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plaetton:
Of course, win souls = zombification = financial ra.pe = you living Large.

Pls shows a Photo of you now, so that we can compare in a years time.
The before and after Photos will tell the true story.

For an atheist you really stalk Christianity. What are you looking for negro?

philfrey08:
St. Anthony of padua was a great preacher who with his tongue preached to the fishes in the sea when he was rejected in a village. His tongue till today is incorruptible. His body decayed but that tongue is still fresh.

St. Catherine's body is incorruptible.
Praise God!

Was the tongue preaching by itself? What about the brains

Ubenedictus:
the bodies are out in the open, they are not hidden. The problem is that you have refused to make research.

You who have researched would be of great help if you shared examples complete with sources

ABDULADINO:
Wisdom of God vs Wisdom of men. Two kinds of widom....such wisdom does not come down from heaven..Who is the wisdom that came down from heaven.

Error and heresy breeds when you read a scripture in isolation rather than CONTEXT and you don't inteprete scripture with scripture..

Proverbs even reffered to the wisdom of God as a person( proverbs 8:22-31).

The onus is on you to give us your explanation on what 1 cor 2:7...is saying.

God is also Love.
When the Hammer that is the Word smashes into dogma and human philosophies, all folly is exposed

1 Cor 2:7 is talking about the gospel. That is the wisdom

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1Corinthians 2:7-8 (KJV)
But we speak the WISDOM of God in a mystery, even the hidden WISDOM, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 8 WHICH none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known IT, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

According to this amateur believer, the WISDOM here which is IT, is the Lord of glory

davidiyke:
So YOUR bible speaks of only John the Baptist who was actually a FORE RUNNER? There is no JESUS CHRIST, no Peter, Paul, etc?
Vooks has no meaning and is nobody. John the Baptist, the Bible, jesus Christ are proud identifiable entities. WHO ART THOU?
Miracles will remain MIRACLES! Some, like the atheist may decide not to believe but that will not change the reality.

The gospel has spread well minus miracles. Miracles are not the gospel

When will TB Joshua return from Mexico?

davidiyke:
Just the same words the pharisees spoke at the time of Christ. Mr or is it Mrs VOOKS?

It's vooks.
John the Baptist did zero miracles and none of that hindered his ministry. If you need drama and hype to communicate, then in all likelihood you have nothing to share

trustman:
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You haven't seen me say anything here about 'TULIP' have you? 

I believe God provided salvation for ALL. - 1 John 2:2, John 3:16 ('whosoever' is here referring to choice - freewill). 

Like I said earlier, because of unlimited atonement, sin is removed as the basis for eternal condemnation.

Thank you trustman.
Briefly explain to me your understanding of Election and I will drive the point home

ABDULADINO:
Yes, Except you are reffering to the person of the Holy Spirit as a force or an 'it' like your cohort.

Anyway explain for us the scripture he quoted and stop the fanciful antics.

Right after you walk me through James and why we should ask for a person
Some attributes of God are personified but that does not make them persons

Holy Spirit is a person

ABDULADINO:
Scripture you quoted shows folks are not true believers. There is absolutely no scriptrue that shows the elect in hell.

Show me one that sends infants and fetuses to hell

ABDULADINO:
Point is wisdom of God is a person not a character, a noun not an adjective.

Very brainy of you.
James says if anyone lacks 'a person', they should ask for 'a person' from the Father

James 1:5 (KJV)
If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

trustman:
If I understand your question, you mean why do the unbelievers end up eternally separated from God in spite of the cross?

Like I think you've noted on this thread which I want to rephrase : The sovereignty of God and the freewill of man coexists. 

When any man therefore uses his freewill to reject (refuses to accept) God's unlimited atonement expressed by His outpouring grace through the cross, such a one will end up perishing.

Thank you.
If God unilaterally appoints some individuals to salvation, then clearly there is no freewill there.
Individual Election is no sovereignty and freewill operating but sovereignty overriding freewill. Further, if outside the Elect nobody is capable of accepting the unlimited atonement, then the offer of unlimited atonement was NEVER available for them. So it is a contradiction to speak of 'unlimited' when it is essentially LIMITED to a few.

