₦airaland Forum

obaaderemi:
Is that the name of your dog.

Nah that is the moniker of your slayer whom you have indirectly and directly called many time here. Don't be too stupid to tell vaxx you have suddenly forgot how you are tamed and bring to heel by questioning your puterfy inteligence and fester mind.... . Vaxx can still play with you obawonidiot.....

budaatum:
We are talking about the light in Genesis, Shepherd. Unless your[b][b] point is "let there be light" and "there was Jesus"?[[/[/b]b]

budaatum:
You know I've always been openminded. Reading books tends to do that to one. You read one, you believe it, you read another that opposes what you believe so you dump it for a new belief, and after you've done that enough times, you'd pretty much learn that your beliefs would not withstand the next book you read so you just stop believing altogether.

You should hear jesusjnr trying to take credit for my supposed conversion.

but you have really done well, so can you now tell me about your new faith?

It seems budaatum is no longer an atheist......... If so my prophesy come true. Do you remmeber that thread budaa. You can't be open minded and still be an atheist. Impossible.

tylann:
Kenya is not a small country boy

And neither is Ghana, second largest country by population in west africa.

budaatum:
Well, since you were being a pedant about God creating, I figured, let me join you with Bible don't talk.

There was no "room" nor "drapes" nor "light switch" in the "formless and empty and darkness" before "let there be light"!

The source of the light already existed before but it could not yet enter the room until the drapes were opened. Hence, when the dark murkiness of the waters began to clear the light from the sun started penetrating the waters of earth. There came to be light. Unless you want to tell me the heaven too was dark and voild.

budaatum:
The Bible did not say anything since it can not talk!

It is written in the Bible that, "God said, 'Let there be light'". And for being the first to say it (according to the Bible at least), light was created by God.

well, that is figure of speech.Bible says ,bible talk. All these are meant to personify the bible.

According to bible itself in genesis, the earth was a dark water planet before the creation. So let there be light is like when you walk into a dark room that has no light at all within it and you tell someone to allow there to be light in the room and someone begins opening the drapes for Sunlight to enter the room through the sheer curtains of the windows. The source of the light already existed before but it could not yet enter the room until the drapes were opened.

The bible did not say God created light. The bible says let there be light . It is two different word.

dalaman:
Life can come from non living things. A seed is a none living thing but plants come from it. .

seed are 100 percent living thing, they are embedded with stored energy , just looking for where to begin their growth in a good condition. Stop subscribing to misconception . Get some botany book and read .

No fact based evidence to support that life can emanate from non living things, the hypothesis is very weak compare to the hypothetical condition that state life birth life

Lxdd:
Exactly. So requiring no proof doesn't mean they're not immutable.

because mathematics is based in its own assumption, And since axioms don’t change, every truth descending from them cannot change. In practice … it is self-constructed and self evident.

Actor and actresses. Hope they paid them well? There is hunger in the land ......

Lxdd:
*require no proof*

Yes it is the starting assumption and such has no proof unless you want to enter into infinite regress of explanation.

triplechoice:
I think it would be difficult for those who have come to see witchcraft as real to accept it is psychological manipulation

I also doubt if your post would make any sense to such persons. Your explanations are way beyond what most people in this environment can comprehend and accept . What they know about witchcraft comes from the misinformation and lies peddled by those masquerading as men of God and some fraudsters claiming to be spiriitualist

There was a time I was almost a victim of such manipulation but for a knowledgeable man I ran to who had a perfect understanding of what I was experiencing then, I am sure I would have been undone by it. He made me to see that it was not real. Although, initially I found difficult to accept his simple explanation but some days later the realization of the truth of what he told me dawned on me and the experience ended just as it came

Since that time, more than twenty years ago I have been avoiding any environment that would expose me to such experience. These include Churches, spiritualist, and superstitious people. They really do not know the problems they may have created or are creating for some persons

People have been left mentally confused some have committed suicide or contemplating it. Once an individual comes to fully accept that he or she is under witchcraft attack and believes it is real, the 'nightmare' would not end if their is no way to understand what is actually happening. Going to prayers houses and meeting people who lack understanding would only help to reinforce the illusion.

So disheartening. But this is true, and in all honest, There is no such thing as witchcraft or magic spells. We can see the dangers of believing in such things. It is obvious, in the Democraric rebublic of Congo for instance, many several children have undergone exorcism due to Christian pastors claiming that the children are witches and that a ceremony must take place which cost the parents around fifty U.S. dollars each (which is 1/3 of a year's income for most). The children are then tortured, often with hot candles leaving burn marks for life, not to mention the psychological damage. This was well documented by various international news channels at the beginning of the decade.

