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PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 1:00pm On Apr 27, 2011
edicolove:
there is actually something GEJ can do. Help split the country. But I guess most of you will start shouting he shouldnt. The president is very helpless because the truth is any action from him will be read as an action of a southerner against the north. Do you know the perpetrators of this acts actually wanted a situation where the south will do reprisal attacks and then the country will be plunged into a state of emergency setting the stage for military takeover? These guys aint fools. They have planned it a long time ago. The Ciroma committee started this whole thing. then the Imams picked it up and started preaching in their mosques that GEJ was a "kafir". An infidel. and that it was their turn to rule Nigeria. Buhari knew all this and still went ahead to tell them to lynch. Did you also notice that the week before the elections, IBB,  Atiku and Gusau joined the Ciroma group to work for the emergence of Buhari? These are supposed to be sworn enemies but they still had to agree on a northern candidate and were willing to put their differences apart to allow Buhari emerge. The mistake they made however was that they didnt realise the emergence of a new crop of northern leaders who thought differently. That was why GEJ was able to get votes from the north. now those old northern leaders have suddenly been rendered irrelevant.
You should have seen the way those silly miscreants were celebrating at the sight of military helicopters. They thought the plans of their puppeteers had worked and the military had taken over. Like their plan was going to going to work in the first place, LOL. Since when did the South start enjoying reprisal attacks? Their leaders are only setting the stage for a break up if they continue to feed their follower the "kaffir" line. Silly people.
PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 12:28pm On Apr 27, 2011
maclatunji:
So from your several presentations, one can conclude that the President of Nigeria is as helpless in this situation as a newly-born lamb, or what exactly do you want us to take away from your continuous ranting about Buhari and what you believe to be his "army of Almajiris"?
I don't have to explain myself to you. I have expressed my opinion. You have a right to yours and I do not begrudge you that right. Frankly some the men I have come across on NL embarrass themselves just to prove their intellectual prowess. If your point is GEJ is to blame for the riots, please stick to it. I maintain that Buhari has a part in the riots. Rubbish!!!!  angry
PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 12:19pm On Apr 27, 2011
IykeD:
Mr, don't let unnecessary emotions becloud your sense of reasoning and judgement. Who is justifying the killings, i am probably more concerned than you are cos i know someone who was affected. How hard is it for you to extract or discern facts from what we are saying here? I am saying these violence has nothing to do with the elections and there you go contradicting yourself (see the highlighted part of your lines). Now i implore you to bring the links to all those stuffs you said about them asking the people to say sai Buhari, so that means if one said Sai Buhari, he would not be killed right? Who in his right senses will see death coming and what could save him was just mere utter of "sai buhari" and wouldn't scream it? Come on man, you should be smarter than this! The link we all read here weekend of a brave northerner who saved some southerners was that the animals asked them to say some Islamic stuffs and not "your sai Buhari". The whole thing is not political and i repeat it again, it is not political, it is religious and tribalism which was timed with the electioneering period. Now also if Buhari is responsible, is he bigger than Nigeria, this is almost two weeks now, why hasn't he been at least summoned for questioning by the SSS or other security operatives as  they usually do? What i am saying and will continue to say is that the government has failed in their duty to provide security to the common masses of the federal republic of Nigeria, if nothing is done and you come here shouting Buhari all day, it will not change anything, let the Government do something and fast for that matter. An ordinary legislator, even a commissioner goes around with about 10-20 fully armed mobile policemen and soldiers, why can't they just make sure that one fully armed soldier is responsible for at least 100 people in that heated region? Think, think!
huh You implore others to think but well excuse me, have you not heard the witness statements of one of the corpers who escaped the death that claimed the late Obinna Okpokiri, Ukeoma Ikechukwu, Seun Adewumi and others killed in Giade Bauchi? They were not even given a chance!!!! In the case of Seun, one of his students identified him!!!! Do you think he was given a chance to say "Sai Buhari?". Who would see life and death, and then choose to die? Wow!!! Please try to imagine the terror these poor souls went through before you trivialize their deaths. If you go back and read the story of that non Hausa Fulani Muslim that saved those Christians again, he said as the rioters continued to hack one of their victims to death, they were asking him to repeat Arabic proclamation of Allah's greatness and the man tried but he was too weak. Note the word "too weak". I assume those guys had no intention of sparing him if they didn't give him a chance to repeat their words.

