PrinceofSarcasm:
Hmmm if this is true real and not the usual media trials we have seen in the past then I will stan Tinubu .

If for the first time we have sincere persecution of corrupt looters who stole Nigeria's money then I will become the world's strongest tinubu supporter.

If for the first time we have true unbiased persecution of looters and they are sent to jail not Orji uzor kalu type of jail where they are still.paid salary but real jail then truly I will become the world's top Tinubu fan. I will change my daughter's name to Tinubu and I will use my.money to print 1.million I love Tinubu tshirts and share in different states .

But alas we all know this is all fake drama to distract from bad governance. When since 1999 has any corrupt official been made to face the law? When even the judges are corrupt?

The fact is tinubu has too much corrupt bagages to persecute.anyome sincerely. Look at Betha Edu's case. In any honest sincere country by now she would have been in handcuffs because the evidence is overwhelming. But this is Tinubu government so she is free. Forget all these noise true governance doesn't need media to talk. You will just wake up to see arrested bot media telling you efcc said they will do this and that.

It's all lies.

Same sentiments here. I have been an ardent critic of Tinubu because of his shady past, but I am beginning to have a change of mind. I am impressed by the way he is tackling corruption. This is the first time since Obasanjo that an administration is tackling high ranking members of its own administration in issues of corruption without any political undertones. I supported buhari mainly because of his anti corruption image only to be disappointed at the end of the day. He ended up being worse than Jonathan.

I will continue to watch Tinubu to see if he will maintain the tempo and actually prosecute high ranking politicians including those close to him and former governors who have lost immunity.
Tinubu could end up being a blessing to Nigeria.

HausaIgboYoruba:
All praise be to God! Thank you Tinubu for not influencing the Supreme Court. For this singular act, I will vote you in 2027!

Tinubu would not have been able to control the Riots should the supreme court give victory to APC. Kano people no dey hear words o and dey no de fear death. Tinubu could not afford to add another crisis to the myriads of security challenges beseting the country.

Racoon:
Why should the electorate suffer for the iberiberism of INEC?
This is a long settled case.

Then how do you explain the Amaechi case where the party nominated Celestine Omeha but the supreme court installed Amaechi who did not even contest the election?

Yungdragon:


My issue with this is that why would the whites do a BBC do a documentary, where did they get there facts , who talked to them and who did they interview? Just put out a documentary like that
They should be sued

These are allegations that have been swirling around the media for over a decade. BBC is the best organisation to investigate and carry such a story, as many British nationals are affected. Local media houses and their journalists would have their safety jeopardised if they dare attack someone as rich and worshiped as TB Joshua. You can feel the anger of some of his fanatics here.

Kobojunkie:
Kept quiet ke? Before you post anything else.... check the following attempts made to reveal the man dating as far back as 2009 here in Nairaland alone.

https://www.nairaland.com/270874/t.b-joshuas-miracle-fake-unverifiable#3849234
https://www.nairaland.com/394395/tb-joshua-country/3#5536846
https://www.nairaland.com/5276232/pst-biodun-bisola-evil-motivated#79852869
https://www.nairaland.com/3500873/man-tb-joshua#51625150
https://www.nairaland.com/767191/tb-joshuas-secret-exposed-ex-muslim/5#45986110
https://www.nairaland.com/858513/ashawos-atempt-seduce-tb-joshua#10080579
https://www.nairaland.com/819463/must-watch-tb-joshuas-evil#9710765
https://www.nairaland.com/792409/tb-joshuas-critics-pharisee-chronicle#9443131
https://www.nairaland.com/779122/bisola-johnson-red-light-district#9314025
https://www.nairaland.com/768372/paid-lie-against-pastor-t#9268027

And you think sheep can't think for itself? A sheep can only follow its shepherd to the slaughter House, bleating gleefully while being slaughtered.

No matter the evidence, even if you show live video of TB Joshua raping a 12 year old girl, they will rush to his defense with their lives. We have seen this with Jim Jones, we have seen this with David Koresh, we have even seen this with our own reverend King, whose church is still going strong despite him being on death Row.

