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plaetton:
Funny.

So , do you think, do you once again delude yourself that atheists here on NAiraland Owe you something, a perfect, flawless treatise on why they don't believe in Your SKYFAIRY ?
Really ?

You are even more delusional than I thought.

Its even funnier you cant read and comprehend.

I dont need any atheist to 'convince me not to believe in God with them'.

Why not make sense.

BuchiPrinzy:
Ask yourself why a sin that two people committed will be on the whole world

No, you tell yourself a better tale explaining the origination of evil in the world.

Or better still, go ask God Himself.

plaetton:
I think Nigeria's major problem is how we think, How we view and create our realities.
Religious bullshytes create an enduring false, delusional, fragmented and haphazard imprint on the thinking patterns of Nigerians as they grow up. It allows you, just like I reminded kingebukasblog, to define reality, be it scientific ideas, moral ideas, economic principles and even political ideas only on your own very narrow terms.

Now that you have liberated yourself from sanity, i can bet that you've only been more of a waste of space. Why not just sit and write to yourself how much help you been to your immediate society since you embraced insanity.

plaetton:
This allows you to tactfully dodge or escape the responsibilities of engaging your intellect to rigorous tasking.

Non of the atheists here is intellectually sound, what you have at best is a bunch of vengeful kids that revere any fool who can support their worthless ideologies. i talk with other reasonable, more mature, soundly educated and open minded atheists and i tell you they give more interesting and solid arguments than these nairaland google students, even though they eventually crumble in their arguments.
Difference is, they are objective.

plaetton:
It also utterly silly, one that highlights the shallow thinking of a religious mind, to repeatedly insinuate that one who does not believe in the existence of the sky fairy or the Tooth fairy, cannot find meaning in the totality of existence.

No one is insinuating anything. If you believe in the toothfairy, good for you!!, find meaning to your life!!.
But please dont drag me down your mud of stupid1ty talking repeatedly about the tooth fairy.

Annunaki:
NL is biased against christianity, today is sunday and one would expect them to post pro christian edifying threads to the front page but alas. Meanwhile on Fridays they are fond of posting pro islam threads to the front page(even though non muslims can't comment on them) and you will never see any thread that exposes the evils of islam on the front page.

Nairaland has no section for christians. That is enough to send you the antichristian message.

The more spirit filled christians go to the religious section, the more they come in contact with worthless ideologies from atheists. Its a serious campaign.

The guy is also an atheist but he sees christianity as a greater threat to islam.

plaetton:
Oh gosh!
Here we go again . They never learn, no matter how many times.

I said to you last week, let me repeat it again.

And you will repeat it next year till your actions say otherwise.

plaetton:
You cannot covert anyone to atheism, simply because it is not a religion.

It definately is. if it isnt, you sure are making it look like one hell of a religion

plaetton:
No atheist here is on a mission to convert anyone.
We are not selling any atheist salvation or atheist heaven.

You dont need to sell heaven,
You are definately selling 'dont believe in God with us, worship yourself alone, make meaning out of a meaningless world and other worthless ideologies

plaetton:
We are just doing our society a favor by coming on public forums to dismantle, mock, push back and roll back the pernicious influences of lethal mythologies.

Again change the bolded to a 'religion section'. If you really cared about its societal influences, you'd be on family, education, politics and other related strongholds of society, to liberate them from sanity.

Boko haram kills people almost everyday, i dont see you on islams section trying to liberate potential terrorists. Maybe favour now has a diferent meaning kid.

plaetton:
Yes, somethings we sow seeds of thought, receptive to those who already have an inner stirring to unyoke from the Lethal mythologies that holds them hostage.

More like seeds of foolishness. The world is a meaningless coincidence, but lets make meaning because humans are meaningful.
You need urgent help.

PastorOluT:
No one is worshiping God in truth out of fear, those that do do not know God. Hell wasnt made for man bt the devil, bt for the first rebelion disobedient men are now plunged into same faith as the devil.

NB This is what the bible teaches, save u dont believe the bible?

Seriously, You dont need to reply this people

plaetton:
My time is mine to spend as I like it.
I don't do worthless supplications you call prayers, neither do I do church. That alone frees up plenty of my productive time.
Don't you agree?

I spend my leisure time dismantling lethal mythologies whenever they are presented as facts in a public forum.

