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sinequanon:
You know exactly what I am saying.

I am not afraid, because I don't believe in other people's creations, neither am I a materialist.

You do believe and your materialist position is a fragile and vain attempt to protect yourself from the fear you have buried deep in your psyche for lack of any real alternative.

Your pretence isn't working, so I am not going round in circles. Each to his own. Bye!

LOL. Nigga you're tripping. You're like a troll, right? You make absolutely no sense.

Only you are capable of rising above the pettiness, just like only you managed to get out of that malfunctioning elevator.

Commot for road, buddy. You dey consume valuable bandwidth.

Some should keep their clothes on. Not everyone should walk around naked in front of a camera.

sinequanon:
Those who believe in hell are afraid of it. Are you disputing this?

I don't know what the part in bold has to do with your question. To me it seems irrelevant, whatever it means.



Why is somebody else's belief in hell fire your business? Why can't you just remark on it and let them be?

It is because you are afraid, despite all your pretence.

You're not making sense. Why would I be afraid of an imaginary place and how were you able to overcome your own fear of it?

sinequanon:
I don't have a personal god.

If someone has created a personal god that will roast them in their hell, that is an issue for them, not me.

Let me guess....your "concern" is not to do with your fear that their god can control you, too, but your "love" of people and need to save them from themselves?

So if hell is an arbitrary assumption, why are you claiming that others are afraid of it?

I'm only interested in the truth, not saving people.
The truth has no agenda. If there was any shred of evidence to back up the monumental claims made in the holy books, I would be the first in line.

sinequanon:
Wrong. You asked me what reward could they possibly conceive...



I arrive at my diagnosis by talking to atheists. This forum is chock full of examples of atheist denial, hypocrisy and inability to focus on questions. It is almost as if they are seeing a tiger in the room and all their answers are about what if the cage door came unlocked. They are more concerned with whether your question may somehow unlock their tiger's cage door, than the question, itself.

(The tiger is their fear of god, hell, etc.)

Do you believe in HELLFIRE or not? Hell fire means a place where a personal God will roast people forever after watching a DVD of their lives.

sinequanon:
Most atheists are also afraid because they have not found a real and deep way NOT to believe. All they have is a superficial religion which works on group psychology. They suffer a cognitive dissonance whereby they believe in god and hell, but bury it deep in their psyche, and entertain a fragile disbelief.

When their thin veneer of disbelief is questioned, they start to scream. It is very frightening for them, but they have to keep up the pretence in their own confused way.

Since you know so much about psychology, I'm sure you've heard of psychological projection.


"Projection is a defense mechanism that involves taking our own unacceptable qualities or feelings and ascribing them to other people. For example, if you have a strong dislike for someone, you might instead believe that he or she does not like you. Projection works by allowing the expression of the desire or impulse, but in a way that the ego cannot recognize, therefore reducing anxiety."
http://psychology.about.com/od/theoriesofpersonality/ss/defensemech_7.htm

You're doing quite a bit of that here and there.

sinequanon:
You are wrong. Most atheists are deeply irrational and will do all of that.

Does burying your head in the sand make the danger go away?

No. It makes you more vulnerable to the danger. But people still do it.

So asking me why atheists have certain psychosis is not my concern.

I'm asking how you arrived at your diagnosis, not why they have it.

All you did was to recount a conveniently embellished elevator story, and tell me that atheists share the affliction of the characters in it.

There was no conversation about the logic behind your train of thought.

Christmas is a former pagan holiday. I'm not surprised by any of the rituals that accompany it.

Portraying black people in a negative context is an old practice.

Ever heard of Venus Hottentot?

Rilwayne001:
Its disgusting/irritatng.

It is against natural law and you know this for real.

It just does'nt make sense, even animals don't do it so why should we (higher animals) do it?.

For what reason(s) do you think the Nigeria Government didn't sign the bill?

What do you think will be the outcome of sex between two men? hun?



Religion apart.

I'm not against it because my religion is against it, i'm against it bcause it does'nt make sense and irritating. My forefathers don't do it, it is not in our culture and tradition, i don't know about yours though but mine is totally against it.



I asked you to tell me about it the other time but you did'nt.

Animals practice homosexuality dude.

http://www.yalescientific.org/2012/03/do-animals-exhibit-homosexuality/

honourhim:
Why won't you agree with him? Both of you share one thing in common here- the fear of hell fire. Yet your agreement with him hasn't changed him from atheism so what have you achieved? Nothing.

No amount of denial can save you from the torment of the lake of fire, only Jesus can save you bro.

The man said that we don't agree on religious matters. Except in this case.

There's plenty of areas outside of religion where we both see eye to eye.

Cars need gas, human beings need food to eat, money is good.
These are common areas of agreement.

sinequanon:
ok. If you don't get the point, let's leave it there.

You didn't make one. Declarative statements out of the blue don't count as "making points."

No one who KNOWS that hell exists will EVER disobey the person who built it. No one. God is an UNUSUAL dictator in most religions. He knows your THOUGHTS and he sees EVERYTHING.

