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winner01:
But why now?
I want to know where the indians were killed because of their disbelief in God or because americans wanted their lands.

Christians exterminated them in order to occupy their lands. The fact that they were indigenous heathens had everything to do with it. Can we divorce purpose from identity?

Stalin killed those opposed to his ideas, did he kill because people believed in god? That's a real narrow way of presenting an argument.

Let's see how long it takes Buhari to sack his minister of youth and sports.

In the US, the level of publicity will guarantee not only a prompt dismissal, but JAIL TIME.

"Thus, according to Ward Churchill, a professor of ethnic studies at the University of Colorado, the reduction of the North American Indian population from an estimated 12 million in 1500 to barely 237,000 in 1900 represents a"vast genocide . . . , the most sustained on record." By the end of the 19th century, writes David E. Stannard, a historian at the University of Hawaii, native Americans had undergone the"worst human holocaust the world had ever witnessed, roaring across two continents non-stop for four centuries and consuming the lives of countless tens of millions of people." In the judgment of Lenore A. Stiffarm and Phil Lane, Jr.,"there can be no more monumental example of sustained genocide—certainly none involving a 'race' of people as broad and complex as this—anywhere in the annals of human history."

http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/7302

Another one:

https://espressostalinist.com/genocide/native-american-genocide/

The American Indian Holocaust, known as the “500 year war” and the “World’s Longest Holocaust In The History Of Mankind And Loss Of Human Lives.”
Genocide and Denying It: Why We Are Not Taught that the Natives of the United States and Canada were Exterminated

Death Toll: 95,000,000 to 114,000,000

By mass-execution prior to the arrival of Columbus the land defined as the 48 contiguous states of America numbered in excess of 12 million. Four centuries later, it had been reduced by 95% (237 thousand). How? When Columbus returned in 1493 he brought a force of 17 ships. He began to implement slavery and mass-extermination of the Taino population of the Caribbean. Within three years five million were dead

Why do you ignore 100 million dead humans? Narrative doesn't add up, heh?

4everGod:
Lol here comes another one. by the way its Arian and not Aryan

I am done here!

It's spelled Aryan in the US. Arian is a Christian ideology.

SolaceAndexIII:
Sir Isaac Newton had a friend who was an atheist scientist. Once, the man came in after Newton had just finished making his solar system machine (one of those machines in a science museum where the planets and other heavenly bodies move around as the machine is cranked by a handle).
The man saw the machine and said: “How wonderful!” and went over to it and started cranking the handle and the planets went around.
As he was cranking the machine, he asked: “Who made this?”
Sir Isaac stopped writing and said: “Nobody did!” Then he carried on with his writing.
The man said: “You didn’t hear me! Who made the machine?”
Newton replied: “I told you. Nobody did.”
The man stopped cranking and turned to Isaac: “Now listen Isaac, this marvellous machine must have been made by somebody – don’t keep saying that nobody made it.”
So Newton stopped writing and stood up. He looked at his friend and said: “Now isn’t it amazing? I tell you that nobody made a simple toy like that and you don’t believe me. Yet you gaze out into the solar system – the intricate marvellous machine that is around you – and you dare say to me that no one made that. I don’t believe it!”
The man went away and was believed to be no longer an atheist.

Source:
https://http-read-worldreader-org.0.freebasics.com/Book/Read/13d4d4f9-8b42-4d72-8f85-ae19fdcf23d8?version=0&offline=False&chapter=0&page=8&pageSize=4800&iorg_service_id_internal=1615891642002722%3BAfq85NKBXlCRNB13#bookpage

The original author of this piece doesn't understand the argument. It's more like:

Three men find a wristwatch on the street. They are all villagers, having just arrived from the village a day earlier. One of the men tells the others that the watch was made by a watchmaker in Oslo called Wilhelm Getter in 1989. He then proceeds to tell his childhood friends, the same men with whom he arrived, that this Wilhelm Getter has already contacted him. Through his heart and gut feelings.

His friends ask him to provide proof of his claims. Mind you that there is no marking on the watch which betrays the name of the human designer. He refuses, insisting that this Wilhelm Getter person is invisible and is knocking on the doors of their own hearts, begging them to open.

I neva see dis kyn madness b4. Most mad people will just kill their parents finish. Chai!
The mother will now regret wasting 9 months of her life on someone who should have remained in a condom.

The father will ask for a DNA test to confirm the paternity of the beast.
Even madness get level.

