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gatiano:
Most of what he said was the history that was pass down to him by his Elders, We have our own in our various tribes too, we just choose to disrespect and disregard them, when actually they were the main deal all along.

Should we rather believe that this below is the truth? and why should we? or maybe we shouldn't worry about what is happening outside there.

Believe what you want. I prefer to believe the truth. There's nothing wrong with speaking the thruth.

gatiano:
Most of what he said was the history that was pass down to him by his Elders, We have our own in our various tribes too, we just choose to disrespect and disregard them, when actually they were the main deal all along.

Should we rather believe that this below is the truth? and why should we? or maybe we shouldn't worry about what is happening outside there.

Believe what you want. I prefer to believe the truth. There's nothing wrong with speaking the truth.

Jesus was altruistic. Mohammed was a realist.

gatiano:
You are very far behind, The blackman has known the measurement of the universe since the very beginning, he knows the measurement of everything on the earth, the sea size, fresh water size, the mountian size, the desert size and areas of the waters and compared to the land. We as we are now have known this since 1930s when the white man just discovered the pluto was there.
I bet you agree with the measurement between the sun and the earth at 93,000,000miles, just because the whiteman said so? and you agreed with the earth diameter being 7,926miles.

Do you mean to say that the author was under the influence of substances? i hope not, and if you do, you have a right to your imagination, it is allowed to question.
It is the non-blacks that need the influence of substances to connect to the source, simply because they can't without it. that is why they always have rum, vodka, whisky etc to get in connection with themselves. There are some extremely dead black people who can't, their pineal gland has been calcified/closed entirely.

what is needed for the process will be discussed in level 2. it is all about how one eats and what and when and how frequent one eats. it also depends on one's thought.

Say the truth, these men are herbalists. The rituals involve ingesting or inhaling a mixture of botanical potions, be it tea or snuff. Maybe they're smoking it or drinking the tea. How can there be one million earths if you haven't left this one to find out? Here is a direct copy and paste from http://www.angelfire.com/planet/blackrootswisdom/BookPages1.html

Our tribe of Batswana is divided into many smaller clans. I'm from the clan called Bakhatla.
10. I'll briefly outline our initiation system for those who are new to such information. There are three types of initiatory training among my people, as is the case among many Afrikan tribes. The first is 'general rites' as you put it, which youths undergo at about puberty.
11. After that, a handful are selected to be trained as Dingaka (Ngaka - singular; Dingaka - plural). The term, Sangoma, belongs to the Zulu tribe, and is not used among us, but it means the same thing, as you probably know.
12. A second group, much smaller, is then selected at a later stage to be trained as griots. I am a griot - a tribal historian, and not a Ngaka. There are two types of griots. The first is called Moseki, or a 'memorizing' griot, for lack of a better word. Such initiates are trained usually from childhood in certain rites that vastly improve their powers of memory to exceed that of ordinary people. Then they are taught oral history, and memorize it word for word, so they can transmit it to following generations exactly as they received it. The second type of griot is called Motshidi. This word is difficult to translate. But it effectively means 'one who lives with the ancestors'. I am a Motshidi.
13. The central tenet of Afrikan initiation rites is that the lives of our ancestors, the Gods, are still as vibrant today as they were in their time. With this tenet as the foundation, we are trained to access that vibrancy, and transport our minds or spirit to their time.
14. We are guided to travel in spirit until we reach what we call Mojako (the Gate) and receive the blessings of the Gatekeeper. Then we are assigned a Custodian, through whose eyes and mind we see the past. [size=15pt]We are thus enabled to research and investigate the lives of our ancestors exactly as if they were living right now. The time we live in in that state we call Ditoro or 'Dreamtime'. It's not related to outside time. In just 3 nights we are able to live a thousand years or more in Ditoro. The experience of Ditoro has a vividness that far exceeds that of modern ordinary experiences.[/size] I was taught that our ancestors lived in that type of vivid consciousness as their normal everyday experience prior to 6,000 years ago. Our present minds have been severely 'slowed down', so to speak, due to the deterioration of our bodies, which are inferior to what our ancestors had then.

