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Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Kalanithi: Why I Gave Up On Atheism by winner01(op): 10:20am On Jun 25, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
@ realmindz - you have officially won the award of an eristic with the worst arguments after antiparticle and thehomer cool . Dalaman and his threadbare arguments - he'll soon beat realmindz to this .
realmindz replies are just offtrack, devoid of common sense and repititive.
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Kalanithi: Why I Gave Up On Atheism by winner01(op): 10:15am On Jun 25, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
I have been following his posts and they are no more 'sick' than yours. Domino Reverad has certainly transformed his life and turned his fortunes around. He gets regular 'revelations' which he posts on this forum. How dare you refer to his ideas as sick? Do you honestly think that your beliefs are less absurd than his? I really would love an answer to this.
This is actually proof that there is something about christianity that atheism seeks to suppress.

You have been following his posts but have never spoken against it. Same with ifeness who believes in the annunaki, he identifies as an atheist and no atheist has ever questioned him or any other sick ideas.

The reason is simple:You do not waste your time with a lie..

If domino whoever has turned his life around, i smile and pass whenever i see his comments. He's been posting such on nairaland for a while and i've also been here long enough to notice it. "But i've never spoken about it because i simply do not believe. The belief is just not there. Same goes with the annunaki.
I would never call his ideas or any other sick if he didn't quote me. I'll probably smile and pass like always. That is the definition of unbelief.
The difference between me and you is that I do not believe in his deity. You on the other hand claim not to believe in God and you spend your life speaking about Him. This is simply my point.
Nothing in this world will make me ever spend my life talking about domino whoeever the way you talk about God.

I'm at loss on why most atheists around the world are inclined to fight christianity. Worse is, even muslims turned atheists too. So what then is it about christianity? undecided That singular reason keeps me eager.

“A thousand times over, the death knell of the Bible has been sounded, the funeral procession formed, the inscription cut on the tombstone, and committal read. But somehow the corpse never stays put.”
“No other book has been so chopped, knifed, sifted, scrutinized, and vilified. What book on philosophy or religion or psychology or belles lettres of classical or modern times has been subject to such a mass attack as the Bible? With such venom and skepticism? With such thoroughness and erudition? Upon every chapter, line and tenet?”
- Bernard Ramm.

Do not share your unbelief with me and then falsely claim that i throw my belief in your face.
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Kalanithi: Why I Gave Up On Atheism by winner01(op): 9:56am On Jun 25, 2016
realmindz:
yes only irrational ones I insist. For what reason will u think everything u have been told from childhood is the only true and perfect account out of thousand others.


The only reason u as a christian can ever convert someone to ur religion is when the person starts thinking rationally that he may not be 100% right afterall and decides to give a chance. Or do u think it is everybody that Jesus will appear to like paul?


Now my friend, can u do the same and be rational and reason that u may not be 100% right? But the answer is No, of course christianity is the best, perfect and only true way to paradise.


All other beliefs are jst fairytales and lies that never happened, yours is best
And you are so sure that I was a christian from birth? undecided
Your replies are so unintelligent that I find it needless to keep replying you.
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Kalanithi: Why I Gave Up On Atheism by winner01(op): 9:53am On Jun 25, 2016
realmindz:
now he is sick because he has a contrary belief to yours. I think u are also sick for believing God has a son. Tell me how God fathered Jesus? u must be rly sick.
you must be rly sick to tell me of a talking snake in a garden.
you must be sick to tell me adam and eve populated blacks, Arabs, whites.
you must be seriously sick to tell me a flood wiped out humanity.
you must ve lost ur senses completely to belief all the animals in the world today were rescued from a flood by a ship...
you must be sick to explain to me that rainbow formation was a convenant from God not to destroy the earth again with flood (in this 21st century) then tell me how eclipse wasn't a sign from the gods as once believed.
My friend, u are rly high to tell me some people wanted to build a tower to reach heaven and from there the explanations to various world languages and tribe. (what on earth will u teach ur children, ur type will continue to drag the world to stone age)
Those stone age minds have been far more productive than atheists.

I'm not sick cos I care less if you believe or not. You on the other hand desperately want me to share your stupidity.

