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JMAN05:
You are right to some extent. For true xtens though, there are basis for there faith. Christian faith has evidence for it. heb 11:1.

Faith itself is the evidence, according to that verse.

KingEbukaNaija:
This comment is really daft . I'm not surprised it's coming from you

Do you understand this statement at all ? The atheists have defined God , God does not fit into their definitions , Therefore God does not exist

You have an erroneous definition for God and since your definition is illogical God does not exist . Messi eating four Cows is definately an impossibility , very illogical to assume such - so it's apparent you rejected the existence of God because he did not fit into your irrational definition for a creator .

So let's ride with this new understanding

What did Messi eat yesterday ?

Well most argentines enjoy their native tea with scrambled eggs in the morning - it's the most likely he had the meal for breakfast .

The only plausible logical explanation for the

1. cause of nature

2. design in nature

3. Functionality of nature

is that they are handiwork of an eternal conscious intelligent creator . An ETERNAL creator caused the universe to exist or it would progress into infinite regression. Nature is designed and functional because of the intelligence behind its existence - where does this come from , from an eternal intelligent entity .

Please reason with your brain next time .

Where did atheists define God? Do you have a link? Most atheists use the Bible definition and declare it one of the stupidest ideas to ever come from human beings.

KingEbukaNaija:

"We dont know but its not God " - atheism .

What lies ? Do you have proof nature is conscious or have no cause , eh brother in faith

The bolded is not illogical. Ignorance doesn't imply gullibility.

It's possible not to know something, and simultaneously reject elaborate scams erected to take advantage of that ignorance.

Do you know exactly what Lionel Messi ate during the course of yesterday? No. Fine.

But he didn't eat 4 cows. Right? Can we say that Messi didn't eat 4 cows all by himself yesterday? We still don't know what he ate. But certain options are ruled out.

KingEbukaNaija:
Hey bro , funny enough atheist scientists stole the idea of an eternal creator from religion .They now contended that the universe could be eternal - this was two or three years ago - with no proof at all . If its not faith , then what is it ?

You even claim nature is conscious with no evidence . You also claim that nature has no cause , with no evidence again . We are both brothers in faith !

No we're not. You're telling lies, while others are trying to solve a real problem.
Atheists have been the ones screaming "we don't know" since the beginning of time.

Roy Hodgson is a homosexual, I don't care what anybody says.

Anas09:
Would it not make more sense if you pick out the disclaimer from the verses i sent you rather than bringing Olumba into this matter?

You said in 1925 or there about, your great grand mother told you about the coming of Christ which hasn't happened, so you are now scoffing, so I posted verses to show you, you are just a tiny dot amongst your folks of scoffers. Scoffing didn't start with you...
Go ahead Weah96, as long as the earth remains, seed time and harvest shall not cease. What you see, in due time, you shall reap.

The writer was telling a lie that the creator of everything spoke to him one day . Everything you quoted was a disclaimer. The writer expects the lie to catch up to him later, things won't add up, so he put that rubbish thereto impress people like you with his premonition abilities. In reality, he's trying to avoid the shame of his lies coming back on his family and tribe.

Your god wrote a book, a manual. The contents of the manual were used to determine the existence business.

The carriers of the god manual, people like you, have not presented any demonstration worthy of the right to be taken seriously. You're like the quintessential snake oil salesman.

You just dey use your mouth to say God, when in reality you're selling the story of a dead Jew from the middle east.

C: kingebukanaija

Anas09:
The Holy Spirit had you I mind when he gave Apt Peter this.

2 Peter 3:2-10 I want you to remember the words that were spoken long ago by the holy prophets, and the command from the Lord and Savior which was given you by your apostles.

First of all, you must understand that in the last days some people will appear whose lives are controlled by their own lusts.

They will make fun of you and will ask, “He promised to come, didn't he? Where is he? Our ancestors have already died, but everything is still the same as it was since the creation of the world!”

They purposely ignore the fact that long ago God gave a command, and the heavens and earth were created.

The earth was formed out of water and by water, and it was also by water, the water of the flood, that the old world was destroyed. But the heavens and the earth that now exist are being preserved by the same command of God, in order to be destroyed by fire.