Also, Buhari has managed to entrench his Messianic syndrome into the consciousness of the average almajiri, and coupled with the resentment of a Southerner being in charge, the anti South, anti- Christian sentiments is bound to rise again. Besides that, how can you arrest a man if there is no evidence of direct involvement in the killings of corpers? We as intelligent beings will blame him and Tunde Bakare for making inciting speeches, but that is all the evidence we have. In the courts of law, that evidence is inadmissible. I agree that the government owes Nigerians more than bloated legislators and senators with fat salaries but we must ask the Northern elites to stamp out the culture of hate in their midst.
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PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 12:01pm On Apr 27, 2011
edicolove:
Those who continue to justify murders and destruction by attributing it to purported rigging and the faiure of govt will share in the blood of those who were killed. Like a columnist said in Thisday, they have trivialized the death of innocent people and glorified the so-called reason for the genocide. Posterity will require the blood from your hands.

1. You are justifying a premeditated murder and destruction that started on Saturday night in Gombe when results where not even collated. By Sunday night, half of the north was already burning. Results were announced on Monday.
2. You are justifying an incitement to violence by Buhari when he went on air on Saturday and started saying the elections were already rigged. After he had told the mob during his campaign that they should lynch anyone who rigged.
3. You are justifying the barbaric slaughter of innocent Youth Corpers and pastors with the cry of "sai Buhari". Those cutlasses were coming down the necks of those innocents under the cry of "sai Buhari". Heaven will judge.
4. You are justifying the violence that erupted because a southerner won an election. The same violence that never was when Yaradua won in 2007 even after most people said the election was a sham.
5. You are justifying the burning of churches that had nothing to do with the elections.

Posterity will judge all of you. Most of you stay abroad and write all this stuff. But may posterity judge all of you that have tried to trivialize the death of Okporokiri and Ikechukwu who were mowed down just because they refused to allow underage voting and mass thumb printing by CPC supporters. Anyone who continues to justify their death will have their blood on his hands. You can insult me all you like, but what goes around comes around.
Thank you for your comments. It is just sickening when we shy away from the truth. No doubt, the Government has a responsibility to its citizens, but the truth is the culture of hate in the North has been in existence before the emergence of PDP. The argument of government stepping up to its responsibility is one I have read from many people of Hausa Fulani extraction all over the net. It is a diversionary tactic to lure everyone from questioning the elites of the North as to why their foot soldiers always maim innocent Nigerians.

If not for public opinion and pressure from all quarters, Buhari would almost not have gone on air to condemn the violence. He stopped short of addressing the murder of those innocent corpers with his excuse that PDP must explain the numbers at the poll. Why hasn't CPC talked about child voting. Christian Purefroy of CNN addressed the issue of child voting and Buhari told him that he had not heard of it. The hypocrisy.

The truth is that those from the South who are blaming the government are only singing the same song of the hypocrites in the North who have come out in full force to blame Jonathan, without explaining why it is only Northern Muslims that deem it fit to slaughter human beings whenever the mood moves them. I maintain that Buhari has his own part in the violence. The man had a cult following among the almajiris that killed people in the post election violence. If he had the interest of Nigeria at heart, he should have come out in full force to condemn the killings without necessarily excusing the violence based on allegations of rigging. The rampaging youths would have listened to him had he done that. It was only after there was a public outcry that he made a halfhearted attempt to call his illiterate, stoned followers to order. We cannot continue to trivialize the deaths of corpers without taking the North's unnecessary resort to aggression at every point for granted.
PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 3:00am On Apr 27, 2011
fxtopedia:
You will zoom to bed and leave me here? Too bad!
We gotta continue next time you make any obnoxious comments.
"Almajiri apologists?" "Bigots?" The words look good for you my dear, LEL
grin Obnoxious comments? LOL. Interesting!! Please feel free to follow me around all you want. As for now, toodles,,, grin
PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 2:52am On Apr 27, 2011
fxtopedia:
hypocrite!!! Fool will not empathise with family(ies) of those corps member!
I never against any of your comments save the curse you placed on Buhari
and his supporters
. Too bad!