He is sick cos he mentions me in his stupidity just like you. If you are observant, I dont mention your likes, I'm on this section to share my belief in God with believers. I care less about your unbelief.
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Kalanithi: Why I Gave Up On Atheism by winner01(op): 9:43am On Jun 25, 2016
realmindz:
winner01, don't start this pls....All religions have their various testimonies of how people got converted. People exit and people come in, they are looking for answers. only irrational ones stick to what they were indoctrinated to without ever thinking of being wrong, and thus the argument for their religion being the only true one among several thousand others becomes everlasting
Only irrational ones? undecided
Can you stop quoting me.
Christianity Etc › Re: One Very Pathetic Thing About Religion by winner01(m): 9:40am On Jun 25, 2016
realmindz:
ok thank you, but they are too indoctrinated to that belief to be advised, jst as u see me as being inspired by devil and being a fool when I advise u out of common reasoning of things u are indoctrinated into, same way dey will see me as an instrument of the devil if I try to advise them. so thanks anyway....



Moral of the story: Religion has made everyone to do what they were told regardless of what is right..
The belief that she must bow to her son-in-law?undecided. I just gave a verse to point out that stupidity but "common reasoning" has made you not to see that.
You are so desperate. Refrain from quoting me please.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Much Better Explanation Of Evolution by winner01(op):
Evolutionists will have us believe that a frog became a prince a fish became a man https://global-4-lvs-turing.opera-mini.net/hz05-02-03/4003/0/-1/global-4-lvs-turing.opera-mini.net/3990f12a6e57110e17bd008c7fc7fd460e749b45/evolution-theory.jpg



And for more than a century, we've been waiting to observe at least the most basic of this magical process. Observation is key in science.https://global-4-lvs-odra.opera-mini.net/hn25-06-08/35487/0/-1/creationsciencestudy.files./b7eec5bc349c5a953eb9fa485ffe7bf2e710f222/12191047_1002923776433513_5117178512493267030_n.jpg






I mean nothing turned to bacteria which turned to fish which eventually turned to man. (Of course after a very long time). https://global-4-lvs-odra.opera-mini.net/hn19-08-08/31755/1/-1/assets.answersingenesis.org/dd8c5c8014cd751644c9832487df6f5539b27641/theory-of-evolution.jpg




And this happened for millions of species that exist today? undecided https://global-4-lvs-turing.opera-mini.net/hz05-02-03/4003/0/-1/global-4-lvs-turing.opera-mini.net/3866a6c0b2df16dbc85afc753ac1d5ecb5f670c9/4900080-2989389213-tvo2k.jpg




Well, what can we say but the truth. This is another picture of a 320 million year old fossilhttps://global-4-lvs-odra.opera-mini.net/hn24-03-05/45865/0/-1/i.ytimg.com/ae8fa18afbb89a419a1150784032aa29c11caebc/maxresdefault.jpg



I can't but agree with Professor Louis Bounoure, past president of the Biological Society of Strassbourg, Director of the Strassbourg Zoological Museum, Director of Research at the French National Center of Scientific Research, who said;
"Evolution really is a fairytale for adults", a fairytale for people who cant bear the reality of the alternative.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Much Better Explanation Of Evolution by winner01(op): 1:04am On Jun 25, 2016
https://www.conservapedia.com/images/a/aa/Autumn.jpgAutumn foliage is one of the many of examples of beauty in God's creation.


One of the world's most famous scientists, probably the most famous living biologist, is Sir Francis Crick, the British co-discoverer of the structure of DNA, a Nobel Prize winner... Crick is also a fervent atheistic materialist, who propounds the particle story. In his autobiography, Crick says very candidly biologists must remind themselves daily that what they study was not created, it evolved; it was not designed, it evolved.

Why do they have to remind themselves of that? Because otherwise, the facts which are staring them in the face and trying to get their attention might break through.

Professor Phillip Johnson noted about this: "What we discovered when I developed a working group of scientists, philosophers, et al., in the United States was that living organisms look as if they were designed and they look that way because that is exactly what they are."

Christianity Etc › Re: A Much Better Explanation Of Evolution by winner01(op):
As alluded to earlier, today there are over one hundred million identified and cataloged fossils in the world's museums. If the evolutionary position was valid, then there should be "transitional forms" in the fossil record reflecting the intermediate life forms. Another term for these "transitional forms" is "missing links".

https://www.conservapedia.com/images/d/d2/Darwin.jpgCharles Darwin wrote: "When we descend to details, we cannot prove that a single species has changed; nor can we prove that the supposed changes are beneficial, which is the groundwork of the theory.”

