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As for Minato 's control of the dark nine tails.

I don't think there is anything special there, I also don't think that there was any bonding that went on while being in the belly of the death God. An eternal fight is an eternal fight, there are no winners, there are no distractions.

Except of course they got to understand each other through their fighting.

But I believe that you don't need anything to be able to control your Jinchuiriki. With the exception of bee, The other Jinchuiriki s were not that friendly with their Bijuus but they were able to harness their powers. Minato has experience with Jinchuuriki so learning to be one had no problem.



Okay scrap whatever I said above.

Let's look at it like this, Sarutobi sealed souls and hence his soul was in an eternal combat with theirs. But what if Minato used the death god seal to make himself into a Jinchuuriki? Sealing the beast with the seal into himself not into the death God. While because he has used the death god seal his soul already belongs to the death God and he is sealed into it.
So Nine tails sealed into Minato and Minato into the death god.
This technically means that Minato was not fighting anybody and had time to become used to the dark nine tails.

Tosyn007: Who told you it was intense chakra that enables you to resist Edo Tensei control? Hashirama was able to resist its control cos his cells were used to strenghten its restraining power. Why didn't he resist being controlled with his intense chakra when Orochimaru first used them to fight Sarutobi?

Am surprised at you Tosyn.

Resisting the Control of the Edo Tensei is a matter of Will backed by intense chakra. Tobirama knew this that is why he tried to break free from Orochimaru 's control but then he was held down because the edo Tensei had been strengthened with His brothers cells on the other hand orochimaru had to be careful about Hashirama because Hashirama is more powerful than Tobirama.

Now resisting the control of the Edo Tensei user is different from breaking free from the Edo Tensei jutsu. You CA break free from the Edo Tensei user control but still be under the Edo Tensei contract thus when the jutsu is ended, you return to the pure world.
But when you break free fromm the contract you will not return to the pure world even when the jutsu has ended.
Breaking free from the Edo Tensei jutsu is a function of knowledge, knowing the right seals and executing the counter jutsu. madara did do any seals to break free from kabutos control but he had to to break free from the contract.

Besides Kabuto's control tag was a more flexible control.


Tobirama and Hashirama could not break free when fighting Sandaime because as Tobirama himself said, they were not at full power, the last time they were summoned

WackyJ1: Don't make careless statements like this, Go and listen to itachi and tobi again.

Sealing is different from going blind. When you just go blind, regeneration can restore your eyes, but sealing, the eye is gone, not just the eye, the power behind it. It just isn't spoilt, it is gone.
the Edo tensei jutsu gave us a compact example

Why did switching bodies not resurrect Orochimaru's arms? He has arms but he didn't have hands.

pickabeau1: Interesting... While a summoning is a kind of seal n can suummon non living objects, to prove your point..you would make theories to justify sealing inanimate objecta in d deathgod...OK

You win

Pickabeau

The uzumaki were a clan that specialised in sealing Jutsu and they were feared so much that they had to be destroyed .

if you are thinking that the sealing jutsus that you have seen are all there have ever existed and all that is being capable of then you are just being unimaginative. Sit down and reason what they mean when they say an entire clan specialised in fuinjitsu so much so that they had to be destroyed.
Orochimaru looked at a whole wall full of masks that represented various fuuinjutsu and only one was for the death God seal, what does that tell you?

You seal inanimate objects into scrolls and summon them from the scrolls.

SIRcumalot: Thanks.
Why are we using this Lingo instead of the More common going Blind cause I see no difference ?
Kakashi and sasgay were losing the gift of Sight after Spamming MS there was no Sealing wat so ever.

Don't make careless statements like this, Go and listen to itachi and tobi again.

Sealing is different from going blind. When you just go blind, regeneration can restore your eyes, but sealing, the eye is gone.
the Edo tensei jutsu gave us a compact example

Djtm: I used the intelligence thingy has an illustration. Sasuke has enough power to defeat hashirama, but his power won't overwhelm hashirama. Btw sasuke has no experience compared to hashirama, none at all. So when talking about sasuke's bio, mention only his power, don't say anything about his experience.

