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Politics › Re: COVID-19: Goodluck Jonathan Donates Palliatives To 20 States (list) by Vanzcharles(m): 10:43am On Jul 04, 2020

Igbobymarriage:
I remember your mothers raising a tuber of yam as palliatives too

All na scam.. Polithiefcians... grin

Thunder fire them.. That minister/commisioner wey buy ayz for im 3 wives grin

Politics › Re: COVID-19: Goodluck Jonathan Donates Palliatives To 20 States (list) by Vanzcharles(m): 10:18am On Jul 04, 2020

Igbobymarriage:
Yes.. As u can see.. All igbos states are hungry..

Anambra imo enugu ebonyi and abia are hungry.. They all collected the palliatives..

Hungry SE

I remembered the two loaves of bread sold to your kinsmen for votes coming 2023 grin

as palliative in disguise.
angry

All this political party na scam. Southern Western Nigeria and southern Eastern Nigeria make una use una head! Make una chose ni dey let tinubu or Atiku debate for una

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Politics › Re: COVID-19: Goodluck Jonathan Donates Palliatives To 20 States (list) by Vanzcharles(m): 10:13am On Jul 04, 2020

Onlinesmart:
Just 2 states in south west but he donated to the whole 4 states of southeast. Now it's obvious why Igbos love Jonathan even though he's an ineffectual buffoon.

5 states point of correction grin

Abia, IMO, Anambra, Enugu, Ebonyi

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Politics › Re: COVID-19: Goodluck Jonathan Donates Palliatives To 20 States (list) by Vanzcharles(m): 10:12am On Jul 04, 2020

MrFixIt007:
Na now you know the importance of giving helping hands to the people when u don comot from seat? Abeg eeeeeee Waka! Yeye dey smell. Now u can give gifts to 20 states, meanwhile when u were in power, not even your own state saw bread and groundnut from you.

Oboy no reason am you be from Bayelsa? Good luck do something boys no one work na thuggery dey sweet 4 belle

Crime › Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Vanzcharles(m): 4:35pm On Jun 30, 2020

Chris525:
Vanzcharles

You stated earlier that every cult group needed a story/folklore to start up, one that will instill fear in new initiates. Please whats the story for PC, SEC, SVC, BAN etc.

Also every information on Charles Kokoma was expunged out of bl.ack a.xe when it was time to register it as NBM. This was the patron's idea as adding Charles' name & with the story already out would amount to admitting to murder on public & legal records. Back then they even had an LP on him.

However, I do not wish to pursue this argument any further. If you insist Charles & Janet are folklore, then thats okay. We agree to disagree I guess.

Nope we disagree to agree...
Its okay if you insisted tho.. Let's not disturb ourselves over vain talk as most present members has lost the ideas or don't know what its about... We learn from each other
Besides that....
Its a long time ago, let's say that is NBM way of life as far as the story was concerned. African Youth Empowerment (AYE) they say what are the present leaders impacting to the youths??..
What they do today is that once it goes bad they disassociate themselves from the campus body, yet their Zonal Bodies collects dues from the Temples under zones and remit it to the National Council... Davido paid a very huge amount to Osun Zonal body as blending fee.. A movt now filled with thieves and extortioners... Especially the former NH...that delta Man
All fraternities are no longer what they seem to be again and it is sad to say" cultism can not be eradicated "

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Crime › Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Vanzcharles(m): 3:26pm On Jun 30, 2020

25tolife:
bro, is it normal for an svc to anchor a sec member?...i want to confirm something.

Nope they dont believe the same ideology.. This random friends can greet and whose greetings should they submit to??
Unless they go with the peace greeting normal street greeting.. Its done differently

Crime › Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Vanzcharles(m): 3:22pm On Jun 30, 2020

Chris525:
Vanzcharles

Folklore? The ones who died after Charles & Janet were folklore too? Do you know those two are said to be the first BKB deaths & how NBM became so feared? Do you know one reason NBM was setup was to checkmate PC in Uniben? They came to fight. Ask any serious NBM person, the price for betrayal is beheading. If Charles' beheading was folklore, so when did it start?