Charles Darwin admitted that his theory required the existence of "transitional forms." Darwin wrote: "So that the number of intermediate and transitional links, between all living and extinct species, must have been inconceivably great. But assuredly, if this theory be true, such have lived upon the earth."

However, Darwin wrote: "Why then is not every geological formation and every strata full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely-graduated organic chain; and this perhaps, is the most obvious and serious objection which can be urged against my theory."

Darwin thought the lack of transitional links in his time was because "only a small portion of the surface of the earth has been geologically explored and no part with sufficient care...". As Charles Darwin grew older he became increasingly concerned about the lack of evidence for the theory of evolution in terms of the existence of transitional forms. Darwin wrote, “When we descend to details, we cannot prove that a single species has changed; nor can we prove that the supposed changes are beneficial, which is the groundwork of the theory.”




Scientist Dr. Michael Denton wrote regarding the fossil record:

"It is still, as it was in Darwin's day, overwhelmingly true that the first representatives of all the major classes of organisms known to biology are already highly characteristic of their class when they make their initial appearance in the fossil record. This phenomenon is particularly obvious in the case of the invertebrate fossil record. At its first appearance in the ancient Paleozoic seas, invertebrate life was already divided into practically all the major groups with which we are familiar today.


Distinguished anthropologist Sir Edmund R. Leach declared, "Missing links in the sequence of fossil evidence were a worry to Darwin. He felt sure they would eventually turn up, but they are still missing and seem likely to remain so."

David B. Kitts of the School of Geology and Geophysics at the University of Oklahoma wrote that "Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and paleontology does not provide them…".

David Raup, who was the curator of geology at the museum holding the world's largest fossil collection, the Field Museum of Natural History in Chicago, observed:

"Darwin was embarrassed by the fossil record because it didn't look the way he predicted it would .... Well, we are now about 140 years after Darwin, and knowledge of the fossil record has been greatly expanded. We now have a quarter of a million fossil species but the situation hasn't changed much. ... We have even fewer examples of evolutionary transition than we had in Darwin's time." - David M. Raup, "Conflicts Between Darwin and Paleontology," Field Museum of Natural History Bulletin 50.


One of the most famous proponents of the theory of evolution was the late Harvard paleontologist Stephen Jay Gould. But Gould admitted:

"The extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record persists as the trade secret of paleontology. The evolutionary trees that adorn our textbooks have data only at the tips and nodes of their branches; the rest is inference, however reasonable, not the evidence of fossils...We fancy ourselves as the only true students of life’s history, yet to preserve our favored account of evolution by natural selection we view our data as so bad that we never see the very process we profess to study




So what does the fossil record quote?

"...I still think that to the unprejudiced, the fossil record is in favour of special creation". - E.J.H. Corner (Professor of Botany, Cambridge University, England)

"Fossil evidence of human evolutionary history is fragmentary and open to various interpretations. Fossil evidence of chimpanzee evolution is absent altogether". Henry Gee, “Return to the Planet of the Apes,” Nature, Vol. 412, 12 July 2001, p. 131
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 11:45pm On Jun 24, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
Culture is the totality of a people's way of life . Someone's culture is his identity and when a particular group of people have displayed the natural inclination or tendency to kill , terrorize and show hate towards the religious over the century , then its rational to conclude that its their way of life - their culture . The thread perfectly points that out .

Like I mentioned earlier , the proliferation of the members of the atheist communities on social media that display these tendencies is alarming - this affirms the above paragraph .

Atheism is really dangerous - very deleterious to the mind - and the ominous signs are so visible now .
But seriously bro. Whats with christians being fed to lions.


Atheist Greyson Swan sympathizes feeding Christians to lions and telling Christians to jump off buildings. Another sick
example of the atheist hate on the internet

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 11:42pm On Jun 24, 2016
thehomer:
Like I noted earlier, you have a curious obsession with lists of names and what not so, what exactly is your argument? Is it that these people you listed did bad things therefore all atheists are bad? Or would do such things or what exactly?
No arguments my friend. Just points supported with facts.


Another hateful comment from an atheist. Jesse Jordan uses profanity and makes a claim without providing evidence.
G.K. Chesterton made this point: “Atheism is the most daring of all dogmas, for it is the assertion of a universal negative.”
http://biologos.org/questions/what-created-god

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 11:38pm On Jun 24, 2016
thehomer:
Do you have an actual argument other than hunting down long lists? If you do, please make the argument.
If you look well enough at the title of this thread, you'd notice that i'm less interested in arguing. I'm more intrested in proving a point.