They are being kept for the day when godless people will be judged and destroyed. But do not forget one thing, my dear friends!

There is no difference in the Lord's sight between one day and a thousand years; to him the two are the same. The Lord is not slow to do what he has promised, as some think.

Instead, he is patient with you, because he does not want anyone to be destroyed, but wants all to turn away from their sins. But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief.

On that Day the heavens will disappear with a shrill noise, the heavenly bodies will burn up and be destroyed, and the earth with everything in it will vanish.

SirWere, if you read what I posted to you, you find where the Holy Spirit called you "A Scoffer". There's a reward for every task under the sun.

Do you know what a disclaimer is? It's when you tell people that the creator of the universe spoke to you and called you the last messenger.

Religious books are riddled with disclaimers. The writers anticipated skeptics, and made arrangements in the text to address them.

It's like Olumba Olumba, for example. He will tell his followers things ahead of time that will address your skepticism. When you see an Olumba follower, try telling him that Olumba is not God. See if he doesn't use old disclaimers from his God to address every point of contention that you raise.

Hiswordxray:
The power of God is not meant for greed.

So why are you worried about passing your exams? Can God not carry food come put for your mouth?

Hiswordxray:
God is supreme over all included earthly laws. Jesus broke natural laws several time in the miracles that he performed. Therefore administrative would also bow before the greatness of God. If only you know how great God is you can tape into His greatness and know exams questions before they come out, I have tried it several times and it's really a blessing. We are privilege as children of the Most High.

Does he also reveal the mega millions numbers ahead of time? Please, I need the upcoming ones, I promise to wire you $5 million cash to continue the ministry of Jesus Christ.

nairalandankrah:
there are teachers in primary and secondary schools who are p~dophiles, does it stop you from sending your children to school? how about the lecturers that threaten young girls/guys to sl*p with them or fail their course?yet millions still purchace jamb forms every year.. my point is, the word "pastor" is just a title. its a name that can be abused just like the others..many people open churches due 2 several reasons like economic hardship etc.. not all pastors are called by God, and not all called originally by God, Are Still Standing in the faith..

So it's like playing Lotto?

histemple:
What other post promotes true Christianity more than this stark reality?
I think you also need to identify the difference between a realist and an atheist before labelling Seun as one. I am still wondering what necessitated the unnecessary mention of Seun here because he didn't author this article neither was he the MOD that brought it to FP.

We must stand up together in condemning the deceptive teachings of these pastors because it's truly causing more problems for our society. It has rendered more people miserable and frustrated in slavery to false teaching that kept them perpetually waiting for miracles.

I was in a church program in Lagos recently organized by Liberation Ministries in Ojodu and the G.O (Chris Okafor) declared that members will start receiving miracle credit alerts in their phones as a proof that he is a real man of God. Seconds later, people started coming out to testify receiving miracle credit alerts.

What else can be more deceitful and discouraging of hardwork than that?

LOL, miracle credit, Hahaha. From who, the pastor himself, no doubt. That pastor is an atheist BTW. No be rocket science.

When you see someone selling cocaine in front of the police precinct, either he's a madman trying to commit suicide, or he knows that the place has been empty for some time.
This pastor is selling cocaine (telling obvious lies) inside of the church building. He knows something that you don't know.

Ogbeche77:
Wonders shall never end... This same pastor Adelaja that has been accused of banging all his female church members (single & married) in far away Ukraine is also calling the kettle black.. Sunday Adelaja also embezzled church funds running up to millions..

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2012/august/prominent-evangelical-pastor-in-ukraine-faces-arrest/?mobile=false


http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2016/may/will-embassy-of-god-punish-sunday-adelaja-multiple-affairs.html

http://www.ibtimes.com/nigeria-corruption-caused-christian-churches-pastor-sunday-adelaja-blames-religious-2046170

Adelaja is a criminal not different from those he has chosen to call out.. Na today we know say Naija pastors be thieves.. Blame those gullible fools that have chosen to part away with their hard earned money

Is he saying the truth or not?