Let me share a story:

An important member of NBM repented some years back. He confessed all his sins but muddled up his cult affliation. No mention of the cult he was actually a strong member of. People who are not in the know will say they heard it from the horse's mouth but the horse wasnt truthful in that instance.

My point is with these guys you must always crosscheck their stories.

The person who didnt turn up was Tokunbo Brown, the patron Prof. changed the name from Bl.ack ax.e men to Neo-black movement.

Like I said earlier, NBM was birthed to control the excesses of PC in the institution then. Before 1977 PC were the major runners of school activities as they were mostly found as members of the students council and also shared ties with the school authorities. PC members were those days were seen as mini gods who were above laws because they were in many vital positions in the school system..
With this advantage, PC exerted full control over the students council and common men (students) they moved about unchallenged in the school beating up students who crossed their paths, attacking common students at the slightest altercation..these they did because they controlled almost the helm of affairs. Note: it was not also at the university of Benin that they exerted this power, they exerted this power in other universities that they were present in due to their high numbers.
Imaging those days waking up and leaving your hostel then you find a fellow students tied to a tree naked or only on his boxers and a note written above him "anyone who attempt to free him incurs the wrath, We are watching" he would be left there for a day without any intervention not even from the students council because PC in Uniben them control the school system.

It was at this that Nicholas Idemudia birthed the ideology and spoke to the fellow FF then, they came up after several meetings and finally came up with the idea. NBM was Birthed in the 1977/78 academic session. FF then pictured the PC and school authorities as the colonial masters and they the students as the SA.. At that point they likened what they faced to that of the Apartheid movt in SA. Came up with the ideology of controlling the excesses of PC in the institution. That was the ideology NBM was birthed on.
The idea of Charles kokoma was a folklore by the FF and their initiator from UI to instill fear and discipline in the mvers who wants to be part of the movt not to betray that was among the reasons right from the inception of NBM procession there was a coffin in order to make it look more serious though as at then they just did it with little faith..lol.. The idea still works today as many people because they wanted it to work.
The reason for the presence of the coffin also was to signify the black mam has buried fear and embraced death as a cause to freedom... The coffin alone shook the whole school and pc on one of their open procession..
Charles kokoma was never a person in the movt. NBM never had connection with women called Janet all these were folktales just to warn the younger generation not to toil with the interest just as our fathers tells us this..
In NBM creed if you betray the movt you must be de-axed but it is not so today, nature took its cause as new members keyed into what they were told.
Most of the fraternity we had today were built on solid ideologies but things have gone more carnal and its no longer what it used to be.
I would like to stop here I don't want to probe further...
I just want to explain your last message
Note: Tokunbo Brown was the first right hand of NBm in 1977/78.. While the one who conceive the idea was an ihazar aside Godwin Ehigator (reasons tho)
All of them who joined were automatically office holders as they were assigned roles.
Marvel akpoyibo was a left hand and tokunbo brown was a right hand for just two months

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Crime › Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Vanzcharles(m): 2:47pm On Jun 30, 2020

Chris525:
Vanzcharles

Folklore? The ones who died after Charles & Janet were folklore too? Do you know those two are said to be the first BKB deaths & how NBM became so feared? Do you know one reason NBM was setup was to checkmate PC in Uniben? They came to fight. Ask any serious NBM person, the price for betrayal is beheading. If Charles' beheading was folklore, so when did it start?

Let me share a story:

An important member of NBM repented some years back. He confessed all his sins but muddled up his cult affliation. No mention of the cult he was actually a strong member of. People who are not in the know will say they heard it from the horse's mouth but the horse wasnt truthful in that instance.

My point is with these guys you must always crosscheck their stories.