An interesting article from our friends at Bethinking relates to this topic: http://www.bethinking.org/morality/can-moral-objectivism-do-without-god

Christianity Etc › Re: One Very Pathetic Thing About Religion by winner01(m): 10:58pm On Jun 24, 2016
realmindz:
Religion has successfully made some people lose their ability to reason, their humanity and cultural heritage.
Africans have traded their culture for the white man's religion.



I have a family friend, she should be in her late 50s now . Her daughter got married to a pastor, Man of God. Through that, this woman became a dedicated worshipper at her daughter's church. Now in this church, they call the pastor and his wife "daddy/mummy".





Guys, can u need to see how this woman kneels down for her son in law and call him daddy. Then the so called daddy will lay hands on her and be praying "God bless this sister . In this same Africa, yoruba people for that matter.




Then the daughter too will be claiming mummy....
for what !!!!! all in the name of being a man of God. They have lost their African values completely.




Shame on the black race, shame on slavery mentality, shame on those who abandoned their culture to grace the white man's own. shame on all of you, you are not worthy to be children of the soil.


kingebukasblog KingEbukaNaija Muafrika2 winner01 come and see what your church has turned people to
Instead of looking for the slightest chance you get to blame religion for man's stupidity and seek the support of fellow atheists, You should seek time to discuss with your family friends cos clearly they got serious issues. This attempt to blame christianity is dead on arrival and not worthy of attention.


"Likewise, you who are younger, be subject to the elders. Clothe yourselves, all of you, with humility toward one another, for “God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.”-1 Peter 5:5

These are the words of prophets who walked with Christ.

So i suggest you talk sense to your family friends instead of taking advantage of the situation to mock religion.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 7:13pm On Jun 24, 2016
thehomer:
grin grin
Atheist Joshua Frenkel uses ad hominems rather than rationally delineating his position with a believer. Related article: http://blogs.christianpost.com/confident-christian/profile-of-a-hatetheist-10298/

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 7:11pm On Jun 24, 2016
PastorAIO:
See desperation!! You mean when oyinbo came to your village to make your native tongue literate, you were not around? You should have paid heed then you'd know how to write in your language. Ṣebi na Question for yoruba language, not shebi. Yet if I call you semiliterate you'll start crying.

Meanwhile all of this is just a distraction to mask the points that I made which are biting you in your anus.
sebi was the only word worth noticing though. grin


Ryan Vanderwiel, an atheist, makes a joke about Good Friday. It is sad to see that the godless mock the beliefs of others, especially on the days of their pious observances. To
learn more about what Christ endured for us, please read this article written by expert Frank Turek of Cross Examined:
http://www.christianpost.com/news/what-was-the-crucifixion-like-118228/

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 7:06pm On Jun 24, 2016
PastorAIO:
Sebi we're discussing. You ought to tell me what the proper context is so we can know.

This is the context I understand. Please tell me where I'm wrong:

The bible says that those that don't listen to God's representatives should be put to death.

Someone responded that they take their judgements from the life of Christ instead, which suggests to me that they are dismissing the bible passage as inferior to life of Christ.

I then responded that the so called Life of Christ is itself derived from the bible.

You tell me that that is out of context. How? Please what is the proper context.

Or better still, tell me, where did you get all your information about the life of christ if not from the bible?
Prophets for generations, christ forever



Atheist Valerie Smith mocks Christians for being persecuted. "According to the International Society for Human Rights, a secular observatory based in Frankfurt, Germany, 80 per cent of all acts of religious discrimination in the world today are directed at Christians. Statistically speaking, that makes Christians by far the most persecuted religious body on the planet" (Ref: http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9041841/
the-war-on-christians/

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 6:58pm On Jun 24, 2016
PastorAIO:
I thought that the judgements were made from the bible. And even the stories of christ themselves are derived from the bible. Unless you have another source for Christ's life other than the bible.
Prophets are not my standard, christ is.


[size=13pt]Why do atheist want christians fed to lions? angry[/size]


Christoper Allen Salmons comments on a christian page, advocates feeding Christians to the lions, saying that "lions gotta eat too".
Since that's the case, why not offer himself and his family?

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 6:54pm On Jun 24, 2016
dalaman:
More from God in the bible. The main source of inspiration for all militant atheist who encourages the killing of brothers and kids.