Seems to me like your whole life is a leisure time. I just hope you've converted all your folks, except you are only able to man up on social media, which inturn makes you a timid, hurting and hateful coward.

Change the bolded to 'religion section', so that you can see how much of a desperate nuisance you've become.

LoJ:
Hello Winner01. Before we can analyze an opinion, we need to understand that opinion objectively. As far as the definition of Atheism is concerned, I actually think Menesheh is right. Atheism is not the belief that God/gods does not exist, but the refusal to believe in the existence of God/gods. Both psycho-activities are not synonymous. There is actually a world of difference between them.

Believing in the non existence of x is different from refusing to believe in the existence of x. If someone believes that xyz does not exist, then he is the one to prove his belief. But when someone refuses to believe in the existence of xyz, it is the responsibility of those who believe in the existence of xyz to prove otherwise.

Two things,
1. menesheh didnt define atheism but equated atheism to secularism.
2. I am not interested in proving anything to any atheist, ill be on an atheist forum if i wanted to.

LoJ:
If you hear about a flying horse, you may rightfully decide not to believe in it, until trustworthy evidence is provided. Then it is up to those who want to convince you at any cost, in order for you to join their worship of the flying horse, to provide the evidence. Therefore, even the most religious man may also be atheist/agnostic as far as another concept of deity is concerned.

Cheers.

Of course, i can decide not to believe it but ill be as foolish as you are to try to convince other people not to believe it.
My kid brother believes in santa claus but ill be foolish to try to disprove his existence to to him, i believe he'll come out of it with time.

@bolded, what do you mean by at any cost. , Why are you desperate to make sense? Who tries to preach christianity at any cost?

As a matter of fact, what you and your brothers do here daily is more like evangelism at all costs. Its like you need us not to believe in a particular God with you.
The way y'all spam christian threads is enough evidence. This thread is a good example of someone thanking God and it still beats me how militant atheists are invited.
Ill be foolish to comment on a thread that someone opens to give thanks to a flying horse.

This is a religion section where religious people are meant to share with other religious peeps, not a section where you or any atheist should be or be converted 'at all costs'(whatever that means).

You see, all these only confirms more and more how atheism badly needs religion amongst others to remain relevant.

plaetton:
Since you neither believe in the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster nor the Toothfairy, pls try to tell us what type of atheism you practice.

The kind of atheism in which ill need to have my brains checked for spending everyday of my life talking about a non existent toothfairy.

You really need to have your brains checked for investing a huge chunk of your time and life, devotedly talking about a 'non existent' God.

cloudgoddess:
This is also very true.

How many of those scientists bagged their degrees from the internet, dolt?

Go to school if you really care about science.

frank317:
And here comes KINGEBUKA the almighty creator's mouth piece. The one who knows the creator. The one who speaks when the creator cannot speak. The one who knows how eternal the creator is.
Oh Kingebuka, one who creator almighty God has bestowed upon, spiritual knowledge to understand how the world started. One who sees beyond the physical. A special son of the creator. Speaking on his behalf and knowing things about the creator no one would.

Hmmm... isn't this Kingebuka just a clown?
.

If you want to hear God. When ever you speak, address God directly.
Whenever you open threads, direct your questions to God not christians.
You cant direct your questions to christians and expect them not to answer you.

How can someone open a thread to show people how thankful he is to God and you come here to say people shoukdnt reply

You keep saying these stale things, i might also need to keep asking you my question;

If you struck Gold, who would you show first?.

cloudgoddess:
That was dumb but you get a pat on the back for trying

You do love dodging questions with irrelevant remarks though so I don't think I'll respond to you anymore. It's getting a bit annoying.

You dont need to respond to me. Go to a real school first.

ValentineMary:
Debating you is a waste of my time dude. Why would I want to waste limited time?

Seems to me like you got time. The amount of time you spend talking about a "non-existent" entity is alarming. Ill need to have my brains checked if I speak so much about santa claus, even though my kid brother believes in him.

SirWere:
A very valid advice. I hate to do this but I will like to appeal to the theists to please also assist any orphan they know

Cc vooks, kingebukasblog, malvisguy212, winner01, etc

People, especially christians should do more to reach out and adopt these kids. You'll be surprised how interesting and beautiful these kids are.
Currently two of my siblings are adopted orphans and i reach out to other orphans as much as i can.
I urge people to do more to assist these kids.

