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Ranchhoddas:
Lol!

I am man of evidence and proof. I just don't rant my mouth just because I want my veiw to be heard


The foundation of that book( I mean the introduction) already open up the tendency to doubt it.

And ofcourse the book prove me right.........
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Ranchhoddas:
Dude stop lying
You did not read the book!

Negro. Stop claiming what you don't know, I read it. That is the screenshot and the time i downloaded it which was yesterday the day the op posted it.

budaatum:
You, unfortunately, do not quite qualify.

yes by budaatum standard that is rooted in fallacy.

Ranchhoddas:
Lol.

I had to Google that word to be sure I was not the one mixing things up.
You don't know the meaning of that word. In fact, I am not sure you opened a page of that book.

Just running your mouth all over the place.

You are free to open your mouth and splash it to wherever you decide.

I have a similar book with me. The Aquarian gospel of Jesus Christ and i have also go thru this as well.

There is no better description than to say the book is a complete sophistry.


Maybe you need to Google the word again....

budaatum:
I am very grateful to you for saving me the hassle of further responding to their nonsense.

Vaxx I can perfectly understand. Lately, if I post that the sun is in the sky, he would argue it's under the sea, but you LoJ!? I don't know you for making spurious claims so you surprise me!

stop being emotional. Vaxx dont derive anything from your blunder. If you make a reasonable point, no one will argue it.

You actually don't say the sun is in the sky, your post always sound like you mean the sky itself is the sun or the sun itself is the sky.

So a reasonable person . One needs to analyse your post for a better clearance so as to not swallow ignorance.

LoJ:
I do not want anything, I did not ask any question. I was addressing the question of Vaxx and bud's answer to it.

Mind you I have already read this book (in part) and well aware of the theories in it.


Back to the topic, when you present a book about the hidden years of Jesus, everybody takes it immediately for a historical account. It would have been simpler and easier in response to Vaxx to indicate that this account is not historical but mere legend and as such does not require evidence. Instead of talking about progression and regression which is mostly used by spiritual sophists.

That book is a strange blend of sophistry, superstition, and false historical make up. It is much closer to Aquarian gospel of Jesus Christ that also base its evidence on unneccasry assumptions.


What is the essence of such a book...... To swallow it without evidence or to belief it by faith.....i know the book initially and that is why I raised those questions.

budaatum:
No wonder you need a pastor! Why don't you just let me read it for you and tell you. Smh

To those who in orthodox sincerity will reject much that is presented in this book, I can say only: “Hold fast to that which is good!” If your faith, your knowledge, and your conviction in regard to Christian matters serves you well, and there is no inner urge to look beyond the veil, then do not do so. Permit nothing to weaken or lessen your adoration and worship of him who is your Savior and your Lord.

Yes I will need a- pastor, but a good one. - most pastor are guru in the feild, they have the ability to take me beyond the religious standard book - they open up various & imaginative ways to examine and understand the wtting text.- they can tell me how one text is related/connected to numerous other text (exegesis) which you may or may not need to know - simply, they can also open up my imagination and make things so interesting that i would even pursue interesting verses or text that I might not have known or touched otherwise.. in short, I can be educated thru a clever pastor


Liberal orthodox should be open minded. If your so called books does not have an hidden agenda or base on fabrication and mere assumptions, the idea should be welcome.

budaatum:
Vaxx's question is one he can answer himself if he wants to. He should mind not to be under any obligation on my part.

And I have not asked anyone to believe anything, be it the Bible or a pastor. If you've ever read a single word I've written, you'd know I never have. 'Belief' is not a thing I hold in high esteem so I'd hardly be peddling it to others.

As to progress, that's up to the individual, surely. Progress for ganders may be regression for gooses.

Good thing then, we're not a community of geese and ganders

Thanks for recommending this book for us.

But how are you so sure this book is not full of baloney?

Can you check the index and the bibliography of this book? What about the credentials of the historian?

I think it will be worth downloading when all this evidence are provided. So as to not download a worthless book.

Simplicity, self-discipline, endurance should be your watch guide.

“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.” ~ Unknown, misattributed to Marcus Aurelius

For me as an ifa adrehent(pagan)It is important to be little humble in life. I mean, you will only be here for a little time, and will most likely be forgotten in a few generations. But to be remember as a true ancestor. You should be concerned with your image, or your status. Do not choose to live to impress others around you. Live your life simply because you deserve it. It is your birth right to be joyful and happy. Create your own mission and visition . Without this, you will achieve a goalless life.





