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Christianity EtcRe: Come Let Us Worship Him by vooks(op): 10:42pm On Dec 24, 2015
plappville:
How does these verses connect to Christmas?
Christmas is celebration and commemoration of Incarnation
Christianity EtcRe: Come Let Us Worship Him by vooks(op): 10:26pm On Dec 24, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zh-yR0pbmU

[b]Holy Night Lyrics
Christmas Carol Lyrics

Pause Music !

O Holy Night! The stars are brightly shining,
It is the night of the dear Saviour's birth.
Long lay the world in sin and error pining.
Till He appeared and the Spirit felt its worth.
A thrill of hope the weary world rejoices,
For yonder breaks a new and glorious morn.
Fall on your knees! Oh, hear the angel voices!
O night divine, the night when Christ was born;
O night, O Holy Night , O night divine!
O night, O Holy Night , O night divine!

Led by the light of faith serenely beaming,
With glowing hearts by His cradle we stand.
O'er the world a star is sweetly gleaming,
Now come the wisemen from out of the Orient land.
The King of kings lay thus lowly manger;
In all our trials born to be our friends.
He knows our need, our weakness is no stranger,
Behold your King! Before him lowly bend!
Behold your King! Before him lowly bend!

Truly He taught us to love one another,
His law is love and His gospel is peace.
Chains he shall break, for the slave is our brother.
And in his name all oppression shall cease.
Sweet hymns of joy in grateful chorus raise we,
With all our hearts we praise His holy name.
Christ is the Lord! Then ever, ever praise we,
His power and glory ever more proclaim!
His power and glory ever more proclaim!
[/b]
HealthRe: Don't Drink And..... by vooks(op): 10:16pm On Dec 24, 2015
fckmn24seg:
Good
Why drink and drive?
Life moves on like you never existed

Christianity EtcRe: Why Nairalanders Lose Faith On The Religion Section Easily by vooks: 10:09pm On Dec 24, 2015
frank317:
Lol... I should ask for proof of my creator? How ridiculous do you sound right now. I should ask you, my fellow human for proof of my creator (a supposedly almighty powerful God). Isn't that funny?
Did u even read what u confidently wrote? The fact that you are asking me yo ask u for proof of God is another proof God does not exist.
Does the fact that you don't know Subaru manufacturer mean they never manufactured the Subaru?

You are funny

In short what you don't know does not exist. The blind man who has never seen the sun lives in a sunless Galaxy?

Is your reality governed by your knowledge?
Christianity EtcRe: Why Nairalanders Lose Faith On The Religion Section Easily by vooks: 8:20pm On Dec 24, 2015
frank317:
The best proof that God does not exist is the fact that there is no proof he exist.
You made that up. Be humble enough to at least say you don't have any proof. You can ask for proof of you are really interested.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by vooks: 7:27pm On Dec 24, 2015
dolphinheart:
Good to know that receiving jesus as king is done once every year by some people.
The celebration done on Dec 25th is nor the lords doing, its man made.
The pagans did not make a day, they choosed a day to celebrate their Gods, some now choosed that same day, using mostly the same methods and practices as used by the pagans to celebrate Christmas.
All these had no precedence in our worship to jehovah, jesus , his disciples, the apostles, early christians never formulated, observe or practise such religious celebration.
Hopelessly hollow reasoning

1.How often do you have holy communion?

2.If not on a daily basis? Does it mean that in between the communion you are not proclaiming nor remembering the Lord's death?

3.Pagans long chose Sunday to worship the sun. Christians chose the day to commemorate the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Do Christians worship the sun by setting apart Sunday?

4. Bible verses and chapters equally have no precedence in ' our worship to jehovah, Jesus , his disciples, the apostles, early christians never formulated, observe or practise such....'. Why do you use verses in your bible?