Edusouls:
LGTBQ people from the west don come again, what are they looking for in this man of God that impacted millions of life and helped millions all over the world? Or because he is a Blackman? Why is all these fake allegations coming out now after this wonderful man has gone to rest after finishing his earthly work?

Stop worshiping a fellow mortal like you. Michael Jackson is considered one of the greatest musical icon in our time, that did not excuse him from answering allegations of sexual abuse of minors.
You can use LBGTQ as an excuse to justify all alleged crimes.

clefstone:
I only wish the documentary was done when the man was still alive

Emman08:
The man is gone. He can't defend himself nor be pronounced innocent or guilty.

These allegations are not new. In fact these allegations have been in the media for close to 10 years. Paul Agomoh who was his number 2 man and started the ministry with him made these allegations when the fell out about 8 years ago. Bisola also came out to speak publicly about how she was raped and how T.B. Joshua raped three little sisters along with other girls in 2016 or thereabout, TB Joshua sheep came for her head then. So it's a surprise that his sheep are behaving as if they just heard these allegations.

Sheep will always be sheep.

Obrigardo:
Pedophiles Alert!

https://nypost.com/2024/01/08/news/new-batch-of-jeffrey-epstein-court-documents-are-released/

I am certain someone as shrewd as Epstein had the tapes of all his clients, and that was why he was murdered. I am also sure that was why he got the sweetheart deal when he was first arrested.

Jackie999:
Hi all.

I want to start off with a few important pointers/ disclaimers.

1. I am NOT Nigerian and do not claim to know everything about Nigeria.
2. Please do not be xenophobic or rude to me. I'm not strong enough lol
3. I will be as respectful as possible💞
4. I'll call the man in the story "Sam"

Okay so I'm a lady from a Southern African country. I met a Nigerian man who came here for "japa"/ "looking for better opportunities". I met him after he had arrived within 2months. I was walking into the club with my friends and he was in a vehicle with his friends. The driver stopped me to greet and he said hello. Sam greeted me and the driver asked for my number on his behalf lol. It was cute.

First thoughts, he was handsome in the face but definitely not anyone I'd be interested in talking to. He was unkept and clearly struggling financially just from his appearance. Anyway, he called that night to see if I'd be willing to chill with him and his friends, and I agreed. They came back around. He came into my car but I was put off by him telling me I'm so beautiful, calling me babe and saying "I'd wish to kiss you". Omg I was sooooo freaked out. Anyway I told him to leave my car and never call me again. Within an hour, my car's tyre burst ON THE flipping HIGHWAY😲. I called my father but he was almost 2 hours away so I called him and he came within 20minutes. Him nd his brothers came and fixed it for me.

From that day, we spoke and discussed every single day. I had never been with a Nigerian man or any serious relationship before but I liked him. I supported him financially for the longest time because I saw potential in him. I bought him his firs new clothes here, took him to all the nice places, and helped him with personal hygiene etc. I saw him as a friend. He is genuinely a good good person and I fell for his soul. His just so normal and pure. I am considered pretty, intelligent and independent so I won't lie and say that I can't find anyone else but he has my heart tbh.

Everything was going good but after 3months of being together everyday, he obviously wanted the Bleep. It was such a huge deal for me because I take that seriously. But anyway our relationship progressed in that direction - positively.

He would share the little money he had with me and food with me etc if I had recklessly spent my money etc lol. I was giving him a salary to start a business. Mind you, I studied psychology and I'm smart enough to know when I'm being scammed just because I'm a paranoid/anxious detective type naturally 🙈 anyway, we had the most incredible times and I know without a Shadow of a doubt he loves me.

Fast forward 2 months then I find that he is married with 3 kids. I knew about the kids - after finding out. Buti understand why he'd be hesitant to share that. My father is from a polygamous home so I do have strong feelings about that arrangement and single probably thought it's a bad idea to tell me. Well I found out, I was upset af. But I got over it. He never forced me to or anything but I genuinely thought I'd figure it out.