Picture speak louder than a thousand word

Life is beautiful , scary and full of troubles....expect it new soul.....

Empiree:
You dont get it. Remember we all learned this in school. What you are saying is not new to me. But I am asking you for documented reference like revealed Holy Book to Oduduwa etc. I have come to realization that this story dont have authenticity. But look at what God says in the Quran about first creation with proof

if you are aware we learn it from school, why are you asking for documented evidence then?. Consult your school text book to have one. Isese is not limited to human writing. Isese holds ancient value that predate both Islam and Christianity , we don't have one useless book to argue over, we let nature inspire us. Oduduwa does not claim prophethood, so what does he going to do with the holy book . Muhammed himself cannot verified his own source. What is the external evidence that what is written or find in quran is a fact? It is just belived that rested on nothingness like that of Vedas of Hindus or bible of the christain. There is no objective theological way to test the evidence in the documented quran. ATR is about giving you value thru the nature. You can find evidence yourself if you so wish.

See how i cited sacred reference. Where is yours to prove Oduduwa appointed Oni as "arole" on earth?. Are you even saying Oduduwa is God or what?. When did Oduduwa come to existence?

You cited a bogus reference that cannot be objectively verified if it is true., I will give you information that was passed down thru memorization but has physical evidence to hold on. The lingua meaning of oni is (oni ri orisha ) the one who see orisa, oni fore father was an ABORE( chief priest ) not oduduwa direct son. He was just fortunate to own oduduwa crown ( their are historical background to this). If you want first hand information , visit ife during olojo festival, oni wear a particular crown called ade are(oduduwa personal crown) It only used by oni thru out Yoruba race. The essence is to justify the importance of oni and the throne in Yoruba land.

See the other thread where i quoted you?. You should read where the brother said there should have been documented evidence of yoruba religion. We learned about all these things you are saying when we were young. Out of respect for your belief, i wont deny you but, yoruba claims are not substantiated. Interestingly, there is one Alfa who said in his lecture that your Odu Ifa pointed to advent of islamic prophet, just like we see references of prophet Muhammad(saw) in Torah, Gospel, Hindu Book and other religious literature. Thats how we convince them to come to islam. But since you have no written evidence of yoruba religion but only rely on oral tradition, Alfa said your Odu Ifa pointed to Muhammad(saw) according to one of your Alawo. Not long after that, babalawo embraced islam.

lol....alfa has no authority on the subject, isese is unstructured religion .There are more than 7,000 languages in the world, as listed at Ethnologue.
Each of those languages has been a defining mark of at least one culture in which Yoruba is part and nearly all of those cultures have their own religion.

Fewer than a hundred languages have a really active written culture. It is not peculiar to Yoruba tradition only.

Like i said having your written documented those not validate your religion.... and the babalawo accepting Islam is not a well substantiate evidence. Even many alfa are practically babalawo. Many alfa are even embracing Christianity.....


Odu ifa predate islamic prophet or even Jesus. There are scientific evidence for that.... if you must know , check and confirm when Ile ife was established (the expansive land).

You made allegation and you must provide evidence. I have been studying Quran for far too long.

As someone who has studied the quran and islam and it is still on it till present ., I would say there are just too many to count. Yet for every error you find, there are always brainwashed followers who will use the following arguments; 1) you don’t know what you’re talking about; you just got that from some islamophobic site! or 2) Well, if you read the actual Arabic, that’s not what the qur’an really says. But if you must know. These are just two examples among the numerous. According to Quran 51:49 and Quran 36:36, all creatures are created in pairs, but viruses, bacteria, Mexican whiptail lizard, and several other creatures are asexual and do not mate or have a couple. Confirm my source.

Again, i am not denying they are human being. But you have made them object of worship, period. We dont accept that. It doesnt matter how you try to pain it. Yoruba have made them deities besides God. This is contrary to our fundamental belief. So islam and yoruba religion are opposite. Oni can not deceptively merge islam and yoruba religion. ko se se (not possible)

No one has make orisha an object of worshiped it is ignorance to say so. Yoruba belief exist long ago before muhamedanism, therefore should be different from arab myth. I repeat It again. it is the duty of oni to foster unity among his subjects. Oni is sophistically treating all religion as one just like how our politicians are treating us as one people. When in actuality we are of different background. ( but this techniques has foster unity among us)despite it been false. It is also find in islam, i have earlier refer you to it.

I directed you to a thread i created. I am sure you didnt read. There are things to learn from there. And i am sure you can find materials online to learn from. Plus bunch of lectures of Sheikh Adam(ra) you can learn from.