Please don't try to insult my intelligence. He's describing an experience with entheogens. Apparently, all black people used to operate with that level of heightened consciousness, why exactly, I don't know.

The expressions on their faces say it all. The woman is running through more lies in her head to tell that poor man.

The man is thinking about all the possibilities and scenarios under which the woman could have banged a white man. That is his first mistake, underestimating the genius of the female.

torchwave:
Guess again. No one has seen fairies because they are pure work of someone's imagination.

However, it is an undeniable fact that hell exists through the countless testimonies and experiences of living and dead witnesses.

Yeah, even if you doubted ten different people who said the same thing, can you doubt ten thousand strangers who have corroborated the same testimonies?

Hell is no myth like Fairytopia which has no single living or dead witness of its existence. Think about that.

The saying is true that if they don't believe the prophets, they will not believe even if one rose from the dead.

Do you know what it means to be a "witness," or are you just using the term liberally?

Who is this hell witness? Is it TB Joshua or the once comatose boy who has since withdrawn his fraudulent testimony?

torchwave:
Why not go ahead and do so? Give the characters substance and reality that goes beyond the pages of the book like the Bible so that millions of people all over the world and in every century would testify even with their lives to witnessing them as not just 'characters' but living reality they have heard, spoken to and seen just like millions have heard, spoken to and seen God the Father, Jesus Christ, angels, demons, Satan - 'characters' in the Bible... If you can do that...then you're entitled to whatever you call yourself.

The Bible benefits from being an unusually old book. My own story won't be able to generate the same appeal in that regard.

It's like watching the first movie ever made. That movie is probably a worse film than the WORST Nollywood picture, but it has historical value.

Other than that, the bible is just a collection of mythological stories, not unlike the stories of Mount Olympus.

If the man is the father of that baby, then Michael Jackson was also the real father of his children.

torchwave:
It makes no difference if He came in a white or black skin. He deserves my love and worship not only for what He did for me which nobody could do but also for the fact that He is my Creator, the one true God.[/i]

Don't you read your Bible. The chosen people are white people. The messiah HAD to be white. There was ZERO chance of him being black. So I disagree, not only did it make a difference, the anonymous authors of the bible went out of their way to ensure that you wouldn't doubt the color of his skin.

Baddestguyp:
and what did Clichy do that ref gave him 2 yellows, or did d ref just call him and gave him red for nothing

Clichy tried to pull his leg back so that he wouldn't wound the diver-in-chief. It was too late. The wind had already touched the man. Barcelona will use an extra player in 3 of their next 4 UCL games.

Sconty09:
It's possible though i'm not unaware of dubious nigerians. I lived in UAE with my wife and you need to see my Abdullah,my son so light skinned for first 6 months but with time getting brown like us.

Light skin is a different matter. This pikin is carrying the hair texture too.

I would love to see these three on an episode of the Maury Show. Btw, if you're related to that guy, please locate him and slap him very well. Where are the results of the DNA test? The thing should be in the first paragraph. I see people like him ALL THE TIME on the Maury Show.

Baddestguyp:
kindly tell us the scoreline when city got a red

City were a goal down and applying major pressure on that defense. That's when the ref decided to take away their scoring chances by allowing Barcelona to use an extra player on the pitch.

seyema:
I can't rem the last time barca win any tough match in champions league and there opponent didn't collect red card

Never. 11 vs. 10 all the time. Otherwise, it's 7-0 from teams like Bayern that fight fire with fire. Barca apply two waves of strong pressure, maybe 3, after that it's a one on one with their goalie. On most occasions, they win back the ball with ease or cause you to make silly decisions. But teams that can string 4 quick passes together, like their own tiki taka, can put them into big trouble.

gatiano:
How do you mean? When some black people are initiated into the freemasons' lodges, are they not proud of it? The whiteman's kind of initiation is prestigious right? while this one is what? archaic?
Initiation is not what you think. example of initiation is moving up from one level to the next like, from primary 1 to primary 2. A student went through the intiation process of pry 1 and proceeded to the next level into another initiation process of primary 2.

