₦airaland Forum

guy2two:
This issue of xmas gets me rather upset!
Why should I be so engrossed with something that my master neither does nor asks me to do for him, when in fact, I have not finished doing what he expressly tells me to do? {Matthew 28:18-20}
To all of you (the xmas fans), how many times have you tried doing what is written in that Scripture?

Did your master tell you to join Nairaland?
What about going to school where you burn over 15 years instead of doing what you were commanded?

Sarang:
Well because the percentage is going to be on the rise today.

Check it after few weeks

Hot air,
Any statistics?
Should Muslims be rounded and killed because terrorists are Muslims?

Raymondfayowole:
The bible made us to understand that we r to celebrate his death evry first day of the week. The first day of the week in this part of the world is on sunday in another country it cn b saturday, monday, anyday as long as it is the first day of the week.
If Jesus Christ wnted us to celebrate his birthday it would be stated in the bible. Jesus Christ wnted us to celebrate his death dat is why he gave us how, when, and why we should celebrate his death.

Where EXACTLY are you told to celebrate on the first day of the week?

Highcuerayte:
Sorry i don't use verses and chapters. I read the Bible.

I don't have time for idiocy and playing dumb. Does your bible come with chapters and verses?

Do you celeberate Christmas?

Yes I do

[size=1pt]

frank317:
If you can't wrap ur head around a God you made up, you will never explain anything meaningful. You can never be clear or go straight to the point. If God exists... Should a creator be ignorant of his existence? Why then shouldnt ignorant = nonexistent? Or are u suggesting that: ignorance should = existence? What kind of logic is that.

I dont know if a green cow exists, so therefore a green cow exists.

Or

I dont know if a green cow exists so therefore a green cow does not exist.

Which of the two assumptions above makes better sense to you oh wise one.


Seek and find out my creator? Where is he hiding?
Besides, this is ur statement below



How then can I seek a God when I dont know everything? Should our creator be something we should be seeking for? What relevance is that?


He is not hiding and you are asking me too SEEK for him.


I dont know what you are sure of... I dont know how life began and I am sure you dont know too, I dont know why you are making noise about something you don't know.


What?


Isn't that the beauty of having the ability to think? I dont accept anything because I dont know.


So what's the noise about? A mere assumption? To achieve what with this assumption?


In my own opinion... Any other unimaginable means of existence apart from coming from a manufacturer. Or isn't that a possibility?

[/size]
Merry Christmas,
Look for me when am free, for now it's family time

IkUKU01:
they keep saying Jesus was not born on 25 of december but can not till now provide d date JESUS was born..merry christmas jare

Because his date of birth or vein death is a non-issue, what matters is the fact that He was born and He died to save humanity

Highcuerayte:
Did i inserted the chapters and verses? Or you see any Bible version copyrighted by Highcuerayte?

Neither did I invent Christmas.
Do you use verses and chapters?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCPfQdAzorY

Silent night, holy night!
All is calm, all is bright.
Round yon Virgin, Mother and Child.
Holy infant so tender and mild,
Sleep in heavenly peace,
Sleep in heavenly peace.

Silent night, holy night!
Shepherds quake at the sight.
Glories stream from heaven afar
Heavenly hosts sing Alleluia,
Christ the Savior is born!
Christ the Savior is born.

Silent night, holy night!
All is calm, all is bright.
Round yon Virgin, Mother and Child.
Holy infant so tender and mild,
Sleep in heavenly peace,
Sleep in heavenly peace.

elhakiimed:
you can check the post now I have made corrections

That's how you ask questions not sending us on a wild goose chase.

Satan is an instrument God used to accomplish His purpose. What's your point?

Highcuerayte:
Don't deceive yourself. Historical record tells when Jesus was born. If Jesus was born in December then he is not the Christ.

The scripture made it clear that the Christ Birth, Life, Death and Resurrection must be according to the Law.

Any believer who observe Christmas honours demons and not Christ.

You don't do what you feel is right you do what God ask you to do. Moses did otherwise and paid for it.

Who told you to insert verses and chapters in the scriptures where God gave none?

veraiyke:
If you celebrate your birth anniversary in july while you're born in august and sincerely make it known that you were born in august but for convenience wish to celebrate it in july it will be very glaring and understood by all. But when you know you were born in august and want everyone to accept you were born in july then you will be misleading people. My point is it is why and how you celebrate it that makes it bad. You can't be doing evil things on that day and say you're celebrating Christ and you can't be telling billions of people Jesus was born dec 25 when bible, history, weather features ,d chronology have proved otherwise.

