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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 10:03pm On Jun 21, 2016
Seun:
I can name many contemporary terrorists and mass murderers who are Christians or Muslims, and many of them were motivated by their religion. It would be hard to find one who is an atheist, and I certainly don't think anyone has ever said, "I don't believe in God, so I must kill".
Please. By all means, lets examine the facts.
If all Islamic militant groups today continue to kill at this rate for the next 60 years, the number of lives that will be lost will still be lesser to the number of lives lost to atheism in the last century alone.
I can provide facts.
So my point is: it is no coincidence.
Hatred is definately one of the motivations and resultant factors for atheism.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 9:51pm On Jun 21, 2016
Seun:
Ok, I see what you're doing. You're taking the fact that the communists were atheists and framing it in a way that makes it seem as if it is also true that atheists are communists, like a 2 way relationship. It's more honest to say you cannot separate atheism from communism, because communism certainly isn't part of atheism. Atheism simply means not believing in any God. There's nothing more to it than that. Atheists can be good or bad, just as muslims can be good or bad (ISIS), and Christians can be good or bad (KKK). Atheism doesn't make you a good person.
But the examples in the list are not all communists undecided
Atheist have an abnormal inclination to hate religion and religious folks. This can graduate into violence.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 9:40pm On Jun 21, 2016
realmindz:
What's happening here? This appears like the most dishonest thread ever in NL history. We need a nl museum to reserve threads like this..
When they are about to tell lies, that's wen u see long unreadable stories.
Unto ursef, be true...
No atheist has been able to point out a lie in this thread. It seems when a thread exposes the dangers of atheism, all you can see is lies. Ive given testable proofs, disprove them.

Evets Egdirdlaw predicts that the religious will destroy the world, not taking into account that militant atheism was responsible for the murder of million of believers in the 20th century, a phenomenon that continues today

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 9:32pm On Jun 21, 2016
Seun:
People who believe Superman is real and worship him. They have rightly pointed out that you cannot prove that Superman isn't real.

You think people who don't believe in God don't have morals? That's wrong. Morality is just a tool to make the kind of world we want to live in.
I may not be able to prove that superman does not exist. But, we can examine the claims of supermans existence, we can examine archeological evidence, we can examine the life of superman if we have proof of his existence, we can examine the motivations and actions of his followers.

People who dont believe in God have no real reason to be moral.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 9:15pm On Jun 21, 2016
SirWere:
Yes, yes, kontinu. Feed yourself with conspiracies and misrepresentations. Drown yourself with scratching the surface, thinking you've hit the ground....


Wetin concern me gringringrin
Croatia is playing well tonight dont you think?


Militant atheist Joey Ess denies the well known genocide of people of faith in North Korea, simply because the party responsible for the atrocities is an atheist state: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/19/kim-jong-il-dead-north-korea-christians_n_1158943.html

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 8:38pm On Jun 21, 2016
SirWere:
Kontinu....

I don't fucking care gringringrin


I will defend my friends, family, relatives, et al.........


I respect their religious views, even though I don't agree with it.....


But Bleep it, Why am I even replying thishuh
You are replying this cos you care my friend.



Steven Sheinfeld, a atheist, should realize that research shows that religiosity and education are directly proportional before she calls believers 'stupid' source.

Perhaps he should also accept that
atheism has historically been a main cause of the suppression of science source.

Sheinfeld should read about the arguments before making such claims: http://bethinking.org/

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 8:25pm On Jun 21, 2016
UyiIredia:
How could I have missed this? @winner01 Sorry for not responding earlier. I think you missed out on Enver Hoxha the at heist president of Albania who persecuted religious folks. Nice article. I note you have been consistent in your articles critiquing atheism as of late. I wish you all the best in your efforts.
That is the best approach to those who think atheism has anything to offer the world except intolerance and violence. Thank you Bro.


When the son of a Christian Advice Columnist Accidentally Shot his baby sister, this was the response from two heartless atheists.

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 8:17pm On Jun 21, 2016
KingEbukaNaija:
After I have proven that God and the bible do not support slavery ? Winner01 , I think this young man is frustrated that his rebuttals are easily refutable .
He just cant deal with the facts. Lol.



Militant atheist Jay Solem advocates the elimination of those who believe that religion solves problems, a fact supported by
sociological and scientific research source.