The person who didnt turn up was Tokunbo Brown, the patron Prof. changed the name from Bl.ack ax.e men to Neo-black movement.

Crime › Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Vanzcharles(m): 1:57pm On Jun 30, 2020

Saltzman00:
lol brother both pyrates buccaneers Vikings and sec uses the same anchoring mood the only difference is the movement of the thumps with signifies different meanings okay..pc=They place the thump in between the other persons thump and finger .
Buccaneers =buries the thump(facing down)in between the other persons finger .
Vikings=the both thumps meets but the thump is bent face backwards.
Sec=the both thumps meets but The thump faces forward....
I only know what the movement of the thumps of pyrates and buccaneers mean....(as an ex member )

Guy u are still mixing it up.. Vikings anchor with their thumps upwards.. Buccaneers anchor with their thumps downward... SEC claws..its n this clawing that their thumps takes the shape of a bird.. As a birds leg scratching the other thump upward as a sign of greeting or landing.

Crime › Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Vanzcharles(m): 1:51pm On Jun 30, 2020

Accountability:
Both false, the handshake in that image was adopted by SVC, their street offshoots&few tertiary institution cult groups. SEC handshake/claw is almost same as that on the pix but the thumb is bent forward at right angle to touch the recipients' own. Tho some SEC members don't get it right&keep shaking/clawing with SVC handshake/anchor.

That's what I wanted to say, he mixed it up

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Crime › Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Vanzcharles(m): 1:30pm On Jun 30, 2020

Chris525:
Cultist like to say "Who no go, no know" but a lot of them dont know much about the history of their society, they only know about the lingos, drilling & hits.

Let me talk about NBM for instance. NBM was created by 10 founders but their history says 9 because the others killed the missing one - Charles Kokoma for betrayal - BKB. It is suspected that he helped brew the first NBM rum - NBM drink is called Kokoma.

NBM drilling is called Janetting. Janet was the gf of one of the founders, she betrayed NBM & died when she was being drilled, I suspect she was Charles' gf.

For these deaths, the first temple FJ was called 'Murder temple' not Mother Temple as people call it now.

Do you know a Buccaneer did the first initiation for the founders of NBM before handing over to one of them? Do you know that the founders thought about Brothers of Barracacans before picking the name Bla.ck Ax.e Men - BAM. Thats how the word 'bamming' came about.

Btw, barracacans is another name for vikings, lol.

Charles kokoma was never a person in NBM. He was just used as a figure of someone who betrays the temple that was beheaded, its just Like a folk tale in NBM. The founding fathers of NBM.. Were originally 10 but on the initiation day only 9 showed up.
The person who headed their initiation was from university of ibadan.. He was a bucket.
The then patron of the movt was prof. Owoh ojukwu, a prof of history and anthropology uniben...
Every movement needed a story as a head start so then they came up with one using Charles kokoma and janet story this story was passed to new initiates after them to instill fear and discipline.

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Crime › Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Vanzcharles(m): 11:45pm On Jun 28, 2020

ICEBOUND:
I now see why everybody is saying the same thing about you. You talk too much, I hope you don't get into trouble with all these things you think know when you don't actually know anything. You said I'm not too correct, but for your mind, 48 means someone that is not a Viking abi?. So according to you wey be the first man wey sail the Viking ship in Nigeria, once you're not a Viking, you're a 48 abi?. Continue, we're all listening.

he say 48 na non viking.... E funny sha he talk say u no too correct..
48/dju...... Vikings way of referring to non initiate ( never bam any movt)..
So dju and coloured dju na d same thing na grin

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Romance › Re: I Just Found Out Something Shocking About Buhari On Nairaland by Vanzcharles(m): 10:43am On Jun 28, 2020

President Buhari

Food › Re: "Ofe Akwu" (Igbo Version Of Banga Soup) In Five Easy Steps by Vanzcharles(m): 3:46pm On Jun 27, 2020

Burnguveren:
No be banga be this. If you chop urhobo or Kwale own with better starch. You no go call this one banga.

