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youngibeh:
Seriously, am not good at insulting people no matter what happen. Whatever your opinion is on this thread is yours. like i said earlier,[size=15pt] i will gain nothing by posting what am not sure of. [/size]but please stop insulting me and the pastor because whatsoever you sow you shall reap that includes me.

These are the moments when I wish that Yahweh was real. He would r) ape you himself.

[size=18pt]You are telling LIES!!!!!!!!![/size]

youngibeh:
MY BROTHER PLEASE DO NOT TAKE ME FOR A FOOL. AM A GUY WITH GOOD JOB AND ONLY TRY TO SHOW YOU GUYS WHAT I SAW MY SELF. YOU MUST NOT BELIEVE ME BUT IF AM WRONG I BELIEVE GOD SHOULD DO WHATEVER HE DEEM FIT TO ME.

THANK YOU

Your God doesn't exist. Anyone gifted with up to three neurons can tell that you are lying. Why is he not striking you? I tell you why. You don't think that you're doing any wrong, you're telling lies to win souls. It's the souls that count, not the lie that bring them.

Esdb3:
In Dan Brown novels? Damn this one is plain ignorant. [size=15pt]So how do you explain the many random people making signs with their fingers? [/size]

Ask them to spell ILLUMINATI that way you can find out if they even know how READ.

Esdb3:
So you are a God now? Buhahaha . So your dad is satan or who is satan?

Satan is YOUR God. You should know his identity well.

chukwubuzor123:
But wait oo, we're you guys in any way doubting the existance of God? Hope not, because if you are, then that means you are doubting his sighns and wonders cause that is obvious in human point of view.

Where do you guys come from? Ha-ha-ha. I believe in God. Myself. So it's you who need a flashlight to find your own. Yahweh.

winner01:
Oh my.., You are one sad demented kid, u must look like your faeces.
To give a simple proof that you exist, you become brain-blank. you and your friends.
You should cry everyday till you find proof of your existence.
You are an anti-theist not an atheist, your types abound more in foolishness.
To further confirm this, you use the word "convert", making atheism or anti theism seem a belief itself. Y'all are just pawns.
If ill be responsible for anything, it'll be critical thoughts and deep search, not from demonic books or scientists, but from your heart.

You are no relevant than an ant in a self existent universe. go figure, and put your brains at work this time.

How am I an anti theist if I believe in the one true God, MYSELF? I will raise myself up when I die, even though you'll probably be somewhere stuck in a dream. As usual.

Keep walking around thinking that everyone here on NAIRALAND is in YOUR dream. Ha-ha-ha

winner01:
Yeah, prove your existence, and thats not silly, you are.
If you cant prove your existence, how then can you even prove anything. The Holy Bible calls you foolish and that is exactly what y'all are displaying here. A Simple task such as this brings confusion into a fools system.


Praise to the God of the mind, the author and finisher of intuitions, science and technology..He gave us brains..Job35:11

Shut up! Prove to me that you don't worship a w)hore? Better yet, prove to me that your God is not the feces I left in the toilet earlier. Do you have the proof that you don't offer prayers to my feces?

This is beyond proving anything, you've turned into a troll. You want me to prove that I'm not dreaming. I've already proven to you that I am a human being or an A.I but in your solipsist head, only nonsense matters.
Imagine what your brothers must be going through, seeing you breakdance here. You alone will be responsible for some converts to atheism with your "prove to me that you are not dreaming" BS.

The man gave you the power to move mountains with your mouth, I don't see any mountains moving, and yet you bring your shameless behind here to ask me for proof that I'm not on Nairaland in a dream. Are you here in a dream?

Esdb3:
So if God is satan. Who is satan.

Damn! Wisdom is not knowledge, knowledge is not intelligence. Don't quantify your brilliance by the number of dumb ass book authors or english words you've read or know! You are just plain stupid and a sign of success for the provident eye!

I said YOUR God is Satan. I never said God is Satan. I serve the true God, myself. Your own God is Satan. Is that clear enough?

David0:
Well, I know the God whom I serve, I may not be perfect, but I know He's with me always. I am a living witness...U shud ask for God's grace to witness His existence.

Cos questioning His existence, only means one thing...Ur lost n need to be saved.