What we see immediately in the videos is that though they are using the Christian framework, the ceremony, customs, and psychology originate from the local indigenous superstitions. What we also see is that there is a combination of physical damages to children and hefty financial exploitation of the naive.

The Christian, Muslim and the fake traditionalist propagating this concept are automatically creating a fearful population that will hurt anyone (including children) they see as a source of this and pay anyone they believe can save them from this.


Just watch the brutish character of this so called ""God of men""






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzM2f5eTe38

Lxdd:
No oo.. Give example of an axiom that you think has no proof

Why don't you read up. Axioms are self evident , it can't be proven because it require no proof. Mathematical proofs are based on axioms...

CodeTemplar:
Before you derail this into a personal warfare against me, I like to ask, why the traditional system and their gods or gods of the land couldn't inspire victory against the white man in their own backyard when it was being colonized?
Why lose the battle to an "inferior" religion?

same way Christianity conquered European paganism(militaristic and marketing strategy in the name of missionary) so was Spain and Portugal a complete Christian country turning to Islamic province under the leadership and governorship of islam for noting less than 1000 years...... So what is the big deal?

And if you must know, african spirituality particularly ifa spirituality is growing, Venezuela in southern America just recently launched a dedicated holiday to honour ifa celibration.


Some mullato and white group had launched a building dedicated to ijo orunmila ( the religion of orunmila) which aim to spread ifa spirituality.

Ifa will not campaign itself, the nature will campaign for her.

CodeTemplar:
hunger after a God with results. Look at our political system today. Filled with idol worshippers and we are bad for it.

The son which is a created from father and the ghost we have 3 in one human being who is also physical and created. So you dont see that as classic idol worship.

Lxdd:
My post was suppose to say "observe at the particle level(microscopic)"

so what are you driving at now, if i can understand.

Lxdd:
No, don't think so. But one question; sure you've heard of Heisenberg's Uncertain principle, if God really watches over all we do, assuming he also observes at the particle, shouldn't we get the same wave function when we observe a particle??

The uncertainity theory clearly states that it is only applicable to micro particles. And not macro particles , we too can also apply macroscopic. Therefore our position and velocity can be calculated simultaneously.

correctguy101:
This vaxx sef, just ignore some kinda comments na.. ...

On the bolded, could you shed more light on those?

Especially, the "there's no such thiing as magic spells, and cultivating divine philosophy".

And please help me understand why you say rituals don't work and theres been numerous cases of ritual related crimes in the country....


Leave dat guy and answer better person jor

on the matter of divine philosophy...

Ifa is the Wisdom of Olodumaré as a way of life. It must be practiced in every thing you do To be an aborisa (avatar of orisha), you have to LIVE IT.

A true devotee of the orisa exposes their devotion in the name they give themselves, in the clothes they cover their sacred bodies with, in the language they communicate to their community with, in the food they nourish their bodies with, in the values they organize their society with, in the tools they educate their children with, the places they chose to gather in, the medicine they heal their bodies with, and the ancestral wisdom they empower their minds with. You must be so full of Ifa, that you bleed Ifa.


On the matter of magic.

Orunmila's teaches are explicit that the only "witchcraft" that exists is psychological. This is powerful if you are susceptible but it is not actually witchcraft. They caste spells on you thru your psychology by exposing you to self-destructive images meant to subliminally induce fear and panic. This is why you should control the images you let people expose you to (especially from the media and their school system). This is the only way they enter your mind and influence you; not "witchcraft."

MuttleyLaff:
This was for last year December nau

so it is over. There must have a been a free supply suya there

Will there be kelechi and burukutu?

Awesomefred32:
Dressing = zero
dancing = zero
Ugly= 100%

are sure that the lady is from Germany?

patapaa was with her in Germany last two month

CodeTemplar:
Whichever one suits your lies.

who promote more lies here. You, your bible or your pastor or europoid religion you subscribed to? Anyway colonized slave fit you better.

CodeTemplar:
Mr brain user use your mind.

SHOULD I called you mental slave agent or colonized slave? Which one is more preferable?

What you guys don't realised is , he is creating his own style. His kind of music might not be the best but this guy will make wave with his comic brand and energetic creativity.... I love those who do it differently.