Well it's been 3 years. We have NEVER argued once about anything. We have the most compatible personalities. His calm, sweet and soft spoken. Same with me. His business is doing good and he has put me on a salary as I resigned, and want to start a business.

Nigerian men are the hill I'm willing to die in lol. I had Nigerian friends in the past (Yoruba) but Igbo men are just built different. They're natural born providers. I have access to his phones and vice versa. He knows everything about me and so do I. Including his marital issues (which are unfortunately plenty).

I know my family would not accept me marrying him although my mom adores him. My father would probably have a heart attack. They worked hard for us to be very well balanced, mentally strong women so I'm so surprised that I landed up in this position. I have an incredible family and lack nothing. Financially, emotionally, mentally... Everythingally...my family is able to provide.

Maybe because his my first actual relationship, I am failing to see the big picture. Truth is... I know he'll forever care for me but I also know that his wife only loves him for money, and uses his children against him. She literally told him she'd use juju on him and deny him access to the children if he leaves her.

I thought it'd be easy. Divorce in my country is so accessible and in a situation where a husband has suffered immeasurable abuse from a woman, he definitely has grounds to divorce her. Mind you, I know this because I went through his old messages from 8+ years ago and she was always berating him, accusing him, being hot and cold etc. She's so ungrateful and her only obsession is money. She compared him to Obi Cubana😅 calling out his supposed incompetence. Well I don't know, men aren't just money. They're people with feelings and lives, they deserve love regardless.

For an example, we bought his dad motorcycle and she complained that her dad didn't get one 😩 him and I are now financially good and blessed but I know deep in my soul that I cannot be a second wife.

This post is because I broke up with him yesterday and I know for a fact his not allowed to divorce since this was a marriage introduced by his dad. She has a child from another relationship but nobody even knows. I mean she's a liar liar. He knows but his family don't. And the kids is like 15.

Anyway, I wasn't to know what you guys think of this situation. Just chat honestly. I know he won't divorce and she would kill him but I also don't know what it's like to be a second wife or partner to a Nigerian. It sounds like a really bad idea because I like being the only one for my baby.

Normally I don't comment on relationship issues, but I see you are a beautiful soul, but you are also confused and conflicted. Besides, I don't like the bashing and bad name Nigerian men are receiving. So I am writing this advice to stop you from making a grave mistake and to redeem the image of Nigerian men.

Before I start let me give you a fundamental advice.
You happiness should be your utmost concern and goal - not your family, not societal norms, not what others think. It your life, and only you will suffer the consequences of your decisions.

Having gotten that of my chest, my candid advice is to Marry him (as an second wife) if certain conditions are met.

Let me give my reasons.
First of all Nigerian men are very hard working men. They can do almost anything to make it - both legally and illegally. Now most take the legal route, a few take the illegal way.

The main reason Nigerian men japa is to make it. Opportunities for making it in Nigeria is very slim and so they need to japa to countries with better opportunities. Now, to find your foot in foreign lands, you need help, and the most sure and reliable help is a relationship. A love relationship with a fairly well to do lady will provide the stability and financial start up to quickly make it. This was where you came in. You help the guy start up and he is now in a very stable financial position. In a few years he will even be 10 times better off than he is today. To me it does not make sense for you to leave now after investing so much resources and emotions on him. Believe me if you stick with him, you will reap bountifully from him both financially, emotionally and family wise.

Now let's get back to the polygamy concerns. Even though polygamy is undesirable and presents its own challenges, it's a fact of life. Over half of marriages experiences either direct polygamy or indirect one. The indirect one is the issue of side chicks/ mistresses and baby mamas. These indirect polygamy is as old as time itself. It's only hidden in western nations. One way the west hides polygamy is by making divorce relatively easy. In europe and the US a woman can divorce and remarry another person within a year. In Nigeria and in most African societies divorce is very difficult and tedious. The two families are involved, it involves ceremonies and the return of bride price. Even the courts frown at divorce. Divorced women and their families are stigmatised.