5. Had you lived in the first century, would you have you eaten food offered to idols?

6. Which scripture does celebrating the Incarnation and worshipping Jesus Christ violate?

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Christianity EtcRe: Why Nairalanders Lose Faith On The Religion Section Easily by vooks: 7:00pm On Dec 24, 2015
ValentineMary:
PROOF OF EVOLUTION:

First of all evolution is a gradual process that has to do with the adaptation of organisms to their environment. It deals with modification of cells, polypeptide sequence, etc.

Let us take the mitochondria and chloroplast for example. These organelles have their own DNA unlike anyother organelle. This is not what is striking. The striking part is that these organelles have circular DNA like the DNA of some prokaryotic cells. These organelles also divide when the cell divides. This is a proof that probably these organelles were prokaryotic cells that got into a eukaryotic cell and lost the ability to live independently. This is a proof of evolution.

Let us take another virulent cell eg trypanomiasis. When these cells are attacked by therapeutic agents like drug, the plasmid somehow codes for defence against these drugs. These modification can be inherited. This is another proof of evolution.

Let us also take some archeological findings. eg HOMO NADALIS, HOMO ERECTUS, etc. It is a known fact that these organisms have existed before but are no loger around. They are not humans, neither are they monkeys. So where did they all go tohuh The ans is simple. Evolution.

If I was told 50 years ago that evolution is not true, I would have believe but as of 2015, evolution is a known fact.
When dealing with 'evidence' of evolution, I usually ask for a definition of terms just to make sure we are on the same page. The reason is evolutionists are notorious for bait-and-switch tactics of switching meaning of terms into their arguments to confuse you. For instance, in one short paragraph you have defined evolution as adaptation and 'modification of cells'

Briefly define what evolution is and then give your BEST proof for it. Only then can we examine your 'proof'
Christianity EtcRe: Why Nairalanders Lose Faith On The Religion Section Easily by vooks: 6:45pm On Dec 24, 2015
frank317:
Nice one vooks, how ever, I wish you can understand when most religious folks as...can you prove God does not exist?

When it comes to your own belief... U guys quickly throw ur brains away.

(Meanwhile, my apologies if you have never asked such question)
It is a fact you can't prove that God doesn't exist, but this is no proof for existence of God.

Why this argument is employed by those who believe in God is because those who don't categorically CLAIM God does not exist. So it is actually a demand in them to substantiate their claims. At this point, they back down and actually claim there is no proof for God's existence. The theists will respond by asking what proof would suffice for them and so forth..... So you can see this is not really proving a negative but really demanding evidence for a claim. But I repeat, it is no proof for existence of God
HealthDon't Drink And..... by vooks(op): 6:40pm On Dec 24, 2015
Christianity EtcRe: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by vooks: 4:48pm On Dec 24, 2015
Image123:
It's a she, don't get us angry here. lol
Thank you for the correction.
Have you ever thought about real as opposed to imagined pagan practice of offering food to idols and then eating it in 1 Cor 8?

While it is debatable exactly how 'pagan' Christmas is, this was a clearly pagan practice yet Paul appeals to conscience. This tells me thAt Christmas even if it were to be proved 'pagan' is a far less offensive activity.

So I have always tried to get to the hearts of anti-Christmas brigade....what really motivates them in opposing it?

Probable reasons
1. They are raised in sects that oppose it and for conformity purposes, they oppose it as well regardless of how (un)founded the opposition is
2. They misunderstand the purpose of Christmas, and thus manifest a zeal but not according to knowledge
3. They are proud, self righteous bunch simply out to prove themselves better than the next guy
4. They are rebels without cause. Some will just oppose norm for the heck of it, they will sleep during the day and stay up at night just to be different

While I can't discern the motive for each opponent, I can easily pick sectarian opponents like dolphinheart because for the past 15 years, I have heard Jehovah's Witnesses regurgitating the arguments he is advancing here VERBATIM
Christianity EtcRe: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by vooks: 4:11pm On Dec 24, 2015
zeemahn:
Sure
When we meet my Negro...when we meet.