Does he follow in the footsteps of atheist leader Nicolae Ceaușescu, who implemented the policy of imprisoning and torturing the religious in the Socialist Republic of Romania
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84-6ES4Zp6A#t=550

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 8:09pm On Jun 21, 2016
Lilbrown007:
i still havnt seen any pic of bill gate in church
@winner01 u wanna play the pic game ba cause i can also go on fb and screen shut all the hate u guy trow out to other religion fb is even far self right hear on nl do u wanna play the game?? but i still havnt seen any athiest who bomb others to change their belief!
You made a claim that bill gate and wife were atheists, I disproved that. I gave you direct links on the speeches of Bill and melinda. Now you want pictures undecided. Why not give me pictures or links of them proclaiming atheism.

James Pestilence, a militant atheist, brags about his supposed sexual encounters with women who believe in God. Perhaps he
should watch the documentary Unearthed to see how harmful what he advocates is.

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 8:02pm On Jun 21, 2016
Seun:
This is a dishonest thread, which is wrong, but it doesn't even matter. I am an aSupermanist. I believe that Superman isn't real. Most Nairalanders are aSupermanists. Stalin was also an aSupermanist. That doesn't mean that Stalin's conduct says anything about Nairalanders.
Stalin's conduct might not say anything about nairalanders, but other people who killed in the name of atheism are on the list. And what is the meaning of supermanist?
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 7:56pm On Jun 21, 2016
SirWere:
Honestlyhuh
After the bulk of secular humanists, after so many philantrophic acts done by the irreligious, you still say this shii



From what I can see on this thread, you seem to think Atheists are angry.



And that's really funny gringrin
I deal with facts my friend, all you do is make untrue claims. Well, Maybe atheists are not angry, but lets hear what Anthony keeton has to say.

Atheist Anthony Keeton offers a comment supporting state atheism and the execution of the religious. This has a historical m precedent. James Nelson, PhD writes that in the 20th century, over 25 million Christians, in addition to millions of Muslims, Buddhists, and Jews, were martyred for their faith by
militant atheists in the 20th century alone.

Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Kalanithi: Why I Gave Up On Atheism by winner01(op): 7:46pm On Jun 21, 2016
Antiparticle:
The problem with @winner01's arguments is that he is mainly trolling theists and does not attempt whatsoever to explain logically why his god (Yahweh/Jesus) is real. He fails to explain why a logical and rational human should believe in the virgin birth, resurrection and miracle claims of the Bible (a book written mostly written by Bronze age desert inhabiters). He needs to explain why we should believe the Bible's extraordinary claims but not the equally extraordinary claims of other religions/deities.

He needs to justify the Old Testament actions of Yahweh commanding mass murder and infanticide left and right. He needs to help theists understand why Yahweh is a just god and is real.

But he won't do this, he insists on making correlational arguments that are all copy-and-paste and make no case for Christianity whatsoever.
What is copy and paste?
I am here to share my belief in God. Not with you, not with any other atheists. Whatever you think I need to do for you man, just keep expecting.
The singular claim i've made has made you all over the place: Religious minds have been more productive than atheistic minds. Instead of addressing that, you are busy appealing to the emotion of readers.

Let me add to your woes; If Isis, boko haram and all other islamic groups continue to kill people at this rate for the next 80 years, they stii would pale in comparison to the mass murders of atheism in the last 100 years alone. I've proved that in some of the links I posted here.

I've not and I'm not interested in proving God or the Bible to you or anyone. This is an avenue to share my belief in God as the picture below says, not to prove God. You should tell us if you are here to share your unbelief, you should tell us why you need people not to believe in God with you. I want to hope that you do not have a problem interpreting simple instructions.

Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Kalanithi: Why I Gave Up On Atheism by winner01(op): 7:16pm On Jun 21, 2016
mmsen:
Where did I say that 'god' doesn't exist?

I asked why an all knowing/loving being would take a father away from his daughter?

There are plenty of philosophical books that deal with good and evil, many of them proceed the Bible. Others came after.

Who wrote the Bible, if not 'mere humans'?
Give the names of those books please, i'm interested.
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Kalanithi: Why I Gave Up On Atheism by winner01(op): 6:20pm On Jun 21, 2016
DeSepiero:
What's the point of these stories up there?
Do they make sense or buttress a point?
Why do you keep begging the question?
You do not need to reply posts just because you want to sound smart or feel the need.
Have a nice life.
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Kalanithi: Why I Gave Up On Atheism by winner01(op): 6:08pm On Jun 21, 2016
mmsen:
I'm guessing that Paul Kalanithi prayed for healing and that his family prayed that he would be able to see his daughter grow up.