Kill Your Brothers ,Your Kids And Neighbors


(Moses) stood at the entrance to the camp and shouted, “All of you who are on the LORD’s side, come over here and join me.” And all the Levites came. He told them, “This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: Strap on your swords! Go back and forth from one end of the camp to the other, killing even your brothers, friends, and neighbors.” The Levites obeyed Moses, and about three thousand people died that day. Then Moses told the Levites, “Today you have been ordained for the service of the LORD, for you obeyed him even though it meant killing your own sons and brothers. Because of this, he will now give you a great blessing.” (Exodus 32:26-29 )
Just one question for "Do youbthink God is the inspiration for militant atheists"
A one word answer will do.


Charles Erickson III on an atheistic facebook page titled "Sex-Addict Atheists", advocates the persecution of believers in theform of feeding them to lions, on the Lord's Day, Sunday, whenChristians traditionally attend Mass or a Service of Worship. In an atheistic rally in 2012, many militant atheists similarly held signs stating “so many Christians, so few lions”, encouraging the persecution of believers (See: http://www.faithstreet.com/
onfaith/2012/03/27/reason-rallys-unreasonable-beliefs/17123 ).

Both Erickson's comment, as well as the atheistic sign bearers, reference The Diocletianic Persecution in The Roman Empire, when Christians were fed to beasts (See: http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/rome_and_christianity.htm

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 1:22am On Jun 24, 2016
GeneralShepherd:
You really wear your tinfoil hat with passion, don't let knowledge take it away from you grin grin
angry angry angry

grin grin grin


Katie Gunn, a atheist, mocks a christian post explaining that a genetic code points to superintelligence, in the same way that a computer programme points to a programmer. This was not one of the christian page posts, but one shared from another page. As the post notes, this is the idea of the leader of the Human Genome Project, Francis Collins, and has caused famous atheists, such as Anthony Flew to accept belief in a Creator God. As far as
mutuations and disease are concerned, an article by The BioLogos Foundation states: "Disease and death are a part of reality, which is justified in a reading of the Bible. The blind man, just like a child with CF, had no sin which caused a debilitating illness. Much of the suffering that we see in the
world of medicine is due to environmental and genetic consequences" http://biologos.org/blog/a-faith-journey-
in-a-medical-science-career-part-3

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 1:17am On Jun 24, 2016
Lilbrown007:
Hmmmmmmmmm Exactly What I Expected From Winner01 To Display His Madness In Plenty grin cool
Yeah, my facts hurt you so bad, you think i'm mad. grin


But really, you have to admire the appeal to reason and authority that this atheist uses. Nothing says intolerance like an atheist resorting to a personal attack.

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 1:15am On Jun 24, 2016
GeneralShepherd:
Oh I got this wrong and I am sorry for that. That being said if isrealites are irrelevant why did God inspire bible writers to teach us of their murderous ways
Shame on you, expressing knowledge in something you have no idea about.


Brennan Ritchie, an atheist and self-professed "stand-up comedian", uses another strawman argument for the existence of God. Why is it that they repeat the same ad hominems? Perhaps it would do good for him to read the following:
How Would You Define God?
http://realclearapologetics.com/blogs/pps2006/how-would-you-define-god/

Exposing the Straw Men of New Atheism
http://biologos.org/blog/series/exposing-the-straw-men-of-new-atheism

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 1:11am On Jun 24, 2016
dalaman:
[size=5pt]You have defended your murderous God and his murderous prophets how? Keep crying.

More death and destruction from your God. The main source or inspiration for militant atheist.


Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites

They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.

Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. “Why have you let all the women live?” he demanded. “These are the very ones who followed Balaam’s advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD’s people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.” (Numbers 31:7-18)[/size]
Story!.


Now lets feel some atheist love from more sincere atheists, who did not learn their morality from christianity or society.

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 1:08am On Jun 24, 2016
GeneralShepherd:
Why do I need to assure myself about what is written in black and blue? projecting much?
If you didnt believe, you wont be here, period!! angry angry



Atheist JJ Rasch deingrates Christians, stating that they are illogical http://www.reasonablefaith.org/sobels-acid-
bath-for-theism-review-article-logic-and-theism.

This kind of mockery, as mentioned in this article, leads to persecution, as demonstrated throughout history: http://www.cija.ca/interfaith-2/cause-of-death-militant-atheism/

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 1:05am On Jun 24, 2016
PastorAIO:
And therein lies Rev King's defence.
We are christ-ians, we can make our judgements from the life of christ. I've told dalaman this.


