN:
BUT THE BLASPHEMY
AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST
SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN
UNTO MEN.'

32. "And whosoever speaketh
a Word against
The Son of Man,
it shall be forgiven him:
but whosoever speaketh
against The Holy Ghost,
it shall not be forgiven him,
neither in this World,
neither in the World to come.
33. "Either make the tree good,
and his fruit good;
or else make the tree corrupt,
and his fruit corrupt:
for the tree is known
by his fruit.
34. "O Generation of Vipers,
how can ye, being Evil,
speak Good Things?
For out of the Abundance of the heart
the mouth speaketh.
35. "A Good Man
out of the Good Treasure
of the heart
bringeth forth Good Things:
and an Evil Man
out of the Evil Treasure
bringeth forth Evil Things.
36.But I Say unto you,

'THAT EVERY IDLE WORD
THAT MEN SHALL SPEAK,
THEY SHALL GIVE
ACCOUNT THEREOF
IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.'

37. "For by thy Words
thou shalt be Justified,
and by thy Words thou shalt be Condemned."
38. Then certain of the scribes
and of the Pharisees answered,
saying,

"Master,
we would see
a Sign from thee."

39. But he Answered
and Said unto them,

"An Evil and
Adulterous Generation
seeketh after a Sign;
and there shall no Sign
be given to it,
but The Sign of
the Prophet Jonas:
40. "For as Jonas was
three days and three nights
in the whale's belly;
so shall the Son of Man
be three days
and three nights
in the heart of the Earth.

41. "The men of Nineveh
shall rise in Judgment with this Generation,
and shall Condemn It:
because they repented
at the Preaching of Jonas;
and, behold,
a Greater than Jonas is here.
42. "The Queen of the South
shall rise up in the Judgment
with this Generation,
and shall Condemn It:
for she came from
The Uttermost Parts of the Earth
to hear The Wisdom of Solomon;
and, behold,
a Greater than Solomon is here.
43. "When the unclean spirit
is gone out of a man,
he walketh through dry places,
seeking rest,
and findeth none.
44. "Then he saith,

'I WILL RETURN INTO MY HOUSE
FROM WHENCE I CAME OUT;'

and when he is come,
he findeth it empty,
swept, and garnished.
45. "Then goeth he,
and taketh with himself
seven other spirits
more wicked than himself,
and they enter in and dwell there:
and the last state of that man
is worse than the first.
Even so shall it be also
unto this Wicked Generation."



YOU CLAIM TO HAVE GRADUATED IN SOMETHING, AND BEEN MARRIED FOR FOUR YEARS- WHILE "NOTHING WAS GOING ON IN YOUR LIFE!"

[color=silver].[/color]    JOHN 8:28-36.

28. Then Said Jesus
unto them,

"When ye have lifted up
The Son of Man,
then shall ye know
that I am he,
and that I do
nothing of myself;
but as my Father
hath Taught me,
I Speak these things.
29. "And He that sent me
is with me:
The Father hath not
left me alone;
for I do always those things
that please Him."

30. As he Spake
these Words,
many believed on him.

31. Then Said Jesus
to those Jews
which believed on him,

"If ye continue
in my Word,
then are ye
my Disciples indeed;
32. "And ye shall
know The Truth,
and The Truth
shall make you Free."

33. They answered him,

"We be Abraham's Seed,
and were never in bondage
to any man:
how sayest thou,  

'YE SHALL BE
MADE FREE?' "

34. Jesus Answered them,

"Verily, verily,
I Say unto you,

WHOSOEVER COMMITTETH SIN
IS THE SERVANT OF SIN.
35. 'AND THE SERVANT
ABIDETH NOT
IN THE HOUSE FOR EVER:
BUT THE SON
ABIDETH EVER.'

36. "If the Son therefore
shall make you free,
ye shall be free indeed."