Every child needs a father so why would an 'all loving', 'all knowing' god take a father away from his daughter?
Thank you Sir, you just confirmed my claims; How else can you fight God, but to pretend He does not exist..
We see death as a transition to glory. Death is painful no doubt and at times one may not understand why. But to conclude that God does not exist because people die is not rational. The Bible is the only book that gives a rational explanation on the origin and existence of evil. No other book on philosophy carefully takes care of this. If the Bible was really written by mere humans, then i'm willing to know what kind of superhuman intelligence they possessed.
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Kalanithi: Why I Gave Up On Atheism by winner01(op): 6:00pm On Jun 21, 2016
Antiparticle:
@winner01 I will not continue to feed you because you are a troll; I didn't mean anything else, it's pretty simple. Don't make this all about the intellectual inferiority complex you imply you feel when debating atheists.
If i wanted to debate atheists, i'd be on reddit.
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Kalanithi: Why I Gave Up On Atheism by winner01(op): 5:59pm On Jun 21, 2016
DeSepiero:
Winner01 from your posts so far, I can safely conclude that you totally lack empathy for atheists and freethinkers. Same goes to all other theists. The atheists, which were mostly devote theists (Christians, esp here on Nairaland) know what it entails to be a believer. They have looked at the same picture (their life long religious belief ) from the theistic and atheistic perspective. Some will only make mockery of your believe either to enlighten you on their beliefs or for fun.

Lastly, don't you think its erroneous to attribute intellectual achievements and humanitarian service to theism alone?
Yeah. You have concluded that I lack empathy for atheists right? undecided You see I work with facts. People should click (HERE) and see who really lacks empathy for whom.

The atheists which were formally theists are only expressing their hatred for God. I know of three popular atheists on nairaland who have openly confirmed my suspicion. Two lost His and her (religious) mum, the other had to deal with divorce from His religious wife. Atheism is never arrived at by a logical conclusion. Atheists surround me. A good example is a religious friend of mine who went clubbing with some bad boys for the first time in his life. They had an accident on his way back and he was the only one who lost his legs. Of course he couldnt understand why a God would decided to punish him alone and leave the bad boys who have been at it for years. He turned to atheism of course. Another proclaimed that he wouldnt serve God again right in the hospital just minutes after we lost someone And many of such examples which i gave as the causes of atheism.
Such persons will scratch the surface of science and also start to "educate" "deluded" christians. I was irreligious myself. All i wanted was to live life. But I had to weigh the available evidence before coming to a logical conclusion. I'm yet to see a worldview that thumps christianity, atheism does not even begin to move close.

I'm not attributing intellectual acheivements to anything. I've made a clear claim, ponder on that.
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Kalanithi: Why I Gave Up On Atheism by winner01(op): 5:36pm On Jun 21, 2016
Antiparticle:
@winner01, this will be my last response to you.

All your claims (that Christianity and science are self re-enforcing) are transparently bogus and are based on the fallacy that correlation implies causation, which isn't true. I can't continue feeding you if you won't decide to rid yourself of these psychological biases.

Your responses, also, are full of bile and desperation. If your arguments were self sufficient, you wouldn't need to exhibit such vitriol towards the counterparty.

I'll let the neutral open-minded intelligent reader to decide which of us is making sense.

Well, have a good life.

**FYI, please learn to prepare logical arguments, and not ones that solely rely on correlation to imply causation. This is my problem with religion, it makes it difficult to distinguish fantasy from reality.
Whatever you misinterprete my claim to be is yours, my claim remains: Religious minds have been far more productive that atheistic minds.
So if the only interpretation you can give to this is that: christianity and science are self reinforcing, well, congratulations to you.

You see what I bolded in your reply is exactly why I feel very uncomfortable taking my time to reply you or any atheist. Somehow, just somehow, you think I'm psychologically bias and you aren't, you thing you are feeding me and it is in my own good to eat whatever knowledge you think you posses. You think because you found a new worldview, then the old one must be wrong. Somehow, you think you are intellectually superior to any theist.
That is why you do not deserve an argument from anyone.