Sasuke has no experience??

mtcheww this is what makes me vex for naruto fans,

The Most powerful person that hashirama has fought is madara without rinnegan,

Sasuke has fought Obito with rinnegan and sage powers, \madara with sage powers while also using senjutsu (through naruto), he has fought the mother or the sage of six paths.

What more does sasuke need to know again?

Even naruto fit beat harashima now, the world has evolved abeg, you guys should get over your hashirama hype

Secondly I would like to make a differentiation between cells that aid in physical regeneration and then a supernatural fun jutsu.

The reason why someone can come here and tell us that kishimoto does ass pulling is because we that do not even believe in ass pulling cannot properly defend the logic behind many things we see.

The inability of a mangeykyo sharingan user to see clearly after some time due to over use of his MS is not a physical problem. It is as a result of the gradual supernatural sealing of the sharingan eye. Eventually the eye will turn white and useless if the person continues like that.

Except you want to tell me that Hashirama's cells possess the ability to stop a fuuinjutsu then I will tell you to prove that. Because so far all we have seen from hashirama's cells is that it gives you a certain level of regenerative ability and great stamina and boost in Chakra levels.

Another correction to be made here, , hashirama's cells was not what enabled Danzo activate shishui 's sharingan in the sense that you are thinking, it did not directly influence the sharingan, it simply gave Danzo the physical strength to be able to bear the drain that using such a powerful MS technique would put on him since he is not an Uchiha. And naturally once shisui's eye has been used, it will take a long time to be used again. Abi did itachi 's crow have hashirama's DNA?

Again, you cannot categorically tell. Me that the only way that someone with the ability to make his body intangible escaped from amaterasu is by shedding of the part of Hashirama's cells. You are also making the assumption that amaterasu only touched half of him cleanly without any single bit touching the other half.

When a sharingan is sealed, it is sealed, sealing is not physical, it is spiritual. Itachi used izanami as an edo tensei, why didn't his eyes regenerate back.

Madara lived most of his life with one eye eve while having hashirama's cells implanted in him until he was about to die and he awakened the rinnegan in both eyes. Why didn't hashirama's cells give him back his sealed sharingan.

Sealing and physical regeneration are two different things.
Hashirama's cells have nothing to do with Obito not going blind from his extensive use of Kamui.

We Naruto Fans like to complicate things for ourselves

For the first time I am hearing that EMS is needed for someone to have a perfect susanoo. Hmm mm.
Because we saw a sixteen year old boy go through the different stages of a susanoo transformation with no help from anyone that uses a susanoo it means that everyone must go through it too.

The highest I can say is that perfecting a susanoo requires time (for the inexperienced) and a very high level of motivation. For the Uchihas it is hatred. Hatred makes the ocular power grow stronger but over time it gets sealed. Like I said earlier the only difference between the MS and the EMS like the name implies is that that EMS never loses its light and then you have the powers of the person's whose eyes were transplanted into yours.

The fact that the two people who had perfect susanoo s lost their siblings before they could perfect it does not mean that you must have EMS to be able to perfect it.

Susanoo does not need EMS to manifest, it only needs the two eyes to be present in one skull. The perfect susanoo to me is just a better dressed version of the incomplete one, Hatred is what is stated by tobirama the man who has actually studied the Sharingan to increase ocular power.

Feraz: Me thinks the way Obito was able to use his without his getting sealed is due to having Hashirama's cells attached to him so it's likely that helped in not getting the eyes sealed unlike Itachi, Sasuke and Madara who had theirs almost sealed. Then again, I don't know if I'm wrong but there was a time in the war arc where Kakashi couldn't see very well due to his getting sealed. I think it was when Gai used his 'hachimon tonkû' and Kakashi asked Gaara carry him close to see how to create an opening for Gai on the orb Madara used to seal himself.
Also, when did Kakashi see Itachi's susanoõ?

So what you wanna tell me is that Harashima 's healing ability in his cells prevented an Uchiha FUUiNjitsu
I don't think so. One is physical based and the other is not.

