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malvisguy212:
God love everybody,but the people choses hell over heaven

This is a virtual impossibility. Humans have been known to do unspeakable things in order to spare the lives of loved ones, let alone their own.

That's the whole point of torture. When presented with real danger, people tell you what you want to hear.

What you're saying is quite the opposite of observable human nature.
You're saying that I'm choosing to get burned repeatedly for eternity, even though an eternity of bliss is being dangled as a choice right before my face.

What exactly makes you think that I love to get roasted?

malvisguy212:
God gives us the knowledge of evil so that man can have the option to choses between good and bad,God is capable of doing evil,but he wont,the bible make it clear that God is good.

Did you just say that God installed a particular software in our brains which causes us to constantly consider horrible actions as well as good ones?

You may have just answered the question. I say, thread closed.

Reyginus:
Lol. Calm down we are still about to start the argumen. Remember the argument is why you don't believe that God exists because of what is obtainable in Genesis. Do you think I should go further with the very subject with some questions? Are you ready?

This is not a real argument. God is an amorphous term and could mean anything from the $20 bill in my pocket to my Ford Taurus. Or even a mystical being who interferes in human activities.

If by God, you mean Jesus and Yahweh, then Genesis isn't even needed to refute the existence of those two.

lightking99:
why go to church?
If you're spiritually alive, you're going to
love this!
If you're spiritually dead, you won't want
to read it.
If you're spiritually curious, there is still
hope!
A Church goer wrote a letter to the editor of
a newspaper and complained that it made
no sense to go to church every Sunday.
"I've gone for 30 years now," he wrote,
"and in that time I have heard something
like 3,000 sermons. But for the life of me, I
can't remember a single one of them. So, I
think I'm wasting my time and the pastors
are wasting theirs by giving sermons at all."
This started a real controversy in the
"Letters to the Editor" column, much to the
delight of the editor. It went on for weeks
until someone wrote this clincher:
"I've been married for 30 years now. In
that time my wife has cooked some 32,000
meals. But, for the life of me, I cannot recall
the entire menu for a single one of those
meals. But I do know this... They all
nourished me and gave me the strength I
needed to do my work. If my wife had not
given me these meals, I would be physically
dead today. Likewise, if I had not gone to
church for nourishment, I would be
spiritually dead today!"
When you are DOWN to nothing, God is UP
to something!
Faith sees the invisible, believes the
incredible and receives the impossible!
Thank God for your physical AND our
spiritual nourishment!
When Satan is knocking at your door,
simply say, "Jesus, could you get that for
me?"
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Entering a particular building every seven days prevents you from dying 'spiritually?'

Native doctor things!!

It's not really a sacrifice if you're going to be walking around three days later.

zboyd:
The girls said she was a witch for Jesus, then he slapped the taste out of her mouth.

The girl must be fatherless. Or she was a compensated troll.

FOLYKAZE:
The Hateist I am refering to are the militant atheists. I think there is saw the word 'hatetheist' on the internet sometimes ago, it best describe them.

Divinity and deity is same thing like excellent and god.

God has been broken to many things here but you have failed to tell us which God you tend to disbelieve or believe in it existence.

Again I will repeat, you are God (Orisha). Do you disbelieve in your existence?


And pls, supernatural has nothing to do with God. Everything in Nature is super. When there is no logical and emprical explanation for a phenomena, it is supernatural.

I don't understand your confusion. Deity, as a word, rarely refers to amorphous deities, like my Ford Taurus. When almost anyone in the universe talks about God, they mean a deity who answers prayers.

Other connotations of the word exist, of course, but that is by far the primary one. The reason is simple, there are over 2 billion Jesus people, and almost the same amount of Allah folks.

Proximo73:
witchcraft do not exist. we are deceived in Africa. by the way, why is this man so keen to establish a school in the UK? what does he stand to achieve?
so that it will be in the record that he is the first pastor in Africa to have a school in the UK and be in Guinness book of record?
what a senseless pursuit

Tax purposes, probably for wealthy family members who own businesses in the UK. The church is not enough.

He needs another tax free asset so that his family members can receive a deduction every time they make a donation to the school.

European taxes are notoriously HIGH, to say the least.

FOLYKAZE:
Sorry for cutting down this. . . . .

Atheism is not a-theism. It is 'atheos' meaning without god. So atheism is not about theistic god but general god.

Atheism is only concerned with deities, bro. A general God is amorphous, merely a syntactical organization of words, correct as that arrangement may turn out to be.

ikeugbo:
please dont misinterprete my statement, they go to canaanland every sunday thats what i meant. He has been their shepherd for over 30yrs thats my point people should stop calling them fools. His schedule many people cannot undertake sleep by 2am and back at the office by 8am. Its only poor people that cry at other peoples wealth

I always hear this word 'shepherd' being thrown around, as if it's a good thing. Do you understand the relationship between a shepherd and a flock? Hahaha.

majekdom2:
the said girl , said she is a witch for jesus .... thats like saying you do evil to please jesus . am hoping you are a christain , if not dont quote me pls

Pinhead.

winedeal:
And beside it's dangerous to ur health

What is dangerous for one's health, the weed or smoking in general?