Oga why u dey brag abt food again, every region has a special way of preparation

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Food › Re: "Ofe Akwu" (Igbo Version Of Banga Soup) In Five Easy Steps by Vanzcharles(m): 3:41pm On Jun 27, 2020

GuyWise101:
Nne, you dey enjoy ooo

But what if you buy already made red oil than going to the process of pounding palm fruits wouldn't it work?

Lol.. Why not Just get your yams ready after using red oil...

Celebrities › Re: 'I Didn't Know Hushpuppi To Be A Criminal' - Daddy Freeze Replies His Critics by Vanzcharles(m): 3:18pm On Jun 27, 2020

He doesn't know, but he will put his mouth in tithe and offering of pastors that he doesn't know about ... Rubbish hypocrite

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Science/Technology › Re: Dolphins Migrating Through Dolphin Estate, Lagos Caught On Camera By Fishermen by Vanzcharles(m): 11:52am On Jun 27, 2020

tompat86:
U don join us dey book space

Leave am ooo.. E dey find space were im go add preaching for here

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Crime › Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Vanzcharles(m): 11:37am On Jun 27, 2020

25tolife:
seconded

Guy check am, nothing like true Christian anything. Before Anybody join cult dem bn no dey Go church. Anyone wey b Christian wey join cult no b true Christian, why una dey judge case like this. .. He was lured and just say his faith was weak he was not deep rooted in christ. He was shallow and allowed fear to grip him. Likewise anyone who was initiated beyond their choice.
The fear of leaving the cult group. Haven't you seen cases of student pastors or even realtime pastors who were strong in the lord now backsliding.. Engaging in formication and the rest, why is cultism own different..
Some get initiated as true Christian then they begin to deviate due to peer pressure, hope you understand me.

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Crime › Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Vanzcharles(m): 11:27am On Jun 27, 2020

swankyshank:
The guy wasn’t a true Christian all along... or the story is embellished.

For the Benue aiye that was alternating between being a pastor and Kpoai, decoy is not a new strategy in navigating confraternity activities.

But for a true Christian, someone confident enough to be openly preaching from place to place, to be forcefully initiated (very possible) and then he just suddenly switches (nothing other than the forced initiation being the trigger) and start to carry the runs for head to the point of pulling H.I.T and getting mapped for tracking till he was killed... the ‘cut and join’ for the tori no neat.

Oga wetin u dey argue, that guy was a pastor while head of NBM in Benue.. Na church boy right from tym b4 him join NBM.. We get plenty of them some where choristers in the church, some ushers and the rest.
Bishop wey dey na knack Egede nko... There was no tym he said he was involved in H.I.T...

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Romance › Re: Guys Sha by Vanzcharles(m): 11:19pm On Jun 26, 2020

2dice01:

The thing dey pain am

She wan make Dat guy pass through stress after every every she go com dey bill am if dem dey date..
The guy no wan stress himself u tell am no maybe u get another bobo so I'm no fit drag

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Romance › Re: Npower: Before Starting Your Registration, Please Read This! by Vanzcharles(m): 11:09pm On Jun 26, 2020

Abbeytherabbit:
Can undergraduates apply too?

Yes dont mind him, you apply as SSCE holder

Crime › Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Vanzcharles(m): 5:50pm On Jun 26, 2020

Sinistami:
Uyo is close to PH though and yes I've noticed this PH influence in the town because of mass influx of PH based students to University of Uyo. But to me Uyo is still very very peaceful despite what you said about 40 cult gangs in the city. When I first arrived I was shocked I could walk around by 12 am without anybody telling me who goes there? Unlike my home state Bayelsa.