The whole point is,you can't cling to anything other than the 5 points of Calvinism as they are interrelated. Once you do, you must develop a thick skin impervious to glaring contradictions.

There is no Total Depravity if men can choose to accept/reject Calvary
There is no Unconditional election if salvation is pegged on man's acceptance of Calvary
There is no Limited atonement with unlimited atonement
There is no Irresistible grace if some can resist it
There is no Perseverance if there is no unconditional election

trustman:
I had given examples of display of grace from the Bible. The typical example being:
- The Good Samaritan Lk. 10:30-35


The emphasis in grace is on the giver. 
Grace as favour means an act of kindness. 

The Good Samaritan did not expect the man he helped to pay him back in some way for the favour he did him.
The man helped in the story cannot reverse the grace extended to him. 
The favour done was not dependent on the goodness of the man or the ability of the man to repay the favour in future. 
The only motive of the Good Samaritan was from himself - his free heartedness, not on any external consideration. 

God's grace is TOTALLY dependent on Him - the Giver rather than the receiver. God's grace is totally based on His integrity.

trustman,
I have no problem with your eloquence but please could you briefly explain to me why despite God outpouring grace through the cross men still perish?

ABDULADINO:
A human rationalization that is comforting to the flesh rather than God's own revelation. I won't take you serious since you deny original sin.

You can't answer a straight question.

Let's try again
Could you please share with me on the fate of the stillborn or those who dies shortly after birth?
Are they equally condemned?

Now you inject 'original sin'. Please demonstrate from scriptures 'original sin'

oneda:
A long time ago, when we were kids, my little sister was told to warm the soup for dinner. She tasted it and remarked that it lacked salt. My mother instructed her to put some and she scooped out a large chunk of salt obviously too big for the little soup. My mother said "Blessing! Pour it all eh" of course she needed just a little brain to withhold her hand for my mom's time tone was a clear warning that the salt is too big. She lacked this understanding, she poured all the salt into the soup. The soup was condemned. She was just a little child who couldn't read between the lines.

When I wrote advertising church in the Op, I did it with the understanding that I am without writing to adults not kids. You need to read between the lines. I thought adults would have seen that I do not mean that publicising your church is bad, but when a church is publicised as if you're advertising gala then something is definitely wrong. Let us reason like adults please.

We read the lines not the emptiness between them

OLAADEGBU:
You forgot to tell me about your hatred for the Negroid race hence your comparing them with rats. Let me give you more ammunition from your racist friends and see what they think of us Negroes and what they compare us with.

"At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace throughout the world the savage races. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes … will no doubt be exterminated. The break will then be rendered wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as at present between the negro or Australian and the gorilla." -- Charles Darwin

"No rational man, cognizant of the facts, believes that the average negro is the equal, still less the superior, of the white man. And if this be true, it is simply incredible that, when all his disabilities are removed, and our prognathous relative has a fair field and no favor, as well as no oppressor, he will be able to compete successfully with his bigger-brained and smaller-jawed rival, in a contest which is to be carried on by thoughts and not by bites." -- Thomas Huxley

"The Negroid stock is even more ancient than the Caucasian and Mongolians, as may be proved by an examination not only of the brain, of the hair, of the bodily characteristics, but of the instincts, the intelligence. The standard of intelligence of the average adult Negro is similar to that of the eleven-year-old-youth of the species Homo sapiens." -- Henry Fairfield Osborn

Let's not try too hard to be what God never created us to be. Why do you envy sewer rats?

OLAADEGBU:
Are you saying the woman speaking in the videoclip doesn't confirm the blog or that she is not Pst. Anita?



If bloggers and papers say the truth and this is confirmed then what's wrong with that? It only becomes a problem when they begin to stretch the truth. This OP has been corroborated by the videoclip that Lobeez posted and you will have to eat your humble pie.

Anita has not given her blog on the clip. So that is no corroboration.
Gombs will tell you am not Oyaks sheeple like him but I don't stoop that low in attacking those I differ with.