Merry Christmas and stay safe sir, I need to pick your brains next year cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Why Nairalanders Lose Faith On The Religion Section Easily by vooks: 3:55pm On Dec 24, 2015
ValentineMary:
It is funny how people make claims without proof to back them up. Pls can u prove that evolution is false before I go further?
Can't prove a negative. The burden of proof is on you to prove that it is true.

Can you prove that there is no a ten legged sub species of a buffalo?
Christianity EtcRe: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by vooks: 3:51pm On Dec 24, 2015
zeemahn:
ok
Can I buy you a drink?
Christianity EtcRe: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by vooks: 3:49pm On Dec 24, 2015
plappville:
Vooks, you sound very proud as if you know it all.... cheesy cool down bro.....
My brother, I don't even know a tithe of all there is to know. How can I be proud?
But one thing I know for sure, the 'pagan connection' in Christmas is blown out of proportion by a bunch of self-righteous feeble hearts, just like those who in 1 Cor 8 stumbled over food offered to idols
Christianity EtcRe: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by vooks: 3:46pm On Dec 24, 2015
plappville:
The fact that no prophet celebrated it is enough for us to know it was not important. If is not important it maybe for some reasons. We know that Jesus was Presented in the Temple - Eight days after He was born. As required by the law of Moses after the birth of a child. Many Christians do this today. They call it child dedication. Pagans do not do it. These are some of the examples we should follow. Not the ones invented from a pagan root. Jesus lived for more than 30 years bevore his death. If celebration of his birthday was to be an example for us. I think it will be written severally in the scriptures. There are many things the bible didnt tell us not to do. But with common sense we know that they are sin. I am not saying celebrating Jesus day is a sin. I am against lying to tag 25th of December as a specific day He was born even if the bible does not support that claim.
Jesus was not born on December 25th, it may have been implied so but we know it is not true.
Jesus' date of birth is irrelevant as is the date of his death. What is important is his birth and death and of course resurrection.

Christmas celebrates his birth, God/Word made flesh.

One may choose to major on minors such as church seating arrangement, choir, lighting, instruments in a church gathering, or major on the major; FELLOWSHIP.

Likewise on Christmas am least interested in Christmas tree, lighting, Santa and other minors. I wisely choose to focus on Christ , God manifested in the Flesh. I have little tolerance for pettiness cool

Please study 1 Corinthians 8 and tell me whether you'd stumble over food freshly offered to pagan deities
Christianity EtcRe: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by vooks: 3:27pm On Dec 24, 2015
dolphinheart:
Ones there is no derogatory statement(s),ill comment.
Once you have learnt what I have shared, I will proceed to demolish your hypocrisy and feebleness. Otherwise I will choke you with knowledge. Meditate on this first, and click OK when ready
Christianity EtcRe: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by vooks: 3:26pm On Dec 24, 2015
dolphinheart:
Create a thread for that and invite me, if there is no abusive, derogatory, demeaning speech mentioned there, I will comment.
This thread is about Christmas
You have appealed to watchtower mantra here and none of your own thinking so it is very relevant
Christianity EtcRe: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by vooks: 3:21pm On Dec 24, 2015
Avoidhellfire:
IRONY:CELEBRATING CHRISTMAS IS ALRIGHT BECAUSE JESUS TOLD YOU IN THE BIBLE TO CELEBRATE HIS BIRTHDAY.
A Christian should celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ in his or her heart everyday in order to appreciate the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. but when you set aside a particular day (December 25) and you start worshiping trees, so called demon looking elfs and a man in a red costume then you are worshiping the Babylonian God of the Catholics. the pagans of the world who disguise themselves as Christians and led by their father the pope . have deceived the people into celebrating their pagan Babylonian holiday as Christmas. I intentionally not observe so called Christmas to show the people that i am not been deceived. so on so called Christmas day, instead of wearing nice clothes as expected by those that seek to deceive, i wear my short knickers and i go and play football for the day. that's how i show my defiance.
What do you gain in showing your defiance?
Christianity EtcRe: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by vooks: 3:19pm On Dec 24, 2015
plappville:
The enjoyment of the socalled historical and unbiblical 25th December festival is so fun that many Christians will do anything to back it up with the bible just to be sure they are not celebrating as the pagans do. The bible gave only two birthday events. Both events were from pagans. King Pharaoh and Herod. Bothe birthday events took lifes. King Herod ’s birthday took John the Baptist head. While king Pharaoh’s killed his chief baker. It is important to read the whole book to understand how birthday led them in killing. They might have got drunk and feeling too proud on a special. None of the prophets celebrated birthday. This alone should tell you its not important. Why tag the Messiah with a world events?