The Atheist Amid Inn advocates shooting believers simply because of their religious faith. This practice has a historical precedent - in the USSR, an atheist state, the League
of Militant Atheists shot believers who would refuse to renounce their faith and accept atheism. Today, atheist states continue
this practice. Because objective morality does not exist without God, atheists see no harm in persecuting those who think differently from them: http://martyredintheussr.com/

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 1:01am On Jun 24, 2016
GeneralShepherd:
Is there any portion of the bible that contains the word 'Christian '? It's unfortunate that an atheist is schooling you on the 'word'.
Chai!!! Stark ignorance. Why do you speak on what you know nothing about.

Atheist Ravi Muvattupuzha mocks the Holy Bible, despite the fact that it has changed lives, in many cases, saving people from suicide: http://www.gideons.org/ChangedLives/ChangedLivesText.aspx?source=%7B09892BDF-335A-47DF-B7B2-FAC56918C93D%7D

In addition, it is supported by archaeology and history: http://www.bethinking.org/is-the-bible-reliable/archaeology-and-the-historical-reliability

Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Kalanithi: Why I Gave Up On Atheism by winner01(op): 8:11pm On Jun 23, 2016
otemanuduno:
[size=5pt]IMO, I think the atheists are not actually saying that there is no possibility of God's existence, but rather, all the so-called gods are not the GOD OF THE UNIVERSE. That's why you see atheists requesting for clear evidence of a true GOD(not gods).

I have an answer for all atheists, THERE IS GOD WHO CREATED THE UNIVERSE WITH A BIG BANG. HE CREATED THE FIRST HOMOS WHOM PEOPLE NOW KNOW AS Gods(e.g Vishnu, Jehovah(Allah), Odin, Olorun, Oghene, Jupiter, Mercury, etc.)

THE NAME OF THE GOD WHO CREATED THE UNIVERSE WITH A BIG BANG IS 'LORD'. HE HAS NO PERSONAL NAME, BUT FOR DIFFERENTIATION SAKE, I AM BEING INSTRUCTED TO USE 'DOMINO REVERAD'.

our God does not require WORSHIP FROM ANYONE. HE DOES NOT KILL. HE HAS COMMITTED THE AFFAIRS OF ALL HIS STARS AND PLANETS TO NATURE AND NATURE IS WHAT GIVES MIRACLES, HEALINGS, ETC.

that's why no matter the religion you put yourself in, when the time comes for nature to MANIFEST, IT MANIFESTS AND NO ONE CAN STOP IT.

dead people has risen by the power of NATURE. Mad people has been restored by the power of nature. I AM A TESTIMONY OF HOW NATURE BRINGS ABOUT GREAT CHANGE IN MY LIFE AFTER WALKING OUT OF THE RELIGION OF BONDAGE(CHRISTIANITY) MADE BY jehovah/jesus, one of the first sets of HOMOS created by DOMINO REVERAD OUR GOD in the periods of the NEANDERTHALS and HOMINIDS[/size].
Guy, I beg you in the name of whatever you believe: please don't share with me your sick ideas. Thanks.
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Kalanithi: Why I Gave Up On Atheism by winner01(op):
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One of the oldest homo sapiens fossils is 160,000 years old, much older than the supposed ~6,000 years old that the Bible claims! This clearly debunks the Adam and Eve story. There are several other genetic and archaeological findings that have excavated other homo sapiens fossils that are within the 100,000 to 200,000 years old range.
You give very weak arguments, really undeserving of my time.

Can you provide a biblical reference of the earth being 6000 years old? undecided.
In my opinion, the claim of 6000 years was gotten from archbishop James ussher, Bishop in the Church of Ireland in the 16th century. He took the genealogies of genesis, assuming they were complete, and calculated all the years to arrive at a date for the creation of the earth on sunday, october 23, 4004 B.C.
Many people have also come up with dates for creation, such as Johannes Kepler (3992 BC), Gerhard Hasel (4178 BC), and Isaac Newton (~4000 BC) but have received far lesser criticisms, and i keep wondering why.
These men were simply trying their best to get answers for humanity. But in your hurt and hate, you seem to be blind to the others and focus all your efforts on disproving christianity.

I respect these men but personally i dont think the age of the earth has been proven. Those who hold to billions of years trust that methods such as radiometric dating are reliable and assume that nothing has occurred in history that may have disrupted the normal decay of radio-isotopes. and of course, God could have created the universe in a state that “appears” to give it a very long age.