Am not surprised to learn you are a Deeper Life Pharisee. Your creed is 'am not as other men'

5solas:
The gospel is offensive by nature, go and learn what Christ meant when He said:
Luke 4

A gift freely offered to all but with only a bunch enabled to receive it is not genuine

ABDULADINO,5solas
Could you please share with me on the fate of the stillborn or those who dies shortly after birth?
Are they equally condemned?

5solas:
When you are able to grasp the simple, basic things of the faith, then and only then, would we go on to the harder ones.
For now, you need milk and not strong meat.

You can't answer because it is embarrassing. You are ashamed of your beliefs

ABDULADINO:
The arminius mocker...According to calvinism( am not one though)..Jesus Christ died for all the Father gave Him to save..next time do your home work properly.

Am asking ABDULADINO not Calvinism.
Why can't/won't you answer this question?

Why is everyone not saved yet Jesus died for all men?

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ABDULADINO:
Perseverance is up to the believer.

Am asking why everyone is not saved yet Christ died for all. Is His blood inaccessible to some?

ABDULADINO,5solas
Could you please share with me on the fate of the stillborn or those who dies shortly after birth?
Are they equally condemned?

5solas:
Thanks. I got some insight on that verse today. Vooks seems to be implying that those who sinned " without the law" shall be judged "without the law" and some of them will "pass".

What is the fate of the many who never heard of Sinai nor Calvary like your great great great grandfather?

ABDULADINO:
Irrelevant..one man sin condemned ALL. Romans 5:12.

Guess someone is not reading his bible properly.

What is the fate of the many who never heard of Sinai nor Calvary like your great great great grandfather?

davidiyke:
You are very free to have and air your opinion of me.
I am grateful to God for making me who I am and I shall continue to enjoy serving him till death.
If you keep watching and reading you shall soon be inundated with more testimonies because as we speak my God is still in the business of touching lives for good.

I have enough of the gospel, I don't need it embellished with unverifiable 'miracles'. It is sweet and complete as it is

jiggaz:
It is you that Jesus will spit out of his mouth!!!! You this deluded self righteous Pharisee!!!!

God bless you

What gives u the right to know who will make Heaven or not??

The Word of God. Workers of iniquity have no place in heaven. They are children of wrath
Luke 13:27 (KJV)
But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity

Look lemme tell you, if not for the GRACE of God, this your self righteousness ( which is a filthy rag before God ) will not take you anywhere. It is written in the Bible that Salvation is by Grace through faith, and it is the work of God lest any man should boast.

Salvation is by grace THROUGH faith.
Faith is the condition for your salvation
Faith is not salvation, it is the CONDITION for your salvation
Here
Acts 16:30-31 (KJV)
And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? 31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. 32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.

I pity you, so you think that The death of CHRIST on the Cross is not enough so you can add your filthy Self Righteousness to make up for your Salvation?

Since the death of Jesus is 'enough' why are not all men saved merely because Jesus died and rose again?

God calls it PRIDE!!!! Abraham was counted as a man of righteousness because of his FAITH in God alone, not by his WORKS.

Why is wrought by faith is kept by faith.
Here;
John 15:6 (KJV)
If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

If you are not comforted by Eternal Security, plz go ahead with your WORKS but don't try to deceive other people into it.

I don't want false hopes to comfort me, I want the Truth

That's why your kind live depressed lives full of condemnation and guilt , that is your own wahala. I have comfort that my righteousness is the righteousness of CHRIST by FAITH.

ABIDE in Christ or you will be cast away and burned in fire

Nobody can snatch me out of the hand of the father & son, not you or your Religious / Judaism doctrine......

But like the prodigal son, you can walk away from all that

You can argue with the Birds, i am through with you. And please don't quote me AGAIN!!!!!

2 Timothy 4:3-4 (KJV)
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

5solas:
Please tell us what Calvinist teaching you consider to be false.

EXHAUSTIVE DETERMINISM

malvisguy212:
The scripture teaches predestination, but not Calvinistic Predestination.

Calvinism is an empty human philosophy full of contradictions and redefined termx

davidiyke:
It was always there just that you had'nt the eyes , mind and heart to see it.
We Prayed is different from I prayed!
And gifts are not the same.

You are drawing men to yourself not to Christ

Rilwayne001:
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