Guy uyo dey calm man u no GI fit compare sm to BY, Cally or PH.. Wetin those small cult group wey I talk up to 40 cult gangs which na mostly secondary school dropout red skins, lions, white skin, e.t.c even Almighty vks dey do na too loot jus nothing serious. Dem no get liver to craze like other areas wey I jus mention. The area I dey na nbm dey run am. NBM fit wear their cap or beret freely for their nothing dey happen

Crime › Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Vanzcharles(m): 5:45pm On Jun 26, 2020

LostAddict:
Aboy you don talk as e dey be. My guy wey run Aiye for school dat year go BY dey show him self, the bros no know say their face no show at all and that period NBM and Vikings been get RS for NDU (Egbesu HT) na so my guy dey come back for night with some of him jew friends, some men round them one drive them na so the manchi come dey echo Aye Axemen nobody fall out for am but the manchi come back school with one hand that year .

Egbesu HT don get cordination na... 4 NDU after dem go infinity go fall on BG like Dat wen dem dey flex

Crime › Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Vanzcharles(m): 10:54am On Jun 26, 2020

Sinistami:
You said it well. I school in Uyo but despite the KK presence there, Vikings face still show and even Cali too.

For uyo gee, vikings face show wella despite the presence of Klansmen, we still get Mafia presence wella, NBM na flex guys they to dey strong for my area dem dey pull hit wella.. Within uyo u go get like 40 cult gangs just like red skins, lions, white skin,e.t.c other minute factions of vk, Iceland. They adopted this norm from PH.

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Crime › Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Vanzcharles(m): 11:10pm On Jun 25, 2020

Passionate888:
Deebam/Klansmen

You correct die shishi na mainly between Deebam and deewell. Klans and vikings. Iceland and Greenlands.
Aye wan get issue na with klans or vikings which is rare. The other cult group na like junior cult tho I know wetin I dey talk less dem jurist , mafia, maphite, BF e.t c

Crime › Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Vanzcharles(m): 11:08pm On Jun 25, 2020

Passionate888:
I don't know where you get your info from, but no need to argue with you about NBM prescence in Uniport.

Oga NBM dey PH but dem dey on d low because of the high numbers of other various cult group. Plenty cult groups dey rivers which one u dey find e plenty die. Most if them are factions of Vikings confraternity..
Ayes wey dey pH no to dey show 4 background.. Only on few occasions.

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Romance › Re: People That Have Growers Penis. How Do You Feel? by Vanzcharles(m): 3:55pm On Jun 25, 2020

Kccheechy:
Bros take am easy with the lies Na Haba!!! How can your penis be like a baby's own when Flacid and then 10 inches when erect?? Your penis na spring??

Crime › Re: My Story As A Cult Member........initiation Phase Included... by Vanzcharles(m): 3:00am On Jun 25, 2020

Gracebewithme:
Hi. Welcome back. I missed your posts. I have a few questions i reserved for you

1. if you never shed blood, can you make it to the position of an axe head or the second in line?

2. Is Krf, the god of Ayes worshiped as an actual deity separate from God almighty or it’s just a monicker or an Alias for the supreme God above.

3. I know axemen who are choristers, instrument players and active church goers. If krf is worshipped as a deity, how come they are able to pray in church coupled with all the charms and what not without falling under the anointing of God?

4. I can’t stand the sight of blood. I start to feel woozy at the sight of a deep cut. For those who kill, do they have more tolerance for gore or are they exactly like me but get used to it over time?

5. How come the spirit of rivals killed never attack the killers?

6. Is there any confirmation to the cult groups that their gods exist? Eg. A sign, dreams, visions etc. If no then why are they still revered

For your number 2 & 3 questions... If Korofo is a deity for the ayes before enthronedbyGod comes to answer it.
It is believed that Korofo was a medium the Yoruba's used to communicate with God.
Korofo Awo Aja Ile…..This Is Found In Yoruba Traditional Religion. For you To Understand This You Have To Understand A Bit About The Ifa Oracle...

Korofo Awo Aja Ile Means Korofo The Cult Of The Underground. This Is A Cult Of Ifa Priests And Their Job Is To Consult Ifa...