ValentineMary:
All this ur copy and paste does not prove your God did not commit does atrocities.

when you answer the questions in my original reply, ill pass you as fit to debate me.

Till then, farewell.

Yaksson:
is buhari God? dont be A FOOOL, can buhari create live? why are you so shallow in your thoughts? tell me, who created the carbon that made up ur brains? is it buhari? you? or ur parent? or is it God? please tell me, who? that person that created it was the same person that has the right over it, you believe that it is God that killed those youth using those beers but you do not believe that God exist or has power over all? If he has the power to command life( making the beers kill those youth)n does he not have the power to make it? and take it? all sins MUST be punished especially if you are very stupid to mock the most powerful of all (i.e God Himself). no wonder u are an atheist, what else could justify your shallow thinking, comparing men with God!

Relax brother, they have a god in their brains and they equate it with the Almighty God, there is no point arguing with them. In reality, we can only pray for them.
You cant argue them into salvation.


Happy Sunday!!

menesheh:
All of these are logical fallacies. The predominant fallacy is from ignorant. Sorry not meant to offend you.

You try.

NEXT!!!

frank317:
Now that u are through wasting ur time ranting off point. Respond to the op and watch your belief get dismantled as usual.

Like the one wen you dismantle yesterday shey?

menesheh:
Haha you love to spoil show brotherly by these overly copy from a site and paste. I noticed there is no time for you to type on your own.

You even made it known that you don't need to read Through the post but just looking at the headline is pretty ok for you to start posting this long age posts.

Yeah bro, I'm sorry i typed my first reply sef. I should have just filled the page with nice quotes.

When i have some time to spare, we can then go on our usual 7 page argument.

How are you this sunday?

"Maybe the atheist cannot find God for the same reason a thief cannot find a policeman." - Laurence J. Peter

"Among the repulsions of atheism for me has been its drastic un-interestingness as an intellectual position. Where was the ingenuity, the ambiguity, the humanity...of saying that the universe just happened to happen and that when we're dead we're dead?" - John Updike

"In a power hungry, power worshipping society, men label themselves atheist." - Ernest Hemingway

"If God does not exist, then everything is permissible." - Ivan Karamazov in the novel The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoyevsky

"Atheism is indeed the most daring of all dogmas,...[f]or it is the assertion of a universal negative...." - G.K. Chesterton

"The absence of a debate with the foremost apologist for Christian theism is a glaring omission on your CV and is of course apt to be interpreted as cowardice on your part." - Dr. Daniel Came, a member of the Faculty of Philosophy at Oxford University writing to fellow agnostic/atheist Richard Dawkins concerning his refusal to debate Dr. William Lane Craig

"Look at Satan's reason for rebelling against God. It's not that he doesn't recognize that God is greater than he is. He does. It's just that he doesn't want to play by anybody else's rules. This idea that it is better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven is Satan's motto, and it turns out that this is also the motto of contemporary atheists such as Christopher Hitchens." - Dinesh D'Souza


"The real attitude of sin in the heart towards God is that of being without God; it is pride, the worship of myself, that is the great atheistic fact in human life." – Oswald Chambers

"The freethinkers have yet to produce any objections that have not long been refuted most thoroughly. But since they are not motivated by the love of truth, and since they have an entirely different point of view, we should not be surprised that the best refutations count for nothing and that the weakest and most ridiculous reasoning, which has so often been shown to be baseless, is continuously repeated. If these people maintained the slightest rigor, the slightest taste for the truth, it would be quite easy to steer them away from their errors; but their tendency towards stubbornness makes this completely impossible." - Leonhard Euler


"Atheism is a bleak worthless ideology. It robs the brain of reason, the conscience of moral guidance, the mind of tranquility and the soul of hope." - Nana Yiadom, March 11, 2011

"Atheism, the Result of Ignorance and Pride; of strong Senses, and feeble Reason; of Good Eating and Ill Living! Atheism, the Plague of Society, the Corrupter of Manners, and the Underminer of Property!" - Jeremy Collier