Anyway my final advice is to sit down with the guy and give him conditions for you to agree to marry him. You marriage is in South Africa and the other one is in Nigeria - the two should never mix. I hope the Nigerian marriage is traditional only and yours should be court wedding. Court wedding supercedes traditional marriage in terms of rights. Properties and assets obtained in the course of your marriage in South Africa should be jointly owned and controlled.

I had a neighbour that was in this exact situation. The husband japa to the US and married into a rich family without revealing to the US wife he was already married with 2 kids in Nigeria. When the US wife eventually got to know, she did not divorce him. She only laid the ground rules I listed above. Today they are stinking rich and everybody is happy.

I know I am not making sense and many feminists will come for my head.

Hotice085:


That is why you very mumu and remain jobless, of the problem the police has to solve yours is to make journalist scape goats if you were the police boss
Omo you mumu o no be small

No mind am, just yesterday bandits killed six innocent traders in Kaduna going about their legitimate business, him no go find scapegoat there, na journalists be him main problem to scapegoat.

https://www.nairaland.com/7959586/terrorists-kill-six-traders-katsina

joseph1832:
I don't know what actually transpired between the Nigeria police and gistlover, but, if I was at the helm of affairs of the Nigeria police, I'll make a scape goat of the editor(s) of gistlover.

But you will not make scapegoat of the Jos terrorists that murdered hundreds, not even a statement of efforts to catch them. You will not make scapegoats of kidnappers that have taken over our expressways and have now moved into the city. You will not make scapegoat of politicians stealing the country blind with reckless abandon. Its bloggers and editors that you want to waste limited money, resources and personnel to be making scapegoat.

Even the FBI with 100 times the budget of EFCC and police do not have time to be running after small time 419 boys and romance scammers in the US, but here the police and EFCC waste all their time and energy running after small boys doing romance scams.

Bulldozer90:
Shouldn't that be a civil case. If someone made a criminal complaint against them,why are they being paraded?

Me I know be lawyer o, but I no see the crime. What exactly is cyber stalking, and where is it stated in our criminal statutes.
To my understanding, the worst they can be charged for is libel, which is a civil offence and not a criminal one, but then I am unlearned.

DuBLINGreenb:
Dem done dey use Nigerian slang

Restructuring, tactical withdrawal, maneuvering all na the same run

Una wan run abi una no wan run ?

Dem done dey pack bag dem dey lie give us. Like person wey wan travel abroad. Tomorrow you wake up see their picture for WhatsApp and Facebook dem done japa
Wetin dem go tell you na : “na God”

Me, I no know book o, so I no understand all the turanshi dem write, but with the small warri pidgin wey I understand, watin I understand be say, dem want stop production in Nigeria and begin importation instead. Dem want covert their factories to warehouses. Na so Michellin Restructure too.

tsinzu:

Donald Trump was cleared of any wrong doing by the witnesses

How did what you posted clear Trump of anything.
The person said "I can't remember" and you scream eureka, he cleared Trump of any wrong doing. MAGAs have filters in their eyes and ears that filters out any negative report on Trump and converts it to positive before their brains process the information.

Over 24 women have come out to accuse Trump of rape. They cannot process that. Many have taken him to court. He was found liable in one of the cases. One of the Jane Does accused Trump and Epstein of raping her and actually took the case to court, but withdrew the case suddenly just before the 2016 elections ( remember hush payments). Trump himself said outlined his relationship and friendship with Epstein - “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump booms from a speakerphone. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side". MAGAs brains are incapable of processing such information. It's only Clinton that they can process.

Obrigardo:


Meanwhile your criminal god is cited multiple times in the Epstein flight logs.

You have no shame, idiot.

I said it before Clinton, criminal trump, , rfk jnr and all other pedophiles should face the wrath of the children they have destroyed.

But you don't have the moral standing to say the same. What a sad pathetic human being you are.

