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Rossikk:
WRONG AGAIN. Daniel 10, 5-6: "His arms and legs were the colour of burnished bronze".

If he was as ugly as you are, would that stop you from being a pointy nosed child molester cum mass murderer?

Jesus complexion is irrelevant to Christianity and Western civilization and it is not responsible for your backwardness

Daniel 10:5-6 (ESV)
5 I lifted up my eyes and looked, and behold, a man clothed in linen, with a belt of fine gold from Uphaz around his waist. 6 His body was like beryl, his face like the appearance of lightning, his eyes like flaming torches, his arms and legs like the gleam of burnished bronze, and the sound of his words like the sound of a multitude.

For your information, this was an angel , he was overpowered by Prince of Persia and an archangel Michael had to come to his aid. This is not Jesus my broda

Daniel 10:13-14 (ESV)
13 The prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me twenty-one days, but Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I was left there with the kings of Persia, 14 and came to make you understand what is to happen to your people in the latter days. For the vision is for days yet to come.”

Rossikk:
WRONG AGAIN. Daniel 10, 5-6: "His arms and legs were the colour of burnished bronze".

Ok, I withdraw that.

Now, please draw a face shining like the sun with WHITE hair as white wool and snow, and don't tell us tales of 'glory of heaven' for that is not what scriptures are telling us.

Once you do that, please revert.


I have shown you some of the OLDEST depictions of Jesus Christ dating 400AD when one can hardly claim white-black racism existed yet they depicted Jesus as anything but a Negro. This should shatter your your theory to smithereens.

For the umpteenth time,Jesus was anything but black. If the depictions shifted away from the 'true Jesus', it certainly was NEVER away from Negro. Arabs should be whining and having fits more than Negroes over any 'alteration' of Jesus depiction

analice107:
LOL. I have written what seems like a book, but i just closed it up. It's well. Maybe someday I will try bringing it out.

@vooks. Am feeling guilty, like am derailing this thread. What I post here is outside what this thread is intended for. I feel I shd chill(?)

Hi Anas09,
Please don't stop, you are refreshing many here no doubt. Please don't. Just suffer us to meditate on them for a while and then continue as the Lord leads you

Rossikk:
I have ZERO interest in how your fellow racists depicted Jesus. ALL THAT MATTERS IS HOW THE BIBLE DESCRIBED HIM. You and your satanic ilk are the ones trying to rewrite history, by redrawing Jesus with your pig faced, pointy Pinnochio nose and dreary pale skin. We reject that.

Jesus is described with face shining like the sun. How Igbo is that?

Rossikk:
Gorilla dunce, his face is described as shining because of the glory of heaven beamed on him. It doesn't mean he was a white man.

Don't be a mor0n. So the 'glory of heaven' never got to the feet?
And drop strawman,nobody makes Jesus white an apart from your hallucinations. Jesus was middle Eastern and I'd expect him to look thus. Not that it matters.

Once again, if he was as ugly as you are, would that add moi moi to your clan and slash your infant mortality ?

This is clarified by his hair being described as wooly,

Revelation is clear, white as snow, as wool. So the similarity between them is COLOR

Revelation 1:14 (ESV)
14 The hairs of his head were white, like white wool, like snow.

If the hair was wooly, was it equally snowy?

and the rest of his body - not just his feet - described as being the colour of burnished bronze, ie black.

Not so you fool, only his feet are described as brass in furnace

Rossikk:
Liar, will you shut up? Do Arabs have wooly hair? Do Arabs have skin like burnished bronze? Tell me, do you actually know what wool looks like? Illiterate mongoose.

Neanderthal,
Let me school you in exegesis

Daniel 7:9 (ESV)
As I looked,
thrones were placed,
and the Ancient of Days took his seat;
his clothing was white as snow,
and the hair of his head like pure wool;

Hair LIKE pure wool. One must ask, exactly HOW is his hair like wool?

The answer is given in Revelation
Revelation 1:14-16 (ESV)
14 The hairs of his head were white, like white wool, like snow. His eyes were like a flame of fire, 15 his feet were like burnished bronze, refined in a furnace, and his voice was like the roar of many waters. 16 In his right hand he held seven stars, from his mouth came a sharp two-edged sword, and his face was like the sun shining in full strength.

The comparison is with the COLOR.

