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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 5:15pm On Jun 20, 2016

GeneralShepherd:
Haba you my friend, atheism does not have any creed nor ideology.

What is wrong in exposing the tendency of Christians to bomb abortion clinics and kill homosexuals?

Atheism as you say, is unbelief?.
So what exactly is your motivation for wanting others not to believe in God with you? undecided

There's nothing wrong in exposing the tendencies of CHRIST-ians to bomb and kill people. CHRIST-ians, just as the name implies, are people like christ. People that strive to be like Christ.

Christ is our standard, so whosoever calls himself a christian and bombs people, please feel free to expose them before they cause more harm. We all know the kind of life Christ lived on earth.

Justin Bowers comments on christian page insulting the beliefs of those whom he does not even know. Why are atheists so intolerant of the beliefs of others? Historically, in many atheist states, mockery leads to persecution: http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=zxiS-vp0dqo

Christianity Etc › Atheist Professor, Holly Ordway, Becomes Christian. by winner01(op): 4:29pm On Jun 20, 2016

Prof. Holly Ordway has published a book titled Not God’s Type, telling her personal story. She begins “I had never in my life said a prayer, never been to a church service. Christmas meant presents and Easter meant chocolate bunnies–nothing more.” But her views get hardened: “In college, I absorbed the idea that Christianity was historical curiosity, or a blemish on modern civilization, or perhaps both. My college science classes presented Christians as illiterate anti-intellectuals who, because they didn’t embrace Darwinism, threatened the advancement of knowledge. My history classes omitted or downplayed references to historical figures’ faith.” Still later, “At thirty-one years old, I was an atheist college professor–and I delighted in thinking of myself that way. I got a kick out of being an unbeliever; it was fun to consider myself superior to the unenlightened, superstitious masses, and to make snide comments about Christians.” (p.15-16)

Ordway was a trained academic without a history in religion. But she was no disinterested intellectual: “There was something about the idea of faith that made it stick with me. I didn’t have faith, I didn’t want faith, but I felt compelled to have a good reason why not. I constructed an elaborate analogy for myself, one that I felt gave satisfying explanation of why ‘faith’ was impossible. . . I could not believe, no matter how much I might want to . . .I thought ‘faith’ was a meaningless word, that so-called believers were either hypocrites or self-deluded fools, and that it was a waste of time to consider any claim that Christians made about the truth. . . . I didn’t want to deal with that. Easier by far to read only books by atheists that told me what I wanted to hear: that I was smarter and more intellectually honest and morally superior than the poor, deluded Christians. I had built myself a fortress of atheism, secure against any attack by irrational faith.” (p.17-18)

Ordway had carefully built up a defense, but not so careful as to protect her mind from the ideas of the great English poets. She speaks of being surprised by such writers as John Keats, John Donne, and Gerard Manley Hopkins, men who wrote of a beautiful concept: hope. A day of hope . . . was there such a day to hope for?

The rest of Ordway’s book tells of her meeting a fencing coach that she trusted, a person who she did not discover was a Christian until after she had begun working with him. He and his wife merely answered her questions, not pressing anything religious on her. She is intellectually honest enough to investigate the sources . . . When she asks for reasonable works on the resurrection of Jesus, she is given N. T. Wright’s The Resurrection of the Son of God, 740 pages of scholarly examination. She reads Lewis’ Surprised By Joy, and Does God Exist? by Kreeft and Moreland, among others.

Both Ordway and C. S. Lewis were credentialed professors of literature before becoming Christian. Both were committed atheists who had created intellectual defenses against belief in Jesus. Later in her story, Ordway writes, “I read through the Gospel narratives again, trying to take in what they said. I had to admit that — even apart from everything else I had learned — I recognized that they were fact, not story. I’d been steeped in folklore, fantasy, legend, and myth ever since I was a child, and I had studied these literary genres as an adult; I knew their cadences, their flavor, their rhythm. None of these stylistic fingerprints appeared in the New Testament books that I was reading.” (p.117)

So here we have a trained, experienced, atheist professor of literature, who if anything knows a myth when she sees it, declaring that it is not such, but rather “The Gospels had the ineffable texture of history, with all the odd clarity of detail that comes when the author is recounting something so huge that even as he tells it, he doesn’t see all the implications.” (p.117) Like Lewis, who was a professor of literature at Oxford and Cambridge, Ordway made the conclusion of an expert in literature, that the New Testament has all the signs of an eyewitness account.