Ifa Is The Oracle…..Korofo Consulted Ifa Oracle Because Yoruba People In Antiquty Wanted To Know If God (Olodumare) Could Die. Ifa Replied That God Is Not A Man And So Cannot Die..

Korofo Awo Aja Ile Is A Group Of Ifa Priests Who Consulted The Ifa Oracle About The Life Span Of Olodumare. Ifa Told Korofo That Olodumare Who Is God Can Never Die And Has No Lifespan...

In Reality Korofo Awo Aja Ile In The -movement Are The Ifa Priests Who Are In Regular Fellowship With The Chief-priests Nbm.

So in NBM the chief priest relates with Korofo who are believed to be an underground cult of IFA priests who consult the Oracle to relate with God.
So there are no more IFA priests therefore, the chief priest relates with Korofo who relates to God.
As you can see this, understanding from thus perspectives NBM can be called a different religion as they believe in God through Korofo just as Christians believe in God through Jesus and Muslims believe in God through Mohammed.

I hope this answer the questions.

Enthroned by God can add to this and answer the rest.

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Business › Re: Igbos In Cross River Shut Down Shops Over Kidnapping Of Their Brothers by Vanzcharles(m): 1:25am On Jun 24, 2020

blissmandate:
how can sensible man go to that sad least region of OSU that OSU themselves runaway from. iyanmiris must leave Yoruba land by fire by force.

You didn't make sense at all.

Business › Re: Igbos In Cross River Shut Down Shops Over Kidnapping Of Their Brothers by Vanzcharles(m): 3:29am On Jun 23, 2020

sesan85:
South Africans and Americans don't flee from their homelands in their millions like homeless refugees and mendicant gypsies like Igbos. Non-Igbos don't run to Igboland for greener pastures in their millions like foreigners run to South Africa and America. Silly comparism?

What about the Chinese? Are they poor?
We have them everywhere./ Guy if person do business and e dey pain you go im land go rent shop go do business. Igbo ppl na your wahala shey..
Let me school you on why we have disintegration among the Igbo folks. Igbo tribe is mainly known for their business activities and mindset. Now one of the factors of business in economy is location and competition. In order for them to meet up the market standard, they would move out of a geographical area to another area so as to meet up the market demands.
That way they tend to grow in that place in population with time. Unlike other tribes who practice farming they tend to stay in their homeland without moving an inch or save themselves the stress.
We should just understand why the Chinese companies move towards other countries to sell their products.
You can't easily find other tribes in igbo land because they have nothing to do there as the only supportive business to thrive is trading and they are not traders. So they may be good in farming, fishing, educational wise e.t.c. West were more bent on going to school that is why their leaders where quick to bring institutions here in western land. Their children did not have to travel out of the land.
This just explain why you see the Igbo tribe every where. 'Their nature of buying and selling'
So I think you should think beyond tribalism and understand that no one flees his home when one changes or location. Unless you also say all Nigerians in diaspora flee their homeland like refugees because we have a lot of Nigerians in Diaspora. UAE we have high number of Nigerian Muslims.. I know that very well and they did not flee their homeland. Unless you are in your village searching through nairaland. Less what you said was baseless.

Christianity Etc › Re: Reno Omokri Writes About Wedding, Christianity And Church by Vanzcharles(m): 6:23pm On Jun 20, 2020

Righteousness89:
Not completely correct!

A Marriage needs to be Blessed! Someone who stands as a Representative of GOD needs to Bless the Marriage. E.g Pastor, priest, etc

GOD ALMIGHTY in the Beginning Blessed Adam and Eve..

Gen 1:28..

The Blessings spoken to a couple is important!

All the other things are not really important!

Guy no dey bring dz ur scriptural talk come here.. No try twist bible for us na d same we dey read.
He us correct must it be done in a church? Or mosque? A priest or pastor or imam can do it anywhere. We should not go to the church man complicated things so much. Our parent gvs us blessings tho..

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