"The irony of intolerant atheists is remarkable. They proudly declare their open-mindedness, and in the same breath they work feverishly to extinguish by force any mention of God, any support to theism, in civic life. Are you puzzled by this? Don't be. Censorship is in atheism's marrow... Moreover, atheism cannot withstand reasoned examination. The assertion that everything came from nothing, without reason and without moral law, isn't defensible in rational discourse, so silent assent is necessary to hold sway over culture." - Michael Egnor

"I will make a prediction, right here and now.... The number of people identifying as atheists will stagnate or even shrink, because organized atheism is happily in the process of destroying itself with regressive social attitudes, scandals, and their bizarre focus on irrelevant metaphysical differences that don’t help people...Unless we change. - Atheist PZ Myers, On September 27, 2014 in a blog post entitled The Atheist Disillusionment


"...I don’t object to bestiality in a very limited set of specific conditions..." - the atheist and evolutionist PZ Myers, Atheism and bestiality

"God is dead not because He doesn’t exist, but because we live, play, procreate, govern, and die as though He doesn’t." - Chuck Colson

"An irreligious man, a speculative or practical atheist, is as a sovereign who voluntarily takes off his crown and declares himself unworthy to reign. - John Stuart Blackie

“If mainstream freethought and humanism continue to reflect the narrow cultural interests of white elites who have disposable income to go to conferences then the secular movement is destined to remain marginal and insular.” - Atheist Dr. Sikivu Hutchinson

The truth of God's existence is the benchmark from which all landmarks are located. The truth of God's existence is the foundation on which all truth rests. God existed before evil existed, and God will exist after evil is confined in outer darkness.... To deny the existence of God is an act of insanity so severe that God says that person is a fool (Psalm 14:1; 53:1). - Dr. Joseph Thomas Kennedy

"Claiming that God does not exist, or that He is dead, is the expression, not of truth, but of hope, for nothing would please the unregenerate heart more than to be rid of God." - Dr. Joseph Thomas Kennedy


"Most societies or communities that have espoused atheistic beliefs have not survived more than a century...What I found was the complete lack of a single case of a secular population, community or movement that would just manage to retain replacement level." - Michael Blume, a researcher at the University of Jena in Germany on the fertility rate of atheistic societies

"Readers familiar with Reddit’s atheism community, r/atheism, may not be surprised to learn that I think it exemplifies many negative aspects of modern atheism — hatred, prejudice, and belief by cultural conformation rather than rational inquiry." - Vlad Chituc.

"I find that contemporary atheists take great umbrage at the biblical claim that God holds people to be morally culpable for their unbelief. They want to maintain their unbelief in God without accepting the responsibility for it. ...unbelief is a choice. It is a choice to resist the force of the evidence and the drawing of God’s Holy Spirit. The unbeliever is like someone dying of a fatal disease who refuses to believe the medical evidence concerning the efficacy of a proffered cure and who rejects the testimony of his doctor to it and who, as a result, suffers the consequence of his own stubbornness. He has no one to blame but himself." - William Lane Craig

"And who can deny that Stalin and Mao, not to mention Pol Pot and a host of others, all committed atrocities in the name of a Communist ideology that was explicitly atheistic? Who can dispute that they did their bloody deeds by claiming to be establishing a “new man” and a religion-free utopia? These were mass murders performed with atheism as a central part of their ideological inspiration, they were not mass murders done by people who simply happened to be atheist." - Dinesh D’Souza


"The atheists are for the most part impudent and misguided scholars who reason badly who, not being able to understand the Creation, the origin of evil, and other difficulties, have recourse to the hypothesis the eternity of things and of inevitability." - Voltaire

"A man that is endued with the powers of reason, by which he is capable of knowing, serving, glorifying, and enjoying his Maker, and yet lives without God in the world, is certainly the most despicable and the most miserable animal under the sun." - Matthew Henry

"No man will say, There is no God till he is so hardened in sin that it has become his interest that there should be none to call him to account." - Matthew Henry

"Atheists put on false courage and alacrity in the midst of their darkness and apprehensions, like children who, when they fear to go in the dark, will sing for fear." - Alexander Pope

"An atheist’s most embarrassing moment is when he feels profoundly thankful for something, but can’t think of anybody to thank for it" - Mary Anne Vincent

If there were no God there would be no atheists. - G. K. Chesterton


"Nobody talks so constantly about God as those who insist there is no God." Heywood Broun

“He was an embittered atheist, the sort of atheist who does not so much disbelieve in God as personally dislike Him.” - George Orwell, Down and Out in Paris and London