A CHRISTIAN WHO DOES LORD YESHUA'S TEACHINGS ACHIEVES THE TRUTH, AND BECOMES FREE.



THE PRIORITY OF A CHRISTIAN IS TO PRAY TO KNOW LORD YESHUA- NOT A HUSBAND.

You are telling us to believe, that you went to Christian Programmes and Churches, with thousands of members, and couldn't find a Husband?



I USED TO FALL ILL TO MALARIA EVERY THREE MONTHS- FOR FIVE YEARS, I HEALED MYSELF THROUGH PRAYER.

Then I found the Minister who taught T.L. OSBORN- FRANKLIN HALL- whom my Church didn't want us to know about.

THREE DAYS OF FASTING immunizes against MALARIA for 30 days- in my personal experience.

I have never had Typhoid.

Why did you keep drinking Dirty Water, and/or eating Dirty Food?

HOW THE HELL CAN YOU JOIN RCCG- WHEN YOU HAVE NEVER MISSED A HOLY GHOST SERVICE IN FOUR YEARS?

Where was your Church- in THE TWILIGHT ZONE?



HOW DOES A WOMAN EVANGELIST NOTICE THE HOLY GHOST IN THE TEMPLE OF THE FALSE RELIGION, ISLAM??

Are we talking about the same "ISLAM" here?

The one that denies that Lord Yeshua was crucified, or resurrected from the dead?

The Religion that authorizes a man to Bleep his wife after she has died.

The Religion that authorizes the fucking of cattle- even after they have died?

The Religion whose god does nothing for the women who contract gonorrhea from their husbands fucking animals, so that they go blind, and pass the disease on to their newborn children?

You are saying that the Holy Ghost that Heals Christians is in that Religion, too?

You cannot know what you are talking about.



AFTER YEARS AS A CHRISTIAN, YOU DID NOT UNDERSTAND SINGING IN CHURCH BEFORE THE DI-CALLED HOLY GHOST MANIFESTED- BUT, YOU CLAIM TO UNDERSTAND FROM BEING IN A MOSQUE?

Your testimony is consistent with Devil-Possessed Insanity.

WHAT did you "understand?"



ANYONE WHO IS SPIRITUALLY-SENSITIVE, GOING INTO A DEVIL-POSSESSED ZONE, WITHOUT GOD WILL COME UNDER SPIRITUAL ATTACK- AND COULD DIE.

This happened to T.L. OSBORN, when he first went to India.

The same thing later happened to MORRIS CERULLO.

[See: T.L. OSBORN AND DAISY OSBORN TELL THEIR STORY.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PlA4aK6VAOA

THE BACKSIDE OF SATAN, by Morris Cerullo (1973).]

I will like to really commend you for all your trouble putting down such long epistle. You quoted Bible verses to disprove all my arguments. I hope you know that there is hardly nothing in this life that you cannot find a bible verse to support or disprove, because it is Logos, the general word of God to humanity or to a particular person in the bible, now you need to get Rhema, which is the word of God to you in your situation, which form the basis of my convertion to islam in the first place. You cannot quote that because God gave mary a child through the Holy spirit then it must be so for you, getting you own Rhema could involve God pointing you to a bible verse and you will know you actually received that bible verse or you have a dream or vision, it could be audible voice or inspiration in your mind and you will know it is the Holy spirit. You need to back up your arguments with that, if not you are just beating around the bush, try and find out if there is God in Islam, the bible says deep calleth into deep, if you really have God you can hear Him, carry out that assignment and get back to me, better still practice islam for just three months and find out if there is God in it . Stop making assumptions. I had to pass several test in the wilderness before islam was revealed to me, it's by the mercy of God.

motayoayinde:
SO HAPPY FOR YOU VANESSA.

WELCOME TO ISLAM

WELCOME TO LIGHT.

