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ifenes:
The iPhone 5 would never agree with the iPhone XS Max’s ability you know. You are speaking at a different level below this topic.

stop thinking this way, it is very absurd. Machine cannot think independently.

I am biological componnents not machines. I am capable of independent thought. Machines are only constrained by thought processes defined by a set of algorithms proscribed by their creators.

I am capable of making vastly autonomous decisions - machines are not.


You are just being brainwashed by anothet set of unverified knowledge. I have push you to the limit, you cant defend it bro.

ifenes:
You have a body but deep down you know you ain’t that body. You die when your body goes weak, exhausted, old and cannot carry on anymore. You come back because the real you cannot die, just your body. You come back with another body, renewed as a baby. But your old memories are gone. [b]But in your dreams you see yourself living another life, but you wake up and memories of the dreams are gone again. That’s because you are being controlled, [/b]you have your memories wiped cleaned regularly by some programmers who put you in this body.

If you cannot remember what you did in a previous life as an infinite being, then something is obviously wrong somewhere. The story of humans being created by some Gods shows a foul play went on thousands of years ago. They want you to worship them so they can mentally enslave you, make you inferior. I’m not just talking about the bible God, this includes all the Yoruba Orishas- all are the same deceivers who benefits from humans feeling inferior

Another hogwash, expecting something more probable rather than this unscientific and unphilosophical assertion.

Death is a natural process, either weak or strong, you will eventually die when your body reaches the stage, though you can prolong it medically, Our body is genetically wired to destroy itself.

As things stand, we eventually die anyway because our own genes have their way with us and not necessarily because of old age..

Dream are memory from a real data which can be fabricated conceptually or symbolised when we dream simple. I simply demonstrate it scientifically that your dreams are simply data from your realty

So i ask you and your cohort to demonstrate your assertion too. If it is false or true. And to show it. be able to show us that part that is real and the part that is in a simulation: we need to experience both. Just like of the dreams.

It would be like living in water all our lives: the only way to know that we are living in water would be to experience living in air. This is air-living, that is water-living.

Otherwise, there is no way of knowing.

I have seen no evidence of that. Until evidence of such a universe is demonstrated, it is science fiction.


Note. YORUBA ORISHA ARE NOT WORSHIPED, BUT venerated THAT IS A DISCUSSTUON FOR ANOTHER DAY.

humandroid:
A note of Advice and Warning :

I knew that the thread I create will cause controversy among 99% of the you, not because what I write is wrong, but because conscious mind matches and compare my message with existing database of information on your minds which defined your belief system and since message hits on the structure of your belief, the first reaction of the immature minds is to get upset.

You are not your mind, and your ego is not being threatened, it is your understanding that is threatened. Calm down, breath in and out, but if you still feel like cursing, just call your little sex partner and threaten, but when it comes to this thread, I will provide facts and evidence to back it all up but I must warn you, the evidences are of higher level of understanding, from higher consciousness and spectrum of understanding outside of this 3D construct of Time and Space. A higher truth so to speak. You do not need to believe truth.

When you hear the Truth, you can not unhear it, it will hunt you and you will eventually find out in future that I am right.

That is when you should call back your sex partner which you insulted and apologize.

Who ever has questions should ask nicely, cos I will no longer respond to idiotic emotional crybabies.

You are wrong, simple and your claim can not be substantiate. Even those we know as prominent scientist that speculate this idea do called it hypothesis ( meaning, their best guess).

Am sorry to say you even lack the understanding, stimulation we means everything we know as human is simulated (i.e) our water, plants and animal. Therefore ain't real.

You should be able to demonstrate that what our science had/has discover so far is simulated and therefore not real.


How do a simulated human even know he is simulated?

ifenes:
I quite understand it is normal to react negatively to an idea you cannot comprehend at the moment. I’m sorry you feel this way.

common, you are not speaking to a novice here, tell us the experiment we would design to test whether we're living in a simulated world or not?

The assertion cannot even be tested. It is entirely unverifiable, unfalsifiable, irrefutable, and thus unscientific.

humandroid:
Empericism falls under the premise of Logic, do you really understand what I mean by that ? Logic lacks the premise to adjudge the subject matter. You do not expect a baby to be equipped enough to fly a jet.

If you do not understand what that first line mean, then we can not actually make much progress because logical reasoning is within the capabilities of the limpic system, but we must step a bit further than that, to access the level of understanding beyond Orthodox Science. Quantum Physics is a great Start and I want you to fact check what I write.