Just calm your nerves, We will keep making findings about our world as God commanded; "But now ask the beasts, and let them teach you; and the birds of the heavens, and let them tell you. Or speak to the earth, and let it teach you; and let the fish of the sea declare to you. Who among all these does not know That the hand of the LORD has done this, In whose hand is the life of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind?" (Job 12:7-11)

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You suggest that scientists have not been able to establish equivalent feats achieved by the greatest scientists of old! I'm about to laugh. What are you typing with? How are you communicating with me? Do you realize that there's more to know about the universe than we currently know? And do you realize that science has advanced significantly since the Middle Ages? Space travel, quantum mechanics, vaccines, antibiotics, and the like are incredible innovations that have vastly changed our quality of life.
I'm typing with a computer. Can you give a list from the time of the invention of the computer all the way through its diverse revolutions, so that we can identify how many atheists have been involved in the significant breakthrough of the computer.
Can you give us the founders and innovators of those field's you've mentioned. I'm interested in them all grin.
Can you also give examples of fields discovered by atheists (not innovations) in our age at least.

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Please pick up the book "Guns, Germs, and Steel" by Jared Diamond. Read up on history. This is another false correlational argument.
Ill get it. I do have my ways of identifying bullshit though.

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I won't toot my own horn here, I'll leave it at that.
You will leave it at that cos you got nothing to say. Those billionaires are not as bitter as you are, they do not go around spreading atheism.

Antiparticle:
Wealth can also be achieved through scamming poor people, manipulating capital markets, and more! This is another indefensible correlational argument.
Goalpost shifted!!!. Is this how you react when you're proved wrong? You diverted from rich people being atheists to the wealth of christians being gotten through dubious means. undecided
You really are trying hard to survive this.

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Intellectual dishonesty 101. I wrote that " a much smaller fraction of American scientists believe in god/gods compared to the general public!", you will see that ten times more American scientists don't believe in god/gods or a higher power vs the general public (41% to 4%). Also, you conveniently lump all religions or claims of believing in a higher power together when you want to make arguments for Christianity. This is classically disingenuous and dishonest. If you were debating a Zeus worshipper you would be arguing that he/she worshiping a false deity, yet in this debate you would dishonestly lump him/her into the same camp as you. You can't point out arbitrary correlations and use them to make indefensible arguments.
I made a claim initially : RELIGIOUS MINDS HAVE BEEN FAR MORE PRODUCTIVE THAN ATHEISTIC MINDS. I clearly did not exclude christianity from this. So if i lump all religion together, i'm justified. You on the other hand are unjustifiably lumping irreligion with atheism. I was at a time irreligious but not an atheist and so many other people still are. Maybe you should state the percentage of atheist scientists and stop trying to sound reasonable when you're not.

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Ok, you really think anyone will take your points seriously after reading this?
Unlike you, I can provide proof/s to back my points. For example, Noted ex-atheist and psychologist Dr. Paul Vitz has stated that he had superficial reasons for becoming an atheist such as the desire to be accepted by his Stanford University professors who were united in disbelief regarding God.

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Correlation does not imply causation. Also, your data is cherry-picked and is purely correlational. I can do the same for all religions but nah!
My data is cherry-picked? undecided This exactly is why i didnt want to reply you initially. Once you cant disprove something, you pass it off as false? Well, i'm sorry for offending you with my facts grin.

I'll re-post that quote so that you can have one more shot at disproving it;
winner01:
You have subtly shifted the goal post from atheism to irreligiousity. Irreligious countries are not atheist countries. You need to make up your mind instead of clinging on to science or irreligiousity to validate your claims. Countries that are also ruled by atheists today can be observed. North korea is a good example of what atheism can do to a country and its people.

Of course you can come up with proof associating religious people and mass murder. [size=13pt]But you certainly cannot come up with proof associating religious people to mass murders of atheistic magnitude. The historical record of collective atheism is 182,716 times worse on an annual basis than Christianity’s worst and most infamous misdeed, the Spanish Inquisition. The average atheist crime against humanity is 18.3 million percent worse than the very worst depredation committed by Christians, even though atheists have had less than one-twentieth the number of opportunities with which to commit them. I have proved that in the links i posted. People can check out my threads too.
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You really think this is a credible website? This website (conservapedia) by the same Christian fundamentalists who fight against the teaching of the science of evolution in schools? The same Christian fundamentalists who attempt to teach the Genesis creation story as facts? You really don't expect me to take this seriously.
What is the science of evolution? That elephants evolved into whales, or that dogs evolved into dolphins?