That of King Pharaoh :
Genesis 40:20-23 Now it came to pass on the third day, which was Pharaoh’s birthday, that he made a feast for all his servants; and he lifted up the head of the chief butler and of the chief baker among his servants. Then he restored the chief butler to his butlership again, and he placed the cup in Pharaoh’s hand. But he hanged the chief baker, as Joseph had interpreted to them. Yet the chief butler did not remember Joseph, but forgot him.

And that of KING Herod :
Mark 6:14-29
20 For Herod feared John, knowing that he was a just man and an holy, and observed him; and when he heard him, he did many things, and heard him gladly.

21 And when a convenient day was come, that Herod on his birthday made a supper to his lords, high captains, and chief estates of Galilee;

22 And when the daughter of the said Herodias came in, and danced, and pleased Herod and them that sat with him, the king said unto the damsel, Ask of me whatsoever thou wilt, and I will give it thee.

23 And he sware unto her, Whatsoever thou shalt ask of me, I will give it thee, unto the half of my kingdom.

24 And she went forth, and said unto her mother, What shall I ask? And she said, The head of John the Baptist.

25 And she came in straightway with haste unto the king, and asked, saying, I will that thou give me by and by in a charger the head of John the Baptist.

26 And the king was exceeding sorry; yet for his oath's sake, and for their sakes which sat with him, he would not reject her.
Did you know there were no chapters or verses in the bible?
These were invented later. Does the fact that they are totally absent from the bible make them wrong?

Your job ought to be not just proving that birthdays are not celebrated in scriptures, but to prove how celebrating them contradicts any scriptures
Christianity EtcRe: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by vooks: 3:15pm On Dec 24, 2015
dolphinheart:
Thanks, I believe our discussion has come to an end.
Yo believe one too many things.

Explain to me this;
Is Watchtower the sole infallible interpreter of scriptures?
Christianity EtcRe: Is Celebrating Christmas Wrong ? by vooks: 3:12pm On Dec 24, 2015
dolphinheart:
No pagan in that sir.
but do we experience The joy everyday or once a year.?
Do we receive our king every Dec 25th?
Is jesus born every year?
The yearly celebration of an event at a period it did not occur, using dates and practices specifically used by idol worshipers is pagan!
you are totally bereft of reason.
We are commanded to take the Lord's Table. Do you do it daily or how often do you do it? Do you attempt to do it on the day Jesus died?

Likewise, Christmas is not marking the day Jesus was born but celebrating His incarnation

1 Corinthians 8 on food offered to idols is a good point to learn from.

Food offered to idols is paganism and it caused the weak and feeble minded like you to stumble because they imagined eating as equivalent to worshipping idols. Yet Paul is clear, it is a matter of conscience. If such a clear interaction with paganism is left to conscience, how much more Christmas whose 'paganism' is essentially in the past!

There is nothing pagan in commemorating Christ's incarnation unless Christ is a pagan deity
Christianity EtcRe: Witches And Wizards On Nairaland by vooks(op): 1:08pm On Dec 24, 2015
ifenes:
What is new age? This dude is probably on crack
cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by vooks: 12:21pm On Dec 24, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:
Thank you sir for this insightful post . Remain blessed
Merry and safe Christmas my broda
Christianity EtcRe: Witches And Wizards On Nairaland by vooks(op): 12:19pm On Dec 24, 2015
ifenes:
I doubt the OP knows what Witch and Wizard is
I need witches and wizards here you m0ron not New Age trash
Christianity EtcRe: Witches And Wizards On Nairaland by vooks(op): 12:18pm On Dec 24, 2015
SirWere:
Ehhuh? Witches? SMH
So they don't exist or are they all illiterate?
Christianity EtcRe: Churches That Abuse by vooks(op): 4:54am On Dec 24, 2015
For those who missed the book