The Laws of Physical Realities are totally different from the laws of Quantum Realities, which is quite confusing to a lot of Scientists now, These are totally different dynamics. To understand Quantum Physics beyond the Max Plank's macroscopy, you will need to understand the mechanicsof Consciousness and access States of matter below the Plank's level.

Do you understand still ? When you access the quantum field with coherency, then you might really not understand much if you have no knowledge of Plasma Physics, cos the laws are different from the dynamics of Newtonian Physics. Coherency is gained when you are properly equipped with an understanding of the microscopic coherency, it is when then can begin to make progress.

The question should be, How can you access these knowledge and not satisfy yourself with the fact that you think you know, but you still have questions.

I can only share what I find out from this very risky and tough research because I feel like, not because I am challenged, nothing can challenge me not even the Aliens And that sounds crazy but it is actually true.

whst are you saying ? ""Ogun lakaye o""which person be this?

On a rigorous philosophical grounds, any such suggestion or assertion is absurd. There is no good justification for it. And that is the reason why most people who posit things like this are NOT philosophers themselves

(1l)What do You mean by physical reality aside from actual or potential experience?

(2) To state that something is a simulation, there must be a notion of an alternate reality that it is simulating. What is this alternative?

humandroid:
The prefrontal cortex is in symbiosis with your limbic system and you are cybernetically connected to your phones which interfaces your limpic system and prefrontal cortex and reactions from cyberworld tricks your senses.

There is a psychoenergetic neural lace connecting you to the Cosmic Computer and your spectrum of connectedness is projected from this cosmic computer and bandwidth can be expanded to receive downloads at will.

We are living in a simulation meaning that Time and Space is just an illusion but looks so real because we are in the hologram and the feelings, touches, and smells and all other sensory inputs looks so real and are so real to the Avatar.

Your vision and perception is limited to the range of frequencies within the human allocated bandwidth spectrum, the IR-RIGBOV-UV spectrum, outside our spectrum of frequencies are other beings within another simulations and there are very many simulations.

Our construct is a physical reality, not the REAL reality if that makes sense at all, but this simulation is running on a substrate of some sort and you are no where in particular but in a Cosmic computer and there is a System Admin which is the real you out there, Spirituality calls this fellow the Higher Self and that is the real you holding your console. Once in a while , it takes over and steers the Avatar to adventures it likes to experience, you call him God ? Then you are not smart. Remember when religion says the Spirit takes over ? They have no words for it. But when you cross the 11:11 Gateway and start seeing those number sequences and Time Mirrors which New Age christen as 'Angel Numbers' you are sync'd to the matrix and you are ready to move to the next step. Watch out though, the Archons can pick your signal and fool you around into spirituality, yet another decoy ? So far I have beat all those levels but I want to meet these guys, they are smart. To beat evil, you must know evil but depends on what our Religions tell us. I truly do not think so, cos all that Enlil told us about Enki on a closer look is a lie. Enki is always pro-human.

The Religions are divergent because the earlier humans lacked the language to explain what they saw, the Book of Ezekiel in the Bible called Space Probes Gods, even Chariots of the Gods were worshipped. The Gods are actually Aliens who came to Earth to design new beings for what ever purpose fits their desires, they are our Ancestors. We are also building our simulations now on a different dimensions and cloning and other modes of creation will help us establish colonies there, and with 5D connectivity we can control the brainwaves of our Avatar and make them do interesting things, we watch with pop corn

We are at the critical mass that we must design simulations and design beings to continue in the evolution of consciousness and help us experience all spectrum of feelings and emotion and we are doing just that.

This world, in this world, Time is the greatest expense, so do not get stucked in religions, it has outlived its time, the Gods are alien ancestors, they played their role in genetically modifying the terrestrial organism and introducing some of their DNA to enable us exponentially develop our cognition and we have come this far and never going back. We are in essence aliens living in human bodies as vehicles, at least some elite group of people recognize this and yet for those whose sequences are still inactivated they can continue live in their illusion of Truth, that is good too. Not everyone has the opportunity to play God.