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Correlation does not imply causation. Also, stop lumping all other religions together. If your religion is true, then defend it.
I lumped all religion together right from the beginning when i said; Religious minds have been more productive than atheistic minds. Once again, stop trying to be reasonable when you obviously aren't

I'm not here to tell you if my faith is true or not. I'm interested in proving that faith is superior to atheism. When one gets this fact, only then can we begin to reason out which faith is true.



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The website you lifted these images from is conservapedia again, a discredited source. Correlation does not imply causation.
Discredited by whom? undecided You? grin

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You can't invent your own "facts". Give the readers just one single example of how prayer and fasting has solved a real human problem like regrowth of an amputated limb. The readers are waiting.
You know why you have lost this already. You have sided with the readers even before giving them a chance to judge your watery submissions. You've tried severally to appeal to their emotions and that further proves that atheists cannot stand on their own.

Either you like it or not, Christianity will continue to put smiles on peoples faces. Answers to prayers have been evident in the lives of millions just like mine. On the issue of amputated limbs, of course God can do anything. God intended for man to work, atheists erroneously think christians are not meant to work but pray and expect food from air. grin. I can pray for a beggar with an amputated limb and that might facilitate his connection to people or christian organizations that can provide him with artificial limbs. That's how prayer works. Prayer is a form of communion with God, it does not turn christians to show off magicians.
I watched the CBN charity group sponsor the surgery of a man in India, the man said he had earlier prayed to God. He received the answers to his prayers through the surgery just in time.

So I ask you, what has atheism done for humanity except unimaginable democidal acts?
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 1:08pm On Jun 23, 2016
GeneralShepherd:
Is there any portion of the bible that contains the word 'Christian '? It's unfortunate that an atheist is schooling you on the 'word'.
His point is clear my friend. The isrealites were not christians. Russians are people who are from russia, Nigerians are people who are from Nigeria. Christians are people who are in Christ Jesus, even though several christians wrongly call themselves one.
The Bible says: "If any man be in Christ, he is a new Creature. Old things have passed away, behold all have become new".

Those genuinely in Christ are christians. They want to be like Christ. So if someone kills in the name of Christ, we can judge him through christs commandments.

Atheist Linda Warenfelt-Wagner supports Arjun Manu's mockery of those who believe differently than them. In the article "Cause of Death: Militant Atheism", the author states that
"We know from history that the mockery of certain ethnic and religious groups often led to their persecution," in reference to the Holocaust (9 million deaths), as well as the Persecution of Christians under the State Atheism of the Soviet Union (12 million deaths).

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 12:11pm On Jun 23, 2016
Lilbrown007:
@winner01 U Ignored My Quote I Will Take That As An Invite Since I See U Still Posting Those Pic cool
I will keep exposing the foolishness of atheism my brother. And nothing you do will ever stop that.

The atheist Cameron Shane Vos threatens violence against believers and calls them stupid, despite the fact that science demonstrates that religiosity and education are directly proportional: (source)

In addition, Cameron Shane Vos fails to take into account that historically, it was organizations like the League of Militant Atheists that rounded up believers to be placed in labour camps:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84-6ES4Zp6A#t=550

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 12:07pm On Jun 23, 2016
dalaman:
I have also made my point.

More Godly love from the bible.

Kill People Who Don’t Listen to Priests


Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12
This topic is about atheists. People can see how you cant defend your atheism.

Atheist Arjun Manu, from Calicut, India, posts a billboard mocking Jesus Christ, the Son of God in Christianity, as well as
a prophet as believed in Islam. Does Arjun Manu not have any respect for those who believe differently than he does? Of course today, atheists continue to silence those who think differently than they do, after realizing that their position is illogical: http://news.sky.com/story/1182991/the-christian-underground-in-atheist-china

They have a historical record for doing this.
Under the militant atheism of the USSR, millions of Christians, in addition to millions of Buddhists, Muslims, and Jews were martyred for their faith in God. If Arjun is really for equality, as his profile picture claims, than why does he bully people of faith? His recent uploads compare Jesus Christ to a Vagina during this pious season of Lent. In addition, this billboard picture seems to denigrate those who suffer from mental illness and the homeless. Interestingly enough, atheism is associated with both of these things: (source)

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