"God exist whether or not men may choose to believe in Him. The reason why many people do not believe in God is not so much that it is intellectually impossible to believe in God, but because belief in God forces that thoughtful person to face the fact that he is accountable to such a God." - Robert A. Laidlaw

"'It's an interesting view of atheism, as a sort of crutch for those who can't bear the reality of God.'" - Tom Stoppard

"I gave in, and admitted that God was God." - ex-atheist C.S. Lewis, On relinquishing atheism at age 31

"I was at this time of living, like so many Atheists or Anti-theists, in a whirl of contradictions. I maintained that God did not exist. I was also very angry with God for not existing. I was equally angry with Him for creating a world." - C.S. Lewis

"In his book Modern Times, the historian Paul Johnson referred to Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini as the three devils of the twentieth century. Interestingly, Nietzschean dogma influenced each of them." - Ravi Zacharias

"The atheist risk everything for the present and the future, on the basis of a belief that we are uncaused by any intelligent being. We just happen to be here. That one is willing to live and die in that belief is a very high price to pay for conjecture." - Ravi Zacharias

In his essay rebutting a work of atheist Jeffery Jay Lowder Christian apologist JP Holding wrote the following: "...I find that there is no such thing as "reasonable nonbelief." The litany of excuses, wild speculations, and other absurdities ground out by skeptics and critics doesn't deserve the adjective "reasonable"."


"[S]upposing all the great points of atheism, as the casual or eternal formation of the world, the materiality of a thinking substance, the mortality of the soul, the fortuitous organization of the body, the motions and gravitation of matter, with the like particulars, were laid together and formed into a kind of creed, according to the opinions of the most celebrated atheists; I say, supposing such a creed as this were formed and imposed upon any one people in the world, whether it would not require an infinitely greater measure of faith, than any set of articles [of faith] which they so violently oppose?" - Joseph Addison, The Spectator

"It is hard to see how a great man can be an atheist. Without the sustaining influence of faith in a divine power we could have little faith in ourselves. We need to feel that behind us is intelligence and love. Doubters do not achieve; skeptics do not contribute; cynics do not create. Faith is the great motive power, and no man realizes his full possibilities unless he has the deep conviction that life is eternally important, and that his work, well done, is a part of an unending plan." - Calvin Coolidge, speech

"Now, nothing can be brought from potentiality to actual existence except through something actually existing...." - St. Thomas Aquinas

"He complained in no way of the evil reputation under which he lived, indeed, all over the world, and he assured me that he himself was of all living beings the most interested in the destruction of Superstition, and he avowed to me that he had been afraid, relatively as to his proper power, once only, and that was on the day when he had heard a preacher, more subtle than the rest of the human herd, cry in his pulpit: "My dear brethren, do not ever forget, when you hear the progress of lights praised, that the loveliest trick of the Devil is to persuade you that he does not exist!" - Charles Baudelaire's short story, "The Generous Gambler" written in 1864

"Christianity founds hospitals, and atheists are cured in them, never knowing they owe their cure to Christ." - William Temple

"Atheism is a disease of the mind caused by eating underdone philosophy" - Austin O'Malley


"Still, even the most admirable of atheists is nothing more than a moral parasite, living his life based on borrowed ethics. This is why, when pressed, the atheist will often attempt to hide his lack of conviction in his own beliefs behind some poorly formulated utilitarianism, or argue that he acts out of altruistic self-interest. But this is only post-facto rationalization, not reason or rational behavior." - Vox Day

"These days, barely a week passes without the emergence of yet more evidence that atheists are the most irritating people on Earth." - the atheist Brendan O'Neill, The Telegraph, "How Atheists Became the Most Colossally Smug and Annoying People on the Planet", August 14th, 2013


"One of the things that made me suffer no regret when I was called away from the cramped intellectual jail of atheism into a wider and more wonderful world, was my growing conviction that my fellow atheists were shallow, men without insight into real human nature." - ex-atheist and science fiction writer John C. Wright

"Opposition to godliness is Atheism in profession and idolatry in practice. Atheism is so senseless and odious to mankind that it never had many professors." - Sir Isaac Newton