I said you should stop treating road side mechanics as the same as mechanic engineering. I am aware of adam al ilori myself. Bunch of Ile kewu graduate.

Oh, you spelt it wrong. It is called Shirk(associating partners with One God) which you are involved in and all those Oba and all forms of ebo you do in ile yoruba. One example is you said oduduwa sent Oni to be his arole on earth. So who is Oduduwa and where is he?. Did Oduduwa create the world?. Is Oduduwa human being like you and I?. Ibadah means worship. Act of worship was specifically described in islam which you see muslims do everyday. If you do contrary to that is called Shirk that you asked me to differentiate from Ibadah.

Go thru my thread. I have answer this similar question. This is why I use to say black muslims suffer from deep mental-slavery. They often try to condemn African spirituality as "idol worship." And When we say that our religious sculptures are just symbolic focal points, and not God himself, the muslims act stupid like they can't understand this, yet they do the same thing but with a building and not a sculpture.

When muslims worship, they bow and kneel to a mosque in the direction of the kaaba in Mecca. To any onlooker, they are worshipping the mosque building and the kaaba of Mecca.

But that would sound foolish to the muslims right because they know that the building is just a visual symbolic focal point not an object of worship.

Yet, hypocritically, you don't recognize the same logic in other religions that are doing the same symbolic thing but just with sculpture instead of bowing to a building.

This is the point. Isese in yorubaland is ebo(shirk). We will never compromise. You need to leave isese. There is nothing like that. Did you watch Oba Rasheed who refuted Oni on isese?. But when it comes to human and current affairs, we can work together regardless of our religious affiliation for the good of our community to live in peace and harmony with ourselves. But when it comes to Ibadah(worship), we will never agree. We will never worship together. This is what i meant when i said "to you is your religion and to us is our religion"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHuJW7vnwGE

You want me to take you and your clown king seriously. I am well versed in this topic than him.(sorry if that denote pride but that is the truth )he even lack the requirement in the first place, so his sophistry cannot influence me. . Iwo is a suburb of Yoruba land not the entirety of Yoruba kingdom.

We like to tell you about iwo but i don't see a need for that in this topic.

Lol, you admitted Oni is not historian nor a scholar, therefore, he should be the one to visit library. If he was good enough, he should have contacted muslim scholars in Yorubaland before he came out in public to make such ridiculous about islamic history

i have admitted this since .he is not an historian just like king fahd that authorized quran is not a scholar.

Oni roles is not to preach but to influence . I have repeat this times without number.

Empiree:
smh. Who is On I next to Islam?. Islam was documented. You should have provided written evidence like revealed holy book well known to Yoruba people. And why only this current Oni making this statements?. Did former Oni made similar claim?. As you can see, many people were shocked to hear his utterances because no Oni of Ife never made such claims.

You ask who is oni. Oni is the arole of oduduwa (He symbolised oduduwa on earth, his fore father were the Oracle eye of oduduwa during oduduwa reign) Islam was documented after the demise of Muhammad (i.e)the hadith which is roughly 200 years....while quran itself was documented within the 23 years of Muhammad ministry. Abu bakr compiled them. Being documented does not make it true. It just show the progress of civilization in the Arab word. Arabs have developed a well writing system by then. Yoruba did not have one as at that time but have a robust system that can be trust. Most babalawo learn very hard by memorization and at the same time from the use of symbols and signs.it is well praticed among them till date.

ATR is not providing evidence, ATR is not looking for converts but tolerance. ATR is Nature-oriented and appeals to those who love the Earth and want to preserve it. It is about what you have upstairs. it is a DIY religion, that is, a “do it yourself” religion where you are able to work out your own beliefs and what makes sense to you. So you will not find it in a book.

what's this about?. He only printed and distributed copies. So?.

He authorised it despite not having the knowledge. I am sure you are not aware of many quran translations error. Go do the findings.


I

see. That's why you trying hard to defend your Oni. You better leave that religion. Yoruba people were the ones who distorted Islam in Yorubaland. All those things you called odua, obatala, oranmiyan were probably righteous men that you people raised their level to demigods. Or they were woods made by men and laid claim of deities to them.

lol. I am not a novice.... They are called orisha in Yoruba. Orisha means (ori-ti -a-sha ) The head we specifically selected . They are human like me and you. Nothing make them demi. Except you bro and it is due to ignorance. Go thru my thread. I have written many stuff on this . Oni is not defended but appreciated. I have explain the rationality behind his motive for giving such sophistry. And this idea is not peculiar to him too as it is found in Islam as well

You are speaking within your level of thinking faculty. You obviously don't know sheikh Adam

I ask you for an evidence, didn't I? Let's see. I see you have been trainned to accept motor mechanic as the same as mechanic engineering ....

you need to explain yourself better good I'm not quite understanding you here.