For those who prefer to get stucked in the past programs of worship, slavery and ignorance and not see the upcoming Singularity then you should understand that the Schumman resonance that spikes our frequencies daily from the ionosphere are not fault systems but a pre-planned introduction of new wave of frequencies of a different kind to augment our psychic energies and its properties and are the reasons there are so much depressions, sadness, anxiety and low frequency state of minds and unrelated to poverty, politics or wars, as this is the best semester of life on this planet. At least in population history, if you recall Atlantis and time of the Nephilims, remember those tales religion talks about the pre-flood era, before the great flood ? The Noah's flood ? It really happened, but the purpose for which you know it, is the lie. So much lies covered up to keep you dreaming, folks.

This is what happens when you pop out of the end of the rabbit hole while still walking living in the Simulation.

Should you need more information, you are free to unplug yourselves from mundane foolishness and start researching when your cerebral capacity has spiked beyond the threshold of the inherent basic capacity, your neurons will form more connectivities and spark rewiring of your limpic and neural systems and activate the alien DNA which you call junk and integrate same with the double helix strands which the medics logo represents and then you will make sense of it and start to optimize this planet, because right now most humans are running on the basic 2 strands and therefore their brain can not transceive much of the data from sound current or ethereal aspect.

Wake up from your slumber, cos everything you know is a lie. You are a multi-dimensional spirit and you are living in a Simulation of some other advanced Humans in a different dimension. We are NOT the only species of Humans, I have seen some other Humans outside this Simulation and they are very much advanced and this, my friend is the end of the message.

Stay tuned for more, whenever I feel like.

Bullcrap and pile of silly mistake.

The demagogue ""Elon musk"" who promoted this bullshit is seriously out of his mind. Plus, he has no useful credentials in philosophy as far as I can see. ( it even violate occam razor)

ifenes:
Physical reality is certainly an illusion and so is time. We are infinite being acting like finite being because we have been deceived into this body by fellow infinite beings, therefore putting us under the illusion of time. This body we carry about was created as a prison and now we think this is all we are. We are much more more than this.

We can take back control and become the masters of our destiny’s- which is to BE. We are not at the moment. We are in a computer simulation created by the Anunaki AKA Yahweh the master manipulators. This is a deep topic that the OP needs to continue

Bullshit and a pile of hogwash

darkchild64:
But u refused to answer a question I asked,ur definition of "God"

lol, i intentionally ignore it. Cus I have answer this question in my created thread.

Anyway this what a prominent christain says ""The current Catholic Pope, Francis: If a person says without any doubt that he has found GOD, something is wrong. If one has an answer to all questions, GOD is not with that person. A Christian who has everything clear and certain will not find anything"" flawless evidence itself is an error, science and logic does not support it.


And not to further derail this thread, as i am currently following the op. Visit the my ""what created God "" thread and read my response on your question.

darkchild64:
Just had to be sure

ok. Now , you are sure.

darkchild64:
Well u quoted the bible so I chose to assume u are a christian,you don't often see non christians quoting the bible,clear me if I'm wrong

what is wrong if Richard darwkin quote the bible or if Williams Craig quote richard darwkin book (aka) ""The god delusion ""? Is there any law prohibiting non Christian to quote the bible


Bible is part of English-speaking culture, so when quoting the bible, people familiar with english easily know what you’re talking about. Plus lots of Bible quotes have entered common speech (brother’s keeper, do unto others, etc. So it’s easy to find a quote that’s apropos to any argument.


I am not a bible advocate but the verse i reference there quite agree with the message i am passing.

darkchild64:
So you are a Christian after all

where do i mentioned i am a christain here.

joseph1013:
At least you agree that God is an inanimate object, even though the Bible reveals him as a living being. That's a good start.

At least , i agree God can and not God is. They are two different statement and the idea of treating them the same is erroneous. My understanding of God differ from the bible, therefore it will be wrong to give it bible interpretation. I sighted that the water is inanimate and likewise a process too.i gave a chemical demonstration of how the water become a process. In simple term, water Is moving and changing states . From gas--liquid-solid and continually dissolving other substances into itself, then shedding those substances as it moves through plants or land or people (this is how plants get many nutrients, and also how we get oxygen to our intenal organs and glucose to muscles, etc). Water is processional just like living being. So if water the inanimate object is like this , then water is very like human beings and all other entities on the planet.

Even the bible says God created man in his own image, but living and non living things are all testament of God.