I should talk to the God that is within you? If that's not arrogance, I don't know what is. Talk to me, I am God himself. Like I said, your God is Satan. Repent and follow the true God of hosts, ME.

Esdb3:
You live your life on other people's opinions, you simply cannot think for yourself!

You live a drama everyday while people in high places design scripts for your type and you act it like dumb shits.

You claim intellectuals, thinkers but you don't even believe a common 'illuminati' exists. Everything is logical to you.

See if you can't text with sense let the seemingly reasonable folk I quoted answer my damn Questions!

The Illuminati exist in Dan Brown novels. In real life, we have ordinary greedy humans, some more wealthy than others, but equally selfish.

Esdb3:
Denying God is denying spirituality. So I ask again does magic happen?

Ask David Blaine and David Copperfield.

David0:
Well my question is dis?

Why is it so common with Atheist to prove God doesn't exist, but u hardly hear dem try to prove Satan doesn't exist.

Well I believe Atheist are satanic representative...who's main ideology is that God doesn't exist but somehow feel comfortable with Satan's existence.

Your God is Satan.

David0:
Well my question is dis?

Why is it so common with Atheist to prove God doesn't exist, but u hardly hear dem try to prove Satan doesn't exist.

Well I believe Atheist are satanic representative...who's main ideology is that God doesn't exist but somehow feel comfortable with Satan's existence.

Your God is Satan. That's why you fear him and respect him.

FOLYKAZE:
This fight over God existence by atheists and religious folk will never end.

I am God. I exist. . . . Problem for the atheists and religious ones

I am God too. Atheists are talking about a particular type of God, the ones that can empower human beings to move mountains using their tongue, and hear the testimony of poisoned food. That's right, Mohammed heard his food talk, I kid you not.

starlingslimnet:
Even no scientists can explain why time don't wait for people....even they can't tell you the storehouse of snow.If they can't explain a little thing as this then they are nincompoops.

Only a fool says there is no God.

Would you believe the modern scientist who says he doesn't know, or listen to the caveman who told other cave people that he received the ALL the answers from a spirit person?

Only a fool would believe a dead caveman for no reason.

Many presidents are atheists, especially those who attended Ivy League schools. They teach nothing but reason over there.

winner01:
Once again, you and your friends are just a bunch of failures....You have all failed just a simple test of your existence...you say my test is stup1d because i make you look stup1d, not because it is illogical.

you all sound empty by continuing to give communication or demonstration proof. Does your brain not tell you that all those actions and more are done in dreams and illusions...

You and all the self acclaimed "atheists" on this thread should hide when formidable atheists are called upon for discussion...
To think that no single one could provide a bright proof of his existence, its a slap on qualitative reasoning..
Even my atheists colleagues will suggest that y'all keep quiet forever on the topic of the universe.

To further show dumb you are, some of you went ahead to ask for my faith before we can logically discuss. knowing fully well that faith "clouds" mental reasoning as you popularly say.

Go and consult you professors in cosmology and phylosophy on human existence, only then can you earn the right to discuss the Holy book with me.

Listen man, your argument essentially boils down to "show me that you're not dreaming," which is essentially the silliest thing I've ever read on here. I take it that you're either trolling or have officially conceded that you have no case.

winner01:
Maybe you are just slow, point out where i said my life is a dream or quit......I only asked why your life is not an illusion or a dream...and as smart as you and your friends are, you have no reasonable proof of your existence....you should all cover your faces in shame...

I have proven my existence with my written comments. I dream when I'm asleep, so maybe that's why my life is not a dream or illusion.
You insist on playing stupid, asking stupid questions, and drawing stupid conclusions. We know what the holy books say about proof, we know how your immature and imaginary God proved himself in the story book to humans. Is the bible real or is it a book of dreams?

winner01:
None of you have earned the right to discuss that post with me, i posted it because the other guy sounded objective and admitted to the fact that his life might be an illusion.........
If asking you to prove your existence aint logical, then i dont know what is...
with all the proof there seemingly is, you still failed to make any sense..

You are fake again, i hope when you will wake up from your sleep, there will still be time.

Mr dreamer. I'm not the one asleep. You are, admittedly
You told me that you're asleep and this shyt ain't real. That's why you won't honor my comments as proof of my existence. You are in a deep sleep.

