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Cultish things. Jim Jones would be proud.

honourhim:
Shut up and stop hiding your shame. I was waiting for your silly excuse.

Today you ll talk atheism, next day you talk flying goat, next day you talk flying spaghetti, now its Allah. What a confused boy you are. Keep messing yourself up and be covering it up with sacarsm.

We have always preached Christ to you because we are sure of our stand. We don't have time to engage in useless sacarsm which you hide under to showcase your foolishness and confused state.

Meanwhile how are you dealing with your "supertitious and foolish parents, uncles and aunties"(according to you the wise one)?

Who is we? Speak for yourself. You haven't been able to convince other fellow CHRIST-TARDS here that you follow the correct version of the WHITE man, but it's me you wanna convince?

Oya, keep praying to Jim Caviezel. See how far it gets you. #Pinhead.

OLAADEGBU:
You are living a lie and you will reap whatever you sow. Repent before it is too late.

"For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified Him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen" (Romans 1:20-25).

I would wipe my behind with the pages of your holy book, if I wasn't afraid of lowering the intellect of my arse.

Keep your Caucasian male God away from me. Your God looks like the God Thor from the Hollywood movies. Except Thor never sends a message by another person, while your own God cannot operate without illiterate people doing his bidding.

sinequanon:
To use the definition in wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism



..it is clear to me that atheism is a materialist position, i.e it is one that holds that everything is accessible to science and governed by fixed laws.

Their contention is not whether people worship, but that the entities they worship are not real. To a materialist, the only things that are real are things that can be completely controlled or made up of completely controllable elements. Deities do not conform to their reality.

[size=16pt]The atheist position is that NO deities exist, because no non-material entities exist.[/size] It is a dogmatic position, because atheists believe in a system of "evidence" that accepts ONLY the material, and rejects anything else as "error", "noise", "coincidence" etc. It is a system that filters out non-controllable elements and then says that they don't exist.

The theist position is another extreme. It jumps from recognizing the existence of the non-material, to worshiping it.

[size=16pt]My position[/size] is that non-material entities exist. Spirit exists, soul exists etc. But a spirit only becomes a god to the people who choose to worship it. A spirit will be a god to a particular group of people because they have chosen to worship that spirit. Their god is real, but not universally a god. To others, it may be just another spirit (weak spirit requiring worship).

And this addresses the earlier question of why religion seems universal. It is indeed a human behaviour for humans to worship things they believe to be more powerful than them. This tends to include the unfamiliar, things at the boundaries of our experience. The act of worship is creative and makes the entity powerful over those that worship it.

Atheists are not materialists by choice. It's the only rational option. Some atheists have been on this forum for YEARS!!

Not one Christian or Muslim has ever presented evidence which shows that spirits are real, or that they know what happens after death.

Take you for example, all you did here was use your fingers to type the words, "spirit exists." With evidence like that, who on this planet is lacking proof of ANYTHING?

AllNaijaBlogger:
May God have mercy on you. You seem a bit confused.

Understatement of the year.

Bennyberry:
Weed makes you the dwelling place of the devil

A plant created by God can cause the devil to inhabit one's body?

Hmmm.

Genesis 1:31
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Pr0ton:
Common Nigeria they haven't crumbled, they are talking of destroying U.S.. They wan use their life play kite.

Dis some funny s)hit, sha.

honourhim:
Obviously you are a confused boy. An atheist preaching Allah? Shows you don't even know where to stand. The shame of atheism is catching on you fast.

See this one. Your Caucasian male God has corrupted your intellect to the point where sarcasm flies by your brain like the wind.

Commot for road!

OLAADEGBU:
You didn't tell me that you also believed in the Moral Law of God that forbids us to lie.

I know I didn't. But you, on the other hand, put your Jesus business on display like a Pharisee so I expected you to at least care about the commandments.

Here you are, coercing me to tell a lie, because my comment is incompatible with your pre determined paradigm.

Jesus cannot be real and you just proved my point with your demonstration.

asalimpo:
i dont see how death leads people of all types and status to perform a unanimous action even without external prompting or propaganda.

You don't see how the problem of death could influence EVERYONE to seek answers about it?

Everyone dies, my brother, even those who live in remote and isolated communities. This is a universal problem. Those with eyeballs can SEE that dead people stay DEAD.

Nobody knows what happens after death, and for many, that is an intolerable uncertainty. Our pattern seeking brain tries to find a matching pattern, even though it cannot see on the other side of the life barrier. So the first answer that tries to resolve this uncertainty is usually adopted.

Even if the characters in the story walk on water and multiply one agege bread into millions, your brain is attracted to the story more than the reality of absolute uncertainty.