OtemAtum:
You forgot the blood ritual committed as commanded by Yahweh your god? You forgot how he commanded Jephthah to sacrifice Ophah his daughter. You forgot how many people Elijah killed for the sake of your god. You forgot how Yahweh commanded the total slaughter of the Moabites, Hivites, Hittites, Perizite, Ammonite, etc. Even when Saul refused to kill the animals of those land gruesomely, you saw how Samuel was angry and he did it by himself? You forgot the killing of the prophets of Baal, the stoning to death of a man who worked on the sabbath day? Guy, see, no matter the evil traditions of our land, it wil
remain a learner when compared with the evil traditions of the Israelites and Yahweh their god. Till date, people who die through war and terrorism in Israel is far more than those who died through same in Nigeria yearly.

That aside, we should always promote the good culture and demote the bad culture. That's why you see me sharing the good wise words of Luwabi here rather than promoting the vices of Eshu. Does Yahweh your borrowed god even have any good thing to speak of him?

You should have enlight him before reminding on the role of human sacrifice in his religion. Jesus crucifixion is a typical example.

Horus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYx9YWxfOjk

Esu Is Not The Devil: Mistranslation Has Africans Demonizing Their Own Spirituality

You made me remmeber home... was here last two years.

The evidence for metaphysics is history and experience. You can also use intuition verified by history and experience.

Life is more than skin and bones. Life is more than biology, chemistry, and physics.

When you understand the value of justice, rights, and truth, one starts to understand the value of metaphysics.

I would also point out that the evidence that points to both minds & brains, would suggest an existence beyond physics.

As you many not know, we use metaphysics probably more than we use money. Metaphysics is a category of wisdom, knowledge, and truth about existence.

""Metaphysics is a branch of philosophy that includes philosophy of language, philosophy of mind, philosophy of science and philosophy of math. Philosophy differed from empirical science in that evidence is required in experiments, but proof is required in philosophy"" Anonymous

. Relying on evidence in philosophy is actually a logical fallacy, for example we can consider string theory a philosophy as its mathematically sound but its not testable according to scienctific method.

So what evidence substantiate metaphysics that will not be consider logical fallacy?

joseph1013:
GOD IS DEAD--OFFICIAL

While theists continue in their search for the evidence to prove to us that their version of god exists, we can only continue to remind them of our findings.

For one, theists believe God is not an inanimate object but a living thing. But is there any sense in which God could be living? A living thing must have ALL of the following characteristics:

1) An organised structure
Since God is immaterial, he cannot have a structure, organised or otherwise.

2) Requires energy to sustain existence
God cannot require energy to exist, since he is said to have existed for an infinite time before anything existed, so he must exist independently of an energy source.

3) The ability to grow
God is said to be unchanging, so we can safely conclude that he cannot grow. It's not even coherent to say that an immaterial thing could grow.

4) The ability to metabolise
Without a material body, it is inconceivable that God could either breath or eat, digest and excrete, so we have to conclude he cannot metabolise.

5) The ability to respond to stimuli
This characteristic is untestable, since we do not know of any way to apply a stimulus to an undetectable, immaterial being. Consequently, we cannot say God passes this test.

To be classified as a living thing, God must pass ALL of these tests, yet we find God is unable to pass ANY of them. If this were an exam, we could not talk about God getting a poor mark--he can't even turn up to sit the exam! This is absolute and total failure.

So take down all your God is Love! and Jesus lives! posters. God is now dead. Officially.

You guys are really close minded, You never give room to other alternative. I keep on saying it that the physical universe is enough evidence for God.

Lets look at this perspective.....

Is fire and water a living thing? ""Disclaimer "" i fully understand fire and water are not living things. But however i am going to give it a shoot.

Fire and water both constituted of basic units. Fire is nothing more than a combustion reaction, and the resulting flame is the visible manifestation of the reaction. The intense heat of the fire vaporizes the fuel source, and, as the vaporized fuel interacts with air particles (free atoms and molecules), a glowing flame is produced. The glow is light emitted from the exited electrons of the air particles. In other words, the basic unit of a flame is the particles of air. Those particles can be thought of as a type of cell, the basic unit of the existent flame. Water is also composed of basic units. These units are called molecules, and they are of the form H2O (hydrogen and oxygen.