I made solid points and the only thing you felt you could do is to appeal to the emotions of the readers, undecided The neutral reader should ask why you invest and spend everyday of your life talking about a non-existent God. I can't remember investing so much of my time talking about santa claus.

Lastly, If you re-read the title of this thread, you will decipher what it is aimed at. I'm less interested in arguing with you especially since you have the preconceived notion that whatever arguments I prepare must be illogical. I've argued with many atheists in nairaland in the past and it has repeatedly occurred to me how much of a waste of time and energy it is. The aim of the section itself is clear so why waste my time in futility.? undecided
For the sake of innocent minds who may be poisoned by this subtle plot, ill continue creating threads to bring to the awareness of people, positive testimonials and also threads to expose the folly and desperation of atheism.

Christianity Etc › Re: This Little Girl Will Blow You Away! - Video (must Watch) by winner01(op): 11:55am On Jun 21, 2016
crusadistic:
Transferring their mental illness(xtianity) to these little kids *smh*
The "mental illness" has been of significant help in our world. What in the world has atheism done for humanity?. undecided

Christianity Etc › Re: A Much Better Explanation Of Evolution by winner01(op):
donnffd:
She wasnt bringing out new ideas, she was educating the uneducated and the misinformed.

You on the other hand wants to overturn 150years of established science on its head, when you successfully do, i am so certain you would get a Noble prize,but until then, keep up the good work, more grace to your elbows...






how do you explain the sheer amount of Religious people who accept reality for what it is?
She was only indoctrinating people. If she wanted to be fair, she will post links supporting and refuting evolutions.

I'm not overturning anything, you cant overturn something that has not been cemented in the first place.

The amount of people who accept something does not validate its truth. If majority of canadians accept bestiality (which has recently been legalized in canada) as normal. Does that make bestiality any less sick?.

Truth my friend, is not confirmed by majority vote even though it might temporarily be suppressed by it. The missing links couldnt have all been transported to mars.

Christianity Etc › Re: A Much Better Explanation Of Evolution by winner01(op):
DeSepiero:
Stop posting crap here Winner01. Describing mutation as a mistake is WRONG. Have you been in a genetics class before? I don't mean O level Anyway.

Meanwhile...
I'm a scientist, I've probably had a better look into the available evidence than you. I'm done with my first and second degrees. Ill be getting my doctorate soon by the grace of God.

If thousands/millions of sub-humans evolved into thousands/millions of humans, the fossils will be abundant everywhere and unquestionable.

Evolution could not possibly have happened on mars now, could it? undecided

Christianity Etc › Re: A Much Better Explanation Of Evolution by winner01(op): 11:00am On Jun 21, 2016
donnffd:
Clap for yourself, you have dismantled evolution and it is fake...

Where is your nobel prize?
Its not surprising that you didnt request for the nobel prize of the lady (cloudgodess) whose thread I countered.


https://www.conservapedia.com/images/c/c6/Evolution.jpgLate in Charles Darwin's life, Darwin told the Duke of Argyll that he frequently had overwhelming thoughts that the natural world was the result of design. In a letter to Asa Gray, Darwin confided: "...I am quite conscious that my speculations run quite beyond the bounds of true science."


Charles Darwin’s theories certainly took the world by storm, but he seemed to have had second thoughts in some respects. In his later years he reflected on what he had started this way: “I was a young man with unformed ideas. I threw out queries, suggestions, wondering all the time over everything; and to my astonishment the ideas took like wildfire. People made a religion of them”


Evolution is important:- for those who cannot bear the reality of a Creator, for those who desperately want atheism to be true.
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Kalanithi: Why I Gave Up On Atheism by winner01(op):
Antiparticle:
I never claimed that atheism has done anything for humanity -- atheism is merely the absence of belief in gods or god concepts. Atheism makes no claims. Science is what has done loads for humanity. You seem to claim that science and Christianity are self re-enforcing, and you seem to make wild claims that religion is responsible for science. You do not realize that correlation does not imply causation.
And now i'm telling you. Atheism has done far more havoc than good to humanity and i proved that HERE and HERE. Atheism is not merely the absence of belief in God or gods. Atheism is a belief system that seeks to compel people to join its train. I have an absence of belief in santa claus or superman. I do not spend each day of my life talking about them because the belief is just not there. If I see people who believe in them and are happy, i'll smile. Now thats what MERE UNBELIEF is. The time and energy you spend on this section proves that you people are battling with your conscience to suppress your belief in the existence of your Creator.

