Christianity Etc › Re: Why Pastors Must Not Live In Extravagance by vooks(op): 4:02pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
masterchi: the pastors are not the only ones getting filty rich. There are so many rich people who trace their wealth to the teachings of these pastors. Most of these pastors dnt even get salary from their church. so many churches in Nigeria burn so much on charity, They wont advertise so you wont know about it. And they wont even count to you becos of ur bias. Finally the church is not the govt, the church dont drill oil, the church dont mine gold or coal or whatever, the govt does so let the govt play her role and when they fail blame them dont blame the pastors There are equally many satanists and pagans who have prospered immensely without ever hearing about seed nonsense. It's all probabilities Negro. Out of a pool of say 200 needy suckaz, a few will get out of the rut. Jesus commanded us to do charity. Cornelius was heard for charity among others. Maybe you should write to Him and advise him to 'correct' scriptures because we now have social security  |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Do Negroes Hope To Achieve By Claiming To Be Jews/israelites? by vooks(op): 3:58pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
MrPresident1: We will need to consider the etymology of words and try to situate meanings in the context of the Holy Scriptures. I respectfully ask you to please tell me the meaning of the word 'Caucasian'?
Does it have anything to do with rocks and caves? Negro, Eistein was Negro as was Jobs and Gates |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Is TB Joshua Hiding In Mexico? by vooks(op): 3:56pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
TB Joshua and a team of loyal Spanish speaking sheeple including Foolishman Racine have been conspicuously missing from SCOAN since Mexico Crusade.
Our Negro needs Spanish translators during his exile in Mexico. Please pray for the charlatan to repent and turn to Christ. I fear the 116 human sacrifices may drive him to suicide |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Do Negroes Hope To Achieve By Claiming To Be Jews/israelites? by vooks(op): 3:51pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
MrPresident1: Vooks vooks, my Negro, how are you? 
See the predicament of my people here: Malachi 2:9 Therefore have I also made you contemptible and base before all the people, according as ye have not kept my ways, but have been partial in the law.
Am cool ma negro Adam was negro. Angels are negro, satan was Caucasian right? |
Christianity Etc › Re: President Buhari Orders Closure Of Aso Rock Villa Church by vooks: 3:49pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
I don't wish Buhari dies in power like his other Muslim predecessors |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Do Negroes Hope To Achieve By Claiming To Be Jews/israelites? by vooks(op): 3:46pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
MrPresident1, Have you outgrown this foolishness? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Pastors Must Not Live In Extravagance by vooks(op): 3:45pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
Bishopmayowa: We have them plenty in Nigeria, No names tho The last place you want to look for a genuine example of prosperity gospel results is in a pasta. Them negroes prosper off your seed whether you reap or not. And worse, they don't have to wait seed-time/harvest-time nonsense coz they reap instantly!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Pastors Must Not Live In Extravagance by vooks(op): 3:43pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
fromnigeria: Only God Can Judge Us--Pac So, why was Pac whining about police brutality instead of letting God judge?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Pastors Must Not Live In Extravagance by vooks(op): 3:42pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
BeeBeeOoh: It is only in Nigeria that pastors will dry ur pocket in d name of "tapping blessings & multiple offerings.. I have no problem with emptying my pocket for a genuine need such as an empty stomach or a naked body somewhere, but certainly to to fund another Negro's fantasies supposedly so I can receive a 100 fold Ever wondered if the hundredfold really wokrs, why do these pastas keep coming to your for more? Shouldn't they have reaped enough already? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Pastors Must Not Live In Extravagance by vooks(op): 3:39pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
Heavenly102: Why don't worshippers demand to see the financial books of the Church and see where the money is going, the tithes and offerings are for soul-winning not for pastors to get rich on Actually, the richer them pastas, the more opaque they get. They fear the truth more than hell itself because it would liberate their sheeple |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Pastors Must Not Live In Extravagance by vooks(op): 3:37pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
frosbel2: What a wonderfully written article though I will not advocate for preachers of the gospel to go around smelling without practising good personal hygiene 
But the truth is that the majority of these so called MOG aka pastors are after the people because of their $$$$.
Wait for their money loving supporters to start supporting this gross evil and wickedness.
The hypocrites keep promising the reward of heaven to their poor followers on earth while making a paradise for themselves on earth, hypocrites !!