I mean shiruku and ibaadah. What is the diffrence between this act. When you answer it. draw the line of reasoning by yourself. I don't feel the urge to expose the paganism nature of islam myself.i want you to do that.

peace, unity, tolerance are one thing on the side. Religion it's another thing on the side. Oni is mixing religions on false premises and faulty historical links. Mixing religions is not about peace. I'm good short clip that went viral, he didn't say anything about peace. He is promoting unification of religion on false historical links

You rased similar veiw upward, oni puporse is to foster unity among his subject while advocating for isese. It is only when you begin to appreciate my ideology that my way of life we begin to make sense to you. Oni is actually promoting that.

I have repeated it many times that oni is not an historian nor a scholar.. oni purpose is to influence majority decision and is doing that perfectly well. If you want to know how well about this history. Go visit a library or better still consult an historian not oni.

Empiree:
no fossil and scientific evidence in ile-ife

i am not ready to acknowledge that isalmic shaadah trademark on my profile (may change later), so i am not going to honour your invitation to islamic section.. But if you want to know much about Yoruba ATR. I have made a little contribution here on nairaland. Go thru my profile..


In shakespare, do we have fossils and scienctifc details of Romeo and Juliet? But there is a good historical and social record that the family existed and still continue till date. ., the Montagues & the Capulets family were real, & they did zealously fight on the streets of Verona


If you want to know much about Yoruba deities today. Go straight to ile ife. Some family are direct son and daughter of ORUNMILA...... (meaning ORUNMILA happen to be their great parent ) they are there till today to give you evidence. If you want to know about sango. Ask oba lamidi of oyo Ile. (Is direct great parent)They will give you first hand information.

Apart from that, there are few research that is back up by radiocarbon dating in Ile ife today. At least.

I am aware of the oranmiyan rod. Nigeria herself is lacking in this area and hence make this kind of research more difficult.

As for quran. It has no scientific backup. All what muhammed claim cannot be proven. science cannot even process if Quranic knowledge is real or not since its not objective in nature.

Empiree:
Yoruba only have oral traditions. But we have oral and written. So 124k sent was documented. Yoruba can not prove their deities.

if you need a first hand evidence.......go straight to ife....it is not hidden. ...


Documenting it does not solidify it.

Empiree:
bro, why is it difficult for you to understand my point?. Religious differences are separate from tolerance. What your are saying is to combine religions is what you defined as "tolerance". That's not the definition of tolerance in Islam. You practice your religion and I practice mine. But when it comes to activities that binds is as human we can work together. Quran reaches us "to you is your religion, to us is our religion"

it is not what Islam says, it is about what oni says and the rational behind it. Oni is not a scholar just like king fahd isn't one.

I don't know what you talking about. You can as well keep it simple by posting screenshot

i am saying one of the most popular Qurans in print has King Fahd authorization. For example, The king fahd edition was printed in Medina in 1405 Hijri (1984-1985) with millions of copies distributed throughout the world.

It carries the inscription: “A gift from the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Fahd Ibn Abdul Aziz for the spreading of Allah’s Word.” confirm my source.

what's your religion?

I am a proud pagan.



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D you are too young to come up with this nonsense. From your responses does that you agree with Oni which means that, just as Oni doesn't know what he was saying, you too have no idea what you are saying. Sheikh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory was a scholar. You can't challenge that.
https://www.nairaland.com/2042359/shaykh-adam-abdullah-al-ilory

ok let see who is spewing nonsense. Provide me a copy of his work that had established stamp from al hazar university or simply provide me one of his work that can be found in unilorin religious department(he is from ilorin that should not be too far ). I just challenge it. None of his work can be study in any academic discipline. His work belongs to omo Ile kewu category or better still marikasi.

guess you wanna teach me something?. Well, shukroh(Thanks). Ibadaah(worship)

i am giving you the plural form of shirk(idolatry) A typo error there.
And i want you to analysed it from worshiped. What i want you to cover is simply the act..