KweenSisan:
Matthew 11:25-26
Jesus said-Thank you,father,lord of heaven and earth.You've concealed your ways from sophisticates and KNOW-IT-ALLS..but spelt them out CLEARLY to ordinary people.Yes,father, thats the way you like to work.
...You can see it all in d bible..no one comes to the father except he draws him close...dat shud bother u...if u still don't understand his ways till now..if u still havn't been drawn close...for his ways are not ours...so please...when people...'very intelligent' people start raising arguments....its best u let them b...first pray for God to make them ordinary people...because it is very difficult for the Earthly wise..to understand God...so if its like U can't understand God...I am glad I can understand you..God bless

I agree with you. But this goes against the mandate of evangelism. You are to preach the gospel and entertain questions.

promise10:
You still messing things up!



[size=18pt]For you to say that an eternal being can be conceived[/size] simply means that it is NOT OUT OF AGE.

I am all ears.

I never said the bolded. Read again.

johnydon22:
You are going to redefine what 'Life' means in order to infer this...

What do you mean when you say things are alive here?

http://infohost.nmt.edu/~klathrop/7characterisitcs_of_life.htm

I believe that these particles can demonstrate no less than 6 of these characteristics.

promise10:
My question in this regard is, how did live exist in a non living matter?

And I am yet to see any laboratory experiment that physically prove that life comes from non-living matter.

Just like, life coming from a plastic rubber. Yuck!

Life always existed. It is eternal. Life exists even in what we call nothing. Read the articles.

Like I said, ask me why I think ordinary particles are alive.

promise10:
You are still missing it! When talking about an eternal being, you don't use the word "exist". Because an eternal being didn't COME INTO EXISTENCE. It is eternal.

[size=18pt]An eternal being doesn't come from anything, if it can come from anything then it is not eternal.[/size]

In the bolded, you TOTALLY flawed things down by trying to subject God under science which doesn't work that way.

God didn't beget man the same way man begets man. God made man by his own might, and carved out sciences that will guard man's habitat.

So, it is part of the science carved out by God, that LIVING THINGS MUST BEGET LIVING THINGS, which God is not subject to.

Eternal beings EXIST now, whether or not they were conceived doesn't affect their existence. Let's not get lost in semantics.

According to the enlarged, there are certain beings which do not come from anything. That was all I needed to know.

Thanks. The articles I provided speak about a class of subatomic particles that behaves this way. They seem to suggest that empty space (nothing), is a cauldron of life, transient living particles that interact with other transient particles.

promise10:
If an eternal being should have parents, then they it is NO MORE eternal, because it implies that it CAME INTO EXISTENCE.

Don't you know what eternal means?

Satan in the bible is NOT eternal! God CREATED him, and he now rebelled against the authority of God.

So then eternal beings don't have to come from anything. They have always existed. This means that there is a kind of life that doesn't have to come from a pre-existing life.

promise10:
Please prove this with scientific experimental evidences.

In which form, has life existed?

How did life existed in the form of NOTHING?

Mind you, nothing means without anything even life.

So, how did life existed in the form of NULL(even without life)?

How did life existed in something that has NO LIFE?

https://www.fnal.gov/pub/today/archive/archive_2013/today13-02-01_NutshellReadmore.html

https://www.researchgate.net/post/Are_virtual_particles_really_constantly_popping_in_and_out_of_existence_Can_laser_make_them_real

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-virtual-particles-rea/

Gordon Kane, director of the Michigan Center for Theoretical Physics at the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor, provides this answer.


Virtual particles are indeed real particles. Quantum theory predicts that every particle spends some time as a combination of other particles in all possible ways. These predictions are very well understood and tested.
Quantum mechanics allows, and indeed requires, temporary violations of conservation of energy, so one particle can become a pair of [size=18pt]heavier[/size] particles (the so-called virtual particles), which quickly rejoin into the original particle as if they had never been there.

What I need to show you now is WHY these particles are alive. How must something behave in order for you to call it a living thing? May I continue?

promise10:
Who deceived you that God is nothing?

What you missed is that God is an eternal being.

Eternal beings don't have parents? Is that correct? And there's only one of them. So the bible satan created himself too, because he's described as impossible to kill.

You hate Western education but willing to use cameras and firearms. OK.

Eddlad:
I have to say and surprised, really more like disappointed, you read the bible through and through,several instances where Jesus resurrected the dead, God created everything out of nothing and this is what puzzled you?