Your God though is impotent in both sleep and wakefulness. I haven't spoken to him yet. Did you pass my message across?

winner01:
" Name your God and lets go from there"..... this is very disgraceful man.
i have to name my God before we can reason critically....Y'all are confused because i ddnt give you the argument you were expecting...Im not stup1d, you are only confused..

Hidden within the epistle you posted earlier was an unfortunate claim that only a being can be called God, not a super universe. That since God must be a humanoid being, Ocam's razor suggests that we assume the creation stories. That's why you must then describe the God being thingy who you think created the universe. Especially if you're communicating with it in illusions and dreams as you are.

You abandoned your logical argument the minute you became unwilling to acknowledge my existence as a human being or some computer program. Instead you told me that you are in a dream.

winner01:
naah, dont be lazy..You accepted my opinion and i went further to worsen your accident by asking you to prove it.......
If i sound solipsist, why do you care why not just cut the crap and give me your logical reasons...
this is it!!!, your hearts have been hardened in your bbelie.
have a nice life

Don't be confused. I never told you that I was dreaming. Unlike yourself, I don't drink alcohol with any serious frequency.

You're the one moving the goalposts back and forth. You don't have a clue about the atheist argument. All you're doing here is making long what should be a very short discussion.

Name your God and let's go from there. God is a loose and ambiguous description of anything. Quit pretending that you are in a dream. The bible, koran, and talmud didn't say that we are dreaming.

FOLYKAZE:
Maybe he needs to define his position on what he mean by God. This would clarify misconceptions and put an end to this baseless argument

Tell him again, my brother. The scientists are clearly saying that something produced the universe. But because the thing is not a jealous humanoid person like his own personal God, he doesn't think it can be called God too.

menesheh:
The write-up is too long. I prefer consice comments.

He's trying to conceal his regurgitated and beaten down argument that God created the universe. They always repeat the same argument over and over and over instead of going through the older threads and beginning from there. See nonsense like this:

The naturalistic explanation requires the presence of a complicated, unproved super universe that has the capacity to randomly spew out an infinite number of universes with different laws of physics.
How does this hypothetical super universe know how to do this

The man doesn't understand the argument against his position, that's the only reason why he would ask such a question? Folykaze, can you please tell this guy that a powerful, super universe can also be called God? He's bringing a preconceived notion of the word to the table and trying to hide behind that meaning to infer his white humanoid God.

winner01:
Even though you have accepted the fact that your life is an illusion, You still havent proven to me the fact that your life is an illusion.

Now you're the one making the assumptions. Dreams occur to most humans naturally during the period known as REM sleep. I promised to interview the God there if you can be so kind as to set up an interview. The God is unwilling to show up here on the message board, or in person.

You are espousing solipsism, an idea which runs contrary to what is found in the Abrahamic religions. Allah and Yahweh were public demonstrators, and there was no indication that anyone was sleeping or in a dream.

winner01:
Stop putting your words in my mouth mr weah96, you are saying things i never said....If you accept a deliberate illusion or dream, then you still have to prove it to me...

OK, I will. Now can you go to the dream or the illusion where you talk to this God and tell him to come to my own dream or illusion? Leave the the proof business to me.

Tell him to forget real life, ignore the cancer wards with the small children, I'm taking dreams and illusions at this point.

winner01:
Not so fast mister...Communication is a very shallow proof to provide of your existence...Lets think out of the box here......Dont you communicate with other humans in dreams and illusions......Whatever you think you can do as a proof can also be done in an illusion...

When you give me a substantial proof, then you will see my standpoint on the existence of the Creator

LOL, are you a solipsist? Only a solipsist will say that he's dreaming here. Ha-ha-ha. This is not a dream, BTW. I carry a totem with me, like DiCaprio in the movie Inception. If you're an honest person, you would say the truth. But you also claim to talk to God, so I don't expect you to come close to anything called truth.

BTW, I will accept a deliberate illusion or a good dream at this point. How come the God cannot come in an illusion or dream? Even that is beyond him too?

winner01:
"Civilized societies" are grossly unfair and tyrannical to enforce primitive laws down the throats of the populace....A general concensus should be reached, only then can we have fairness and equity in a "civilized society" .