Next, how do Arabs with 'normal' hair look like?
[img]http://4.bp..com/_P4WDBG3WZi8/TUhcLQZk7KI/AAAAAAAABQE/NqUFyapml7k/s1600/curly-hair-tehran-iran-0.jpg[/img]

Remember these are artistic depictions. One thing we know about Jews is that the men kept the hair short. Short of course is relative but only Nazirites never cut their hair. So we can rule out long flowing hair as often depicted.

Concerning your trump card 'burnished bronze', note while the feet are described as 'burnished bronze', his face is described as sun shining I. Full strength'.
[img]http://www.wallpapermania.eu/images/lthumbs/2013-01/4086_Bright-sun-on-a-blue-sky.jpg[/img]
How Negro is this?

Next, is burnished bronze black?
https://www.google.com/search?q=burnished+bronze&client=ms-opera-mini-iphone&channel=new&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjD0fjMpo7KAhXBohQKHYRkAswQ_AUIBygB&biw=981&bih=630



Did it ever cross your puny brain why OP ignores the face and focuses on the feet? He is a biased amateur Afrocentrist on a fishing expedition

Rossikk:
Sorry, but you cannot build truth on a bed of lies and distortion. If his colour is irrelevant, then why was it altered in the first place? How does burnished bronze skin and kinky hair transform to white skin and straight blonde hair?

The only lie I see is the claim that his color was altered. Who altered it, and to what was it altered?

Go through these oldest depictions of Jesus and show me any that remotely resembles your wide horse nose

KingEbukasBlog:
Am not sure what Jesus being black benefits the black man . People be focusing on the wrong things instead of the message Christ brought to the world and the purpose of his death and resurrection

Bros,
Afrocentricism is mental sickness
You don't solve nothing by rewriting history. Have you seen claims that Jews were Negroes or even more ludicrous, that Igbos were Jews?

Sometimes back I observed my younger cousins playing a game. They were alternating in claiming ownership of each car that drove by their house. After twenty or so counts, the one with the highest number of Mercedes won. Is is exactly how Afrocentricism achieves; illusions

Look at Egypt, a verifiable and indisputable ancient civilization. What has their past served them beyond tourism and hollow pride? If they don't invest in education and poverty eradication, and instead kill time butchering each other they are as worse off as Burundi or DRC.


Jesus was not Caucasian but more like an Arab. We don't have his photos but throughout ages there has been artistic impressions of Jesus. These vary from place to place, and are non-issues as you observed.

Claiming that Jesus was black because burning bronze is super stupid bro. That's idiocy for his face is described as white, but these amateurs skeptics who just copy and paste garbage here form internet hope to look smart than they really in the process. One ought to digest or chew through and not swallow whole whatever they throw at you

AheadMarket:
Are u satisfied, yet?

Or was it Eshua?
Get an education son and stop embarrassing motherland

Rossikk:
Liar. You've been claiming a white Jesus here against all evidence, and now that I've trounced you, you claim you're indifferent. Liar. You've lost the debate. Admit it and get lost.

I said Jesus was middle Eastern, more Arabic but not white. If you have dyslexia, I can't help with that. Western Education can

My IQ is probably at least TWICE yours, which is why I always whup your dumb asss in any confrontation. Now bugger off back to your trailer park, or Stormfront, you ignorant, gnat-brained nonentity.

If your IQ is twice and above average in Africa, look no further for evidence of your arrested evolution

freeze22:
You didn't answer my questions brother... anyway there's no point in arguing with you. Perhaps I should have followed the good advice in Prov 26:4 a long time ago.

They say a fool is regarded as wise when they hold their peace

lilbest4:
lol getting melted? Don't be hard bro. So you agree that the writer of revelation hard no knowledge about space. Because there's no way we would keep discarding plausibility. It's very obvious that the passage was referring to the stars in the sky. It's in plain English and you were trying to twist.

Revelation is written in apocalyptic and it is full of visions and stuff that obviously defy seem to physical laws
You have a woman wearing the sun and the moon
You have animals with several heads some of different animals
You have women standing in space
You have animals rising out of water
And so forth

If your faith rises and falls on Revelation, then you are a fool

Annunaki:
Of course they do, a lot of wealthy muslims in nigeria became wealthy by the sponsorship they got from saudi arabia for promoting their wahabi version of sunni islam. But the shittes are not left out of this bonanza as iran also spends a lot of money to finance those propagating the shitte version of islam globally. Elzakzaky the Nigerian shitte leader currently under detention is a major beneficiary of the Iranian shitte largesse.

Hmmm, OK!
What did Osama subscribe to?