They should do what Jesus commanded, sell all their loot wealth and distribute the money to the poor of their congregations. You can bet the richer they be, the less charity they engage in. Paul aggressively collected charity yet when it came to his own rights as a minister, he forfeited this. Am looking for that minister who works so as not to burden others. They are as rare as a Taliban US President |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Pastors Must Not Live In Extravagance by vooks(op): 3:35pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
spencerwilliams: Good writeup @op,the truth is that pastors nd preachers of this age have missed it,but they still bring up reasons to justify their extravagant lifestyle for them to continue deceiving the flocks of Christ.No wonder Jesus told peter "loveth me more than these"three good times he asked peter that almost got him iritated,and jesus said "FEED MY LAMBS".Now the question is:Are the preachers of today really feeding the flocks or have they abandoned the flocks and turned their belly? May GOD help us. This concept of superstars is totally foreign and under 100 years young. They will tell you it's a 'new' revelation but it aint. Holy Spirit spoke about it 1900 years ago 2 Peter 2:3 King James Version (KJV) 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.And long before this, Jesus said you should give what you have received freely |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Pastors Must Not Live In Extravagance by vooks(op): 3:32pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
tpiander: Op
Thou shall not covet.
If you must covet, then earnestly desire the gifts of God. God bless you sir for this revelation. Only the Negro with the purse waxes fatter by the day. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Pastors Must Not Live In Extravagance by vooks(op): 3:31pm On Sep 03, 2015 |
masterchi: I dont like people telling others how to live. pastor goes around begging, you complain, pastor is rich and has a comfortable life, you complain. When will people learn to start minding their business? How a pastor decides to spent his money is not your business. Make your own and spend it the way you want. Simple. Pastors are not the reason africa is poor, the govts are. Channel your anger to the govts and leave the pastors to live in peace. There is every reason to be concerned when only the pastas are getting filthy rich by the day. This is charity mullah for heaven sake! Take youur church Negro, Tell us how much your church burns on your pasta vis a vis how much they burn on charity |
Christianity Etc › Re: "I Tolerated Abuse For Long" - Anita Oyakhilome Breaks silence on divorce by vooks: 10:50am On Sep 03, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: You better catch fish for Christ and not for Chris.  Catch them for Jesus not Kumuyi |
Christianity Etc › Re: "I Tolerated Abuse For Long" - Anita Oyakhilome Breaks silence on divorce by vooks: 10:49am On Sep 03, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: If you truly held our Lord Jesus Christ in high regard you will not be preaching the doctrines of men instead of that of Christ. You look like an old Negro; leave gossip to kids |
Christianity Etc › Re: Believe In God For Establishment! Believe His Prophet For Prosperity! by vooks: 10:47am On Sep 03, 2015 |
davidiyke: Hell bound atheists masquerading as christians are worth the devils reward.
Our glorious God continues to touch lives in marvelous ways. Many lives saved as the message was preached accompanied by great miracles and testimonies last Saturday. The Increase is a sign of God's release. Depart from me you workers of iniquity; I never knew you. Those were prophets and miracle workers who never knew the person behind the very name they were invoking |
Christianity Etc › Re: Funny Things We Christians Say Without Checking by vooks: 8:32am On Sep 02, 2015 |
sportsmaster: WHEN YOU GIVE MONEY IN THE OFFERING BAH,IT SHALL BE GIVEN BACK TO YOU,GOOD MEASURE PRESEED DOWN,SHAKEN TOGETHER AND RUNNING OVER.
Really? Which verse? luke 6:38 Give,and it shall be given unto you,good mesure,pressed down and shaken together,and running over,shall men give into your bosom.For with the same mesure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.
Are you sure he was talking about giving offerings? He sure wasn't!
Check the pretext:
Luke6:35-37 But love ye your enemies and do good,and lend hoping for nothing again;and your reward shall be great ,and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
36Be ye therefore merciful,as your Father also is merciful.
37 Judge Not and ye shall not be judged:condemn not and ye shall not be condemned:forgive and Ye shall be forgiven:
he was referring to mercy and Judgement which are non-material;spiritual deeds.In fact he had earlier mentioned giving material things and expecting NOTHING in return.
Luke 6:30-34 30Give to every man that asketh of thee;and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
31And as ye would that men should do to yout,do ye also to them likewise.
32for if ye love them which love you,what thank have ye?for sinners also love those that love them.
33And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive,what thank have ye? For sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again
Can you see? A corresponding text will be enough
Matt 7:1-2 1Judge not,that ye be not judged.
2For with that judgement ye judge,ye shall be judged:and with what measure ye mete,it shall be measured you again.
Judge the way you want to be Judged!
Does He mean God doesn't prosper us when we give?
He does when we give and does when we dont give!.
