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musKeeto:
These are solely my views. I will post a link to a thread where this issie was discussed in detail.

Good/bad are subjective. Whatever we sense is necessary for our immediate survival instincts would ne regarded as good. What threatens it is regarded as evil.
Morality evolves over time just like everything else.

It is like language. Humans agree a sound or word has a meaning and then we agree to stick to it. It is also subject to change overtime and can be influenced by other cultures.

I do not believe there is an objective morality, some divine moral code we are obliged to follow or obey.
I hope this helps. I will post the link I mentioned later. A bit busy these days.

How u dey? long time..

Women are stoned to death for adultery in Muslim countries. Now I don't condone martial promiscuity in the least, but that's a bit too harsh, if you ask me. Some of them are sexy chicks too, getting their heads bashed in because Mr. Imam was wasn't handling his business like a man.

Stoning is a family event in those countries. Sometimes the children are dressed in their best clothes to attend the event with their parents. I even heard that the ice cream guy makes a killing there, no pun intended.

Good and bad are subjective, but they're often along cultural lines in cases where religion is absent. It's very difficult to unravel, tbh.

RikoduoSennin:
Who told you Yahweh is omniscience? He told Abraham that he is going down to check if the report about Sodom and Gomorrah is true. He only knew Abraham's faith when he was about to Sacrifice his son, He regretted in making man etc does that sound to you like omniscience.

You don't believe in him, yet you use such words to discribe him.NB. He has the ability to know but he chooses when and how to use it, he is not a. Insufferable know-it-all kind of person.




You opinion, not that it matters. The advice found in the bible are timeless- that's is why it is the most widely distributed, translated book in the history of man.



You don't believe in the bible, you don't know what faith is, just leave it like that. Don't argue something you know little about. We who have faith are telling you why we have it (that is, based on EVIDENCE).

The fact that Jesus exist- archeology confirms the existence of caiaphas, Pontus Pilate, and other people along with their rank and position held during the time of Jesus.

Timeline (BC, AD), entire religion spanning from the first century C.E, etc are based on a fictious character so you tell me.

You raise a number of interesting points. First of all, I didn't know that the Christian God, Yahweh, was not omniscient. My mistake. I got that idea from the following verses in the bible, just to name a few:

Job 28:24
For he looks to the ends of the earth
and sees everything under the heavens.

Isaiah 46:9
I am God, and there is none like me, declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times things not yet done.

Psalm 139:4
Even before a word is on my tongue,
behold, O Lord, syou know it altogether.

1 John 3:19-20
By this we shall know that we are of the truth and reassure our heart before him; for whenever our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and he knows everything.

Psalm 139:4
Even before a word is on my tongue,
behold, O Lord, you know it altogether.

Regarding your Jesus business, you and I know that proving his actual existence takes us nowhere. There's this little pickle about him being the son of the yet unproven Yahweh which must be overcome.

BraveGuy:
Of course, it's obvious how delusional you are when you have no clue as to what you are actually talking about - ever read the Old Testament before? Ever read Daniel 7:9 before or the settings of Leviticus 23:24 or something called the Feasts of Trumpets? Of course, a deluded mind who is so foolish and clueless will have no such knowledge nor understanding that such existed before Rome was ever born.

Oh, do you want to enter the old testament, or leave it alone? Hahaha

BraveGuy:
I am yet to see any of you so-called atheist prove there is no God.

Funny, I haven't seen any of you prove his existence either.

alexis:
Weah96



Dude, what is the point; am I denying that I copied it? The issue is simple; the claims I made or copied; are they historically incorrect. I referred to the Septuagint on the case of Isaiah 7:14; you haven't given me a response on it. You claimed Christians fabricated the prophecy of Jesus Virgin birth; the Septuagint is a Hebrew manuscript written by Hebrews and Jews themselves 200 years before the advent of Jesus. They translated the word as virgin - Can you please respond to that and stop going around in circles.

I already responded by posting a link. Or do you expect me to copy and paste?

veecovee:
believe it or not, you cant get to heaven after advertising occults, sex and satanism on your wears here on earth.

You need Jesus, real or imagined. Hahaha.

asudan:
Make them see reasons why they should turn off their microphone.

And you call this wisdom? Hahaha. Where are you from?

In most parts of Africa, asking a church to turn down their music will immediately cause them to suspect a demonic motivation.

Not only will they play even louder, but now your name will be shouted over that same speakerphone.

That's a Caucasian family. The little boy in the picture represents the image that our African brothers and sisters pray to, and worship, on a daily basis.

The child is our saviour from Ebola, in Human baby form.

Btw, the blond hair is NOT a coincidence, but a point of emphasis, establishing the fact that the boy has trace amounts of eumelanin only, making him non black.

Ritualism, that's what this God business is.

T.B Joshua belongs in the fortune cookie business.

finofaya:
Kindly light up another blunt, if you are not in Nigeria where smoking weed is illegal.

Weed is illegal in most places. Like Nigeria, consumption of it continues unabated. Potheads in Nigeria aren't worried about the law.

Raiders:
what kinda prove do you need?

Do you see, hear, feel, smell, or touch him? How can I corroborate your assertion?

Tallesty1:
You and I.............. No matter what we do.. No matter how hard we try.. Cannot change this world to a better place.

Why? Is it because God said so?

RikoduoSennin:
On the Above, I don't get you? Human parents do what God did because we are made in his image, what is wrong with that.

Your lack of comment on "Faith". I take it you and I are now in agreement eh.

Human parents do not have the gift of omniscience, so a test of loyalty can be justified on those grounds.