And as for the details, common, it is not yet the minute.
What is your take on the size of the solar system? considering the fact that the distance between the sun and pluto is 4,600,000,000miles

I have no idea what the size of the galaxy is and I doubt that anyone really does, and it would be almost impossible to put a precise number of miles to something like that. That's why I'm holding out on that 7900 million miles figure only because it looks arbitrary and REALLY, REALLY convenient.
I don't care about the diction. I care about the substance of the ritual. From his description of the experience, it sounds like they are drinking, or eating, an entheogen. I am a fan of entheogens and that is the source of my interest.

myproperty:
That is my choice and its cool. What about yours looking for an imaginary ladder to come out of obscurity or vacuum.

Thanks and good day

I'm not sure if you notice, but I detest imaginary objects. But I did enjoy the movie Avatar, the graphics were amazing .

myproperty:
Please tell us its original meaning, if the original meaning is different from the original meaning of the following words: Olodumare/Olorun in Yoruba, Abasi in Ibibio, katonda in buganda tribe of east Africa,god in english etc.

Almost every tribe in the world have a name for their supreme deity and all those tribe after recognizing the true God transfers that name they use for their supreme deity( which on most occasion refer to the god of creation or god of the sky) to the Supreme God and then demote or ignore the then supreme deity. The supreme deity is regarded as having supernatural powers or every other power is subject to it. That is why that name is transferred to the only supreme being YHWH

In English it did not transfer the name rather it differentiated the true God from the lesser god by using a capital G to differentiate it.


Why then did the Qu'ran used the arabic word Ibrahim for Abraham, a peron that existed thousand of years before Islam. The word God is an English word for YHWH same as Abasi, Olorun/Oldumare and Allah. These are names of God in different languages. God is in english, Olorun is yoruba, Abasi is Efik/Ibibio, Chukwu is Ibo.

Maybe you expect the English to abandon the use of their native name for hebrew in English Bible, why use Olorun/Olodumare in Yoruba Bible

What arrogance, that the word God is now the personal name of the deity you just happen to ALREADY serve by coincidence. Why is your God supreme, because his name has four consonants, YHWH? I agree it's cool, but that's it. He has as much power as a nylon bag floating in the wind.

Tell me more about that initiation brew? Is it similar to Iboga or Ayahuasca? Btw, the solar system isn't really 7900 million miles wide, is it? Where did they obtain that measurement, from the initiation drink?

The calendar used was called ink and parchment because it is a work of fiction. Chinua Achebe's Things Fall Apart uses real historical events like colonization to weave a story about fictional characters. The Bible is the same way. Fictional characters are intertwined with real historical events to lend an air of authenticity to the whole story.

JahzaraAde:

Firstly, (and forgive me, Cupid1, if this comes across a little offensive - that's really not my intention), if you (and all of us too) just read books, you would be in the best position to answer these questions yourself.

Even if we remove Christianity from your reasonings, the answers concerning a) the diversity of races, b) the oldest remains of Homo sapiens found and c) the translocation of the earliest people, all can be found within books.

Your best bet is to dedicate some of your own time to studying these questions (the Internet is brimming with interesting and conflicting theories). Through this, you can make your own informed conclusions on the origin of races and so on.

I would love to see a follow up post on YOUR OWN theory behind the existence of different races - I think it will generate a more informed discussion/debate.

But the Bible is infallible and the words are inerrant. There is no conversation to be had without first addressing that claim.

I would have loved to interview that Jesus over a gallon of palm wine. He probably would have refused the drink, guaranteeing more wine for me. Mohammed, what can I say about that guy. He had some terrific leadership skills. People pay close attention after you chop off the heads of two or three of their mates.

torchwave:
Op, give your life to Christ. The Devil has been a deceiver since the very beginning. He has nothing to offer you but lies, lies and more lies so as to lead you to your untimely and eternal death. Whatever he gives you is a 'Greek gift' in order to lure you to your demise. Turn from following Satan in whom is nothing good and find life and peace in the Lamb of God, Jesus Christ.