"Some atheists are quite explicit that their atheism comes first. One of the most famous is Richard Lewontin, a professor of genetics, who said it wasn't science that compelled him to accept a materialistic explanation of the universe. It was an a priori materialism." - John Lennox

"Worldwide, the march of religion can probably only be reversed by a renewed, self-aware secularism. Today, it appears exhausted and lacking in confidence... Secularism's greatest triumphs owe less to science than to popular social movements like nationalism, socialism and 1960s anarchist-liberalism. Ironically, secularism's demographic deficit means that it will probably only succeed in the twenty-first century if it can create a secular form of 'religious' enthusiasm." - Professor Eric Kaufmann, Birbeck College, University of London, UK

A little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion. - Sir Francis Bacon

God never wrought miracles to convince atheism, because his ordinary works convince it. - Sir Francis Bacon


"The Scripture saith, The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God; it is not said, The fool hath thought in his heart; so as he rather saith it, by rote to himself, as that he would have, than that he can thoroughly believe it, or be persuaded of it....It appeareth in nothing more, that atheism is rather in the lip, than in the heart of man." - Sir Francis Bacon, his essay Of Atheism

"I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being." - Albert Einstein

"There are no reliable connections - whether in logic or history - between atheism, science and liberal values." - Atheist John Gray

"An atheist is someone who is certain that God does not exist, someone who has compelling evidence against the existence of God. I know of no such compelling evidence." - Carl Sagan

"The Seventh Judicial Circuit of the Court of Appeals of the United States held that atheism is a religion. Therefore, it cannot be promoted by a public school. Currently, public schools are often unwittingly promoting atheism through a dogmatic and uncritical teaching of materialistic theories of origins." - John Calvert, Intelligent Design leader

"As far as science goes, science is dependent on the uniformity of nature, or no scientific prediction could be made. Problem is, no atheistic worldview can account for the uniformity of nature, the very foundation of science." - Christian apologist Sye Ten Bruggencate

“It’s important to understand that an atheist is someone who believes the scientific impossibility that nothing created everything. Some fundamental atheists will deny this by trying to redefine ‘nothing’ as being ‘something,’ because such a thought makes them look like a fool, which is precisely what the Bible says that they are (see Psalm 14:1) - Ray Comfort

If God created man, then how could man ever probe God's existence with his created senses. - ME grin

"Plenty of people name their children Christian. No one wants to name their child Atheist." - Anonymous

I can see how it might be possible for a man to look down upon the earth and be an atheist, but I cannot conceive how he could look up into the heavens and say there is no God.--Abraham Lincoln

If God were small enough to be understood, He would not be big enough to be worshiped. --Evelyn Underhill

"How else can you fight God but to pretend He doesn't exist?" - Chris Bowyer

If we were to judge nature by common sense or likelihood, we wouldn't believe the world existed. --Annie Dillard

To sustain the belief that there is no God, atheism has to demonstrate infinite knowledge, which is tantamount to saying, "I have infinite knowledge that there is no being in existence with infinite knowledge" --Ravi Zacharias

Without God man has no reference point to define himself. 20th century philosophy manifests the chaos of man seeking to understand himself as a creature with dignity while having no reference point for that dignity. --R. C. Sproul

I hope for the day when everyone can speak again of God without embarrassment. --Paul Tillich

Those who believe they believe in God but without passion in the heart, without anguish of mind, without uncertainty, without doubt, and even at times without despair, believe only in the idea of God, and not in God himself. --Madeleine L'Engle

A god who let us prove his existence would be an idol. --Deitrich Bonhoeffer

I'm still an atheist, thank God.
Luis Bunuel

If atheism spread, it would become a religion as intolerable as the ancient ones. --Gustave le Bon

You think you are too intelligent to believe in God. I am not like you. --Napoleon Bonaparte

Can one be a saint if God does not exist? That is the only concrete problem I know of today. ?Albert Camus

By night, an atheist half-believes in God. ?Edward Young

If there be a God and one has never sought him, it will be small consolation to remember that one could not get proof of his existence. ?George MacDonald

A creature revolting against a creator is revolting against the source of his own powers--including even his power to revolt...It is like the scent of a flower trying to destroy the flower. --C.S. Lewis

We may seek God by our intellect, but we only can find him with our heart. ?Cotvos

I believe in God as I believe that the Sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. --C. S. Lewis

"Nobody talks so constantly about God as those who insist that there is no God." - Heywood Broun

"If there is a God, atheism must seem to Him as less of an insult than religion." - Edmond and Jules de Goncourt

"Atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning..." - C.S. Lewis

"It is largely because the free-thinkers, as a school, have hardly made up their minds whether they want to be more optimist or more pessimist than Christianity that their small but sincere movement has failed. For the duel is deadly; and any agnostic who wishes to be anything more than a Nihilist must sympathize with one version of nature or the other." - GK Chesterton

"The atheist has no hope." - J.F. Clarke

ValentineMary:
winner01

In other news, now that you've mentioned me, may i make my presence known?