Science, science, science. You cant just stand on your own, can you? undecided You need to cling to science or any other thing to validate your claims. I've made claims on how religious minds are breathtakingly productive, disprove that and stop try to rephrase my claims to suit your arguments..

Antiparticle:
If we were to follow Jesus's words, we wouldn't build hospitals, all we would do is pray endlessly for healing. If we were to follow Yahweh's or the Apostle Paul's words, Africans would still be enslaved today. If we were to follow the Bible's claims, modern medicine's understanding of genetics would be false, yet we know it isn't false because we have been able to develop genetic therapies as well as developments that are based on evolutionary biology.
Jesus commanded his followers to make 'disciples of all nations'. And that is exactly what i see christians doing. I see christians building hospitals, I see christians building educational institutes, Prestigious institutes such as Havard, Princeton, Oxford, Cambridge and several others were founded by christians. I see christians building countless orphanages. Christianity runs the largest charity in the world, Christians spend their time in hospital deathbeds-giving hope to the hopeless, in prison cells-giving hope to the condemned, in camps of people who have been rendered homeless by terrorists spreading help and encouragement, consistently engaging in village outreaches amongst others. I see christianity putting smiles on the faces of people. Countless people have become disciples of Christ through the love shown to them so what exactly is wrong with you? undecided https://www.conservapedia.com/images/0/00/FMSC_Distribution_Partner_in_Malawi.jpgJust like several other christian organizations, the Christian relief organization Feed My Starving Children has a distribution partner in Malawi, Africa. In recent years, Christianity has seen a rapid growth in Africa. In 2005, there were four times as many non-Western World Christians as there were Western World Christians.

Jesus never said we should always pray endlessly for healing in churches. Jesus never said that people should not work to help people. Doctors pray, does that mean they wont do their Job? undecided Whatever opinions you have about christianity is your and yours alone.

I bolded 'we' in the above, Who exactly are these 'we'? undecided. And which developments are based on evolutionary biology?. I hope you wont start telling me about adaptation (micro-evolution). What exactly has darwinian macro-evolution done for humanity?


Antiparticle:
Genetics, archaeology, paleontology, geography, and astrophysics tell us much more about nature than the Bible ever did.
Because the Bible is not a science textbook. Nowhere does the Bible stop man from exploring his world. The Bible only contains historical occurences and documentation that can hep us know more about God.

Thanks to Genetics and paleontology, without these, we would take in the lie of darwinian evolution hookline and sinker. Thanks to archaeology, we have been able to confirm several historical occurences in the Bible. None of these fields was discovered by an atheist, neither do they present evidence to support atheism.

Antiparticle:
If we were to follow Yahweh's words, slavery and mass murder would be the order of the day. If we were to follow Jesus' words, why is it that he hasn't come back yet even though he told his followers that he would be back within their lifetimes?
You see. i'm not supposed to reply all these rants, as a matter of fact, i've decided to waste lesser time with desperate atheists. I've gotten more concerned with disproving atheism, rather than arguing God or the Bible with any atheist. Most especially not on this forum, cos i'm beginning to get the point of this section of the forum.
Atheists have been the biggest mass murderers in history (source1, source 2). Till date, atheism still have suicidal and muderous tendencies, you may help yourself out with the links if you wish.



Antiparticle:
Christianity has done little to nothing to move the human race ahead, science has done much more. The Catholic Church fought science during The Age of Enlightenment (16th to 18th century Europe), with popes ordering the murder and oppression of rationalists & skeptics who questioned aspects of Christian doctrine about nature. The Age of Enlightenment was a period in Western Europe in which scientific progress accelerated, the impetus for this acceleration was that people/scientists realized that reason and rational thinking, not divinity or religion, is the primary source of epistemological authority and legitimacy. That many of the scientists of that era were loosely called Christians does not imply that Christianity and science were ever self re-enforcing.
Look you need to learn how to learn, unlearn and re-learn, especially in this age. Ignorance can never be an excuse. Whenever you choose to discuss God, christianity or the Bible, Do not refer me to a site regulated by an atheist. https://www.conservapedia.com/images/3/32/Jimmy_wales_1.jpgCo-Founder of Wikipedia, the atheist Jimmy Wales

If you are interested in the bias of wikipedia against Christianity, click HERE.