Then Oni should keep his mythological story to Yoruba religion. Islam has nothing to do with it.

it is the duty of oni to promote peace while establishing the importance of Yoruba ancestral worship. It is your duty to know the truth if you so wish.
Even in islam, when there is conflict between two individual. They are restrictions to setttle the conflict as a third party for example, you can't explain in details where both of them attack each other negatively to avoild futher crisis. Your mission is to promote peace even if some fact will be covered to do so.

Empiree:
isten, this is not tolerance. If he wanted to preach tolerance, that's a different subject. You don't preach tolerance by making up history that was not there. Islam has nothing to do with obatala, oduduwa etc. Those are Yorubaland mythology. Oni preached religion not tolerance

No where from that video you posted oni ever talk against islam or Christianity, he rather solidify it by making it look like indigenous religious. Which i earlier agree that it is sophistry. The idea is to spread unity and nnot division. It is part of his duty to unify his subjects regardless of religious background.

can you provide reference for this?.

check the front page of your Quran translation and read the acknowledgement notice or better still check the publication company of your quran.

sheikh Adam already talked about history of Islam in Yorubaland and Nigeria general. He made no significant reference to what Oni said.

No any academic decipline will ever have a copy of adam ilori in its chamber as a reference backup

..in an academic cycle adam ilori is not a schloar. I have read his opinion on how islam enter yoruba land. It is basically faulty.and rooted in false assumption.

you just sounded like Oni. You confused yourself. Submmision means Islam. Very simple. But to worship something else is not submmision which means to ébó as they do it in Yorubaland and anywhere is it done is opposite of what Adam believed.

So you don't even know Islam is the monotheistic political version of Arab paganism? What is shukro, what is ibaadah? When you get this . analysed it.

Therefore, the so called "ìsésé" is nothing but Yoruba mythology. Yoruba might had Islam but they distorted the religion of their prophet. Reason for this is because Quran says that God sent prophets and messanger to every nation on Earth but their messages were distorted just like Christianity until prophet muhammad(saw) was sent to rectify them.

Yes isese is Yoruba mythology and it is totally diffrence from arab myth as well.

So because muhammed said 1240000 prophet existed and were sent across all nation you believe it withhout any external evidence. Welldone . What if shango is a prophet? Or do you have evidence to rebuked it. Perhapbs you have hadith to rebuked it.

Empiree:
Yoruba Sufi Muslims use the line of thought to accommodate all religions views along cultural and tolerance scope. Not mix of religion. There is difference. Islam doesn't forbid muslims from engaging other religions in anything except worship. This Oba is promoting worship or mix of worship by citing false historical record. Therefore he must be refuted.

If Sheikh Adam Abdullah Al-ilory (ra) was alive today, he would shut his mouth.

Adam's religion was (submmision to God) Islam




Refutation Of King Adeyeye Enitan


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24TjtkUhxK8

You don't get the comparative ...i am telling you that both line of thought is to establish solidarity among member of their community......even politician use this techniques.

He is not an oba, he is oni (arole oduduwa).oni is promoting tolerance of isese while advocating and pushing the front line of oduduwa which he represent as arole. And he is doing it in a diplomatic means rather than scholarly aproach.

King fahd abudulasis of blessed memory has authotized many quran translation which many scholars agree is ambiguous. Yet the position of fahd was honoured despite not being a scholar because thier position is to influence people decision . So if you want to learn history or scholarly information ...meet the right people for that.

Sheikh adam will better face islamic scholar or simply a student of islamic studies rather than engaging a monarchy. Even alfa agaba (taju adabi) will not be be able to face the nitty gritty discussion of islamic studies discussed in classrom today.


Religion come from the latin word relegare(meaning to bind ) which means adam religion is basically binding by submitting to the will of allah. So if you say adam religion was islam, then you MUST say he was the first Muslim AFTER he was the first pagan and the first Jew, and the first Christian because the Muslim religion came AFTER pagan , Jewish and Christian faiths.

Empiree:
Yoruba muslims and Christians must take not of this fake king, especially muslims. Islam has nothing to do with Yoruba religion.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjFuRQhb48k


Read video discriptions

oni ogunwusi is not a trainned historian or a scholar. I will rather say he is just good at sophistry because his position demands that for peace to prevail among the muslim , Christian and traditionalist. Some youruba suffi muslim also use this line of thought to accomodate all other religion veiws.


But let me dance along with your reasons....

What is prophet adam religion?

budaatum:
Yep, bullying and insulting. Mods you see am? Ban now!

i am scared nowwwwwwwwww

budaatum:
I must start reporting people more. Might put vaxx on my list in fact if just for the fun of it, except with his ape friend gone and my Sai Bubu alliance with butter, vaxx gone will take the fun out too.