Think about it!
grin grin cheesy first highlighted, slow down and make sense.

Second highlighted, huh?

Third highlighted, your words bear no resemblance to my comments. "Almajiri apologists?" "Bigots?"- Sound familiar? Don't try to sensationalize things. Keep it rational. I'm off to bed.  kiss kiss grin
PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 2:33am On Apr 27, 2011
fxtopedia:
Dummy! Dummy!! You don't understand what I had in mind except you are a wit### cheesy cheesy cheesy
Hehe, I have been moved by your display of "intelligence" and humanity to the killers of those corpers. Now, I am firmly convinced that you are a real "smarty". It is simply hard to miss your lack of focus in arguments. I am very "impressed". Seriously. You can keep the insults coming, I am always amused to read from you. grin grin
PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 2:24am On Apr 27, 2011
fxtopedia:
I dey laugh oooo
Oh oh, done with spewing garbage?  grin

fxtopedia:
You got it! And that confirmed your nas***
grin grin Oh dear! Whatever! Just go to bed! grin
PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 2:12am On Apr 27, 2011
fxtopedia:
Oponu! grin!!! Beautiful face rotten heart!!!! tongue tongue tongue
grin grin grin A real Buhari supporter. SMH
PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 2:01am On Apr 27, 2011
fxtopedia:
Mumu,   grin that[b] ROFLMAO[/b]
cheesy grin grin On encoute les imbeciles par les silence.
PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 1:49am On Apr 27, 2011
fxtopedia:
No! I was not trolling at all. I was against the CURSE.
Read because of dummy like you? LOL never!!!
grin One word for you- silly. *Pats fxtopedia on his misshapen head*
PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 1:42am On Apr 27, 2011
IykeD:
I knew it was 12 years ago!
Good. Those who destroy the country are the old recycled soldiers in our midst. You can put them in any party. Their ideologies remain divide and rule. So if Nigeria is a failed project, then it is time to part ways.
PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 1:35am On Apr 27, 2011
IykeD:
I see you are in Abuja, you can easily communicate your stand to Aso Rock and Senate. I am far away hence, can do little or nothing, so we can start with you. If you feel the matter is too sensitive for the Government to deal with, then you can help us educate some of them to turn their hate to love, as if you do not know that those animals are trying so hard to make Nigeria be even worse than those countries you mentioned. Let the Government start at all with "soft hand" and we see where it will lead to. Gotta rest and worry less about this failed country!
Lol. I hear you. So you agree that Nigeria is a failed project?
PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 1:32am On Apr 27, 2011
fxtopedia:
I can handle you alone. Refined in deed!  tongue tongue tongue
Your reasoning is even poor. Nagging girl, keep barking!!! Time and future will tell.
Lol! grin. I have presented arguments and all you have done is veer off track with senseless dribble. Yeah, I can see you handling me alright. grin grin I forgot more than you'll ever learn dear. Go read and then come back and say something sensible. grin grin
PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 1:20am On Apr 27, 2011
IykeD:
At least i make little sense and if you are smart, you would have understood where i am coming from. What i am saying is no one person can be accused or held responsible for all  these, we have had many of such before. We can't sit back and continue shouting Buhari while people are being killed everyday, something has to be done, i can't do it, you can't do it, only government can do tackle this mess!
Well sir, my point is we must also start with ourselves before government can do anything. And in any case, the almajiris in the North must undergo serious orientation to be able to become better citizens. This burden falls on the educated elites of the North that have treated their own children to education in foreign countries at the expense of their own people.