Ordway gives a very personal account of what it was like to be changed, speaking of how difficult and fearful it was for her to change her beliefs and become a Christian: “It is a hard thing to look at the truth when it runs contrary to what you’ve always believed. The experience is like pulling back the curtains in a dimly lit room and looking out the window to see what’s really inside. When your eyes are used to artificial light, the bright sunlight is almost blinding; your eyes may sting and even water at the brightness, and the temptation is to turn away to the more comfortable dimness.”

But in the end she knew her intellectual drive for truth could not let her turn away. She knew she was drawn to the truth, that the New Testament is true and Jesus is real.

Source:https://jamesbishopblog./2015/01/29/atheist-professor-becomes-christian/

Christianity Etc › Re: If God Created Everything, Who Created God? by winner01(op): 4:21pm On Jun 20, 2016

Dynamite02:
The theory of evolution is only a
hypothesis..Darwin later realised this, yet some scientists treat it as fact. Darwin himself said that the absence of transitional forms would prove his theory false. There are no real evolutionary links between fishes, reptiles, birds, lower mammals and man. God created every species after its own kind.

My brother, ive created a similar thread. Please click this link. https://www.nairaland.com/2917639/much-better-explanation-evolution

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 2:43pm On Jun 20, 2016

GeneralShepherd:
Haba you my friend, atheism does not have any creed nor ideology.

What is wrong in exposing the tendency of Christians to bomb abortion clinics and kill homosexuals?

The ideology of atheism is why you dont practice mere unbelief, Its why you desperately want people to subscribe to your unbelief. Its why you want people not to believe in God with you.

This atheist states that he is "here to mock and shame you people". He is blindly following the words of the New Atheist leader, Richard Dawkins, who encourages his atheist followers to "mock and ridicule" believers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPqqp8KVuQU

Perhaps atheists should employ critical thinking skills to see whether their leader's advice is healthy for society, rather than blindly following it!

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 2:37pm On Jun 20, 2016

ValentineMary:
But u are being a kind of bigot here if u notice. Do u know how many hate messages I get from xtians daily? do u know how theist attack atheist groups on facebook and whatsapp just to send hate messages

[size=13pt]I have often wondered when atheism became about turning
people away from God rather than, as you claim, a disbelief. If you dont spend your life trying to prove how stupid christians are (as you constantly do on nairaland), no one will be infuriated by your mockery, no one will insult you.[/size]

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 1:55pm On Jun 20, 2016

GeneralShepherd:
The intention of communism in its purest form is that means of production of labour should be owned by the labourers not by a powerful few. Simple and short.

In reality, it is simply a brutal form of dictatorship and oppression. Take a cue from Cuba,China, Russia, Vietnam, and the former Soviet Union.

But these ones are not communists.

Jesse Chadwick, a resident of Seely (Montana), believes that believers should be "taken away" and have "their rights stripped
of them." Historically, atheists have treated believers this way, forcing thousands of believers into prisons and mental hospitals.

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 1:53pm On Jun 20, 2016

GeneralShepherd:
You keep quoting random individuals as if their views are somehow binding on all atheists. Okay you are a murderer that can kill an doctor that runs an abortion clinic because Scot Roeder who happens to be a christian did it.

Lol, You my friend know that that isnt true. what is wrong in exposing the totalitarianism of atheism.? undecided

"Don't Waste Your Only Life in Church! " So Says the Arrogant and Conceited American Atheist Organization. This is not fighting for the rights of atheists, this is an intolerant attack on people of faith. Their true colors are revealed

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 1:50pm On Jun 20, 2016

Ranchhoddas:
Show me where anybody in history has killed people in the name of atheism. Feel free to use the great source of information that is the internet.

Only atheists argue with facts. You do not need an answer to your question my friend. grin

Another great example of an atheist trying to win us over by using "reason" and "tolerance" . Does he make you want to become an atheist just like him?

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 1:47pm On Jun 20, 2016

KingEbukaNaija:
Only if you said the same thing about lilbrown007 's thread about Christ not existing on earth and the Hitler being a Christian but no the hypocritical atheist won't say so . The ministry against religion coupled with the lies must march on .