If Kakashi was going blind in battle before fighting Obito then he should have gone completely blind during the fight with Obito. But from what I watched there wasn't any sign of blindness just Chakra draining.

kimco: dude sasuke had the ems. Kakashi had no such thing. Did u jux compare susanoo to kamui? The susanoo that strains even original users? Are u joking ryt now. Please explain how he got to use the perfect susanoo then. Cos ryt nw, u didn't have any point watsoever.

First of all the difference between the eternal mangeykyo sharingan and the normal one is that the eternal mangeykyo never gets sealed and you acquire the powers of the eyes that were transplanted into yours finish. , Sasuke still bleeds from the eyes when he wants to use amaterasu. There is no other benefit of the eternal mangeykyo apart from those I mentioned.

Second of all, Kamui is a mangeykyo sharingan technique whether you like it or not, it is not to be underestimated and as the rules go, the more you use a mangeykyo sharingan technique, the more your eyes get sealed. The only thing you can then say about Obito's mangeykyo is that it doesn't get sealed the way others do, it is very reusable why? I don't know.

Thirdly, Kakashi is a Juunin level Ninja, Kakashi has been using the sharingan for longer than Sasuke lifetime. He has been copying techniques and understanding one half of Obito's sharingan for more than 10 years. You don't spoon feed a ninja of his love the way you'd spoonfeed other younger or recent Juunins talk less of chuunins and genins.
Kakashi saw that Obito's sharingan was similar to his and from there he was able to use his Kamui close range for the first time on himself. He saw and he adapted. He has been exposed to madara's Susano, itachi 's susanoo and Sasuke's susanoo. Sasuke with two eyes was able to give his already perfect susanoo legs just because he saw it was possible from madara's susanoo. How much less Kakashi, the No 1 copy ninja, it is not that day he got the sharingan, no body told Sasuke how to awaken susanoo. He just did it. Unlike Sasuke when he first awoke his own, Kas Kashi has seen many perfect susanoos.

You want his own to be hatred motivated? I don't think so, he is not an Uchiha but the desire to protect his student is as much a driving force as necessary to prompt the bringing out of a perfect susanoos.

Like I said before, I don't know why you want Kakashi to first go through the different stages of the susanoo before it looks right to you. I dare say, you are a lazy reader.
Kakashi is not a small boy

Please give Sasuke his due respect

It was not because he put the beats under the control of his rinnegan (which by the way was for a brief moment not full control, more like establishing something for later use) that he was able to suspend them in his chibaku tensei after all when the ten tails was sealed it wasn't under anyone's control and also do you know what it takes to be the center of gravity of the chibaku tensei, look at the way the nina tails was writhing in agony, he woudn't have been able to do anything even if he wanted to. Sasuke is not going to use those beasts in his battle with naruto.

9 chibaku tensei is 9 chibaku tensei, something nagato could not do properly for just one beast. nagato's rinnegan was never his own and that is why his rinnegan power could not rival madara's and sasuke's own

As for someone that said that naruto would not have beaten nagato when they met face for face, i laugh, naruto chakra still fresh and bubbling and nagato was recovering, i dare say he could have handled him.

kimco: wackyyyyyyyyyyyyy. Man I missed u ooo, no homo. I think ihedinobi has lost it tho..where have u been tho

Doing good Kimco, i see you are still screaming Plot no Jutsus

kimco: all this plenty damage control. The complaints isn't for kakashi using susanoo but dat he used perfect susanoo. That's the problem. Perfect susanoo demands more chakra and control, which translates to a stable sharing, which points to an ems. Otherwise itachi wud've been spamming it non stop. Do u see how painful it is to use susanoo with a ms? Also speak for urself, plotholes didn't make naruto interesting. A great plot (ruined long ago) was wat made it so. Now that u have declared u thrive on plotholes there is no way u shud have any credibility defending kishi's atrocities.

1. Bia Kakashi has been using the sharingan for how long ?

2. Don't you think by now his body is used to how it sucks chakra and drains him? Did you not see how he was able to grow to be able to use multiple kamui in a day when before he couldn't? When he noticed that kamui was what Obito was using, was he not able to use kamui on himself when before he only used it as a long range jutsu?

3. Now what does it take to perform a jutsu? is it not the affinity to the chakra type?, the experience to be able to mold the amount of chakra to be able to pull it off? How old do you people think kakashi is? Do you know what he has been through and the level of ninja he is ?