We cannot isolate the government and ask them to do the impossible. You should never underestimate passions my friend. People filled with hate or indoctrinated to hate others based on religious convictions will go any length to thwart efforts by the government to bring security to a country. Without speaking for Jonathan (mind you, I am one of his most ardent critics), If the government deals with this crisis with a firm hand, trust that some mischievous elements will tell the almajiris "i told you so. you see that the "kaffirs" are your enemies?". Then, enter suicide bombing. See Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan for reference. Let us use this opportunity presented by the recent outbreak of violence in the North to sit down and carve a new path for Nigeria or simply see how we can part ways amicably if it will save lives. That is my stand.
PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 1:06am On Apr 27, 2011
arrynet:
Hi Virgo,

You are perfectly right that we need to educate the Northern youths (ie the illiterate ones among them) to in order to get thing under control. In life (whether at work, business, school), we all have target to achieve in life. The same goes for the violence we are experiencing, every now and then.From political, economic and developmental viewpoints, education are the best solution with lasting and permanent effects. However, it should be utilized along with other interventions, because these illiterates can only be transformed to “independent” human beings who are able to stand & reason for themselves. Education is the most effective tools to change any man. But don’t forget you we need to device short, medium and long-term solutions to this problem we are currently facing. These killings have been carried for so many reasons-religions, tribal and political. God helps us! It is too much and it is enough.


The problem at hand is critical, as lives are being lost. Human life is precious. The families of the deceased are psychologically wounded for life as a result of these killings. Hence I will say the problem needs urgent and drastic action to address this “wahala” in the north.

For peace to reign in any society, we need law and order, and it is one’s responsible to ensure this.

There are different ways for curtailing violence, and our law enforcement agencies should be able to appropriate to us force which is proportional to the situation they are dealing with. And through intelligence the ring-leader of the trouble-makers should be picked and put in custody. And in a volatile situation if necessary, rubber bullets, hot water canon, etc can be used against these criminals, without necessary killing.

Sociologically and psychologically, if there is no sanction, the devil people in our society will do want they feel like doing. But if there is there is sanction, they will feel checked in a way. If nothing done about this violence consistently, it will happen again, and that is the unfortunate thing that I would not like to imagine.
Thank you for your very valid points. It is just irksome that some of us fail to appreciate the value of human lives. I sincerely hope the incessant violence in the North is brought under control, because it is the biggest challenge to our unity.
PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 12:56am On Apr 27, 2011
fxtopedia:
A cretin like you will never believe that there is TYPO! I just asked you to correct what is WRONG with emend. Good you had checked
your dictionary. Nagging woman girl. I only pity your husband.
Lol, reserve your negative emotions for yourself. My man will not be caught raising the points you raise in defense of killers. So don't worry your pea sized brain about it.


fxtopedia:
Can a leopard change its ##### Never! There you are. I guess you are not married yet. You in-law would teach you some lesson!!! grin grin grin
grin. Looking for another party to come join you in your attack? I am never intimidated by men of your pedigree or those that share the same ideologies with you. Apparently you come from a background where in laws teach their son's wife "lessons". Sorry buddy. The people I move with are far more refined than that. LOL!


IykeD:
Madam know-all, have you read in the papers or seen on TV that those animals are killing people because of political affiliation? I mean do they ask, are you a member of PDP or did you vote for GEJ or Buhari before the kill? Aren't there PDP northerners? Why are they not being killed? The problem at hand is not political, get that into your head, it's purely religious, sectional and tribalism (which was  timed with the electioneering period) and all in all, it's a security issue that falls on the table of the federal republic of Nigeria headed by your president, GEJ.
Sir make-very-little-sense, exactly what is your point? Did you read my posts before asking me all these questions? My point is, intolerance in the North is to blame. So long as people are taught to hate others based on religious, party or ethnic affiliations there will be problems. And "my Jonathan" as you succinctly put it, is between a rock and a hard place thanks to the miscreants from Niger and Chad, the presence of Al Qaeda and our mutual animosity for each other across the Niger.
PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 12:32am On Apr 27, 2011
IykeD:
What right have you got to curse anyone here? I am entitled to my opinions as it affects me as much as you do. It's people like you that are causing the problem we are having in Nigeria. Please next time restrain caution, this is a public forum, don't bring your ill-mannered domestic habits here! Now take back your curse!
What a joke!!! Well listen dear, I am just as entitled to my opinion as you are to yours. If the cap fits, please gladly wear it. If you excuse murderers, don't come here ordering me around or shoving your chauvinism down my throat because I am not easily cowed by your testosterone charged diatribe. By the time, Al Qaeda shows up at your door step, you will know the real problem in Nigeria.  angry SMH
PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 12:28am On Apr 27, 2011
fxtopedia:
Oh I see! Stop exposing your ignorance. I can understand that you have not seen or heard the word EMEND before now. I mean ENEND not AMEND.
I am laughing ooo.  grin grin grin