MAY ALLAH'S BLESSINGS AND GUIDANCE ABIDE WITH YOU ALWAYS

Allahumo aamiin, and you too

Childofaking:
Let me tell you Madam Venessa, the devil got you. He is the father of deception. As soon as you went into error, he just left you alone, no more bad dreams, no more oppressions, he will do anything for you to make sure you don't go back to the right way. it would have been the same thing if you had become an atheist, he will still leave you alone.

what of the things you read ijn the Bible, that i am the way the truth and the life, nobody goes to the father except by me, so that is no longer true ? The Quran was written about 500 years after jesus came and you can see the it is just a copy and paste (bad copy) of the things in the bible.

Your theoretical facts has no basis for comparison with my practical experience. You have never been a Muslim but you think you know anything about islam whereas I've been a practicing Muslim for the past four years after being a Christian minister for twenty years . Mind you I know many people who have experienced a drastic change too after reverting to islam. A lady still told me yesterday that she listened to an audio Quran with an ear piece while sleeping and she dreamt that a Python vomited her, I know many people who left islam for christianity because they were preached to but had to run back when they started experiencing serious warfare they never knew they had before, warfare that was impotent now became powerful.
I have just two assignments for you and I need you to complete them and get back to me with your results, if you are right I will believe all your theory. First try to hold and read a bible while on your period if you are a female or get a female close to you to do that at the peak of her period when the blood is really flowing and also do same with a Quran, hold it close and read it for five minutes then note the difference in your body while holding bible and also while holding Quran. If you are able to handle the quran with menstruation without any reaction then I will believe that the quran is a bad copy of the Bible, secondly, I need you to carry out a personal research by practicing islam for just three months, come back and tell me your experience but if you have not done this two you don't have any basis for lecturing me. Imagine the visitor trying to show the road to an indigene. I also address as many of you who feel they have a basis for arguing with me. If you cannot do this two and bring your experience then we are not on the same table. Experience is the best teacher

Kobojunkie:
1. Are you of the Tribe of Levi that the laws God gave specifically to those descended from Levi of the blood of Jacob, the priests of Israel, should be of particular concern to you?
If the answer is yes, then sure we can shift our focus completely from Jesus Christ, the New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God, to dissecting the reasons God have the Levites for the cleansing Rituals we instructed of them.

2. When reading the Bible, always pay great attention to context, this in much the same way you would to context when reading any other non-religious text. If you had paid close attention to the passage of John 13 vs 1 - 17, Jesus Christ more than makes clear the reason why He washed the feet of His disciples in verses 12 -17. He, Jesus Christ, washed their feet in order to show Himself a servant to them all even as He was their Lord and Teacher, commanding that they serve one another just as He had just done.

3. Again, always pay attention to context even reading from a book which is a recording of a dream/vision. The appearance of an army of God has nothing to do with the Old Covenant Law given to those descendants of Levi and also have nothing to do with the New Covenant Law, Jesus Christ,given to us to follow.

This isn't about your winning of arguement but in making the Truth of God is continually confused with the doctrines and traditions of men which you seem adept at following there.

Suit yourself

Kobojunkie:
God is True and He is also God of Laws and His Laws are everlasting Covenants to peoples, and God's Laws are to be obeyed.

1. As explained in John 1, Jesus Christ is the Word out of God's own Mouth - Matthew 4 vs 4- and He is also the embodiment of the New Covenant, Law, promised by God through His promised through the prophets of Old, since the time of Abraham, to His people Israel , with which God said He would bless all the Nations with.

The Word of God, Jesus Christ,is God's Law(Truth) in the Kingdom of God and it is His teachings & rules that define for us what the good and acceptable Will of God. The Law is given to all those who believe in Jesus Christ for it is to them that the promise of the Law, Jesus Christ, belongs.

It is this same Law, Jesus Christ, that the Spirit of God, speaks to all those who belong to the flock of Jesus Christ. As Jesus Christ made it clear in John 16, the Spirit does not manufacture His own Truth but instead takes from the Truth which is Jesus Christ to give to His followers - The Spirit of God will never contradict the teachings of Jesus Christ.