He is our father. No earthly Father does "value exchange" with his kids before he takes care of them!
hope its clear?
remain Blessed Cc vooks,Gombs,scholar8200. Excellent! Paul was heavy on charity and he never hesitated collecting an offering for the poor from the very dirt poor. But for his own need, he resisted burdening nobody. If at all there is a giving that should be emphasized, it would be charity and not pampering a pulpit love-vendor. Unfortunately charity is unpopular because the beneficiary is not the collector but somebody else unlike other offerings which go into the love-vendor's wallet |
Christianity Etc › Why Pastors Must Not Live In Extravagance by vooks(op): 5:43am On Sep 02, 2015 |
Two years ago, several pictures went viral. No, not Kaz’s nude photos. They were photos of a popular televangelist’s palatial residence. The house, built in the lush green fields of Runda looked every bit the palace, complete with an outdoor swimming pool, a lawn and an outdoor gazebo that is easily what some people call home. The pastor in question was also said to be driving a top-of the Range SUV, and basically living the life of a Saudi Prince. In a newspaper interview on a day before Valentine’s Day about two years ago, the couple posed in their expensive Harley Davidson bikes. They were looking all lovey dovey as they narrated how they race against each other in their bikes. Never mind a second hand Harley Davidson bike retails for nothing less than Sh 1 Million.
How times have changed! Pastors are no longer the broke Men of God who drove old, smoky rickety, jalopies. They are no longer the sweat-smelling men who would walk miles from home to home, praying for the sick, braving the swelting January heat and harsh chilly July weather. They are no longer the humble men of God who who exuded utter patience with their flock, praying reverently for them, without expecting anything in return. Pastor’s homes are no longer the refuge for stranded flock who would walk in unannounced for a free meal or a place to crash for a night or two. They are heavily guarded mansions deemed ‘no-go-zones’ for anyone without an invite.
Pastor today are little kings with cronies who worship the ground they walk on; living in little kingdoms where nobody can dare question their word. Their homes- palatial homes are big enough to be churches, their cars can be sold to educate 100 children for a whole year and their salaries can feed six families for an entire year. Their children drive the latest cars, shop with credit cards and hang out in the best restaurants in town. They also study abroad, because even the most expensive local schools are too cheap for them. Their wives are little queens with numerous servants at their beck and call. Being pastor’s wife is no longer the calling it used to be, but a title. A title to be revered and worshipped. They wine and dine in exclusive golf clubs in the city, catch them dead sharing a meal you normal people who bankroll their lives.
At this point, I would like to remind you about Jesus. Jesus, as we know Him, was the meek Messiah born in a manger, raised in a carpenter’s household, walked with 12 normal chaps and rode on a borrowed donkey on his last journey to Jerusalem. He was a humble bloke who loved to hang out with children, prostitutes, failures, widows and lepers. He walked miles to preach the Gospel, multiplied fish and bread for his flock and ate after everyone had eaten to their fill.
Forget the fact that he was the Son of the Most High; this bloke called Jesus would go for holiday in the wilderness for 40 days and 40 nights without food, praying, fasting and connecting with his maker. When this guy Jesus was about to die and then ascend to heaven, he gave his disciples an assignment. He told the ‘Go ye!” (Mark 16:15) which says: “And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.” The idea was for His disciples to follow in the footsteps of Christ, to preach the word of God, heal the sick, and exorcise demons until their time on earth is done. Their duty was simple but tough, to be fishers of men, and lead the flock to Christ.
But what did they do? They started well, I won’t lie. Until they discovered that the flock was not only lost, but desperate as well. Then they began taking advantage of the flock. Asking them to pay for prayers, taxing them for healing miracles. They forgot their summum bonum (their highest good, their best example) Jesus Christ and started to love the world and its trappings.
I daresay pastors, bishops, apostles…anyone who purports to be a Man of the Cloth should not and must not live a life of luxury and extravagance. If your Pastor is the kind that lives the life of a Saudi Prince, then you, my friend are in the wrong church. If securing an appointment with your pastor will take longer than securing an appointment with the president, then you should leave that church. Oh, and if you fear your pastor more than you fear God, then why are we even having this conversation?
If these men of God, who cannot wine and dine with their flock, but have lunch at exclusive clubs with God knows who, are truly men of God, then they should follow the example of Christ to the letter. The hallmark of Christ’s ministry was humility and modesty. I mean, Christ was the Son of the God. He would have chosen to be born in a palace rather than a manger. He would have chosen 12 princes rather than 12 normal chaps to be his disciples. He would have smacked hard the prostitutes that came to him, but he loved them and accepted them and told them their sins were forgiven. Heck, he would have wined and dined with the kings and not waste time with normal people who cannot buy enough wine at their weddings! He would have used chariots instead of a borrowed donkey on his journey to Jerusalem. Think of it, if Jesus had a dollar for every miracle he performed, how rich would he be? But guess what, He did not!
Why? Because ministry is not about an individual, but about the Gospel. It is not about lavish lifestyles, choppers, ranger rover sports, palatial Runda home and limousines (Wake up, Prophet Owuor) but about the Gospel. It’s impact. The people who accept Christ. The sick healed. Children prayed for. The blind who see for the first time. The criminals who change their ways. The prostitutes who return to their first love (not you, Pst Njoroge). The people delivered. It is not about the money (Wake up, Pastor Kanyari), it is about the love. The solace. The healing.