Rossikk:
Shut your stinking racist mouth. Your saviour is black, as noted by your own bible. You can't handle that truth because your demonic racism won't let you. Whose problem is that? Dumbito. You yourself clearly lack proper education, since you don't know what wooly hair or burnished bronze looks like, so it's not in your place to advise others. Educate your own self first. Stup.id knucklehead dunce.

Idiot,
I'm indifferent to Jesus skin color because it does not add nor substract nothing from Christianity. But I like the fact that primitive Neanderthals fantasize accelerating their stalled evolution by revising history

So if Jesus was your fellow Igbo kinsman that would magically change your IQ?
Bloody fool

Annunaki:
Yes it's serious apotasy oh! The sunnis don't consider the shittes to be muslims. They consider them as heretics and you know how the quoran teaches them to deal with heretics. I am sure you are aware what isis does anytime they lay their hands on an unfortunate shitte member.

Unbelievable, unremarkable.
Am sure Saudi burns billions propagating Sunni ideologies and trashing Shiit

Rossikk:
Your gorilla mother screws stray pigs and dogs for free, so it's hard to place a mongrel like you. That's why you look and think like a donkey on all fours. Bet you smell like one too. Of course the colour was changed. How could a long, blonde haired Swedish looking, white caucasian 'saviour' emerge from the middle east? Dumb idiott.

You may call everything Negro and that won't change your lot a single bit. So if I was in your shoes o deranged m0ron, I'd get busy exorcising primitivity from my head and my kin by WESTERN education instead of sulking and revising history as if history is a plate of moi moi enough to serve your entire tribe

lilbest4:
Always twisting.

Revelation 8:12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.

You Still think it's not referring to the physical stars seen at night, Stars, sun and the the moon? Or does the sun and the moon mean another spirit?

Twisting what bro?
Jesus holding stars in his hand. What did I twist?

If you are going to be a skeptic, better brush up your brains because I got no time for pettiness

freeze22:
How about those who regard the grace of GOD as cheap grace, people who regard GOD'S grace as a license to continue in apostasy. I know your kind brother.

Paul says we should not sin so grace may abound.

Have you cared to read the previous verses prior to Romans 14:5,6 especially verse one were he talked about disputable matters? are the commandments of GOD disputable matters? was the word Sabbath mentioned in any of the verses? have you tried to establish a link between days and meats mentioned in the verses with other verses like Isaiah 58, to get the context?

Days and food are not 'disputable'. God is indifferent to these.
Isaiah equally talks of New moons and not just sabbaths. Do you keep Jewish New moons? Of course you don't. Why do you cherry pick?

I know your kind; brainwashed by Ellen White

So how do you explain col 3:23? a license to do whatever you want as unto the LORD right? let me guess...emmm you can steal heartily unto the LORD right? did you say No?or maybe you can commit adultery heartily unto the LORD? No? How do you define sin? "Everyone who sins breaks the law, in fact, sin is lawlessness" 1John 3:4

Bro are you confused?
In Romans 14, Paul is clear that regarding any day or not regarding SHOULD be left to individual convictions. Can you imagine if sleeping with your mother is left to individual convictions!

The reason for this is simple; observing days is a non-issue. Remember Paul is writing to a community of Jews and Gentiles and most probably the days he had in mind was the sabbath. It can't be pagan days because he would have none of paganism, not to mention one can't observe pagan days 'unto to the Lord'.

The reason I raised the issue of 'unto the Lord' was to show you that Sunday fellowship held in the name of Jesus is something done 'unto the Lord'. What Law is there against such?

Rossikk:
If his colour meant nothing, then why was it altered from black to white in the first place? Ever asked yourself that? Olodo rabata.

Idiot,
No color was changed except in your hallucinations.
You probably with other Cro-Magnon monkeys think you are Jew

Rossikk:
Come on get lost and return to your filthy trailer park, you brain-dead pig.

Fool
Who else was Negro?
Bill Gates

He is Ghanian albino

Rossikk:
Typical cry baby mommy's boy pig. Trounce him on the facts and he throws up all his toys and tells you to take them. Who could possibly evolve you from stinky little pig with no brains to human? Not even your BLACK saviour can, in my view. Worthless little shiit.