My late grandmother used to tell me about rapture excitement from her childhood in 1925. Almost 100 years later, no rapture. Your children will be old men and women when they tell stories of your own rapture adventures.

Have you seen Constantine? Or the old Exorcist from the 70's? They're both better movies. But this one was OK, I didn't care for the bald headed boy who played the demon.

Mimzy it is.

Cc: NLJega

Rossikk:
We also underestimate the value of African religion in its capacity to create a better life for people by ensuring accountability in public office. If you are a looter, which would you prefer to take your oath of office with? The bible/Koran or IFA/Amadioha?

Of course you'll prefer the former, as there is no punishment for violation. All you need to do is 'pray for forgiveness' - assuming you actually care - after stealing billions. But with African religion, there is nothing like 'forgiveness'. You commit a crime, you pay the dues, in order to cleanse the land of your abomination.

So true, nobody fears Jesus. In fact, they use his name to facilitate more murder and theft. People let down their guard when they hear that name, allowing pastors to even sleep with women and collect money from parishioners.
Swearing to a shrine may engender more honesty.

Aarenasbaba:
It would have been better if you can recite Quran 1:verse6 to 7, 100times before u sleep 2nyt

Did you read the long post that I wrote earlier? I don't believe Mohammed's testimony. Reading the Quran is like reading the Bible, there's no point to it.

You need to show me why Mohammed was telling the truth. Did Allah reveal anything to him in preparation for skeptics?

If I come and claim to be Allah tommorow, you won't believe me. But what if I bring back your whole family from 200 years ago? Or make the whole Middle East disappear from the map? Or open the whole heavens by removing the clouds?

You will start to take me seriously, even if I'm not your Allah, you will know that I have the recommended powers.
Mohammed was a con man. He didn't speak to anyone, what he did was write that book himself. Any time someone keeps reminding you of his illiteracy, and bringing it up in conversations, you should be wary of his intentions. Maybe he intends to write a book and then say god told him bla bla bla.
Mohammed didn't believe in any god, he was a politician and a con man.

Aarenasbaba:
The more u see, the less you know

So cover your own eyes. I like to see the big picture before diving in with my head like you.

This saga will not end peacefully. The old man is setting up this boy for decapitation later.

borngeologist:
but is it going to new york knicks that would guarantee him titles

Porzingis is really good. Plus an ageing Melo probably puts him in the Eastern Conference Finals. But yeah, they're not beating the Cavs.

He has a better chance with Oladipo and Adams.

What is the rate of internet usage in that place? I smell a second coup in the making. Maybe they both will be ousted by the cousin this time.

The question lends zero support to the theist-atheist debate.
Set up a corollary and see for yourself. It should appear in a form like this:

Atheist cannot provide a biological basis for an idea therefore Jesus must have walked on water and Mohammed must have spoken with a pot of goat stew.

What is the point of the question?

SmooshCHN:
Bandwagon. just $150

Chump change. I won about $1500 on the series, so I'm good. Your boy Curry couldn't put up 20pts though, let alone 40. Jump shots get harder to make when the whole world is watching.

Mizzzbeee:
How old are you? Can you keep your unintelligent opinions to yourself

Your jump shooting team couldn't make a shot. Suck it. I lost $150 on LeBron getting 40+ pts, but that money pales in comparison to the joy of seeing the reaction from people like you.

Buhari doesn't know how to walk AND chew gum at the same time. Someone should teach him.

I would've killed him myself and then claim self defense.

Decale:
You didn't tell me you're the one that installed CCTV in Curry's room

You mad bro? Your jump shooting team couldn't make their shots.

Mizzzbeee:
this is a really disappointing and disgusting post!! Are you kidding me Some posts I have read on this issue is not only demeaning to say but total rubbish... WTH

Sex before big games ruins the mojo. Boxers know this, footballers know it, and now Steph does too.

alakara:
Moderator,pls remove this thread or send it to where is suppose to be because of peace.
Thanks
Cc OAM4J

Nobody is fighting war, my brother.

Follow the money trail. Afterall, the whole point is selling books.

So what happens if the rain falls and washes the powder away?