So next time you are in church and your pastor boasts how he was on holiday in London with his wife, ask him how he feels about fasting for 40 days and 40 nights.https://njokichege./2013/09/16/why-pastors-must-not-live-in-extravagance/
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Christianity Etc › Re: I Can Cast Out The Demons In Sonoflucifer And Free Him by vooks: 5:01pm On Sep 01, 2015 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Calvinism Vs Arminianism - Whose View Is Right? by vooks: 1:52pm On Sep 01, 2015 |
ABDULADINO: Hahaha..Prof "They" is an error too.Are you in such a hurry to respond?  Funny negro |
Christianity Etc › Re: Calvinism Vs Arminianism - Whose View Is Right? by vooks: 12:03pm On Sep 01, 2015 |
ABDULADINO: No need to prof..An amateur can't correct a professor of scriptures. They why do you claim there are errors? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Earth Is Not 6000 Years Old. by vooks: 12:02pm On Sep 01, 2015 |
davien: You're right, dirt or dust is a silly origin story.. and what did the Bible say about dirt becoming man? It's silly. Tell me something wise |
Christianity Etc › Re: "I Tolerated Abuse For Long" - Anita Oyakhilome Breaks silence on divorce by vooks: 12:01pm On Sep 01, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: Maybe you should hold Jesus and His Words in high regard instead of cossying up to men of low estate.  I do hold Jesus in high regard. But I must admit I keep running into Negroes working super hard to be low life |
Christianity Etc › Re: "I Tolerated Abuse For Long" - Anita Oyakhilome Breaks silence on divorce by vooks: 3:35am On Sep 01, 2015 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Calvinism Vs Arminianism - Whose View Is Right? by vooks: 3:33am On Sep 01, 2015 |
ABDULADINO:
The PROFESSOR OF THEOLOGY. I believe you saw that another party (Ubenedictus) agree with what i have been saying all along that Luther agrees with some point of Calvin's which had been consistent with all my posts so far both in this thread and the other one. 5solas was right that your posts are error ridden. You hardly make research, only to quarrel with folks that don't agree with you and throwing tantrums and obscenities on the forum. You can't point ANY errors, but heckling you can |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Earth Is Not 6000 Years Old. by vooks: 3:33am On Sep 01, 2015 |
davien: Don't flatter yourself, I'm not the one debating you... And creationism borders on your very plea of arguments from ignorance (I. e can't explain x completely, therefore y ) It's not that you can't as yet, it's just that 'in the begining DIRT...' is the most ret@rded thing ever. I have never understood why evolutionists divorce Origins from their theories. Who is supposed to account for origins? Orang-utans? |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Can Cast Out The Demons In Sonoflucifer And Free Him by vooks: 9:01pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
SonOfLucifer had an epiphany after a NDE |
Christianity Etc › Re: RCCG Suspends Pastor Over Pasuma’s Invitation by vooks: 8:52pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
Mariecakes: What was the pastor thinking Who told you he was thinking at all in the first place? |
Christianity Etc › Re: "I Tolerated Abuse For Long" - Anita Oyakhilome Breaks silence on divorce by vooks: 8:45pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
OLAADEGBU: The link to the blog has already been posted on this thread and I would not be surprised if you haven't seen it because you only choose what you want to see and believe.
Repent for tomorrow may be too late.
I thank God for that, are you a sheeple or a wolf in sheep's clothing?
When you've run out of bullets the next thing is for you to begin to throw eggs, bananas and tomatoes. typical.  Did Christ save you to gossip about Oyakhilome? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Believe In God For Establishment! Believe His Prophet For Prosperity! by vooks: 8:43pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
davidiyke: PIMPS? The gospel need not your type for its defence. The GOSPEL is complete! YOU ARE WHO NEEDS DEFENCE AS YOU UNPROFESSIONALLY SEEK TO DEFEND YOUR FACELESS NATURE! I PITY YOU! Meanwhile, Glory to God for His great works. Sister & Bro Joy were just blessed with a bouncing baby girl! The girl came with the buttocks; The doctors wanted a caesarian section but we prayed on phone and God Almighty gave us assurance that the delivery would be without surgery. The news has just come and the delivery was without surgery. Glory to this great God of Miracles! Additionally, thanks for keeping this thread ALIVE! PulpitPimps are worth a dime a dozen |
Christianity Etc › Re: Believe In God For Establishment! Believe His Prophet For Prosperity! by vooks: 6:41pm On Aug 31, 2015 |
davidiyke: I have thrown no curse, only an advice given. On the contrary you called me names that are insulting. Keep believing in error I pray the end does not meet you in error. You are free to keep commenting on this thread. It is also good that you do not have a name and completely not identifiable. If by any way I find out you are a part of the owners of Nairaland I shall stop using Nairaland because I care about those I associate with. My friends or critics must be IDENTIFIABLE! I defend the gospel not criticize pimps |