In primitive laws, women were beaten with mop handles. On the contrary, our present laws are a more refined and humane version of the primitive laws of which you speak. For example, many primitive societies degraded the woman to little more than an item which produces children and pleasure. Even though they knew about the Golden Rule, they would have expected the same treatment in return. A young man who beat his wife daily, expected his sister to be treated the same. His morality was intact.

Today the practice is generally frowned upon in secular societies. We somehow manage to learn, through the children who grow up, that some shyt is flat out wrong. Our parents are merely old children, as we will be soon. It is up to the newer children to provide the improvement.

Check out Terence McKenna's Novelty Theory if you want to learn about the nature of increasing complexity.
Humans will eventually be unable to tell a lie to another human. Fairness will come at an unknown cost.


https://sites.google.com/site/patrickmhmbs/home/mckenna

winner01:
proof of your existence.

You don't know me. You only know that I must be a human being or a very intelligent A.I. system. Those are your choices. In that case, anything I say to you on this forum and through the medium of cyberspace is sufficient proof that you're communicating with a human or AI who uses the moniker WEAH96.

Ask me to do something an ordinary human will do. For example, create another username of your choosing and show up in this thread with it. We will keep the mods aware since sockpuppetry is against the rules.

Now, if you still insist that the proof is insufficient, then I must make you aware that we could arrange a similar experiment for whichever personal God you follow. I'm willing to accept the insufficient evidence, provided the God is talking or typing here.

winner01:
Mr man give me concrete evidence of the existence of the golden rule before the Bible...And dont come at me with some ancient stone age books...

You are asking and answering your own questions, how absurd.....I never said morality had a divine origin, you did......Im arguing that logically, there is no such thing as morality.

Quit trying to slot in religion.

Stone books that predate the bible aren't allowed? Do you want me to summon dead witnesses from antiquity? I'm afraid that the deed is beyond my present abilities.

I apologize for making unnecessary assumptions. I was under the impression that you came from the school of thought which presupposes a divine origin of morality. My bad.

You're quite correct with your views on morality though. However, that's the reason why civilized societies have laws which are all based on a positive interpretation of the Golden Rule.

winner01:
Its fruitless argueing with you...Why have you forcibly bring an "ancient Bible" into a logical arguement. You started off on this thread with logic, why then do you want to forcibly introduce the Holy Bible into this debate.
I guess its because you were expecting me to use that tactic in this debate, but you are dissapointed because i didnt. Now you want to subtly coerce me into using that same tactic.
Sorry to burst your bubbles sir, ill still maintain my ground.

Your ancient golden rule does not appeal to me. Im apprehensive out things outside the Truth even if they sound similar...

The ancient Egyptians didn't call their moral guideline Golden Rule. The term was coined by Christians in reference to the Sermon on the Mount.

My question is, since morality had a divine origin, according to you, where did the ancient Egyptians get their "do unto others, as you would have them do unto you" from? They wrote down that code 2000 years before Jesus arrived with his own.

jayriginal:
Oh it could very well be true. I've been in that situation before. I'll list all my close shaves later

In this particular instance, I was face down with the threat of a bullet in the head if I moved. Some guy from Christ Embassy was cabashing gently and unceasingly gradually increasing his intensity until he screamed and rushed out of the building in pursuit of the thieves.

The scenario is possible, what makes me doubt the story is the manner in which it was delivered. Very few words described the dead friend, in fact, the story teller simply said that the person fell. Mind you that this happened some time ago and the fallen would have been out of the hospital had he stayed alive.

There is a certain way human beings will tell that kind of story if it really happened. Certain details will be more elaborate than others. I didn't see it here.

winner01:
Im getting tired of your arguements because its like you are trying to lead me in your circles. [size=16pt]How could you ask me where the golden rule comes from when i dont even believe in such nonsense...[/size]

Does it not even sound to you like some ancient doctrine. Oh How much you have held on to your opinion that it has become a belief.
Congratulations, you are now a "believer".

Wait, are you not a follower of the biblical Jesus? He also copied the Golden Rule in his sermon on the mountain. Matthew 7:12, Luke 6:31. It can also be found in Lev. Chapter 19 verses 18 and 34.

I'm sorry if you don't believe in it. This Christianity business must be a new thing for you.