4. Sasuke was using he susanoo the way itachi was using his until he saw madara give his own legs and then he automatically knew it was pssible, so kakashi will have to take permission from you people before he produces complete susanoo.

i just tire for una

Please, there are some pages here where we hyped Hashirama and his powers enough but that time has passed now,

Hashirama cannot take down sasuke now, Sasuke will beat him up

Tosyn007: But what would give you the effrontery to make these kinda talks and think you can change things all by yourself?

it is a common knowledge that if you want to change the world then you must have the power to do so. Besides it doesn't really make a difference because the Sasuke that i know will do the same thing even when he doesn't have the power. Remember when he fought the Gokage the first time? he himself knew that he didn't have the power to beat all of them deep inside but that didn't stop him from going for what he wanted.

iykmora: ****it should be wackyj****

Damn

Who call my name for here. and my ex corrected me about this name twisting,...

Hashirama Hashirama Hashirama, Hashirama Hashirama, Hashirama, Hashirama, Hashirama, I must learn the correction today.

Knowing my kind of friends hmm.


Never fall in love with a girl tour friends don't like.

When I saw this story, the first question that came to my mind was that this girl was too good to be true

Then I saw the quoted part below and I laughed I knew she was lying

uchesco: Hi all
Just thot i should send an update on whats been hapening on the above story....

.Suprisingly SHE refused!!

According to her, while she loves him and is ready to marry him, she didn't want to commit herself to him... AND wait for two years, not knowing if he'll meet any fine young woman and abandon her, while she chases away potential suitors.... She has instead suggested that they leave it to God and if they are both still single after 2 years.... then who knows......

And here was the truth

uchesco: !
he said he didn't marry L again because after the two years, a lot of things had happened. She had a serious bobo then, h

She had another serious Bobo then. She was just giving him story that if they were both single after two years mtcheww

Natasha2: Worreva dude

It's been a long time natasha

glitest: If only you could simply comprehend; it would saved you from disgracing yourself for been ignorant.

First you stated I shouldn't quote you?......such are the exact moves an attention grabbing boy( not man), would do.

Secondly; you've simply never met, nor know a REAL career minded lady; Or else, you wouldn't have yet again, made such ignorant comment.... Lastly for crying out loud, when the hek did the term "mugu" become name calling?...Gosh!!

Pls wackyj1 love; I beg of you to help me explain what/ who a mugu is?...Biko.

Sorry dear, mugu is name calling, apologize

2sExy1:

See this one

glitest: Me a softie?....You are not serious.
Why don't I believe that you're done been a mugu?.

Because you still want me to be your mugu. E pain you say you no get your turn

glitest: Youuuuuu!!....Waaaaaa??
My first NL victim.....Its been a while; So how's life as a player?; Or are you now a mugu?

See this softie acting tough, closet bad girl.

Am retiring from being a mugu oh

Sagamite: Combined with a whole lot of intelligence.

Saga, Saga!

Sagaaaaaski!

Sagababa!!!
E Don tey



Glitest what are you doing?!!!!!

oya how does one get this emotional intelligence

500samuel: , dont ask me how i know because well has ear...

500samuel: dont ask my how i got this info walls has ear

hahahaha, love this guy, he communicates with Wells and Walls











On serious note, brother run far away from this girl, you can never marry her and be safe

You have heard it, you have heard it.

You can choose to ignore it and move ahead, everything based on trust or you can leave now.

Because one day things will get suspicious and your actions will be influenced negatively because of what you have heard about her past

Net you didn't mention anything about feelings and the manner of breakup

When you thought you have lost someone, that is when they need you the most.

*thinking*

This sounds too good to be true.

No need again to buy credit?
Will MTN just sit back and watch?

Wolverine on this list?


Hulk has a limit to his Strength. You can't use relativity to describe hulk. Go study your book wella.

Hulk is still human and there is a limit to where your anger will. Carry you with your body density. Hulk never jam person wey crush am

andromida: He no love you o. If a man loves you he will do what it takes to keep you in his life. He is not the right fit for you.

Keep on walking.

AndromidaAaaaAaa