Nairaland is also a good example of bias. The absence of a christian section is one, The kind of topics that are quick to make front page to defame God, christianity and pastors is also glaring for any sensitive christian to make inferences from, the more reasonable topics don't hit front page.

Atheism will do absolutely anything to further its cause. An example is the rise of atheist mega-churches, where people go every sunday instead of churches. Atheist leaders in the 20th century enforced a totalitarian law worse than islam which saw to the death of over 256,000,000 people.
What do we have today, Christianity is still waxing strong.
You see, atheism is not science and has absolutely nothing to offer science except maybe the religion of darwinian evolution. Atheism, if anything, has only suppressed science.(source1), (source2)

I agree that science has done much more for humanity. But you are in no place to tell me that. You are an atheist, not a scientist. Atheism is not science.
Those people who moved science forward were deeply religious. Research has shows that religiosity and education are directly proportional? (source).


Antiparticle:
Anyways, here's my response for why people should not believe. It is a previous post of mine -> https://www.nairaland.com/3085047/part-2-pastor-atheist-why/12#45475099
Why on earth would i want to be interested in the reason why some people believe that the samsung 15mp camera has a creator, and the 574 mp human eye arose by accident? undecided I'm not interested in the desperation of people who disbelieve in God, neither am i interested in the opinions of people who disbelieve in santa claus.

You do not believe in God, fine. You do not need to encourage me not to believe in God with you.
Christianity Etc › Re: PART 2: Pastor to Atheist: Why I will NEVER be a Christian again by winner01(m): 6:54am On Jun 21, 2016
frank317:
Ya... my mum was that way too but she didn't see her death coming
Sorry about the death of your mun bro but you just cant fight God.
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Kalanithi: Why I Gave Up On Atheism by winner01(op): 2:13am On Jun 21, 2016
Antiparticle:
Ok, please point out to me where I spent my life or time hating religious people.
Also, you have not responded to any of my comments, except throw words like "ignorant", "hating", etc at me.
This is what is frustrating about attempting to have a civil conversation on here.

You make so many arbitrary claims that I have responded to, yet instead of addressing them you resort to ad hominem attacks. You make other wild accusations that I won't spend my time responding to.

Also, it is quite disingenuous for you to take credit for what people of other religions have done, just because you are Christian and religious. If your specific god is real, then prove it and stop making baseless and arbitrary claims and accusations.
You had better not spend your time responding to me.
You have made zero claims and peope can see that.
I'm not taking credit for what people of other religions have done. As a matter of fact they pale in comparison to what christianity has offered the world. I'm emphasizing the productivity of religious minds.
I'm not taking credit for anything. Just tell me what atheism has done for humanity, if you cant, i can.
Religious minds have far been productive and continue to be. All you people do is scratch the surface of science and pour it in the face of some christians who know little or nothing about science in a bid to dehumanize them.

As for spending you life on what does not exist, ill have to ask you: What are you doing here? Of about 40 sections on Nairaland, why do you choose to spend your time on religion? Why do you need people not to believe in God with you?

Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Kalanithi: Why I Gave Up On Atheism by winner01(op): 1:47am On Jun 21, 2016
Antiparticle:
Ok. So you are telling me that because many scientists several centuries ago were associated with Christianity therefore Christianity is true? Based on this logic, then Islam is the true religion because its scientists (during the golden age of Islam) were Muslim?

Also, your statement that a Christian "founded" the scientific method is false. No single human "founded" the scientific method. The scientific method evolved out of millenia of rationalist thinking which can be traced back to the Aristotelian days. If you care to know, Aristotle existed centuries before Jesus.
You might wanna tell us what Francis bacon is widely regarded as.
Dont shift the goal post here. I'm not saying because Christian scientists were exceptional, then christianity must be true.

I'm saying, religious minds (other religions inclusive) have been far more productive than atheistic minds. So why on earth would you attempt to attribute the ignorance of people in the olden days to religion? undecided
Education was what was needed.

Atheism have offered nothing to humanity. Y'all spend your lives on hating religious people rather than being productive for yourselves and others, and worse still, you claim reasoning is exclusively meant for atheists.
undecided

Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Kalanithi: Why I Gave Up On Atheism by winner01(op): 1:21am On Jun 21, 2016
Antiparticle:
We used to attribute epilepsy and schizophrenia to demons and spirits, we now know precisely that they are due to physical causes in the brain. We used to attribute diseases to demons, we also now know that these can be treated using exclusively physical measures.