For a MAGA to say anything against Trump, You are asking for the impossible. He could "Grab dem by the pusssy" in broad day light in the middle of 5th avenue, they would worship him more. Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Alan Dershowitz and others are birds on the same feather in terms of promiscuity, but Fox News and MAGA will try to exonerate Trump while crucifying Clinton.

basilico:


More credence that the indictment of Trump is a complete sham. Jack Smith files a motion preventing trump from.introducing additional evidence to what Jack ha gathered. How rich. You are charged, exculpatory evidence is kept from the jury. The court ivit grants him this effort means only that Jack's evidence is the only one to be considered.
If there is evidence that feds were active in the crowd formenting chaos , then he does not want the jury to see that..
As one example Jack' an Colorado quote Trump saying " fight like hell' as evidence he told the crowd to be violent. They skip a major thing he exhorted his supporters to march and protest peacefully. Again fight like hell never means go rough things up.
At the same time Twitter deleted a tweet from Trump telling his supporters to go home once the chaos got out of hand.

Another wacky crazy claim by maga. Jack Smith never (and could never in the US justice system) ask the court to prevent Trump from presenting actual evidence. What Jack smith is asking for is for him to present argument and evidence to defend the allegations against him, and not take the court through the same baseless claims he has been spewing in campaign speeches. Jack Smith doesn't want the case to become a political or campaign argument. It will derail the whole court case.

As the special counsel’s motion put it, Trump’s defense should be barred from “raising irrelevant political issues or arguments in front of the jury. … In addition to being wrong, these allegations are irrelevant to the jury’s determination of the defendant’s guilt or innocence, would be prejudicial if presented to the jury, and must be excluded.”

What counts as “irrelevant political issues or arguments”? Well, Smith wants the judge to bar Trump from offering 10 different forms of evidence at the trial, virtually all of them foreshadowed by Trump’s messaging to the public.

For example, Smith noted that “the defendant has signaled his intention to blame the events of January 6 on the Capitol Police, National Guard, and the District’s Mayor.” He asked Judge Chutkan to bar Trump from doing so during his trial.
As Smith writes: A bank robber cannot defend himself by blaming the bank’s security guard for failing to stop him … and the defendant cannot argue that law enforcement should have prevented the violence he caused and obstruction he intended.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/12/trump-special-counsel-jack-smith-january-6-trial-motion.html

You think if Trump have actual evidence to defend himself, you think fox news and other right wing Conservative media would not have inundated us with them.

basilico:


You get paid to lie I think. Or you are simply brainwashed.

Ray Epps violently ushed a sign towards capitol police.
As the sign passed over people's heads, several people touched it.
FBI charged several with aiming an enormous battering ram at law enforcement.Ray Epps is the guy who pushed it ,others were jailed for his actions.



Trump supporters are serving prison sentences for touching a massive Trump sign that was moved toward police at a barricade. Several video angles show Epps holding the signshing this sign directly at police and then pushing the crowd as the sign moved toward the police line."

Anyone who touched the sign — an enormous battering ram,” according to prosecutors — was denied bond and subject to lengthy prison sentences. With the exception of Epps.

I tried to avoid arguing with you because it's like arguing with a pre-recorded message. You just spew one baseless and crazy claim to another. Once the claims are debunked, you search the inner part of the Internet for crazy right wing sites that spew even crazier claims.
I honestly believe your desperation goes beyond Trump worship, there most be some financial motivation involved.
The Ray Epps conspiracy claims is now about sign (I don't even understand what sign you are talking about), but if it's about the flag he was holding, several thousand people came with flags. A few uses the flag pole to assault police officers and were prosecuted appropriately. If Ray Epps assaulted a police officer and was not charged, that's not even evidence that he is an undercover FBI agent with a mission to disrupt the congress from certifying the election.