.....keep calmmmmm

Lol

Hier:
Evolution is a heap of junk from calculated ignorant men.

Why does anyone want to prove there is no God, firstly, one that hates God and feel threatened by his presence.

We live in a world where many anti-God enterprises are been set up or built with multi-billion of dollars and for their businesses to remain profitable without any interfere by a supreme being, they need to eliminate the threat by promoting a course even though it's all faulty from the root, you mentioned that a chemistry scientist proved evolution from a test tube, the question is, who approved of his research, it's just unfortunate we don't have much Christians to disprove those facts they put up everyday, and like I said, the lie keeps some business tycoon profitable, people spend wastefully and live luxurious lives, without being constrained. That's what the whole heap of junk is all about, have a blessed day

Denying evolution is a symptom of deep ignorance of science as a tool to describe the unavoidable reality of the world around us. Of a mob mentality convinced that numbers can overpower reason. Of rejection of the unknown. Of not knowing as a lifestyle choice.

Evolution does not denied God , it only validate science. In fact, evolution predicts the existence of many diverse beliefs of all sorts of gods, including a paternal sky/shepherd god. There is reaarch paper that discusses the role of evolution in the development of religions. http://dinets.info/religion0.htm

Your allegation is founded on faulty evidence....

ifenes:
Evolution is partially false. Some life forms have evolved with external influences

what is partially false about evolution? And what are you even saying regarding external influences. .....

Hier:
To prove there is evolution, a lot of false assumptions have been made and that's the point of countering the whole Scam. Remain Scammed(Blessed)

You are scientifically ignorant or perhaps intentional ignorant.

Your write-up is basically founded on ignorant excuses.

pressplay411:
Religious Tolerance

How can I tolerate your religion when we have been taught we are enemies?
How can I tolerate you when all we see in each other is not our common grounds but our differences?
How can we tolerate each other when we were raised to hate each other?
How can we tolerate each other when we kill each other while we were created to heal each other?
How can we tolerate each other when we can't even relate with each other?

I know what to do.
Our problem is not each other.
Our problem is the middle man.
Our problem is we keep listening to those teaching us about each other when we can easily learn to know each other.
The problem is prejudice.

The solution to religious intolerance is knowledge, respect, patience and love.

What do you know of me?
Have you asked me about it, to know if it is true?
What do I know of you?
Can I ask you if it's true?

Where there is no communication, there is assumptions and miscommunication.
Assumptions rarely produce anything good.
Let's communicate in respect and genuine curiosity.

We are all in it for the same thing. For Salvation, Good life and Heaven.
No body went into a religion to be evil.
We go into religion to be good, better and the best version of ourselves.

God help us all.
God bless Nigeria,
God bless You and I.

something in me just fall in love with this ......have you heard John Lennons song….Let it Be. ""Just let people believe what they want to believe because they will believe what they WANT or NEED to believe anyway, no matter what we say. Think how many different skin colours and hair colours there are. They are just there. We accept them because they are just there and we know that is the way it is""

,Do your own homework, don't just assumed unneccasry. learn the differences between Acquired Characteristics and Natural Selection, and answer your own homework questions yourself. Darwin don't teach genetic, it is beyond is own scope.


.....Just six days ago, a noble award in chemistry was given to the scientists who demonstrate evolution in a text tube...

[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=71931552][/quote]lol but

OLAADEGBU:
Permit me not to confuse you with the facts because your mind is already made up.

lol..............i.

OLAADEGBU:
From a Biblical Christian's perspective, I define natural as "a process by which individuals possessing a set of traits that confers a survival advantage in a given environment tend to leave more offspring on average that survive to reproduce in the next generation." - AiG

B..S

OLAADEGBU:
How do you define evolution?

Do a quick Google search.The noble price for chemistry was given to demonstration of evolution in a text tube just six days ago. I suggest you crawl back to under the same stone you crawled out off and stay there. So that you can stop this BS

OLAADEGBU:
For your information, natural selection is not evolution. Get your facts right.

Let me be your student. What is natural selection.

budaatum:
Not every post is for the sake of arguing, vaxx. Not every post is about ones tiny ego. He'll be teaching you. Unlike you, some can discuss in order to increase their own understanding and that of other readers.

There is nothing bad in him teaching me or perhaps the word educating me. That is why I am here. so don't be too carried away with such use of words as it does not in anyway passed a reasonable message. But a message of ignorant.

I still repeat it . It will be gullible of him arguing against his own standard of truth.