Various human cultures used to attribute any natural phenomenon they couldn't understand to a god. Today these phenomenons -- such as lightning, rainfall, an eclipse, etc -- are precisely understood and in many cases can be replicated in lab environments without having to invoke a supposed spiritual realm.

If I ever were to be religious I would subscribe to Jainism, a religion that is not theistic and is deeply pacifist in every way. Jainism is hundreds of years older than Christianity. Adherents to Jainism believe in pacifism in every way to the extent that many of them don't wear anything made of cotton, leather, etc in order to not harm plants or animals.
You are ignorant of the fact that majority of the scientists who opened our eyes, majority of the scientists who found solutions to humanity in terms of science and technology were religious. They had a mandate to find out more about their world as God commanded. The founder of the scientific method was also a christian.

I'm at loss on what atheism has done for humanity. Left to atheism, we would still be in the dark ages. And before you start mentioning the names of contemporary pseudoscientists, just make sure they've acheived equivalent feats attained by previous religious scientists.

If you want to subscribe to janism, do so but just dont spend your life talking about something that does not exist.

Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Kalanithi: Why I Gave Up On Atheism by winner01(op): 1:09am On Jun 21, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
It's just one of the thousands that abound..
But you seem less concerned about the thousands of religion that abound. You spend your life discussing about only one. Seems to me that you dont concern yourself with lies. wink
Christianity Etc › Re: Paul Kalanithi: Why I Gave Up On Atheism by winner01(op): 1:07am On Jun 21, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
In the quest for truth, people are always moving from point to point-Unbelief to belief and vice-versa. There was a story on the frontpage not long ago of 104 christians that converted to Islam in one swoop. You and I know the story of a certain pastor called Hardmirror... So what pray tell is the point of this thread?
104 huh?
Someone posted pictures on twitter and so because it made front page it must be true? undecided

This quote "Saleem Abdulqadir who posted the pictures on twitter wrote; Total of 104 Christians accepted the light of Islam in Delta state,Nigeria. Ya Allah grant them your infinite mercy" is the only proof available.

Its good that the fifth comment on that thread exposed the ridiculous intent of the thread.
https://www.nairaland.com/3171963/104-christians-convert-islam-delta
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op):
am0sn0nyu:
Wait let me ask you something bro, don't you think the world would have been a far peaceful place and safer if there was no such a believe as a God or adhering to any religion whatsoever ?
Absolutely not. These examples ive given are indications that a godless society is not always peaceful. In the 20th century, atheistic countries caused the death of over 256,000,000 lives. If Isis, boko haram, al shabbab and all militant islamic groups continue to kill for the next 50 years, it still wont reach this number of lives lost to atheism.

If you revere God, you'll revere human life.

Jesus said: " Love your neighbour as you love yourself."

If the whole world did this, the world would be more peaceful and safer.

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 12:36am On Jun 21, 2016
Lilbrown007:
What Has This Got To Do With What I Posted undecided
Roger Gupta, an atheist, mentions pederasty, a common practice banned under the reign of the Christian Church: http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/9985571743.html

If it were not for the Church, barbaric practices like this one, as well as human sacrifice & cannibalism by the Druids would still occur today: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/03/ 090320-druids-sacrifice-cannibalism.html

Also, why does Roger single out a minority of clergy rather than public teachers, who have committed the crime at a far greater level? (Ref: http://wizbangblog.com/2011/07/08/sexual-
abuse-of-students-in-schools-is-likely-more-than-100-times-the-abuse-by-priests/

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Murderers(past/present) And The Murderous Tendencies Of Todays Atheists. by winner01(op): 12:29am On Jun 21, 2016
Lilbrown007:
Can U Give Me A Pic Of Him In Catholic Church Even If Its Just Near It?? PLS Dont Quote Me If U Are Gonna Lie I Don't Like It
You do not need a pic, what you need is proof.

Help yourself here:
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2015/july-august/melinda-gates-high-price-of-faith-action.html

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/bill-gates-it-makes-sense-believe-god


Now, can you post links where bill gates has ever proclaimed atheism

You need not be a desperate liar my friend. grin

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