So sorry, you need to check dictionary to understand some ''words'' grin grin grin grin
OLOODO RABATA!!!!!!!!!!
Oh oh, so you changed from "emend" to enend" now?  grin. LOL. Hope you won't change your incorrect sentence "how on earth you are the only one, " because that sounds like someone is more the olodo than he would like everyone to believe. LMAO
PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 12:16am On Apr 27, 2011
fxtopedia:
Cretin! Why won't you feel bad? When everything about you is bad. Bad manners! bad parlance!! Bad comments!!! ROFLMAO,
Go and sleep joo
Hush my friend. See who was calling someone olodo! Did you go to the dictionary before you coughed out "cretin", and "bad parlance?" You are pathetic!!! Every comment I have read from you always has poorly thought out arguments and reeks of insensitivity to the plight of victims of violence in the North. And you have the nerve to open your mouth to say someone else is bad. You are just as self righteous as the people who kill others for belonging to a different faith. I am still laughing at your bad spelling. "emend?" LOL! Poor sod! I bet you sound intelligent to your ears huh?
PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 11:59pm On Apr 26, 2011
fxtopedia:
LOL! ''Speak proper English''? That expression showed how good you are in deed! Oloodo.
Try to emend any error ok! But you lack moral. How on earth you are the only one trolling
here. F***
grin grin grin You are so dumb, I feel bad responding to your comment. Jeez, I feel like I just lost IQ points talking to you. Shoooooo, go away!!!! grin grin
PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 11:46pm On Apr 26, 2011
fxtopedia:
Why this course?
May YOU AND YOUR FAMILY EXPERIENCE THE SAME  AGONY FAMILY OF PEOPLE WHO DIED IN JOS,SULEJA,ABUJA HADetc.
.
Next time, you want to address me, speak proper English. Why are you afraid of curses? What goes around comes around brother. Shameless apologist!!! angry
Insincere bigot!!! When people like you try to make people forget the real issues at hand, you are just as guilty as the perpetrators of the violence we have been witnessing in the North these past years. silly!!!! angry

BTW, your words can't touch me, because I say it as it is. You are afraid because you see no matter where bigots and extremists and their promoters run, karma will always catch up with them. The universe rejects anything that contravenes its laws, including the laws of fairness and equity. If I can condemn Jonathan's policies and you excuse extremism. Well my friend, Karma will catch you. Those that you try to excuse their deaths will forever haunt you. AMEN!!!! IDIOT!
PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 11:33pm On Apr 26, 2011
arrynet:
The Government and the law enforcement (security) agents should be held responsible for the carnage that it is repeatedly occurring in the north. Through their operation and strategies they have failed the nation, by not providing adequate security to the populace. Whenever they act, it is always too late, as lots of lives have always been lost by then.

The problem with us Nigerians is that we are reactive people and this has permeated through all the “building blocks” of our nation.

Don't we have SSS that are supposed to be gathering intelligence about what is happening in nation? With the good intelligence, even "common sense”, the security agents should knowledge of the major spots of violence, and they should be following the thread of events and should be able to predict where it will cumulate to.

They should act more proactively to prevent violence. Because if not prevented, chaos and lawlessness ruled the day and the criminals then have free hand to carry out their devilish acts.

I would like to ask these questions:

Are the security agents not being paid to provide protection for lives and properties?  Or what are their duties?