What could possibly be the reward for even a slight disobedience when every offense brings you closer to the heat?

sinequanon:
I think you are missing the point.

This is not about conformity but the popular fear of being stuck in a lift. That fear was so powerful that they convinced themselves that the lift was moving. In the end, the fear of being stuck in a lift, made them remain in a defective lift.

Fear doesn't lead to rational outcomes. Fear can lead people into greater danger. So, I am saying don't get confused between rationalizing the behaviour and explaining its origin.

Again the elevator business. We're talking about atheists choosing to deny the fact that a personal God exists, not the fear of being stuck in an elevator.

Being roasted forever has a bigger deterrence factor than the fear of being stuck in an elevator.

Sweetlemon:
She might have been playing with them outside.............

The kidnappers came in, them an decided to kidnap all three to avoid her raising an alarm.

It could be anything. They may even be using her as cover up to cover their tracks.

The boys were kidnapped. At least we agree on that. However, she was last seen with them. She isn't around to answer questions.

sinequanon:
I suspect that you are confusing two different questions.

1. Is the behaviour sensible? Answer: no.

2. Can you recognize the psychology? Answer: yes.

One weekend, I was at an African festival held at the Southbank Centre in London. This is a very large venue, and at the intermission people were streaming out from the various exhibitions and performances that were being held in the building.

A number of us had gathered at the lifts, and we all crammed on. The doors closed and the lift was bobbing and shaking with the weight of all the people. But something didn't feel right, and after several seconds, I said, "it's not moving!"

There was TOTAL silence. Everyone just froze. It was a weekend, with few staff around. Then somebody said, "of course, it's moving...". Then there was more silence. People waiting, even though the lift obviously wasn't moving.

Then I had an idea. Maybe it hadn't stopped. Maybe it hadn't started to move AT ALL! (And we hadn't noticed in the general commotion). So I pressed the button to opened the doors, and sure enough, we hadn't left our floor. I walked out and took the stairs.

You know what, I looked back, and everyone was so frozen with fear that they remained in the lift and the doors automatically closed again.

That is human psychology. Is it sensible? No.

Can you understand it? Yes, if you are not in denial.

Conformity is nothing new. I remember reading about it in Intro Psych. There are all sorts of elevator experiments which show that the opinions of human beings tend to be influenced by groups.

But what has this got to do with the atheists choosing to deny God out of the fear of punishment? God is an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent character, not an elevator. Anyone who KNOWS this to be true, can never deny it. Denial includes general acts of disobedience, not only the refusal to acknowledge his existence.

I know God doesn't exist because everyone ADMITS that he/she disobeys him everyday.

Sweetlemon:
Can you imagine!!!!!

I'm so annoyed!

Meanwhile there's no proof she kidnapped them. I was expecting to see a CCTV of her running away with the kids, but this is all they can come up with?

Either she kidnapped them or she took them out for ice cream. Which one sounds reasonable after 3 days?

paulGrundy:
Are you ok at all?

You are quoting his prophecies from nigeriafilms From a goSsip blog?

When you post the actually prophesy he made from SCOAN's official website, call me.

Shameless man. There are real magicians on TV predicting the goal scorer and exact time of goal BEFORE a soccer match even begins. Your own cheap magician is making fortune cookie predictions, like "the price of oil will drop drastically."

Which one is drastically? $25 barrel is drastic. Oil is not $25 a barrel yet.

Take your 5 kobo magician to the village where he can impress people with his fortune cookie lyrics.

sinequanon:
Atheism is not secularism. It is largely a fear-based religion of denial, ironically centered on what a possible god may be able to do.

So there are people who deny the existence of a personal God out of fear of punishment?

Does that make sense to you? Are there North Koreans living in North Korea who deny that the Kim fellow is the boss?

I was able to locate one unfulfilled prophecy after 3 seconds of Google search.

Here is TB Joshua talking about events that will unfold in 2014, in Nigerian politics.

[b]Moving on, he spoke about what was to be expected in the New Year, attendees listening with rapt attention and scribbling notes as he spoke. “This New Year 2014 is not like any other year in the past. It is a year of crossing bridge. To cross the bridge, you need to grab onto faith,” he began. “This is not going to be easy for the mighty. Many of the mighty will fall. Pray for them. The rich, famous and popular people – many will fall this 2014 because crossing the bridge is not going to be easy; they need God. Many of them believe it is their own making to be great in their own area of expertise.”
Talking about the current Nigerian political situation, Joshua said, “There will be a leadership tussle on who will lead and who will be presidential candidate in APC which will affect them as a political party. They should be vigilant. Many are with them in flesh but not with them in spirit.” Talking about the current crisis Nigeria’s ruling party PDP are embroiled in, the prophet stated that they would ‘pay any price to unite’ but that the issue of who would be the presidential candidate would cause challenges.