http://www.reveal.org/development/Churches_that_Abuse.pdf

Cc Millerz,trapQ,HCPaul
Christianity EtcRe: Come Let Us Worship Him by vooks(op): 4:00am On Dec 24, 2015
plappville:
Christmas is now for commercial purposes. Its crazy how atheists talk about it without putting Christ to it. Many WEstern kids cant tell youwhat Christmas is all about. All they say is that Santa will present them gifts... grin
It's Christians job to teach the essence of Christmas; INCARNATION

John 1:14 (KJV)
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.



1 Timothy 3:16 (KJV)
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Christianity EtcRe: Witches And Wizards On Nairaland by vooks(op): 3:55am On Dec 24, 2015
jayriginal:
Look up Iyawitch and ogaga4luv

https://www.nairaland.com/iyawitch
Thank you
They are a rare breed
I have a challenge for them
Christianity EtcRe: Video : Black Magic Or Science ? Can You Explain This ? by vooks: 3:48am On Dec 24, 2015
zeemahn:
The thing have turn to quarrel. Emotion again undecided
You are one emotional freak
Christianity EtcRe: Come Let Us Worship Him by vooks(op): 9:32pm On Dec 23, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPBvSBRaLfo

The Little Drumma Boy~ Bonny M
[b]Little Drummer Boy"

Come they told me
Pa rum pum pum pum
A new born king to see,
Pa rum pum pum pum
Our finest gifts we bring
Pa rum pum pum pum
To lay before the king
Pa rum pum pum pum
Rum pum pum pum
Rum pum pum pum
So to honor him
Pa rum pum pum pum,
When we come.
Little baby
Pa rum pum pum pum
I am a poor boy too,
Pa rum pum pum pum
I have no gift to bring
Pa rum pum pum pum
That's fit to give our king
Pa rum pum pum pum
Rum pum pum pum
Rum pum pum pum
Shall i play for you!
Pa rum pum pum
On my drum.
Mary nodded
Pa rum pum pum pum
The ox and lamb kept time
Pa rum pum pum pum
I played my drum for him
Pa rum pum pum
I played my best for him
Pa rum pum pum pum
Rum pum pum pum
Rum pum pum pum
Then he smiled at me
Pa rum pum pum pum
Me and my drum.
Mary nodded
Pa rum pum pum pum
The ox and lamb kept time
Pa rum pum pum pum
I played my drum for him
Pa rum pum pum
I played my best for him
Pa rum pum pum pum
Rum pum pum pum
Rum pum pum pum
Then he smiled at me
Pa rum pum pum pum
Me and my drum
Me and my drum
Me and my drum
Me and my drum
Me and my drum
Me and my drum
Me and my drum
[/b]
Christianity EtcRe: Come Let Us Worship Him by vooks(op): 9:27pm On Dec 23, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpkI7GW2V34

The Christmas Shoes~ Newsong

[b]NEWSONG
The Christmas Shoes Lyrics
It was almost Christmas time, there I stood in another line
Trying to buy that last gift or two, not really in the Christmas mood
Standing right in front of me was a little boy waiting anxiously
Pacing 'round like little boys do
And in his hands he held a pair of shoes

And his clothes were worn and old, he was dirty from head to toe
And when it came his time to pay
I couldn't believe what I heard him say

Chorus:
Sir, I want to buy these shoes for my Mama, please
It's Christmas Eve and these shoes are just her size
Could you hurry, sir, Daddy says there's not much time
You see she's been sick for quite a while
And I know these shoes would make her smile
And I want her to look beautiful if Mama meets Jesus tonight