"It is true, that a little philosophy inclineth man's mind to atheism, but depth in philosophy bringeth men's minds about to religion." -Francis Bacon

"If you don't believe in God, all you have to believe in is decency. Decency is very good. Better decent than indecent. But I don't think it's enough."
-Harold Macmillan

"What you don't understand is that it is possible to be an atheist, it is possible not to know if God exists or why He should, and yet to believe that man does not live in a state of nature but in history, and that history as we know it now began with Christ, it was founded by Him on the Gospels."
-Boris Pasternak

"No one can be an unbeliever nowadays. The Christian Apologists have left one nothing to disbelieve."
-Hector Hugh Munro

"An atheist is a man who believes himself an accident."
~ Francis Thompson

"Among the repulsions of atheism for me has been its drastic uninterestingness as an intellectual position. Where was the ingenuity, the ambiguity, the humanity (in the Harvard sense) of saying that the universe just happened to happen and that when we're dead we're dead?"
-John Updike

"Atheism is rather in the life than in the heart of man."
-Francis Bacon

"Atheism is the result of ignorance and pride; of strong sense and feeble reasons; of good eating and ill-living. It is the plague of society, the corrupter of manners, and the underminer of property."
-Jeremy Collier

"A disbelief in God does not result in a belief in nothing; disbelief in God usually results in a belief in anything." -Arthur Lynch

"The only atheism is the denial of truth."-Arthur Lynch

"He who never thirsts for God here, will thirst for Him before he has been dead a minute."- B. North

"The three great apostles of practical atheism, that make converts without persecuting, and retain them without preaching, are wealth, health and power."
-C C Colton

"Atheist's don't exist. If you ask anyone why they are an atheist they will proceed to explain their religion of non belief." -Monksarnn

"An atheist is one who hopes the Lord will do nothing to disturb his disbelief." -Franklin P. Jones

"To doubt is not sin, but to be contented to remain in doubt when God has provided "many infallible proofs" to cure it, is." -Irwin H. Linton

"There is no being eloquent for atheism. In that exhausted receiver the mind cannot use its wings,- the clearest proof that it is out of its element." -Hare

"No man will say, "There is no God" 'till he is so hardened in sin that it has become his interest that there should be none to call him to account." -Mathew Henry

"No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office in the civil departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness in any Court."
-Arkansas State Constitution

"That no religious test ought ever to be required as a qualification for any office of profit or trust in this State, other than a declaration of belief in the existence of God; nor shall the Legislature prescribe any other oath of office than the oath prescribed by this Constitution.” -Maryland State Constitution

"No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office in this state."- Mississippi State Constitution

"The following persons shall be disqualified for office: First, any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God."- North Carolina State Constitution

"No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any office under this Constitution." -South Carolina State Constitution

"No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state."- Tennessee State Constitution

"No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office, or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from holding office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being. -Texas State Constitution"

"No person who acknowledges the being of a God and a future state of rewards and punishments shall, on account of his religious sentiments, be disqualified to hold any office or place of trust or profit under this Commonwealth." -Pennsylvania State Constitution

"Again, I hear almost everyday from atheists who write off religion as primitive, premodern nonsense. I summon Aquinas, Augustine, Paul [of Tarsus], Teresa of Avila, Joseph Ratzinger, and Edith Stein--in all their intellectual rigor--as allies in the the struggle against this dismissive atheism." -Fr Robert Barron.