Winner01 and I deal with facts . There are pictures for you too see and still falsely accuse us

Nairaland atheists are so misinformed , being an atheist does not automatically make you intelligent or erudite . Pick a book and read sometime , it helps . You have the Internet too as a great source of information .

Facts my brother, FACTS!!!. All they do is talk.

The Freedom From Religion Foundation is promoting the idea that religion is a cult. Is this what atheists mean by tolerance?
Is this how atheists show respect for other beliefs?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 1:43pm On Jun 20, 2016

GeneralShepherd:
You are really funny, now you rightly agree that some deviant pastors and the KKK did not kill for Christianity but still insist a political system marked by bloodshed and oppression represents the views and the mindset of every atheist.

Interesting

It may not represent the views of all atheists buy of atheism has muderous tendencies, should we not prove them? undecided

Paul Logan comments that believers are "too stupid". Does he realise that education and belief are directly proportional? Study here: https://www.facebook.com/
photo.php?fbid=558264474196024&set=a.296894256
999715.69511.278360458853095&type=1&relevant_count=1

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 1:39pm On Jun 20, 2016

Ranchhoddas:
The dishonesty on this thread is baffling. One thing I am sure of is that if there is a hell, Winner01 and KingEbukaNaija are definitely going there.

Ranchoddas wants christians "go to hell". Thats the height of hatered for a fellow human.

Derrik McGee comments on FFAF disrespectfully accusing believers of doing certain things while selectively ignoring the
fact that the Christian Church is the largest charity of the world, running hospitals, soup kitchens, schools, homeless shelters, orphanages, universities, women's shelters, etc. He also does not take into account the history of militant state atheism and violence, in which over 25 million believers were martyred for their faith in the 20th century.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 1:33pm On Jun 20, 2016

ValentineMary:
You are making the same mistake am trying to let you see. Not all atheist think the same. Or would it be fair if I said all theist are murders and homophobic because of the Orlando shooting Not all atheist discriminate and marginalize. Eg would Mark Zukerburg asked if u are a theist before u are employed on facebook I also know Lalasticlala works here as a moderator but he is theist, Seun could have employed only atheist if all atheist think the same, also most of my best friends are christians, I honestly don't want them to be eliminated off earth surface.

I hear you. But you speak for yourself.

thousand of other atheists desperately want to see the end of religion forever.

A good example is shown below where atheist Alex Fynney sends a christian group a message telling them to "die". Indeed, many militant atheists in the USSR, and other
atheist states held the same attitude.

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 1:30pm On Jun 20, 2016

sweetcocoa:
Never show to come do wetin exactly?

So I'm supposed to start arguing that atheism isn't responsible for these ones being what they chose to be?

Till you show me tenets for atheism which okays killing, you have no point, unfortunately, same can't be said for religion.

Do you want me to mention to you the tenets of atheism? grin

Screenshots reflecting the atheistic and white supremacist views of Elliot Rodgers

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 1:27pm On Jun 20, 2016

GeneralShepherd:
Communism is an economic and political system based on the principle "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." It stresses that the control of the means of producing economic goods in a society should reside in the hands of those who invest their labor for production.

Who argues with facts? What else do you want KingEbukaNaija to prove to you? undecided

The atheist Jacky Gokadoin states that she is "superior" to people of faith. Charles Moore, in an article in The Telegraph, criticizes New Militant Atheists for believing the myth that
"atheism is an elite state, a superior order of being, a plane of enlightenment denied to thickoes." Contrary to atheistic mythology, science shows us that education and religion are directly proportional: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?
fbid=558264474196024&set=a.296894256999715.69511.27
8360458853095&type=1&relevant_count=1

Jacky Gokadoin also praises atheist states, such as the People's Republic of China and Vietnam for persecuting the religious.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 1:20pm On Jun 20, 2016

sweetcocoa:
Why the need to lie? Even your god and religion think atheists f00ls as is clearly written in the bible.

Y'all have labelled atheists with names that are unprintable, so quit lying.

The word "fool" as translated in the bible suggests one who is not thinking rationally.

We dont think you are retards. The bible thinks you are being foolish. Normal people can be foolish at times. Retardation is an abnormality that atheists think is exclusive to all christians.