Buffoon,
You do realize Africa's problems are not rooted in a 'stolen history' but in primitivity,graft and laziness?

lilbest4:
lol this was a clear and literally expression

Revelation 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Explain this. And mind you I'm a Christian

Revelation 1:20 (KJV)
The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

I never aksd your faith because that is irrelevant. John equally saw stars, seven of them in the hands of Jesus, and we see Jesus telling him that the stars are angels (probably church leaders). Is this too hard for you to grasp?

freeze22:
you're truly a troubled person aren't you? you find it difficult to express yourself in a Christ like manner right? well I'm not here to mix words with you or any other person... I have played my role and if you don't like it......Here's my prayer for you. "Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you.Not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid." John 14:27

Now that you talk of Christ, here is what He expressed concerning the subject at hand;
Romans 14:5-6 (KJV)
One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

Whatever you do, do as unto the Lord and you have your reward
Colossians 3:23 (KJV)
And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;

So when I run into modern Pharisees with their nauseating holier-than-thou attitude, I pray that scales may fall off their eyes, that like Paul they may turn from the Law to serve the living Christ

lilbest4:
[NLT] Revelation 6:13 Then the stars of the sky fell to the earth like green figs falling from a tree shaken by a strong wind.

Hehehe imagine a star like uy scuti and those stars that are thousands of times larger than the earth fall omg Can't imagine that it's obvious that this revelation is not from the creator of the universe. Because whoever inspired it had no idea how big space is. Vooks, teempakguy,kingebukablog, pleatton, Jonnydon22 come and see

You do realize that stars are symbols of something else don't you?

donpata:
I am not a member of RCCG but i respect Adeboye and use his "Open Heavens" devotional for some 3yrs running. Ive been buying for arnd 1k and though i can easily afford it, i think it is relativly expensive. Truth is the aim of writing such books is for the Gospel of Christ to spread like wild fire. i look at our Christian community and see how people struggle with poverty of knowledge and poverty of pocket. I then wonder how such people wil b willing to cough out 1k for a devotional they want to even see reasons not to read.

To me, searching for God's knowledge should not be expensive. There are many devotionals that are even distributed freely. some on the other hand only charge for cost of production while others even subsidize and sell below production cost. I think the RCCG is too Big and strong a church to not freely give or subsidise its devotional so as to reach many who cant afford it. Better still, why dont they sell at cost price rather than still aiming for profit. Am using RCCG cos that's the most costly of my devotionals. "Everyday with Jesus", "Daily manna" " Daily Power" etc cost much lesser. [size=18pt]Abi is "Open Heavens" printed in Heaven?[/size]
My opinion sha.

I once started a thread on why ministers sell their sermons

https://www.nairaland.com/2073914/why-pastors-sell-sermons

There is a thin line between avarice and ministerial support

Anas09, we need your book oo

Annunaki:
Apotasy by beheading if they try it they hate each other more than they hate non muslims. The recent massacre of shitte muslims by the Nigerian army dominate by sunnis is a clear example of this. Majority of sunni muslims in Nigeria supported the massacre even though it was glaring the Nigerian army over reacted and murdered unarmed Nigerians in cold blood.

Wow,
Switching sects is apostasy?
#StrengthOfAWoman

Gombs:
Thanks alot for stopping by.


Cheers

Can I trust that you will notify me, or do I drop my number?
Rhapsody of Realities: Divorce 101 Edition

Rossikk:
Who is laughing with you? Pls go and laugh with your fellow racist devils on Stormfront or whatever filthy neo-nazi site you crawled out from. Pig shiit you.

Idiot,
Einstein was a Yoruba boy.
Steve Jobs as well.

Ascribe ALL innovation in the world to Igbos and let's see how that fast-tracks their evolution from Neanderthals to Homo Sapiens.

Rossikk:
Yeah..the bible writers who described your saviour as a BLACK MAN were "Afrocentrists". Walking dunce with no brain.

Mor0n,
He was an Igbo...happy now?
Go collect ten Nobels for your discovery

Gombs:
I wonder who that is!

Stop insulting folks... I wonder why vooks put up someone's pic here.. Who's Amos Jack?

See why vooks tire the patience out of me?


Meanwhile... Let's stick to the OP... Forget the frivolities of vooks.

.. Just for the record, I'm way cuter than that pic... And yes, I shave clean like Pastor Chris, low cut... And I use Samsung device.

When Oyaks preaches on divorce, I will gladly listen.

Rossikk:
No need for us to steal. All we need to do is rediscover our history, which we are doing. It is you and your ilk who need to stop stealing the history of others.

Afrocentricism induces hallucinations more than weed