"A sense of uncertainty about the future generates a strong threat or 'alert' response in your limbic system. Your brain detects something is wrong, and your ability to focus on other issues diminishes. Your brain doesn't like uncertainty - it's like a type of pain, something to be avoided. Certainty on the other hand feels rewarding, and we tend to steer toward it, even when it might be better for us to remain uncertain"

http://m.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-brain-work/200910/hunger-certainty

OLAADEGBU:
You are still giving lame excuses. Why not admit that it is because you love your sinful lifestyle and that you don't want to be accountable on the Judgment Day?

Thou shall not tell lies. You're encouraging me to lie. That's another reason why Jesus is a myth.

If Jesus was real, you wouldn't be coercing others to tell lies.

finofaya:
I'm tempted to agree. I just consider that it might be possible to worship the white Jesus as God and still not defer to any white person. I get the hint from the anti semitic sentiments directed at the people of Jesus' ethnicity, sometimes by Christians such as those in 1940's Germany. We also have present day Christians who have no interest in Israelis. Such persons have no difficulty separating their deity from people who share his ethnicity.

The damage is mostly subliminal anyway. Very few are conscious of the situation.

Make we reach 2015 first now. Someone will fall down a flight of stairs after reading this jinx. Three weeks is a long time bro.

The list should be one item long:

Keep inhaling and exhaling.

She looks like a male friend of mine.

johnw74:
I believe a Christian should not purposely sin, but we can sometimes sin due to temptation.

No temptation is strong enough to cause a man to roast himself forever.

Those who "sin" don't really believe in the reality of hell fire, or God for that matter.

I deny Jesus because not only have I not met the individual, but the people who claim to have met him don't seem too afraid of disobeying him.

I wouldn't dare disobey a dictator who sees everything under the sun.

Horus:
Accepting an imported alien religion has killed our peoples minds!. Africans dont know the consequences of accepting an alien religion. If an African accepts Judaism and Christianity as his religion, he has accepted the Caucasian as his visible God. The same with Islam, if an African person accepts Al Islam and its many branches as his religion, then it accepts the Desert Arab as his God. That person cannot have power over, or be equal to the Caucasian, or Arab because here, the Caucasian and the Arab has been accepted as the superior power.

True talk. We're working against our own progress by offering prayers to a white man to solve our problems.

Talk about placebo effect. The thing is working too. Just look at Africa, compared to everywhere else.

Nothing to see here. This man is selling a book. To a specific audience. Nothing more, nothing less.

This is the plan that Yahweh had in mind for Isaac, before changing his mind.

Abraham even had his butcher knife ready.

igbo2011:
IQ doesn't exist it is also culturally biased. It started by a guy who was trying to kill Jewish people: http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/now-scientists-want-to-tell-you-that-iq-doesnt-exist/

That's not exactly the current consensus. This is what they're saying:

"IQ tests are misleading because they do not accurately reflect intelligence, according to a study which found that a minimum of three different exams are needed to measure someone's brainpower."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/9755929/IQ-tests-do-not-reflect-intelligence.html

nora544:
I know this!

I know that many parents in america teach their kids at home because all what they need to know they can read it in the bible.

Only real middle class families can afford to home school. Everyone else is at work most of the time.

John 14:12
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.


"Peter Wald's family truly believed he would rise from the dead.

NEW: PETA’s Hamilton billboard pitch plays on father’s corpse story

They believed it because they had prayed for it, every single day, while his corpse lay rotting for six months in an upstairs bedroom of their Hamilton home.
When neighbours asked about her husband, curious about the 52-year-old man's seeming disappearance, Kaling Wald would tell them he was "in God's hands now."

On Monday, Kaling, 50, pleaded guilty to failing to notify police or the coroner that her husband had died due to a sickness that was not being treated by a doctor. It's the first known case of its kind (involving the resurrection belief) in Canada.

The criminal charges originally laid in the case – neglect of duty regarding a dead body and offering an indignity to a body – were withdrawn and replaced with that single charge under the Coroner's Act.

Kaling had no ill intent, all agreed. As assistant crown attorney Janet Booy put it, the devout Christian woman's faith had "tainted and warped her better judgment."

"We were trusting God…we thought, 'OK Lord, you know better," Kaling told the Spectator after court Monday, with lawyer Peter Boushy by her side.

Peter Wald, 52, died "probably around March 20th" last year, according to the agreed statement of facts read out in court Monday. He'd suffered from diabetes and his left foot had become infected. But he had refused to go to the hospital and believed God would cure him.

He went into a coma, she says, and days later she noticed his stomach bloating and signs of rigor mortis on his forehead.

She then left him – his body covered with two blankets, his head with a toque – in the bed and padlocked the bedroom door.