What are the lessons that our security agents learnt from the previous violences and killings? And what are they doing with these lessons and experience, in dealing with present situation. The old adage says “that prevention is better that cure”

Why don’t we have law enforcement compliant commission or any other such bodies that our security agents should be answerable to, especially when they failed in their duties or for their inadequacies.
I understand your point completely. Security agencies need to move up to their responsibility, but I however wish to state that people are much closer to their local government chairmen, clerics, pastors and governors than the Federal govt, and if all these people do not encourage a culture of tolerance among their youths, it will be very difficult for security agencies to carry out their duties effectively. The culture of intolerance and incitement must be stamped out in the North. It is up to the Clerics who these misguided youths look up to tell them the truth that the South, or Christianity is not their enemy. Until that is done, the security agents are practically helpless because we are a complex society bitterly divided on religious and ethnic lines.

Let the re-orientation begin in the grassroots. Let their be mutual trust and understanding. Let there be respect for other tribes and cultures. Otherwise we are just not going anywhere in this country. I reiterate my statement that we are too culturally and religiously diverse to compare Western countries where security agencies paid to do their work can do so without facing the problems we have in Nigeria. Can you imagine Goodluck asking the army to give a shoot on sight order at this time in the North? Because the way things are going, mere arrests will do nothing to stem the violence. Yet if the president should step up his game, you'll see what will happen.

What we need now is educated Muslims coming out to educate their illiterate brothers on the need for peaceful co-existence with other tribes, otherwise there is very little the security agencies can do about it now without inflaming the already volatile situation. Look around you and listen to the people's arguments. Never in the history of the country have we been bitterly divided like this. But then again, since the North opened the borders to extremists, and Al Qaeda in the country, coupled with the killing of innocent corpers, the South has realized that things have actually fallen apart. Don't hate on those calling for the split of this country. A people can only take so much. huh
PoliticsRe: Who To Blame For Post Election Violence? by virgo(f): 11:09pm On Apr 26, 2011
It is the almajiri apologists all over NL and Nigeria that I blame for not being sincere. Whether you like it or not, Nigeria cannot be compared to Western countries as we are culturally and religiously diverse. A country with citizens speaking different languages and abiding by different ideologies is not the same with one that speaks the same language and has the majority of its citizens belong to the same religion. As much as I agree that GEJ should take a bold step in fishing out perpetrators of these senseless killings that have been going on, I am aware of the fact that the average Hausa man is deeply distrustful of the Southerner. It doesn't help that their religious leaders have indoctrinated them and their so called leaders in power have conveniently found scapegoats to carry out their nefarious activities.

Gen. Buhari knows the make up of the Northern society and their insecurities, so he is every bit as guilty as the miscreants who killed innocent people by inciting them to use violence in the event of his loss to PDP. Since the North has more illiterate people than literate people, this man banked on their ignorance to whip up the already existing anti-West, anti- Christian, and anti- South sentiments. Why on earth was the president being referred to as a "Kaffir" in their fliers? Why did he completely disregard the South, banking on the underage voters and Islamic extremists to get him to be the president of a nation of over 250 tribes? Why did Buhari show such contempt for a culturally diverse country in the last election? You don't need to read the 48 Laws of power to know that his tears prior to the election was only for a section of the country.

People have been tired of PDP and their non delivery for 12 years. I occasionally fault the President's policies, but I hold anyone who suffers from superiority complex in complete disdain. Gen. Buhari and his cohorts had their part in the riots. As for those of you who pretend that Nigeria can be compared to Western countries that share a common language and religion, you need to look again at your claims by looking closely at Nigeria and its problems. Educated Northerners are also culprits because they will never come out to blame their extremists brothers, maybe for fear of sounding like they are pro South or out of sheer wickedness. Rather than solve their problems, they are determined to drag us down with them with their songs of one Nigeria. All of you making excuses for Buhari or the continued genocide of Southern Nigerians in the North, I pray that you experience the agony of parents who lost their children to the mayhem, AMEN. Until we all agree that there is a problem in the North, Nigeria is a failed project. angry
PoliticsRe: 3 Bombs rock Northeastern Nigerian City; Many Dead - North Now Like Iraq by virgo(f): 7:52pm On Apr 26, 2011
okunoba:
@alj harem,  Southern Nigeria was never dependent on export earnings from the North before the discovery of oil, it was the other way round. Luggard Joined the country together so the North can share in the trading wealth of the South. The South was producing rubber and palm oil, these products back then were like what oil is today. The money from groundnut and cotton was very little.