Ray Epps has taken Fox to court. They now have the opportunity under oath to present their evidence that Ray Epps was ever an FBI agent. Even you MAGA crazies can use the FOI act to request his employment history or ask the court subpoena his employment history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYECfOR_XIA?si=bDxGYGnJzebD_svS

You crazies make it seem as if the FBI (under Trump) was out to get Trump and his supporters. You make it seem that it's the FBI that is the prosecutor, judge and jury, that sentences any US citizen (or MAGA) they don't like. I won't be surprised if you crazies also accuse the whole US judiciary of being part of the deep state against Trump.

bemeruca:


Sure... But was part of the riot. A lot of people who were not close to the capitol building was arrested. Keep supporting a maga and claiming you are not supporting him tds

About 10,000 people entered (trespassed) the Capitol grounds, of this number only about 1200 that entered the capitol building itself were prosecuted.
See more details here.

As of October 13, 2021, more than 100 defendants—of the over 630 individuals charged thus far—had entered guilty pleas.[35] By the end of July 2023, 629 defendants had pleaded guilty, and 129 others went to trial. Of those that went to trial, 87 defendants were convicted of all charges, 40 defendants received mixed verdicts (convicted of at least one charge, and acquitted or a hung jury on at least one charge), and two were acquitted of all charges.[36] Hundreds were still awaiting trial or sentencing.[37]

In February 2021, federal officials estimate that about ten thousand rioters entered the Capitol grounds;[38] in December, the Secret Service and FBI have estimated that about 1,200 ultimately entered the building.[39] As of that October, approximately 250 people were still wanted for assaulting police officers.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_proceedings_in_the_January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack

Ray Epps case was nothing extra ordinary or special.

bemeruca:


Smh

I shake my head for you in shame. A president that organise a protest/riot to stop the certification of an election instead of going through the legal process is not fit to be a president.
Elections in Nigeria are rigged in broad day light, if losers incite his supporters to protest/riot to prevent INEC from certifying the results, we will not gave a country today.

Trump worship is a disease of the mind, worse than schizophrenia.

bemeruca:


No, he is a living proof that the feds was behind what was happening. They charged grandma tom for trespassing but the FBI is doing everything they can to hide evidence about a man who is believed to be a plant in the crowd. Everyone started talking about him when the FBI had no interest in going after the man who was on video asking people to storm the capitol building.

Ray eps does not deflect from trump, he is only an evidence of actors in the crowd.

TDS does not make you think straight.

If the left wing media and you and your TDS friends are defending the most prominent figure asking people to storm the building, then he is a fed. People who took photos at the steps of the building got charged. As long as the media is saying leave a MAGA alone who was part of the riot tells you all you have to know

Ray Epps did not step into the Capitol building. He only trespassed on the grounds of the Capitol. That's why his own charge was a lesser degree than others that actually broke into the Capitol building itself and started vandalising the legislative chambers. If the FBI should charge all those that trespassed on the Capitol grounds, the figures would be in the thousands, possibly close to 10,000.

bemeruca:


I am calling your Party analogy bad because it does not apply to this situation.
He asked them to make their voices heard and be peaceful. You cannot peacefully stop a process where there are guards. He never asked them to stop any process.

Lies. You guys can lie even in the face of clear video and audio evidence.

So provide evidence where he asked them to stop the process.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh3cbd7niTQ?si=qKZ0bcv2WGSg0j32

bemeruca:


Why are you guys supporting him? He was caught, right? People called him what he is. Is he a fed? They ask! Why is he the one that you guys are defending? Was his hat abamade?

Filing a defamation lawsuit does not mean he did not do what he was doing. The question I am putting to you is: If people are locked up for asking people to riot and storm the building, something Trump did not do but you're claiming he did because of Trump Derangement Syndrome, yet the one man who was on video doing it is the one man y'all are supporting, then Zendi is 100% correct.

No one is supporting him. Most people had not even heard of him until you guys brought up his name.
In am desperate attempt to defend trump and exonerate him from planing and executing the January 6 coup, you guys spawn all sorts of conspiracy theories. First it was antifa that organized and carried out the Riots. When there was no iota of evidence, you guys switched to FBI. Fox news and Tucker Carlson then brought up a certain Ray Epps as an FBI mole as being responsible for the violent attack on the Capitol.
All these claim without an iota of evidence. The only evidence Tucker Carlson presented were video clips of Ray Epps urging rioters to go into the Capitol, even though he himself did not enter the Capitol building. Now the same Ray Epps has taken Fox News to court to prove he is an FBI mole and he is responsible for the attack on the Capitol.