“Many of the key leaders in political parties will go down in 2014,” Joshua then announced to the somber audience. “If many key leaders go down with 2014, what will now happen in 2015? Pray for 2015 to be fulfilled. The beginner is not the owner but the finisher.”

He then stated to thunderous applause that 2014 would see a positive improvement for the nation in the area of corruption. “What will happen in 2014 will result in the correction of the corruption in Nigeria because many corrupt leaders will go down in 2014.”[/b]

http://www.nigeriafilms.com/news/24867/33/tb-joshuas-shocking-2014-prophecy.html

So tell me, shameless man, what have you seen in Nigerian politics this year which makes you realize that the corruption problem is over?

A broken clock is correct twice a day. Post the rest of his prophecies here, so that we can appreciate the accuracy of this man and the "God" who relayed the information to him.

If they born u well.

Very few people manage to successfully draw the ire of the believers and secularists alike.

Don't worry, our resident Christians are offering prayers on the behalf of your soul as we speak.

Africans have a lower IQ on average than any other race on the planet.

In fact, most IQ tests will show that an average white male is smarter than 84% of black people.

The Jesus and Mohammed foolishness don't help matters.
http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Race_and_intelligence.html

PASTE ENTIRE LINK INTO BROWSER.

Only ret)arded, or psychotic people, would imagine that eternally roasting someone is a reasonable punishment for one lifetime of offenses.

Idiots. How could a mother enjoy heaven knowing that her children are being roasted by the host of the place?

These stories must be learned in childhood.

LOL. One thread, two different Jesus. One of you is lying about having a relationship with a spirit person.

asalimpo:
you never quote the new Testament do you?
Besides, the 'kill' didnt continue forever. But islam proposes the same anti human laws to these day. The islam you cite, how has it been well with d world as a whole after islam? But on the other hand every nation where christianity predominates has prospered than it would otherwise and treats its citizens more humanely.

Be Objective,if you must critique.

I am assuming tht the bible 'kill' decrees were wicked and unjust...

I quote the bible, both old and new. If your God never changes, then the old testament describes his current feelings.

winner01:
one of d most significant events in christianity is the ressurection of Jesus Christ and when his grave opened.

Jesus wasn't buried in a grave. But graves DID open in the NT when he gave up the ghost. Thousands of dead people woke up and began looking for their family members.

The lying f)uckers who wrote the bible didn't even care to follow up this AMAZING story. What happened to the thousands of dead people who came out the ground and entered the marketplace?

Lying bleeps.

Silly people. What could someone possibly do in one lifetime to deserve being roasted forever?

Brainwashed children.

Janeify:
That's what happens_our God is so merciful.
Haven't you heard of cases where armed robbers,murderers repent?As far as there's repentance, forgiveness is sure and they become new creatures.

What happens to the girl, since you're reading from God's own diary?

What did she do to deserve being brutally raped by a future man of God?

michaelwestern:
how is this related to the topic?

must you go about showing hatred for something you dont believe in?

Depends on the thing. Look how much rage you're displaying only because I posted a biblical passage.

Abuamam:
Why should he receive insults? He asked a good question.

@OP. We don't know.
Speaking for muslims, we know that God (only One in Islam; Indivisible; Everlasting), pre-exists all existence. His attributes cannot be encompassed by mere human imagination.
The information is also of no significance to carrying out our responsibility on earth, so we are not given.

Our lack of knowledge does not automatically mean that you are right and there is no God. Science is also clueless about the universe's beginning, and no scientist can venture to answer the question of what the states of time and existence were before the universe came to be.

But you're not clueless about the beginning of the universe. You almost know everything, if the Qur'an is to be believed. You're only clueless about WHERE GOD LIVED before he created anything. And maybe who created God. But you know for a fact that it was he who created the universe, and he left us a book to read.

obiZEAL:
U'll recieve more insults than reasonable attempts.
Reason;They don't know

Hahaha. Insults indeed. The truth is often uncomfortable.

gatiano:
are you saying you don't know why police never touch those guys? strange that you don't and you are in the states. Throughout 2013, Minister Louis Farakhan was basically pleading with the black and latino people to turn a new page of good character and to be self sustainable, that very soon the white american will go on killing spree. white america is planning on how to attack the nation of islam, but ALLAH is the best of all planners. another question, what if it was other way round, that GOD is a whiteman from a white generation of time, what do you think they would do the blacks all across the world?

I really don't know why the police don't bother them. Some will even try to sell their papers AFTER the light has already turned green. A normal person might get a citation for jaywalking.
But the Farrakhan people are off limits. Maybe the police is afraid of Farrakhan.

mynairatime:
In this new world americans speak the strongest words. words that breakes old bound & create another one are spoken by americans. i americans trust in the cast away angels called aliens than their dollars. if u rape 5 years old child take a book written by an american ur conscience will disappear without regreting what u did so doing such thing will become nomal & no amount of words can reflect in u. however i wish u to go hellven to understand better. congrats

Someone needs to save you. From yourself.