Check out the utube video below, three min into the video will give you a better idea. Please don`t rewrite history, the North as always being dependent on the South. I have no problem with one region being richer, but lets not twist history.

Journey to Nationhood: Colonial legacy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxBQ6eIrXKc&feature=related
Please tell them. It is so annoying when people display their ignorance with so much arrogance. But then, it is hardly surprising. We have lived with that misplaced arrogance for 38 years of the existence of this "country".
PoliticsRe: 3 Bombs rock Northeastern Nigerian City; Many Dead - North Now Like Iraq by virgo(f): 5:41pm On Apr 26, 2011
alj harem:
[s]rubbish

the north has only ruled for 3 yrs in a democratic society

military coups was started by you people of the south and we simply beat u in the game

now we are in a democratic society and the north has only ruled for 3 yrs ok

and who told u the north is backwards undecided do u want to compare kano to abia

or kaduna to ebonyi

or even abuja to lagos

so get it right know what u are saying[/s]
It is completely irrelevant whether the North held power under military leadership or a civilian one. POINT- Your brothers had power for 38 years. You can make all the comparisons in the world, but it won't change the fact that your insistence on one Nigeria borders on mischief. I have lived in Kaduna, been to Kano, it aint all that pretty. Don't get worked up for nothing. Since the North is so fantastic, take yourselves and start your own country. Don't forget to merge with the Chadians and Nigeriens.
PoliticsRe: 3 Bombs rock Northeastern Nigerian City; Many Dead - North Now Like Iraq by virgo(f): 3:36pm On Apr 26, 2011
I have read the most idiotic comments by Almajiri supporters on this thread and I just shake my head. The North is already on its way to becoming a terrorist haven, and you are here making excuses for the killing of innocent young Nigerians who had their throats slit like ordinary animals. If your defense is that PDP leaders are to blame for the recent unrest in the North, how do you explain the incessant killings of non Muslims or non Indigenes since the Maitatsine, Akaluka, Plateau, and Kaduna riots?

How do you explain that despite holding on to power and oil money for 38 years you are still the most undeveloped region that has managed to keep us in the news for bad things (cholera, deaths from illegal mining, Abdulmuttallab, celebration over 9/11 and so many others). To show you that we are humans in the South, we have not touched your brothers here, but we will not allow your leaders take us for a ride again. Why should we suffer you stupid decision to invite Chadians and Nigeriens to come and take over our country? Many of your leaders aren't even from Nigeria. Shame on you that foreigners came and settled in your midst, joined the army, and dictated to the rest of you. So the Southern leaders are bad? Maybe. But at least we are far more developed, educated and sophisticated than the barbarians up North that kill innocent people for nothing. A particular sick individual has shown very little empathy for the grieving families of those lost to your brigand of Buhari supporters, even going as far as calling them PDP thugs. So it was PDP thugs that forced the late Ukeoman Ikechukwu to register child voters for CPC? It was PDP thugs that screamed "SAI BUHARI" at the face of every one they perceived to be opponents. I shouldn't be surprised. I understand that your level of reasoning is what is to be obtained where you are from. Instead of you to be more humane in your approach to this situation, you are rubbing salt to open wounds and still talking "one Nigeria".