2. The idea that "cleanliness is next to godliness" is not found in the Bible at all. God never gave His people ruies on bathing, or the sort, suggesting that it is somehow tied up with their Holiness. Holiness refers instead to the living of a life in complete submission to and obedience of God's comandments/rules - the washing of hands, clothing, sheets, and all other superficial cleanliness rules are nothing but meaninglessness where God is concerned.

The filth God loathes is not that of your body(body odour etc.), but instead what you have stored up inside of your heart..sin - that is the filth that makes one unholy, the only thing God can't abide. Other than that, you can chose to remain stinky for a year if you want, so long as your heart is submitted to and in obedience to God, God is happy with you!

Any doctrine that teaches that Holiness has to do with the way you take clean and care for your body or sheets, are not of God but of men. In Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14, God warned us all against listening to and following these doctrines and traditions of men, lies He called them, which instead drive you further away from the Truth of God than towards God by causing you to be distracted by that which is meaningless to God - Mark 7 vs 1 - 23.

You wrote all the above because you don't read the Bible, it's true that the exact word cleanliness is next to godliness is not found in the bible but God made it vividly clear that he will not tolerate filth, I will recommend you study the book of leviticus and read all the laws of God on cleanliness. He also told the children of israel while in the wilderness to always go further from their camp, dig the ground and hide their faeces there or else He would break out among them. Abraham washed the feet of his visitors, and Jesus washed the feet of his disciples. Read what Jesus said about cleaning in John 13:10. In the old testament the priest had to wash his hand and feet before ministering at the alter. Revelations19:14 talks about the appearance of the army of God, check it out. There are too many instances in the bible but as a Muslim I had to be the one pointing them out to you a christian.

I took time to explain all this because of someone who might read your comments and think it's okay to live a dirty life while serving God, I'm not really addressing you because I know no matter what I say all you want to do is win an argument, but why don't you experiment with this your beliefs, try and not take your bath and be sleeping like that for a week and if you are spiritually sensitive note the difference. But you may not even know the difference

MaxInDHouse:
How have you allowed for this when i tried to approach you with reasoning?




Did you allow for contrary opinion on what you know presently?

I saw your thread and feel like knowing what exactly helped you during your research, i made my stand clear perhaps you will open up so that we can both share from our experience but it's obvious you've sealed your mind. You're only here to throw tantrums on other people's religion without giving room for reasoning.
Well if you believe in your so called INSPIRATION i'm glad to tell you that there are hundreds of thousands of testimonies about inspiration in different religions and they are all totally contradicting one another, for instance many have said that they are inspired and they're seeing Muhammad and all past Muslims languishing in HellFire!
That's why i always allow for reasoning so that i can gain insight while sharing with others.
Meanwhile out of all those claiming they were inspired one thing is common with them all:
They all come with THEORIES about how life began, just few of them do have PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS regarding what their so called inspiration revealed but only one out of them all brings out BENEFITS for adherents of their various THEORIES.

So each religion comes up with it's own THEORY few has PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS of what they want to impress in the minds of their listeners but only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization has brought real BENEFITS both to adherents and neighbours.

What do i mean?

Among all descendants of Adam none has seen God nor able to reveal Him in the perfect sense so it's all stories, sacred services and shows of different logics yet we all know that any true organization belonging to God must possess these qualities:
LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23

Of all the religions i have come across in my life only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization have PERFECTLY exhibited all these qualities without leaving one behind.

So you need to check the spirit that's revealing what you said about them again because we all know that Satan is also out there and he is inspiring people too!

May you have PEACE!