Kaling sealed in the door and the vents with duct tape to protect her family from the smell of the cadaver. And then for six months, life went on and they prayed for their dead husband and father in the bed upstairs as they awaited his return.

It was Sept. 17, 2013 when the body was finally discovered. The sheriff had arrived to evict the family from the St. Matthews Avenue, near Barton Street East and Wentworth Street North, house after they had defaulted on the mortgage."

Read the rest...

http://m.thespec.com/news-story/5165939-hamilton-family-left-corpse-upstairs-for-six-months-expecting-resurrection/

[b]"Gallup has asked Americans to choose among three views of evolution. One view is that humans “developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God guided this process.” Another view is that humans “developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God had no part in this process.” The third option is that “God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so.
In that three-decade span, the young-Earth creationist option has always been the most popular choice. The percentage of respondents who affirm it has never fallen below 40. These findings, along with similar poll numbers, often alarm scientists, journalists, and educators. Nearly half of Americans, if not more, seem to be hardcore creationists.

But they aren’t. A new study, sponsored by the BioLogos Foundation and conducted by Calvin College sociologist Jonathan Hill, explores beliefs about evolution and creation in greater detail. The results show far more nuance, variation, and doubt than is commonly supposed. Most Americans do believe God created us. But the harder you press about historical claims in the Bible, the less confident people are. The percentage who stand by young-Earth creationism dwindles all the way to 15 percent.

The survey, taken last summer and released on Tuesday, asked more than 3,000 people a range of questions about human origins. At Slate’s request, Hill provided detailed data and cross-tabulations on several questions. We’ve lined up the numbers here, from the most to least popular statements, to show how the poll numbers decline as you press people about their confidence in specific aspects of creationism."[b/]

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/human_nature/2014/12/creationism_poll_how_many_americans_believe_the_bible_is_literal_inerrant.html

finofaya:
I think the problem, if any, is beyond religion.

It doesn't help when black people maintain white deities in their heads. Science knows so LITTLE about consciousness to the point where we can't afford to take that risk.

Anything could be going on. We could be the ones sustaining our own misery somehow.

Was he smoking weed or bath salts? This is like the bath salts behavior we've been seeing lately in the states.

Weed doesn't make people prone to violence. But bath salts can turn young people into instant CANNIBALS.

See what the young man, pictured below, did to this poor homeless man in the middle of the street. The police had to cap him, but the guy had already EATEN the man's face.

corektchic:
Na this woman born dat oyinbo boy for am?? They need paternity test.

I was thinking it, and then you said it.

He shouldn't invite any more of his friends over for bbq. One is obviously doing to his wife what Delonte West did to LeBron James mama in Cleveland.

The boy no get job today today.

igbo2011:
IQ does not exist. African contributed to the world as well.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLk50p7YdK0

You're talking about African contribution to civilization and I'm talking about IQ tests.

The overwhelming majority of black people perform horribly on IQ tests. That's not to say that whites are smarter, I KNOW they're not, but you can't deny the results.

Jesus and Mohammed play a huge role in dumbing down black people. We've embraced a white deity for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

I think that's why the majority of black people average 80 or so. It's impossible to polish a turd and try to pass it off as a bar of chocolate.

If we could only get these white people out of our collective heads...

How can someone sell a car without displaying the model YEAR?

The year is almost as important as the name of the vehicle.

That's why Taye Taiwo only buys brand new cars. LOL.

Dat guy get shot power pass Oliseh. I swear. His left foot is as strong as Roberto Carlos left foot.

asalimpo:
still not addressg d point.
1 million different tribes with no contact with the outside world strtg up, from just a man and a woman, will still seek after a god.
Mayb not all but an overwhelmng majority, over 90% , will seek to connect to a higher power.
Would u say, all this distinct upstrt families all 'reasoned god' out? No.

The problem of death is universal, regardless of geographic location. Research shows that humans prefer an answer, even the wrong one, over no answer at all.

God provides an answer to the problem of death. As for me, I prefer the truth, regardless of what it implies.

NoContract:
You are an Islamic time bomb, waiting to detonate.

Only the will of Allah matters to me. Everything else, including your opinion, is secondary.

Embrace your creator, or face the punishment later.

Dapo777:
This Sinequanon guy is either a troll or a potential schizophrenic patient.

How would someone agree that GOD is an illusion and still accuse some set of people to be in self denial for refusing to believe in the illusion, like he is immune to this himself.

I wonder how he is So sure we don't have a strong reason NOT to believe in GOD,like his own reason for not believing in a personal GOD is stronger and more valid than our own reason,So he is right and we are simply burying our head in sand. What a funny thinking pattern.

Sinequanon, tell us your own valid reason/s for not believing in GOD and hell fire.

He told you na, he's a limited edition human being. Only 30 of them are alive today.