Vile Language from an Atheist who emailed christian group claiming he wants "peace" but viciously attacks those he disagrees with.
How's this for tolerant atheism?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 1:15pm On Jun 20, 2016

GeneralShepherd:
An example of when I got angry was when I saw a footage of a south African pastor that asked his followers to eat grass. I was not angry because others did not share my beliefs.

So hang on human life is that measured in numbers, so let's assume the KKK killed for Christianity and Communists killed for Atheism, your defense would have been ' yea you killed more than us '. Really?

I also got angry at the same. But I didnt go about dehumanizing them online or compelling them to accept what christianity really is.

You are angry that people dont shart your beliefs, its why you invest your life on nairaland.

You cant turn this around. This article is to prove that atheists have serious tendencies to go wild in their hatred for God and religion.

Atheist wants religion banned because some states in the U.S cos they don't allow public nudity. He also advocates totalitarian Soviet style State Atheism and genocide against believers while denying the fact that the regimes that supported his atheistic policies were atheists.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 1:05pm On Jun 20, 2016

ValentineMary:
This is an unjust generalization. Even though I don't subscribe to religion because it is not the way forward, I don't hate or dislike religious people. I am also against banning religion because it infringes on human right. People can believe what they want, it is a free world. Thinking that because some atheist hate religious people then all atheist must di the same does not make sense because atheism has no central dogma or lifestyle. The only thing general about us is that we don't believe in God anyother thing is speculations and assumptions. That's why I have not placed any comment on winner01 thread concerning some atheist who are pro violence. Because anybody can be pro violence eg during the Rwanda genocide some catholic priest were seen killing and ordering people to kill during sermon in d pulpit.

[size=14pt]If religious people in places of power reasoned like atheists, you and your friends will be dead.[/size]

Another atheists wants religion to go completely.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 11:33am On Jun 20, 2016

K9blunt:
All I can detect here is generalization.

Yes atheist are non believers and theist are believers. Am not of the opinion that all atheist are good or not , like there are some good atheist, there are also some bad theist.

I am still going to make more research about these people you listed in the first page. But for all I know the highest genocide and tortures and what have you committed to humanity in the past and present are by theist...

Having an atheist president will be the best thing to happen to a democratic country

Make your research, and please dont forget to post your findings.

Can you mention 20 atheist presidents who have acted like normal human beings.

If most countries in the world were ruled by atheists, we will be dropping nuclear bombs on each others lands.

Atheist advocates genocide on priests and religious people and dehumanizes those that disagree with him as "retard". Ten other atheists support his genocidal sentiments.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 11:25am On Jun 20, 2016

K9blunt:
Na wa o...... Homosexualism is a degrading act to me, because I can't imagine same gendered people enjoying the act.. Simply because its commonsense!
But if I should go about shouting or killing how wrong it is to them, then I am a terrorist like boko haram, Isis etc.

As for my "unintelligent" replies, na you know o!

I am responsible for my write up, how you perceive it is not my fault so therefore not my problem.

Its not commonsense, its what you learnt from religion.
Boko haram, Isis are far more preferrable to humanity than atheists considering the number of lives lost to atheism and hatred for God.

Your fellow atheists here reason just like you.

Militant atheist page advocates the murder of national leaders and clergy. Do they realize that this is the sort of mentality that lead to the Dechristianisation during the Reign of Terror in the French Revolution and the Red Terror during the communist revolution in which thousands of priests were exterminated?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 11:21am On Jun 20, 2016

KingEbukaNaija:
Oh dear ! So much wickedness ! Atheists deny these genocides because they are guilty of condemning the religious for religion induced dissensions . Atheists who deny these acts are benighted - ignorantly obtuse and misinformed . That's a Facebook community conspicuously showing ignorance .hahahaha

So much inclination to violence.

Another atheist dehumanizes people that
don't subscribe to his religion of atheism as weak and insane.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 11:15am On Jun 20, 2016

KingEbukaNaija:
Very true bro . And the subhuman description in the other post made me cringe ... Jeez .

Atheism and bigotry

Exactly.