When you take the Lord's Table, you proclaim His death but do you need his exact date of death to do it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOkAVazSELM

elhakiimed:
don't blame me for your inaccesibility of the bible
you should praise me that I at least make you read it today.
I don't think the solution is in trying to attack me , if I show you some clear contradictions in the bible, you should learn more give the context and try educate.

Paste the verses and explain your dilemma, am not mothering you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7_yyrr8ojQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HONwsukWiR8

[b]
Mary Did You Know"
(originally by Mark Lowry (lyrics) and Buddy Greene (melody))

Mary, did you know
that your Baby Boy would one day walk on water?
Mary, did you know
that your Baby Boy would save our sons and daughters?
Did you know
that your Baby Boy has come to make you new?
This Child that you delivered will soon deliver you.

Mary, did you know
that your Baby Boy will give sight to a blind man?
Mary, did you know
that your Baby Boy will calm the storm with His hand?
Did you know
that your Baby Boy has walked where angels trod?
When you kiss your little Baby you kissed the face of God?

Mary did you know.. Ooo Ooo Ooo

The blind will see.
The deaf will hear.
The dead will live again.
The lame will leap.
The dumb will speak
The praises of The Lamb.

Mary, did you know
that your Baby Boy is Lord of all creation?
Mary, did you know
that your Baby Boy would one day rule the nations?
Did you know
that your Baby Boy is heaven's perfect Lamb?
The sleeping Child you're holding is the Great, I Am. [/b]

elhakiimed:
2 Samuel 24:1
and 1 chronicle 2:21
God cannot be God and Satan at the same time ?

Am imagining this post was not made by an idiot who can't express themselves. Paste the verses and rephrase your dilemma in an intelligible fashion

Smallville10:
hahaha my guy she doesn't know what shes posting. Its just DAT Rccg is not interested in this. Like seriously 12,000? haha she must be joking Rccg mass choir is over 15,000 minimum

Got proof?

frank317:
Thank you... I dont need human to prove me his existence.

That's right. You don't need ANOTHER human

Only the so called creator can but...

That's an assumption right there.
Like the iPhone 6 Plus am using. If Apple won't tell you they made it then Apple never made it.

See your scatter logic? To you ignorance=nonexistence

All right, since I dont know my creator I should just assume that I was created?

Silly presumption. Don't assume, SEEK,find out

What kind of self deceit is that? If I have a creator, why is he hiding?

Another foolish assumption. Who said he is hiding?

Personally, I dont know how life began,

But am sure you know how it NEVER began; randomly

and claiming to have a creator without evidence of a creator is purely nonsensical, you know it.

More nonsensical is claiming that natural random processes began life out of nowhere,all by themselves

Is that what you think? Wrong, that's not my reasoning, listen:

"I dont know who created me, therefore my options are open until I know."

No they are not. You can for instance rule me out as having created you because you damn well know I can't
You may not know how you got here but you know how you never got here

How can u be so sure that you were created when you dont know your creator?

Because it is either I was designed and created by an intelligent being or am a product of natural random processes. But since I fully understand the limits of randomness, I can rule them out just as you can rule out a Subaru erupting out of a Japanese volcano

What if you were uncreated?

What is 'uncreated'?

Dont you think if the creator exists and want man to know he is our creator, we would know already?

Who said we don't?
First look at the high order and complexity of the simplest living organism. Everything about it screams DESIGN. We know there can't be design without a designer, right?

Would we be here arguing if the creator really want us to know he exists?

We are here because you are playing dumb and pretending you can't see design which is evidence of a designer yet when you see a Subaru you automatically know some Intelligence was behind it

I can see you prefer making this creator up in your mind and tarahhhhh, it becomes your reality.

I can see you wish to pretend that a Subaru can erupt of volcano

Listen to yourself wise one... So u know everything that's why you have knowledge of your creation?

I don't know everything

Or you dont have knowledge of that? What else are we saying here? You accept we can't have knowledge of our creation.

Stop hallucinating, I admit our knowledge is limited and am open to the possibility that what I don't know may be what created me.

But you just want us to ascribe it to a creator? How does that solve any problem?

How does denying design solve anything


[wuote]Your confusion knows no bound. Stop blowing hot and cold at the same time. You accept we know nothing about our creation so what are you barking about the existence of a creator? How did u come about this knowledge? Are u super human?[/quote]There are two options;either we got here naturally or somebody put us here. I can eliminate the former because it is plain silly

Stop asking me dumb questions.... Are babies aware of anything?

It's analogy; not knowing your origin does not wish away your origin

Cc anas09

Merry Christmas dear ones
Ccollins,anas09,charlyg1 et al

Let us worship Jesus Christ

Hebrews 1:6 (NKJV)
6 But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says:
“Let all the angels of God worship Him.”

cynosure489:
I understand that comprehension can be hard for some.