My thoughts exactly. To each his own, I guess.

promise10:
But, first of all did life pop out of a non-living thing?

Life has always existed in some form, even in the form of NOTHING.

promise10:
Life CANNOT come from nothing!

But, I rather choose to be deceased than to think the dull-way you think. Damn!

So your god is NOT alive then because living things MUST come from something. What am I missing?

promise10:
Actually, is it really the way I stated in the OP, is how dull you think as an atheist?

Read what you wrote here and see if you understand it. If I'm the dull one then you must be deceased already.
Can life come from nothing or not? Answer my question coherently please.

promise10:
Hey, are you this dull and dumb

Subjecting God under science?

If God is subject to science, then he is simply an IDOL.

God DIDN'T GET life, he NEVER CAME into existence. HE IS ETERNAL!!!

So it IS possible for life to come from absolute nothing after all. Is that what you're saying?

Eddlad:
Am not in disapproval or support of the op, that said tell me why you strongly believe your hypothesis of the origin of creation is no doubt the right one, even when I didn't know God I wasn't this careless with my words.

My hypothesis is grounded in common sense. And I don't go around parading it as the ultimate truth.

In fact, I'm even willing to concede ignorance and say that I don't know. Keep in mind that ignorance doesn't imply gullibility. That someone doesn't know something doesn't mean that he will accept ANY answer.

promise10:
Man has never witnessed mindlessness bring forth intelligence. He’s never seen something come from nothing.

Life can only bring forth life. So tell me, is your god a non living thing? If not, then where did he get his own life from? LOL

hungryboy:
Crazy United,
Why spend so much on an overated Midfielder?

Because he sabi pass like Paul Scholes and tackle like Roy Keane. Oh, and his shot power is for real.

bestower:
NIGERIA... A nation blessed with everything in this world but cursed with just one thing.....LEADERS..heal my country oh lord.

Leaders come from the population. Rotten population cannot produce good leaders. A healthy and moral population will also not produce wicked leaders.

promise10:
I would like to answer your no 1.

First of all, you have to know that the ear that shall hear the trumpet is NOT YOUR PHYSICAL EAR. Sincerely speaking! And it is not your physical eyes that shall see him. When he shall come unbelievers will not see him or hear him, because they are not like him(no spiritual ears and eyes- FAITH). And then, because the unbelievers are ignorant of the rapture, there will be chaos in the world, because of their uncertainty.

As a believer, it is the faith of christ which we have that justifies, keeps us and shall be raptured by it.

Jesus speaking he said; "when I shall come shall I still find you IN YOUR FAITH"

So, it is your faith that will respond to the trumpet and the next thing follows it. So, the spiritual ears and eyes there, is not your physical eyes and ears but simply what is imputed on your by the FAITH of christ.

You're hilarious.

Fell asleep before the game but we won anyway. So someone please tell me why Etebo didn't score again. His leg has power anywhere. He reminds me of the old George Weah from Milan. He even resemble Weah sef.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-GSUeJYtwc

winner01:
You dont gotto lie bro. I mean, I know you can lie if you want, but u dont got to.

Show me what you mean.

winner01:
You dont gotto lie bro. I mean, I know you can lie if you want, but u dont got to.

Then show me these people.

winner01:
Exactly!!!

Weah96, why is atheism a better choice?

The truth is always better than make-believe falsehood. Don't you agree?

winner01:
I guess cos christians are the majority in U.S, they are regressing economically.
And oh, while christianity was majority in the u.k, they suffered a serious economic repression.

Sorry, atheism is dead cos it has a seriously low retention rate. Remove religion, science irreligion, from its topics and it becomes empty.

If you say so. But China isn't China because of the Christians. Everyone important in China is an atheist. In Nigeria, important people are Muslims or Christians.

winner01:
The number of christians in china are about 9 times more than those in Nigeria, and china is not close to being wrecked

Maybe because there are even more atheists than Christians. Unlike Nigeria, atheists in China are the majority group.
#JusSayin

Goddys:
Gift of spirit differs. Some have gift of prophecy,some gift of healing etc. Comr to Chosen with any person with any physical ailment whatsoever,if you don't see what will shock your generations,let me be put to shame in this life! Stop boasting. Come and see raw power as Pastor Lazarus Muoka releases prayers to heaven

Go to the Mosque in Jeddah, by the rail station. You will feel the presence of God.