He counted pennies for what seemed like years
Then the cashier said, "Son, there's not enough here"
He searched his pockets frantically
Then he turned and he looked at me
He said Mama made Christmas good at our house
Though most years she just went without
Tell me Sir, what am I going to do,
Somehow I've got to buy her these Christmas shoes

So I laid the money down, I just had to help him out
And I'll never forget the look on his face when he said
Mama's gonna look so great

Sir, I want to buy these shoes for my Mama, please
It's Christmas Eve and these shoes are just her size
Could you hurry, sir, Daddy says there's not much time
You see she's been sick for quite a while
And I know these shoes would make her smile
And I want her to look beautiful if Mama meets Jesus tonight

Bridge:
I knew I'd caught a glimpse of heaven's love
As he thanked me and ran out
I knew that God had sent that little boy
To remind me what Christmas is all about

Repeat Chorus

Sir, I want to buy these shoes for my Mama, please
It's Christmas Eve and these shoes are just her size
Could you hurry, sir, Daddy says there's not much time
You see she's been sick for quite a while
And I know these shoes would make her smile
And I want her to look beautiful if Mama meets Jesus tonight

I want her to look beautiful if Mama meets Jesus tonight.
[/b]
Christianity EtcRe: Come Let Us Worship Him by vooks(op): 9:20pm On Dec 23, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JIVojLyymE
what Child is This/This is out God~ Travis Cottrel

[b]Lyrics:

Verse 1
What Child is this, who,
laid to rest on Mary’s lap is sleeping?
Whom angels greet with anthems sweet,
While shepherds watch are keeping?

Chorus
This, this is Christ, the King,
Whom shepherds guard, and angels sing.
Haste, haste to bring Him laud,
The Babe, the Son, the Glorious One,
The Babe, the Son of Mary.
This is Our God

Verse 1
Who is this Child asleep in the manger?
Tender and mild, this intimate stranger?
Recklessly, wildly loving a dangerous world.
Who is this Light invading our darkness?
Glorious might, the sun rising for us.
Conquering might,
He captures the hardest of hearts. We sing:

Chorus 1
This is our God, living and breathing, Gm7 Bb
Call Him courageous, relentless and brave.
This is our God, loving and reaching,
Scandalous mercy and mighty to save.
Hallelujah! This is our God!
Hallelujah! This is our God
Hallelujah! This is our God! Sing praise.
Verse 2
Who is this One who will not condemn us?
Why would He come to shoulder our sentence?
Nothing we've done will keep Him from giving us grace.
Who is this One? We watch and we’re speechless.
God’s only Son, embracing our weakness.
He overcomes all death and He frees us to live.
And we sing:

This is Our God


Chorus 1
This is our God, living and breathing,
Call Him courageous, relentless and brave.
This is our God, loving and reaching,
Scandalous mercy and mighty to save.
Hallelujah! This is our God! Hallelujah!
This is our God
Hallelujah! This is our God! Sing praise.

Verse 2
Who is this One who will not condemn us?
Why would He come to shoulder our sentence?
Nothing we've done will keep Him from giving us grace.
Who is this One? We watch and we’re speechless.
God’s only Son, embracing our weakness.
He overcomes all death and He frees us to live.
And we sing:

Chorus 2
This is our God, suffering and dying.
Call Him the Hero, redeeming the lost.
This is our God, love sacrificing,
All that is holy, accepting our cross.
Hallelujah! This is our God! Hallelujah!
This is our God
Hallelujah! This is our God! Sing praise.

Chorus 1
This is our God, living and breathing,
Call Him courageous, relentless and brave.
This is our God, loving and reaching,
Scandalous mercy and mighty to save.
Hallelujah! This is our God! Hallelujah!
This is our God
Hallelujah! This is our God! Sing praise.
Sing praise. Sing praise. Sing praise!
Oh, this, this is Christ the King,
Whom shepherds guard and angels sing.
Haste, haste to bring Him laud,
the Babe, the Son of Mary!
This, this is Christ the King,
Whom shepherds guard and angels sing!
Haste, haste to bring Him laud,
The Babe, the Son, the glorious One,
the Babe the So [/b]

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