FOLYKAZE:
Mr. . . . .atheism is simply disbelieve in God.

You are the one nailing the the coffin. . . . . .

Anthromorphisation is more like personification, figurative expression which are mostly used in lieratures from time to time. A reasonable person does not have to grasp only the personality attachment but the message been passed.

In your argument you mean to say something like this:

'In Ondo town yesterday, it rain cat and dog'.

On reading this, you went on rampage shouting it is impossible for cat and dog to fall from the sky.

The above sample goes for atheists everywhere. You dont believe in God. . . . . .but the question remains on what God is.

You come here calling on Yahweh, Allah and Zeus as if that is the only God that exist. You look at the dictionary everyday and see God defined as influencial, admired and revered person yet you act as if you dont see it. You read about many conception of God but only sees theistic conception and behave as if the other conception is irrelevant. Everyday, all we hear is noises. . . . .. Noises of unjustified religious belief.

Atheism is not about theistic God. . . . .that should be Non-theism or anti-theism.

What happen to other God conception? Spinoza, pantheism and others? Do you believe in them?

Like I asked Mazaje, do you believe in Iyale (Mother Earth)? She is a personification of Nature. She is pantheistic, anthromorphical and polythiestic Goddess. Been an atheist, do you disbelieve in the existence of God/Goddess; Mother Earth which is Nature? Do you disbelieve in the existnce of Nature?

I only care about exposing the lies being spread about personal Gods. Other ideas of God are not my concern.

I'm totally fine with our planet being called Gaia or Goddess. At least I can SEE the earth, so call it what you like.

Once you start praying to Gaia though, the rules change. She becomes a personal Goddess.

obongproff:
Nna people funny oh! With dis kind heavy water melon, una still day ask for yansh again. How can people be so greedy?

If my girlfriend get dis one, no need for yansh again na cos I got all I want rite dere.

I love boobs!

Once she hits 40 those things will turn to saddle bags. Saddle bags and a flat derriere at 40.

You'll need the yansh my brother. Something to hold on to as you drift closer to Allah.

stonecoldcafe:
Are you folks joking? For my own spouse body? Quote the verse in the bible for me verbatim and dont try to sell me emotional reasons here. I bah to una sha.
Please show me a scripture that clearly states its a sin to go down on my husband.

On the contrary, the bible clearly states that the body of your spouse belongs to you. LOL.


1 Corinthians 7 King James Version (KJV)

3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.

4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

mazaje:
End of discussion. . . .

I agree.

FOLYKAZE:
We are getting there bro. . . .

I want you to understand that attributing human character or personification of entity which brought it been describe as God brings much flaws into atheism.

From your argument, atheism is rooted on the disbelieve in personality attached to an entity rather than the entity itself.

Atheism tend to pull against thought and not reality on ground.

I think you understand me here?

Atheists don't come on here and say there's no God. I find the ones usually making that statement to be the Muslims and Christians, putting words in our mouths, so to speak.

Every atheist bashing thread on this site begins with some Christian or Muslim shouting that atheists are fools for not believing in God. How is that not propaganda?

It's a clever manipulation of words, very similar to what these politicians do to one another here in the US. Obviously it works, because now you're claiming that atheists are the ones doing the anthropomorphization.

I've always been very specific here, even going as far as providing evidence showing why Jesus doesn't exist.

Problem is, there's just too many of them. Win one over, and a hundred more come on here screaming that, "atheists don't believe in God" crap all over again.

Jesus, Yahweh, Allah, Zeus, and Poseidon are easy to disprove. They don't exist. Their own storybooks give them away.

franklyn009:
by healed in my presence, I meant I was with her in d program. After d program, she notice d ulcer was gone.

Which ulcer? There are many kinds. Are you referring to stomach ulcer?

FOLYKAZE:
You have a point there.

But I will like to ask further more for clarity, do you believe or disbelieve in spinoza's God?

I wouldn't say that I believe in it, because it isn't an anthropomorphic God. More like I'm aware of the idea and acknowledge it.

FOLYKAZE:
Atheism is nothing more than the noises reasonable people make in the presence of unjustified religious beliefs.

^^^^ A qoute from uncle Harris.



Overtime through the journey, I perceive this quote to be truth. Atheism as a term should not exist, it does not make any sense.