Lets start like this;
Get a dictionary and checkup image and then idol. Olodo

Merry Christmas
Today am a tad too busy for puny brains

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlaD8rLI7BU

[b]Oh….

Hark! the herald angels sing,
"Glory to the newborn King; yeah
Peace on earth, and mercy mild,
God and sinners reconciled!"
Joyful, all ye nations rise;
Come and join the triumph of the skies;
With angelic host proclaim,
"Christ is born in Bethlehem!" Oh

Hark! the herald angels sing, sing, "Glory to the newborn King."

Hail the heaven-born Prince of Peace! Sing
Hail the Sun of Righteousness! Light
Light and life to all He brings, yes, He does
Risen with healing in His wings,
So mild He lays His glory by,
He was born that man no more should die,
Born to raise the sons of earth,
He's born to give them second birth.

Oh Hark! the herald angels sing, sing, "Glory to the newborn King."

Oh…

Sing to the Lord
Sing to the Savior
Sing for joy

Christ, by highest heaven adored;
Christ, the everlasting Lord! Yes
Late in time behold Him come,
He's the offspring of the virgin's womb.
Veiled in flesh the Godhead see;
Hail th' incarnate Deity, yeah, yeah
Pleased as man with men to dwell,
He's Jesus, our Emmanuel.

Oh

Hark! the herald angels sing, sing, "Glory to the newborn King."

Hark! the herald angels sing, "Glory to the newborn King."
Oh they sing
Oh yeah
To the newborn King
Hark! the herald angels sing, "Glory to the newborn King."
Joy to the world
Heaven and nature sing
Savior's born
Yes, He is
Hark! the herald angels sing, sing, "Glory to the newborn King."
Yeah
Oh
Hark! the herald angels sing, "Glory to the newborn King."[/b]

ojoyentalk:
Celebrate your salvation in christ.

Worship Jesus

Hebrews1:6 (NKJV)
6 But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says:
“Let all the angels of God worship Him.”

ifenes:
The fool really think Jesus was real....What makes him any different to those who celebrates the birth once a year?

Thus saith New Age Neanderthal and serial m0ron who was dumped by a biracial gal who couldn't stand his puny brain

Somebody needs to educate this Senior Pharisee

cynosure489:
You people can give baseless arguments sha!
Can you show me where in scripture that God commanded your 21st century pastor to start a church when Christ has said that the church should be one? You want to see everything specific from the bible? Seriously? LOL.. Before u even open ur teeth to laugh at me , take note of the word I used. "SPECIFIC". It means if your pastor is to hold a crusade in January 2016, we will have to check if its in the bible that God asked pastor okoro to hold a crusade in January 2016? Some will tell you God commanded them. Ok who even tell Una say no be God command one catholic pope to start using images even if I wan to follow your warped logic? Abegi

Some of you don't even know why isrealites will want to make their idols out of fine gold..its because they worship the idol(gold carved to a desired form) itself and every reverence goes to that carved gold.

The point here is that images and idols are two different things entirely. You can only make an image idol and an image can even be a living entity. For example we all have images on our phones but of course we have not idolized them. Simple English o.

I believe you have a dictionary.

Can somebody decode what this satanist is rambling about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqMgYbQhcvs


Down at the cross,
Where my savior died
Down where for cleansing
From sin I cried,
There to my heart
Was the blood applied

Singin
Glory to his name

I am so wondrously
Saved from my sin,
Jesus so sweetly
Abides within;
There at the cross
Where he took me in

Singin
Glory to his name

Oh, precious fountain that saves from sin,
I am so glad I have entered in;
There jesus saves me and keeps me clean;

Singin
Glory to his name

Glory to his name
Precious name
Glory to his name
There to my heart was the blood applied
Glory to his name

Come to this so rich and sweet,
Cast thy poor soul at thy savior's feet;
If you plunge in today,
You'll be made complete;

Singin
Glory to his name

dolphinheart,
You probably ran around all watchtower publications dusting all the arguments you have ever read about Christmas and then consulted all your Witness friends and came here armed and ready to kill the beast called Christmas, only to find EVERY one of them smashed to smithereens before your eyes!

How so, you are simply regurgitating what Watchtower dictates to you, you have no mind of your own, you subject every idea and thought to watchtower just like your friends, this means debating you or 1000 witnesses on any topic are the same as you all reason alike.

What you have been repeating over and over seeing you are incapable of thinking beyond it is;

1. Once upon a time there were pagan celebrations on 25th December
2. Christmas was not celebrated in scriptures

Conclusion
Christmas is pagan

We are celebrating God manifested in flesh in 2015 and you are stuck in 300AD where they celebrated deities. You are 1700 years late to the party.