Another atheist who won't keep his disbelief to himself but wants christians shot.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 11:10am On Jun 20, 2016

K9blunt:
first
atheist are humans, theist as well are humans. just like all theist have the tendencies to be morally inept the same with atheist, why? because all are humans with the human tendency of being morally inept.

secondly,
unlike theist, atheist don't use imaginary entities to determine morality, if one is bad, he is bad because he is bad.
theist on the other hand are quick to blame the devil for their faults. praise a god for their success without thinking how they achieved such feat. but atheist dont believe in such fickle minded stunts.

thirdly...
atheist dont believe in imposing their beliefs on other people who refuse to be open like them, unlike theist who try to impose their beliefs through various annoying means (ad hominem, ad baculum and straw man etc.)

finally not all atheist believe in homosexualism, beastiality and other degrading activities that existed in secret but thanks to technology and civilization (the disadvantage part I mean) everything is out for people to see. but most atheist believe in the adage of "live and let live". you would be surprised that there are homophobic atheist in this world but you hardly hear about it because of your generalization mindset.

We dont impose our beliefs on others. Atheists do.
And what basis do you have for calling homosexuality a degrading act? undecided

I'm not really supposed to reply you.

Who else has noticed that this "good" lady usually gives one of the most unintelligent replies in favour of atheism. I've noticed the same trend in most threads you reply.

Another atheist tells us to shoot
oursevles.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 11:02am On Jun 20, 2016

KingEbukaNaija:
Just look at donnffd viewing the thread , lepasharon and sweetcocoa never show ?

;DLwkmd

Atheist communist group, fan of atheist Joseph Stalin, denies the widely acknowledged anti-religious violence, Red Terror, the Gulags, the Great Purge, the Holodomor, killings during the Chinese Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution carried out by his fellow communist atheists, which resulted in millions of innocent deaths. What drives militant atheists to deny genocide? Should genocide denial be a crime?

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 10:56am On Jun 20, 2016

KingEbukaNaija:
[size=14pt]Funny enough most atheists need religious moral views to determine their position in what's right or wrong [/size]

Exactly!!!

This dude believes billions of people around the world are retards just because they believe in God.

But I dont consider atheists retards, i just feel they are expressing their freewill.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 10:48am On Jun 20, 2016

GeneralShepherd:
Ku Klax Klan identifies itself as a Christian organisation and has killed alot of people. Will it be right to attribute the crimes of KKK as Christian crimes? Does it make sense to you? Even though they have been condemn thoroughly in the bible and by other Christians

Even though in spates of anger, I have uttered the words 'ban religion ', any sensible human being that understands the tenets of fundamental human rights should know that banning religion is a crime against humanity.

This is the reason advanced democracy do not advocate such rubbish. China does not only ban religion, it also jails anyone that criticises the government. Is that also as a result of atheism or a case of brutal dictatorship masked as communism?

Now to Ebuka, if the bible did nor condone slavery, why does it contain guidelines on slave management? Why didn't God outrightly condemn slavery and forbid isrealites from it?

Even if you classify klu klux klan as christians, it still does not count for 3% as compared to over 70% of the genocide of atheists.

Why should you be angry because others dont share your views.? undecided

Why should you be angry when you dont believe? undecided

Are you aware that those murderers above were also angry at God, religion and religious peeps? undecided

In the Nazi propaganda fashion, this atheist dehumanizes Christians by saying they are lower than dogs.
What makes militant atheists to regard religious people as subhumans?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 10:41am On Jun 20, 2016

K9blunt:
Let me understand you before I go further,

are you saying that, all theist are morally upright while all atheist are morally bankrupt?

No, dont shift the goal post. We are saying atheists are intolerant and have muderous tendencies in their bid to see religion disappear forever.

Atheist mocks Christian victims of religious persecution around the world and says they deserve it. Is this another proof why religious people should be wary of electing an atheist politician?

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Christianity Etc › From Filthy Rich To Heavenly Wealth by winner01(op): 10:29am On Jun 20, 2016

Manoj Raithatha appeared to have it all: a business turning over £70m, a lavish lifestyle and a young family. But suddenly his world fell apart, catapulting him in a completely different direction.

It was while at school in Kenya that I first heard the Christian message and was blown away by it. I was 11 years old.

I was a Hindu but became hugely passionate about the Christian gospel. I was moved by the cross; that the creator would die for the created.