The same Christ who came down to earth disguised as a white male. Something is wrong with you. I rather die, than subliminally worship a white male figure. Tufia!

Btw, is the devil a black male from Lagos because I wouldn't be surprised. Pale people are capable of making up stories like that and tricking you into holding the thing as a fact in your head.

davidylan:
Somebody already did... you simply doubled down on your ignorant opinion rather than correcting yourself.

Somebody did? Where? In Asia Minor, Abuja, or here on NL? I don't blame you, you're a shameless person. Show me where Einstein believed in personal Gods and you come here to reference anonymous contributors. I'm now supposed to go canvassing NL for a poster called "Someone" because you lack the stones to man up and make your own contribution.

eagerald:
Dude, I can also shoot a movie and direct it how I like. By the way, God honoured Hannah's request for a child, because she said she will give it to the temple and we know the great works Samuel did. What am trying to say is this, if God was to do anything, He checks it with His agenda. If it is out of His agenda, call on His name till everlasting, He won't give a listening ears.

LOL, I can also type up a short story and make the characters do and say what I want. You read a story about fictional characters called Hannah and Samuel and decide that the story applies to real life. The Netflix movie I watched is closer to reality than that mendacious bible script.

The movie doesn't show the God character, instead it shows some guy praying to Jesus for help, right before the Iceman blows his brains out. In your own script, the character called God defies the laws of nature, and talks to human being. The authors didn't address the sound of the voice or the accent of the voice. A horrible story with irreparable gaps.

davidylan:
You are clearly out of your league and just stumbling around in blind ignorance. If you dont know just say so.

My brother, Einstein didn't believe in personal Gods. Thomas Paine didn't believe in personal Gods. Feel free to correct me.

Is shouting the name supposed to confer some kind of authority? I recently watched a movie on Netflix called the Iceman and the assassin in the movie became offended when one of his victims began praying to God for help. The assassin, who is the Iceman, gave the man 5 mins to pray and ask Jesus to save him certain death. The prayer didn't work. He then shot the man in the head.

Try shouting out the name of some of your ancestors next time, and try to imagine their faces instead of the white man's face. That is the source of your problem.

SNCOQ3:
Albert Eistein started out an atheist but real science led him to believe in the existence of God. Period.

But did he believe in personal Gods? I don't think so. Period. Thomas Paine believed in God too. And he also wrote the atheist manifesto, called the Age of Reason.

davidylan:
If you dont know how it relates then maybe you should go and find out and come back? I mean the mind boggling idea that you would pretend that atheists are not the biggest champions of the big bang theory is quite laughable. Should we start with Stephen Hawking? lol the sheer ignorance.

Well, I don't believe in the Big Bang, and I don't believe in personal Gods. My Eritrean neighbor is an atheist and I doubt he knows what the big bang is. I'll make sure to ask him.

Wearing a baseball hat doesn't make someone a baseball player. You should address your Big Bang questions to those who have studied it and care about offering opinions on it. That most of those people are atheists doesn't mean that it is a prerequisite for atheism.

davidylan:
If you dont know how the universe began then on what grounds are you ridiculing the theory of others?

The word "theory" has different connotations in the English language. Your kind of theory is the equivalent of a hypothesis in science, all your work is still ahead of you. Or a hunch. For example, making the statement that Dangote is currently wearing a pair of Air Max Jordans at this very moment is not a theory, unless you have some means of demonstrating how you acquired the information.

davidylan:
the "reality" of what? the big_bang theory?

How is the big bang even related to atheism? What are you talking about?

I became an atheist after reading that Mary and Joseph story where the girl claimed that the wind impregnated her. I had read it many, many, times before but this one time, I couldn't restrain my explosive laughter. The rest of the puzzle quickly fell into place after that.

davidylan:
so basically you dumped one "myth" for another myth? Good to know.

Yes, I decided to follow the myth called "common sense." It's only a myth because there is nothing "common" about it. Obviously.