Yahweh is described as omniscient, therefore any subsequent test to determine the loyalty of human beings is REDUNDANT.

It goes to show that the words of the bible are merely the ramblings of drug addicts under the influence of psychoactive plants, not unlike extant native doctors and shamans.

I haven't conceded anything on faith.
Let's take your faith in the existence of Jesus as an example. Do you have any evidence for his existence other than mere faith in the text of the bible?

BraveGuy:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2799385/glimpses-life-brain-surgeon-told-saw-heaven-coma-today-reveals-stories-say-ve-similar-life-changing-experiences.html

Neurosurgeon Dr Eben Alexander was convinced out-of-body experiences were hallucinations — until he went into a coma himself and had what he now believes was a glimpse of heaven.

Do you have to get into a coma before you believe?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2799385/glimpses-life-brain-surgeon-told-saw-heaven-coma-today-reveals-stories-say-ve-similar-life-changing-experiences.html

Endogenous DMT. Terence McKenna once said that "magic IS real," that was what he meant.

veecovee:
BROTHER, I M VERY CAREFUL OF EMBLEMS, SIGNS AND SYMBOLS, THESE LAST DAYS

Why? Is the spirit of Lucifer located within the fabric or the symbols?

Chai! I seriously doubt that there's an adult white person on this planet who would say something like this in public.

Ebola is ongoing, and you're having visions about symbols?

urcutecrush:
Haahhahahahahahahaha
If homosexual's conscience doesn't disturb them then who are u to tell them its wrong

Ask am again oh.

malvisguy212:
So my point here is to show you that satan is the author of evil because he bring the idea of tempting job.

Show me in the bible. You're lying.

RikoduoSennin:
You ask you son to do a dangerous task, you knew he could not do it or you would let he do it, but you want to see if he will try- due to his high regard for you. Human parents do that.

Human parents, you say eh? That's my point.

malvisguy212:
God is not the author of evil.

Is the bible not the word of God again?

mazaje:
You don't need any arguments to show that the sun exist, do you?. . .

The wind is INVISIBLE and yet no one is arguing that it isn't there either.


Hahaha. These guys kill me with laughter, I swear.

The holy books make too many huge claims about their individual Gods, that's what the problem is. Its difficult to prove anything after making claims of that magnitude. The proof cannot be wishy washy, like those SCOAN TV miracles. Hahaha.

sukkot:
isaiah 45 vs 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil

deut 28 vs 61 Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the LORD bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed. <<< you did say God is incapable of doing evil

amos 3 vs 6 shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

BROS NO TRY THE LORD OOOO, HE WILL DO EVIL TO KICK SOME AZZ AS REVENGE

The bible suggests that God and Lucifer hang out at the same spots. They even have conversations over bottles of Chianti, planning how to f)ck us up.

The point is that the lad exited his mother's box while holding the Qur'an.

If a virgin can conceive WITHOUT the presence of human s)emen, then it's possible for babies to be born holding strange objects in their hands.

According to babycenter.com, Jesus was one of the top 100 names for all Hispanic males born in 2012.

http://www.babycenter.com/0_100-most-popular-hispanic-baby-names-for-boys-in-2012_10376553.bc

I know at least three dudes called Jesus today, walking around in Atlanta.

RikoduoSennin:
Eg. Q: Why did Abraham display faith when he about to sacrifice his son -
A: "THE REASON" is he reckon God was able to bring him back to life.

Before we go any further, does this make sense to you? A God asking someone to slice the neck of their only child in obedience?

I see wicked men written all over this, not some God.
God would be a re)tarded 3yr old to ask a man to kill his son, with his own hands.

And to make things worse, the God who supposedly made this demand was capable of reading the minds of human beings.

He would have known the strength of Abraham's belief in him, rendering the sacrifice redundant.

alexis:
Weah96



Not from a website; I researched 3 sites actually. I never claimed that the response was personally mine



I didn't expect much from you on the matter. You raised objections but when we reviewed one of the earliest sources - it has given clarity on the matter.



Is it missing Isaiah 7:14?

Bro, 8 lines of text in that comment belonged to you. The rest was a DIRECT copy and paste job from here:
http://www.gotquestions.org/virgin-or-young-woman.html

I could copy and paste one of several detailed replies, but it isn't my style. I prefer to inform readers about the source of any quotation, even those that look like my own words.

BraveGuy:
Well, that is the difference; to you it is a million dollar and expensive question to answer, but to the rest of us, we have already been enlightened to understand the truth, Jesus paved the Way for us.
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Arrogance disguised as humility. This imaginary Jesus, what exactly did he say to you? Did he speak through your stomach or your heart? Hahaha.

asalimpo:
*if u believe something strongly enuff,it will become like truth to you no matter how ridiculous it initially seemed . Life from non life e.g

Life from non life? Is that not YOUR argument for Yahweh's existence, or is Yahweh not a living thing again? Where did Yahweh come from? Hahaha.

BraveGuy:
Were these as a result of hallucinations?

Million dollar question.

JMAN05:
So evidence is so convincing that faith is said to be it.

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No, there is NO EVIDENCE, or the evidence is incredibly UNconvincing, so the faith of the person replaces it.

Remember that annoying kid from your childhood who liked to repeat your words?

Using faith as evidence, as Hebrews 11 suggests, is to assume the role of that annoying kid. It's a conversation stopper.

xamster:
are u okay?

Why, because you haven't considered the word of Allah in the Qur'an while planning this little getaway to be with the Lord Jesus?

urcutecrush:
Because jesus doesn't exist period.and even if he does which i know he doesn't he is overrated

LOL. Jackie Chan can take him on mano a mano.