But when I moved on to secondary school other things began to preoccupy me, such as money and business. I studied accounts and commerce at O-level and was excited by tales of how much money my grandfather had made.

DITCHING GOD
As a result I left Christianity behind. We moved back to the UK, where I went to a Catholic boarding school. I had to go to mass but I was more interested in friendships and earning money on the side.

After graduating from university I couldn’t get a job and ended up being a tea boy in a furniture store. I learnt the importance of coffee for getting sales and my manager quickly noticed I was passing customers on to the salespeople. They offered me a sales job, and in a few weeks I was one of the top salespeople in the company.

I made a lot of money in commissions, and used this to invest in property. I bought my first house and sold it a few years later for double the amount.

SUCCESS AND MORE SUCCESS
I’d begun teaching drama and wrote a play with my future wife, which won a Fringe First award in Edinburgh. That opened more doors, including being commissioned to write a TV series that won a Bafta and was nominated for an international Emmy.

But there was one thing missing – money. So I decided to go into business, and this time I really went for it. I started buying flats and renting them out. Then I got involved in the bulk buying and selling of off-plan property. It gave me a real buzz. Soon I was doing multi-million pound deals. It was always a big adrenalin rush and a gamble, but I believed I could do it. I worked day and night, selling the dream that people could be like me if they parted with their cash. There wasn’t one deal that I would turn away. I didn’t just want to be rich, I wanted to be filthy rich.

Over time, money became my god. It was like a drug. At its height the company had an annual turnover of £70m. I thought I was invincible. Money had gone to my head because it had come so quickly. I was eating out at expensive restaurants, throwing big social events and spending thousands on entertaining clients. I became a bad husband and was unfaithful to my wife.

I wasn’t happy. I always thought the next year would bring happiness; that somewhere, I would find contentment.

CRUNCH AND COLLAPSE
Then the credit crunch hit. My entire world collapsed overnight. It was like the mortgage market had been turned off, so how could I complete on these transactions? The developers began to strip us of our cash and things became extremely nasty.

At the same time my 2-year-old son became seriously ill. He was rushed to hospital, and within minutes of arriving, the hospital room was teeming with doctors and nurses; it was mayhem. My wife and I were ushered out, unsure of what was going on.

I DIDN’T JUST WANT TO BE RICH, I WANTED TO BE FILTHY RICH
Then, my wife and I prayed. We had never talked about God and the last time I had prayed was at school in Kenya. But as we did so, the sense of God’s presence I had experienced as a child began to return.

Over the next four days, I wept uncontrollably and would have given away everything just to see my son survive. What did accumulating all this wealth matter now that my son’s life was hanging by a thread?

A MIRACLE CHANGES EVERYTHING
A Christian couple we had recently befriended found out that my son was unwell. They kept calling, saying they were praying for us. I couldn’t fathom why they would do this. It blew me away. On the fourth day the consultant said: ‘Your son is not going to open his eyes.’ Then, when she was doing the ward rounds, he suddenly sat bolt upright in bed. It was a miracle.

As a result my wife and I decided to go to church, and as soon as I walked in I felt the presence of God again. I was hooked. I went back again over the next few weeks and finally gave my life to Christ. I had a massive conversion experience. I walked into church as one man, and walked out as another.

What struck me and caused me to weep for months was sensing God say: ‘I rescued your son but I did not rescue my own son. He went to the cross so you might have life.’ I was utterly broken by this and set on fire for God. My wife was amazed by the change in me.

My passion for money disappeared overnight. I prayed one afternoon, sensing God was calling me to work with South Asians. On the same day I was invited to join the South Asian Forum, a wing of the Evangelical Alliance that unites churches for mission to South Asians.

Now my passion is for how we share the Christian faith. I also run a small Christian publishing house, which releases books quickly, looking for ways to bring crossover into the secular, so that some of the books will be read by non-Christians. That is what really excites me.

Today I’m not perfect, of course. I’m still quite a mess, but I’m far less of a mess than I was.

Manoj Raithatha heads up the South Asian Forum at the Evangelical Alliance and runs Instant Apostle publishing house. His autobiography Filthy Rich (Monarch Books) is out now.