When defined, atheism is simply disbelieve in the existence of God or deity. That known, the bigger problem roll in when atheists are charged to define what they mean by God which they disbelieve in. Many atheists would define God/deity as the creator of earth and end there. Many seem to view the word God from christianity and islamic angle. They forget that God as a term does not end with christianity and Islam. Out there today, God has different definition and conception. It is also not a personal name but more like a tag or label.

In some conceptions, God is a natural entity.

In the dictionary, God is an influencial person.

Therefore;

- If atheism as defined is the disbelieve in the existence of God, atheists should be able to tell us if they disbelieve in all definition and conception of God. Then we can arrive to God been define as influencial, admired and respected person; we arrive to the pantheistic definition of God as Nature and Natural entities. How can someone disbelieve in the existence of God (defined as influencial person or natural entities)? Will an atheist look into my face and tell me respected person and Natural entities does not exist? Well I will have to ask such atheist to check his/her brain.


- If atheism is the believe in some conception of God and disbelieve in some other conception God, then we can conclude such stance is rooted in confusion. Atheists don't believe in God, but you see them just talking about the Christian and Islamic God; what about spinoza's god? In the dictionary, God is defined as Theartre gallery, do we atheists disbelieve in the existence of theatre gallery? If there can be any strain of believe in any concept of God, then atheism seize to exist.

Atheists define God as a personal God, and I agree. I have no problem with Spinoza's God. In fact, it's difficult to argue against the idea.

franklyn009:
lol....for what reason would I lie?
like I said earlier, u guys r deliberately ignorant of facts. Or else wat would u call someone who got healed of ulcer right in my presence, my best friend for dat matter n u said am lying.................I laugh at u guys in ur ignorance. Ur type is well summarized in psalm 14:1 n 53:1.

How can someone be healed of ulcer in your presence? I hope you're not referring to STOMACH ulcer!! Hahaha.

franklyn009:
IMO, atheists are irrational beings, who are deliberately ignorant of clear facts. Its only a crazy person dat would not believe dat der is a supernatural being out der with powers beyond human imagination. The universe and creation is a big mystery which can not be answered by science nor man......The best n logical answer to mystery behind creation and existence is just to believe there is a supreme being(which different religion all refer to as God) governing over the world.
And this supernatural being prove his existence through supernatural happenings on earth that are unexplainable by man. One of these includes MIRACLES....

So the BIG question here is how do atheists explain supernatural happenings such as MIRACLES since they don't believe in any supernatural being

And an example of such a miracle would be...? It may look like a miracle, but the pediatric cancer ward at the local hospital suggests that there's no such thing.

VirginFinder:
Repent today

I'll repent six seconds before kicking the bucket. You don't really have to speak in order to be born again. Hahaha.
All one has to do is talk in one's own head. Right? Say a few magic words and I'm in there.

JackBizzle:
Mysteries = God exists.


Funny.

Not only some generic God, but a particular character God from a book. Can you imagine?

The invisible God who doesn't speak and leaves a book to be interpreted anyhow.

Dheartless:
I dislike big boobs like shit.
for me idi nla is the turn on(round big sexy a$s).
well one man's like is another man's hate.

I like them both. Together. Booty and 38Ds.

I never said there isn't a God. Identifying invisible people is not exactly my area of expertise.

However, I know for a fact that Yahweh and Jesus are merely imaginary characters. Not Jesus the human, but Jesus the God. Entirely fictional.

How do I know this? I read the bible. It said that Noah gathered a male and female member of every species on earth, and put them on a boat. One boat.

A handful of white people, and a bunch of animals. Everything else perished.

Yet there are over 150 million Nigerians today.

That's what I call an accelerated evolutionary transformation. Hahaha.

Muyogoa:
We all know that muslims are solely against it. But,Is it alright for a christian couple to engage in this dirty act?

Mouth action is a commandment from God. Remember, it is better to give than receive.

asalimpo:
One original many fakes.
That they are many similar stories points to d fact they must b a real one.

The fake has to be one of the COPYCATS, including your precious Heeb.

wilsondave:
. the best business to do in Nigeria nowadays is to establish a church.

In the US too. Churches are booming here, tax free.

READINGLIFE:
Wrestling words with you would be demeaning. It is clearly written, "For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish, foolishness; but unto us which are saved, it is the power of GOD" (1Corinthians 1:18).

I'd advise you thus, "...choose you this day whom ye will serve...but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD" (Joshua 24:15). Shalom!

Touting the benefits of human sacrifice might sound noble to you, but some of us find it distasteful.

Reyginus:
That's even a wrong question. I mean he has always existed. 'where' suggests a location. Location suggests existence of matter. Existence of matter suggests that he needed a place to stick around. And that doesn't sound like he is the uncaused cause.

This was my point. You said that he's always been around.

"Where" does indicate a location. Where was this uncaused god when there wasn't anything?