Anytime I write anything on the internet I'm always conscious of the fact that I'm putting out information into the webspace that millions of people might access over a very long period of time. I don't write solely to address a particular person but the entire world because I know God through His spirit lead people to information either in the form of books or audio or soft copy like this.
My point: I am not necessarily answering you especially if my information does not apply to you now, but I know every information I give might be used by the Holy spirit to save someone or lead someone to the right path one day.
You said you wanted to know about my experience and viewpoint which I have given but you got angry as if my view point and experience must match your own which means like I said you are not ready to ear anything different from what you know
Secondly you talk about practical experience, which to my understanding what you have practiced and see result and learn from it. You listed the fruits of the spirit as practical experience in Jehovah Witness. But do you know there is something called the principle of God and also the person of God. Anyone can practice the principle of God without having the person of God and they will reap the benefits of it in their lives. Some people are even born with inherent good traits, but if you don't have the person of God it's just like building a house on the sand, it will be washed away when the storm comes. That is why most developed nation are getting ahead because they practice most of this principle and they are seeing the results but when the pandemic came, they were thoroughly affected because they lack the person of God which brings the power of God to help in such situation. Their foundation is on the sand whereas Nigeria with our inability to handle such situation we are nearly free from it because we have prayers. The reason why those good qualities are called fruit of the spirit is that there should be a tree bearing the fruits. God is the tree. But like you can buy orange in the market you can also possess these fruits without having the tree but when there is scarcity, the one with the tree will fare better. My point doing good deeds is good and should be accompanied by having a relationship with God. Having a covenant with the devil while doing good is like wrapping a can of worms in beautiful wrapping paper, it's still full of worms.
About the revelations, I trust my revelations because I have had years of practice and confirm with several experience how God speaks to me. I am naturally gifted in that area and many progress I had has been due to obeying revelations I had. Thanks

MaxInDHouse:
So if you believe God will have to REVEAL Himself to people then it means God is the one at fault when people fails to know Him after all it's only to those whom He revealed Himself that will know Him!

Well it's OK since you don't believe in sharing what you know for others to gain insight but think God is the one that must do it Himself let's leave it at that.

May you have PEACE!

Amen to your prayer

Using emotional blackmail instead of asking direct questions will not get you anywhere. I suggested you seek the face of God yourself for two reasons, first we are in a public domain and many of your people who are not ready to hear anything contrary to what they know about your religion will come across this post, secondly, God Himself said we should seek Him and we shall find Him, He will rarely impose revelations on you especially concerning your beliefs and whatever you have already committed to unless you are asking questions either directly or indirectly.
Anyway, since this thread is meant to enlighten on Religion experience I will give my verdict on jehovah witness now.
While I was still searching for answers and a way out of wilderness, I was inspired that Jehovah witness is another satanic organization because of its foundation which is rooted in satanism, that's why many things in their bible are different from the main stream bible and many of their beliefs. I carried out some online research on it and I found various resources. They are just another organization with many good activities but lacking the presence of God. If you belong to such a place your soul will be corrupted and you will not even be aware, the sabatterian, church of latter day saints (the mormons) belong in that category, they are just glorified cult, the members may not know but that doesn't make them less guilty. I had to do a thorough repentance because I attended a program at that church of latter day saints. I just found the words tumbling out of my mouth and I had to throw away all their papers. The mainstream christianity in itself is okay because it's ordained by God it's just that the covenant of grace meant to allow and tolerate sinners and evil to come to God with the hope of repenting now gives the devil freedom to stay in the life of their victims for much longer whereas islam get rid of evil the same day you start practicing it all things being equal. If you don't have any family evil covenant or you are a white man christianity is ok for you but if you have history of lives being destroyed in your family or you are aware of one idol they worship and you become a christian, they will show you pepper whereas islam will silence them immediately. In christianity you can also be delivered totally if you are able to pass the many test in the wilderness or you become a pastor, someone who ministers to people then God will give you anointing to carry out that work because of the many devil's you will come across so you can do the work of God without being cut down and that will set you free from your own demons. But in Islam all you need is to practice it diligently and no devil will be able to trouble you.