Source:http://www.premierchristianity.com/Past-Issues/2015/July-2015/From-filthy-rich-to-heavenly-wealth

Christianity Etc › Jennifer Fulwiler: Scientific Atheism To Christ (powerful Testimony) by winner01(op): 10:02am On Jun 20, 2016

Jennifer Fulwiler gives her testimony about her conversion from atheism to Christianity. Fulwiler grew up in an environment where scientific materialism and naturalism was her way of life (Carl Sagan's Cosmos was read to her as a night time bed story!). However, after much scrutiny and intellectual searching she was convinced of the truth claims of Christianity and converted.
She shares a powereful testimony here.
God bless you as you watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA3n2zZlLdw

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 9:58am On Jun 20, 2016

GeneralShepherd:
All boys are humans,
Ada is human therefore Ada is a boy

Are the above statements logical to you? All communists maybe atheists but not all atheists are communists.

Communism is not equivalent to atheism, if it were so then the prerequisite to becoming an atheist will be to first embrace communism

Okay, I don hear.
How about those that were not communists?

A militant atheist wants religious people (who he describes as 'retarded') sterilized. What drives militant atheists to support this totalitarian eugenics policy? This is the sort of mentality that led to the forced sterilization of people who were deemed
'unfit' and 'imbeciles' in the last century. "Progressives saw sterilization as having natural advantages over traditional methods of helping the poor, such as charity. Sterilization was “scientific” — its rationale could be found in the writings of Charles Darwin’s cousin Francis Galton, the father of eugenics, who mused that superior people, like superior crops and farm animals, were the product of good breeding."

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 9:48am On Jun 20, 2016

KingEbukaNaija:
Atheists concoct stories that besmirch Christianity because they feel it's a necessary evil . You know cook up lies , like hardmirror 's threads , spewing lies because they think either way there is no God , so if it means to traduce pastors with calumnies then it is justified .

And generalshepherd thinks communism has little to do with atheism . The ideology is Marxist-Leninist - atheism and antireligion - which means there is intolerance against public religious practices evidently seen in North Korea and China . And apparently the atheists ALL OVER THE WORLD - cheer them on , they are advocates of the persecution of Christians - torture and even the death of the followers of Christ . That is mental illness - why would you overtly support the torture and killing of your fellow humans simply because of their religious belief . That is evil , that is wickedness !

But seriously, they have no real reason not to lie.

With the level of hate of nairaland atheists, if given the chance, they wont hesitate to destroy religion forever even of it involves the death of religious people. Now that's mental illness.

An atheist messages a christian page by calling the page "disgusting" and "pathetic", while he likes the real disgusting and pathetic hate-filled atheist pages. I'm almost sure atheists here feel the same way about me. Atheist hypocrisy at its finest.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 9:23am On Jun 20, 2016

KingEbukaNaija:
Johnydon22 - it means atheism is that mental illness . Atheists have no moral compass - nothing to guide them , so they are like vampires with an insatiable thirst for blood and sexual gratification .

Atheist North Korean megalomaniacal buffoon of a president coerces female children into sexual servitude from a young age of 13 - these atheists really have a pathetic psychotic mindset . Gosh ! And these kids are used in parties as strippers and obviously would be used as booty calls at the end of the parties . They also entertain him and his craven myrmidons with erotic performances - that's sexual and child abuse . This the government , an atheist government , and such is condoned ! This is what godlessness is like !

Of course godlessness leaves men the freedom to do as they wish. I bn wan ask am sef say shey christians nor dey do beta thn for hn area? undecided

Na soso bad thing christians they do. I like to believe that he frames up those topics of his once in a while to stay relevant. How can one are have a monopoly of paedophiles, rapists, whitch hunters e.t.c. Maybe he lives underground. grin

This militant atheist, in agreeing with the Chinese Communist Party's on-going suppression of religion since the Cultural
Revolution, expresses his totalitarian militant atheist desire to see religion banned.

But I dont desire to see atheism banned, I only desire to see atheists express their freedom and love God willingly. How is this different from Jesus' teachings on Love undecided

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 8:45am On Jun 20, 2016

Why are atheists the most bigoted and hateful people on the planet? This bigoted atheist makes slanderous stereotype of priests as being pedophiles. Does he realize that priests don't have monopoly on child abuse and that it happens in every institution, including secular ones like public schools?

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