You are like that Greek pagan who died in 100BC and resurrects in 2015 only to find people worshipping on Sunday. He is shocked to find them worshipping another deity. He goes away whining that another deity stole his deity's day.

As you bang your head in frustration at the fact that all your arguments have been thoroughly debunked, you probably are reasoning as you been taught that we are too blind to see the 'truth' you have. The reality is Watchtower has blinded you from thinking. You are like this horse, very strong but physically constrained by a very weak object; chair.

I want you to think critically through what am about to tell you.

How does a fallible mind like yours conclude that Watchtower is the infallible interpreter of scriptures?

Don't rush to show me that Watchtower is the 'faithful and discreet' Servant serving you food in due time. This is because your fallible mind MAY be mistaken about this interpretation. How do you know this is true?

Is it possible for a fallible mind to understand the infallible scriptures alone?

If the answer is yes, then you don't need a mediator, an infallible mediator to interpret scriptures for you!

If the answer is no, how would a fallible mind go about identifying the infallible interpreter of the scriptures? Again, don't send me to the scriptures because am fallible and whatever I read there may be wrong!

The point is, you don't need an infallible authority to interpret the infallible scriptures for your fallible mind

Watchtower may lie to you they are infallible but did you expect them to tell you they are not?

They may give you signs of the true organization but how would your fallible mind know whether these signs are correct? By going to scriptures? But wait, you mean you need your fallible mind to go to the infallible scriptures to identify the infallible interpreter?

But if you can't trust your fallible mind in the first place, why would you trust it now? Because an infallible organization told you? This is circular reasoning. You are trying to establish an infallible authority but to do this you must first trust the interpretation of the infallible authority

Bottomline
1. Nobody is infallible, no organization is infallible.

2. We don't need to be infallible to understand infallible scriptures anymore than we need infallibility to obey the Ten Commandments

3. Even if there were infallible interpreters, there would still be a point where fallible minds meet infallibility, so there will always be a chance of getting it wrong, for how would a fallible mind understand infallible interpretations?

4. The idea of an infallible interpreter is a ruse to keep your mind captive to an individual or organization

Cc image123,PaulGrundy,CANTICLES,BERNIMORE

frank317:
Trust me, if he keeps this conversation, I will take him on a thinking journey he has never been, and he will sure come back here to tell you to shut the f***k up.

Make my day Negro,
Got a few hours to pick your puny brains before I rejoin my family

frank317:
What's this? Subru manufacturers should be a concern for Subaru not me. Knowing Subaru manufacturers has got nothing to do with my creator. As a matter of fact, all Subaru's know their manufacturers. How does it sound to you that a Subaru (if I assume it is suddenly conscious) does not know its manufacturer. Now I need u, my fellow human to prove to me my manufacturer exists. Again, you dont see how ridiculous u sound. You dont see how non existent u make ur so call God sound.

You don't need another human to prove existence of your creator but it is preposterous to claim that since you don't know who created you then you were not created. That's al there is to the analogy. Think through what I teach you

If you can think just a little bit harder, you will actually see who the funny one is.

Funny is reasoning this;
I don't know who created me= I'm uncreated

Why should I not know my CREATOR!!!! Does not exist? Why is it even possible that a creation does not know his creator exist? Even a child born outside wedlock knows his earthly father exist somewhere. It is written in his consciousness even if he has never seen his father. But here I am waiting upon u to tell me my creator exist. Isn't there something fishy?

Nobody said you shouldn't but it's nonsensical to claim that you MUST know who created you else you were uncreated.
Fishy and actually silly is equating your ignorance with nonexistence

The existence of a creator shouldn't be governed by knowledge... It should be a universal knowledge just like the existence of the sun.

This is plain illogical; you barely understand the working of the solar system, a tiny portion of the Galaxy, you are still discovering the physical realm. Do you know everything? If you knew everything, then knowledge of your creation should be in your possession

Do you know half of everything? Supposing you know half of everything,which is overrating your brains, had it occurred to you that knowledge of creation exists in the other half you know nothing about?

Think through what am saying; a kid had no idea that they are a product of ovum and sperm deep inside their mother's uterus. They may or may not LEARN this with time but one sure thing is, during their ignorance, the fact remained about their origin

And no, my reality is not governed by knowledge, but here I am, waiting upon you, to learn/reach of the existence of my creator which should have been just a reality to me.

Nonsense.
Is it a 'reality' to babies that they are a product of sex?
Once you concede ignorance we can proceed

plappville:
Ok ooo.

Welcome