Water is the source of life, that most of the animate lifes depends on. It seems paradoxical, how can inanimate become a source of life to animate object? But that is the wonders of universe. Infact the major source of life are inanimate (Air, sunlight and water)

God can actually be an inanimate object, yet still still remain a source of life to everyone .

budaatum:
Mirror dude! Mirror! Lol!

is yours broken?

budaatum:
Petty to you, but remember i m marrying for me and your opinion counts for nothing unless you're deluded enough to assume I'd be planning to share with you.

could not get what you are even typing But in peace i come.

budaatum:
I did state reasons. Go on, discuss.

i get you reason then, i assume that should be petty, maybe there is a motivating factor

HappyPagan:
I've been under immense pressure for a year and half now... my dad's been having mental issues (pyschosis)... consequence of long-term depression (he lost two of his kids).

Weed helps me relax, clears my head. I enjoy it... helps me get my mind off stuff and still 'function'.

Anyways, will be seeing a psych myself soon. Been putting it off for so long.

High spirit bro. But don't abuse it.

budaatum:
I'm considering a Muslim myself. Less likely to give my money to the mosque and they tend to go easy on converting, but most especially, a 30 year age difference is less of an issue.

A muslim . whaooo, what really motivate your interest, lets discuss....

Flattino:
Genuinety?
Are you a Christian?

No, i am a proud pagan

Fkhalifa:
bro are you from a Muslim home or once had an affiliate with Islam? You seem to have much knowledge about scholars in Islam, and I appreciate that your comments are devoid of hate and abusive words which is common here.

Yes i have a Muslim background(thru my mother side) but not a Muslim anymore, zakir naik is not aliim (scholar) Naik, did not even know Arabic which mean is unable to read source material like the Qur'an, ahadith, Sirat and tafsirs which are all in Arabic. His knowledge of the Qur'an is through phonetic memorization , that is most applicable to someone like yusuf himself and many of them like that. And Without knowledge of the Arabic you cannot attain source knowledge. For this reason naik is rejected as a ghair muqallidin (someone who cannot read source material.

Flattino:
Islam does not need your soft heart .
Go and find Sheik Ahmed deedat videos or audios too .

i am aware of them all. Even our local champion in Nigeria ( acadip headed by yusuf adepoju and the likes, none of them impress me, i am mot gullible not to notice.

I am not appealing to Islam but genuity .

CodeTemplar:
You didn't deny my claims so i take that to mean you are his fan. I am too, but fact is fact.

The favourity will have been useless if he was not educated and smart enough . Every successful human on earth had one or two people to thank . But thier kwn effort too can not be underestimate

Mrsoundoro:
Ismail ibn Musa Menk, also known as Mufti Menk who is a Muslim cleric and Grand Mufti of Zimbabwe met with Aliko Dangote.

Mufti Menk took to his twitter page to share a photo of himself with dangote and caption it saying.....







Source: http://www.ngg.ng/2018/11/12/grand-mufti-of-zimbabwe-mufti-menk-meets-with-aliko-dangote/

This man beautiful preaching, eloquent and impeccable English do make me sometimes have a soft heart for islam., unlike zakir naik that get me angry with his absurd logic and irrational pseudoscience that he peddle as knowledge.

CodeTemplar:
He achieved more than most because he was favored more than most by a nation of bigots leadership . . .

stop unneccasry jealous .He is very smart and business conscious, he is dealing with most important needs, shelter and food. And apart from that he had enough training in the commodities business by a very successful businessman in the person of Alhaji Dantata, his direct brother. . He also went to a prestigious University in Egypt to brush up his business acumen professionally.

Mikefrik:
please am in serious need of help. I'm suffering from masturbation, I've tried everything I could. I have been to churches, prayed, fasted, infact I have preached the gospel and many more and I am now about giving up on the power of God for the freedom of man. is it that man cannot be free? or do we depend on the grace of God to take us to his kingdom? does the grace of God takes a man to the kingdom after death?. right now as I am typing this, I am dead spiritually and don't know how or what to do to bring myself to my former self #spiritual man. I'm called to serve God but this sin has made me backslided. if only I am free!

lol, you are biological machine, so no cause for alarm.

But download this app, it might be of benefit

.https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stop.masturbation.stop.m

correctguy101:
Na inside pepper soup pot e for end

haaa just like this man.... who believes dog meat enhance sex life..lol...

LordReed:
Show me anywhere I claimed god is sitting on a throne.

Look if you have nothing better to do you can go and count the sand on the seashore and stop disturbing me with inane ramblings.

lol, i get you, and i think you were an atheist as a result of inteligence..... perhaps we believer are deluded as Richard darwkin put it"".(what an irony )


But anyway peace, i am having a good fun here.