“If there were no God, there would be no atheists.”-GK Chesterton. (I love this one grin, ive always spoken of the atheists obsession for God)

"The worst moment for the atheist is when he is really thankful, and has nobody to thank."- Dante Gabriel Rossetti

"The atheist can appeal to nothing absolute, nothing objectively true for all people, it is just mere opinion enforced by might. The Christian appeals to a standard outside himself/herself in which truth and qualitative values can be made sense of." -Peter Huff

"There are those who hate Christianity and call their hatred an all-embracing love for all religions."- G.K. Chesterton

"A great many of those who 'debunk' traditional...values have in the background values of their own which they believe to be immune from the debunking process."- C.S. Lewis

"I was at this time of living, like so many Atheists or Anti-theists, in a whirl of contradictions. I maintained that God did not exist. I was also very angry with God for not existing. I was equally angry with Him for creating a world." C.S. Lewis

"God exist whether or not men may choose to believe in Him. The reason why many people do not believe in God is not so much that it is intellectually impossible to believe in God, but because belief in God forces that thoughtful person to face the fact that he is accountable to such a God."- Robert A. Laidlaw

"Atheism is a crutch for those who cannot bear the reality of God. "-Tom Stoppard

"Still, even the most admirable of atheists is nothing more than a moral parasite, living his life based on borrowed ethics. This is why, when pressed, the atheist will often attempt to hide his lack of conviction in his own beliefs behind some poorly formulated utilitarianism, or argue that he acts out of altruistic self-interest. But this is only post-facto rationalization, not reason or rational behavior."- Vox Day

"Atheists are idiots."-The Masked Angel

ValentineMary:
Thanks bro for that nice piece. But am sure guys like winner01, vooks, hcpaul, etc would still want to defend their imaginary friend.

Why do you care about theists this much?
Do you care this much for your family members who are theists?
You invest so much time in others and leave your folks to wallow in their mud of "delusions". Shows you are timid, insecure, confused, unstable and being hateful especially to your folks.

I only needed to read the topic to know that its the same stale rant on a God you don't believe.
And i believe i've asked the following questions on this topic of morality severally with no sensible answer from any atheist.
What is morality?
Where did morality come from?
Couldn't morality also be an indoctrination?
Is there a universal standard for morality?
Did society reach a consensus to define what morality is, putting into consideration the desires/orientation of rapists, ritualists, robbers, paedophiles e.t.c.?
How can we rely on a moral guide passed on to us from ancient stone age men whose level of sanity couldn't be verified.?
Seems to me like you have dropped christianity but are still holding on to its definition of morality, don't ask, i'm sure you've never probed the origination of morality.?
Who is moral.?
How can i be compelled to follow man-made laws which subdue and immobilizes my personal orientations? Isnt that tyranny?


You say we are animals on one hand, and then tell us that we are naturally good even when evidence proves the contrary https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8EC0A1C97517C929


If morality is subjective as the atheist believes, then no human (none atall) can ever make sense on what is good and what is not as long as i'm pleased with what i'm doing.
Every thing is permissible because what you consider good might be bad to an assassin.
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/peoplegood.html

A more reasonable atheist has made a great point in the picture below. This world is a causeless and meaningless coincidence right, then why try to make meaning of the meaningless?


And menehsheh; Atheism has caused more havoc than all religious groups put together.
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atrocities.html

You're screwed. Lets just survive airheads. !!!

hahn:
Of course I DON'T believe it buy YOU do

I am only using your logic. If your god created everything then it is responsible for everything including Lucifer's sin. Therefore, not only is it incompetent, it is also narcisstic, irresponsible, sadistic and useless.

But then again it is only a figment of your imagination

Congratulations to you.

Atheists have been responsible for more havoc than all religions put together!!!!!

hahn:
I just read through that link. Pretty interesting stuff.

However, your god created everything and as such it is responsible for the atrocities it's creations perpetrate. Unless it is high on some cheap weed then it is safe to say it is nothing but confused.

Werey.

@bolded, but u dont believe this na?
Atheist and their dubious way out of everything.

Take back your original quote.

Thrash!!!!
You can post topics defaming christianity all you want. We know how Jesus responded to prostitutes.

Why not move more edifying and reasonable topics to Fp?


Sound christians already know what is going on and nothing will seperate us from the love of Christ.

The Creator of the universe is not bound by His created laws.

otipoju:
many boys are not interested in all these grammar ooo...they just want to release

The realization of these lies can make those boys become men.

lepasharon:
How convenient that your religion is the right one OP ! Three points for you !

Relax, then read again slowly.