Patappaaa. Ready for afcon



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GTivyKUh90

""The teacher who is indeed wise does not bid you to enter the house of his wisdom but rather leads you to the threshold of your mind"".
Khalil Gibran

Now A thought to those who apply critical thinking




If a shell or nut could tell you what decisions to make, then why haven't we made the right decisions to become a powerful race again as afrika? This is because good decision making doesn't come from divination, it comes from long term experience and insightful analysis in juxtaposition with the teachings of the Odu Ifa.

Alas, it is because we have neglected using strategic moves based on critical analysis of our predicament that we have not elevated out of it. We don't need to practice "witchcraft" and "magic spells," we need to train a race of physicists and engineers, that's the "magic." We understand Olodumare not through mystifying Him, but by studying him through the science of his patterns in nature: chemistry, biology, etc.

CodeTemplar:
These lie lie people again. All those Ifa and stuff all fall under satanic or dark power powered expoits.

i need those who used their brain and not their brainwashed mind.....

The Odu Ifa( it is a sacred scripture intended to provide wisdom about the 256 conflicts that occur in life. In this way, it does provide solutions. However, specific yes or no answers to unique questions such as should I marry this person, take this job, etc, are not determined through divination; they are deciphered from analyzing the Odu Ifa, which has been available for a while now, which has right teachings about situations which will help you determine the right move.

sacrifices or ebo riru ( it is what decision you need to make in your life. This is far more real than ritual sacrifices told to you by a diviner; it is here that you remove aspects of your life that are holding you back from moving forward. You determine this from meditation on truth, not an oracle.

THE TRUTH OF ALL SITUATIONS LIVES IN OUR HEARTS, NOT IN A BOOK, PRIEST, OR ORACLE. YOU ALWAYS HAVE ACCESS TO IT. YOU KNOW IT WHEN YOU FEEL IT. THIS TRUTH IS YOUR CONSCIENCE, IT IS THE VOICE OF GOD LIVING IN YOUR BEING.

I created this page to counter the lies going on this section by one guy who called himself orunmila .he is propagating lies and propaganda. Using the name of Orisa as a source of validation to dish out superstitious magic spells, fortune telling, and ritual. I wonder why no one is speaking out against it.

The true value of ifa spiritual system is a logically-based spirituality of the mind and the universe.

Now let me list what people are continually misunderstanding :

Esu( pls esu is not a trickster, there is no "trickster" god in Orisa spirituality. He is a symbol of the choices WE make at the crossroads, he does not make any choices for us.

witches. There is no such thing as magic spells. Rituals have no power if you don't understand the symbolism of the elements being used. In this way, the symbolism can have power in cultivating divine psychology, but this is not magic. Most importantly, the orisa are not spirits running around outside of you that you pray to or placate. They are parts of your existence that you nourish like you nourish the organs of your body for good health.



I shall update this later.. ..

plaetton:
The laws of mathematics that underpine natural phenomena are rigid and immutable.
Any ideas of God , or whatever one chooses to call it, that falls outside the confines of the rigid laws of mathematics are nothing but fantasies.

This will have been so, but unfortunately there exist some article online which address this better than i can do. One is “Anything Can Change, Even an Immutable Law of Nature” (New York Times) and “Are the Laws of Nature Changing with Time?” (Physics World.). These articles generally concern whether certain physical parameters really change or not.

You can read up online.

plaetton:
What exactly are you talking about?

The laws of nature are immutable.

Human ideas about that laws of nature have been evolving over time with new scientific discoveries. It is not the laws that are changing or improving, as you put it. It is our understanding of the laws.
For example, not long ago in your village, people believed that thunderstorms and floods were caused by an angry God or gods. For those people, that was the laws of nature at work.
Now we know better.
Many fools still believe that accidents are caused by blood-sucking demons. Well, needless to say that we know better.

You actually quote me out of point, basically neglecting my contribution. Your first question will have been enough.


By human understanding, our nature changes as we get to explore new observation which may contradict what we already know about the universe. The universe itself is not CHANGING(This is also debatable) but human perspective which are continuously improving base on our current understanding. I have explain this with Johnny.

Philosophically, the law of nature would vary along with human beings' understanding. From Newton's three physical laws to Einstein's theory of relativity, the law monitoring the universe is changed.

Scientifically it ls assumes that the current laws of physics did not apply [in the period immediately following the Big Bang]. They took hold only after the density of the universe dropped below the threshold.