If your excuse is that your tomatoes, onions and garlic should be the reason for our sick marriage. Just give it a try, and see what happens. You never know until you try. You claim that the Niger Delta's lands have been polluted by oil. It was one of your one that killed Ken Saro Wiwa and nine others for agitating against environmental degradation in the Niger Delta, but never mind, money answereth all things. U.A.E does not need tomato, onion or garlic to prosper. Answer- OIL. We will so conveniently use our money and education to achieve a developed society that you guys up North will know that you made a mistake for taking the rest of Nigeria for fools. In the meantime continue to fantasize about a suffering South in the event of a break up. Enjoy!!! cool
PoliticsRe: 3 Bombs rock Northeastern Nigerian City; Many Dead - North Now Like Iraq by virgo(f): 1:54pm On Apr 26, 2011
There is a desperate effort online by Northern apologists to bury the issue of NYSC deaths. SAY NO TO THIS ATTEMPT, AND SPREAD STORIES OF VICTIMS KILLED, MAIMED OR AMPUTATED. We cannot let human beings who were murdered for nothing be easily forgotten. Think if these people were your own brothers, sisters, nephews, nieces, cousins or relatives. We say no to forced amnesia!!!! Enough is enough!!! The North does not own Nigeria. Their elites will do anything to keep the country together so they can plunder the resources of the South.
PoliticsRe: 3 Bombs rock Northeastern Nigerian City; Many Dead - North Now Like Iraq by virgo(f): 12:38am On Apr 26, 2011
"My apologies. I over copied your reply to the above comment. Sorry abt that." Wink



Alright. All is well that ends well I suppose.
PoliticsRe: 3 Bombs rock Northeastern Nigerian City; Many Dead - North Now Like Iraq by virgo(f): 11:33pm On Apr 25, 2011
Ztransform:
U are such a foolish ignoramus who knows nothing about Islam. Dumb!!! angry angry angry angry angry
Why are you so upset? You are the ignoramus. I responded to a comment that actually highlighted a part of the Koran and said it was open to interpretation, not so? How do you explain the fact that not all Muslims are as violent as the ones in the North? INTERPRETATION.

You are more than dumb! Read properly before you begin to sound like a dunce. angry
PoliticsRe: 3 Bombs rock Northeastern Nigerian City; Many Dead - North Now Like Iraq by virgo(f): 10:29pm On Apr 25, 2011
"Mohammad practiced this deception himself. In the beginning when he was in a weak position he preached tolerance. However when he gained the upperhand militarily, he went for slaughter. This is where the conflict arise. Muslims who quote the peaceful passage are quoting from the early years. The later passages where brutal. "Slay them where ever you find them" Guess whose words are those?"



@Jerseyboy, The Koran like any religious books is open to interpretation right? You take the good, and leave what you/your culture does not agree with. Christians rarely follow archaic traditions in the old testament, right? Everywhere in West Africa, we have Muslims. Are there no Muslims in the Middle belt and down South? Are they no Muslims in Ghana, Burkina Faso, Senegal, Gambia and several other places in black Africa. The truth is the culture of Northern Nigeria is a savage one. They just happen to latch on to the part of their holy book that best suits their culture.
PoliticsRe: 3 Bombs rock Northeastern Nigerian City; Many Dead - North Now Like Iraq by virgo(f): 8:14pm On Apr 25, 2011
kulutempa:
On a very serious note, if I were Jonathan Goodluck,  I would be careful,  very  careful with my security arrangements.  The forces against him are evil and believe that violence is the solution to all political problems.  I would therefore not be surprised if in the next few months they do not try to make an attempt to assassinate Jonathan and take him out of the picture.    They have already shown what they are capable of doing and they will stop at nothing to achieve their aims.  Goodluck Jonathan.
U just echoed what one journalist wrote in his column in Sun newspaper. The possibility that these murderers are singing peace to distract us from their evil plans. They want to win the trust of the rest of us by blaming government for security lapses. If we make the mistake of agreeing with them, the possibility of a Jonathan assassination is very high. Then we can say, he was killed because we didn't like his way of governance. To their outright dismay, the South is singing a different tune. You need to read what nonsense they are saying on FB and everywhere. Lol. We cannot be fooled a second time. No way! The writing is on the wall now and they know that we are watching them and we are well aware of their evil intentions. First was the plan to cause problems and have the military intervene, unfortunately the military didn't. Second is to go on the internet and give us a thousand and one reason why we should stay together, while blaming Jonathan for security lapses. One Nigeria indeed! Those building surrounding Eagles square had better be watched. It makes a very good hiding place for a sniper, hired by our Northern "brothers".

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