Trump on the other hand is being charged for being responsible for January 6 Riots and 3 other illegal efforts to over turn the 2019 elections which he lost. He has the opportunity to defend himself, but instead he and his MAGA worshipers whining like cry babies.

bemeruca:


So this happened in 2020 abi 2021. Why haven't you given them the evidence so they can lock him up?

This is because Trump has been employing his famed delay tactics in slowing the legal process. He has employed his enormous influence to stall every process of the investigations and trial. Even up till now his lawyers are fighting a quick resolution of the various court trials. He is hoping to stall the trials until after the elections and then claim immunity if he wins the presidency.

bemeruca:


The one Maga that was caught asking people to storm the building on video was the one Budaatum CNN and you guys were defending 🤣 he was putting on a Maga hat but you guys love him nonetheless

I hope you are aware that the one Maga that was caught asking people to storm the building whom you Ultra Magas accuse of being an FBI mole has filed a defamation lawsuits against Fox News. So fox news is being provided with opportunity to prove the allegations in court.

DeepSight:


Just listened watched the link. To be fair it does not suggest he thought the SS could be up to any hanky panky. It says he didnt like the optics of him fleeing the capitol.

Please listen again;
"The head of his secret service Tim had said, I assure you we are not going to drive out of the building without your permission. And the Vice President had said something to the effect of, Tim,I know you, I trust you, but you are not the one behind the wheel. "
So you see Mike Pence at that moment did not trust the secret service personnel in his detail.

The coup was well planned but it did not succeed due to the patriotic sacrifice of Congress Police officers and pure luck.
Trump made many contingency plans. The main plan was for the Vice President to reject the original electors and count the fake electors provided by Trump or in the alternative for him to send the electors back to the states, buying time for Trump to manipulate the process. Since Pence failed to go along with the plan, the next contingency was to stop Pence and the Congress from certifying the results through violence. If Pence was killed or injured he would not be in a position to preside over Congress. The next in line - the speaker was also targeted
If she too was killed or incapacitated, then there would be a power vacuum. No Congress, no Vice president, no speaker. Wonder why they went directly for Mike Pence and Nancy Pelosi.
If there was no congress to certify the results and no Speaker to take over on January 20th, Trump continues as President.

DeepSight:


On point. Trumpists are the real evidence for mankind's capacity for worshipful delusion.
However, I didnt know of the bold. Pls shed some light.

The secret service wanted to drive Pence away from the Capitol building at the heat of the Insurrection. He refused to get into the car because he did not trust the secret service personnel driving the car.
https://youtube.com/shorts/C4tivPraEBk?si=3nT_CDj4BewCidDW

If Pence had left the Capitol thar day, the US would have been in a constitutional crisis, because January 6th was the last day for the certification of the elections by Congress. That was exactly what Trump wanted to achieve.

Obrigardo:


Don't be stupid. The evidence we have so far is just too bare and incriminating for the criminal. A stupid and detached from reality comment here does not change that fact.

How many maga cultists are in jail?
How many criminal trump lawyers pleading with prosecutors?
How many GOP congressmen asked criminal trump for pardons before the Jan 6th Insurrection? (Have you asked yourself that - why did they ask for pardons?

There's so much more, but I don't want to waste my time on an idiot .

Fûck all the way off.

MAGAs are conclusive proof that Homo Sapiens have an insatiable urge to worship. They started by worshipping the sun and the planets, they moved to worshipping animals, trees and inanimate objects like stone, statues, mountains, rivers, etc. Finally they ended up worshipping mere mortals - powerful men including evil ones.

MAGAs make every excuse to justify their worship of him. Steve Bannon had hinted us long before the elections that Trump will never concede the elections. (He had never conceded any election he lost or thought he lost). The plan for holding onto power illegally has been in place even before the elections. The plan was to cause chaos during the certification and have the Vice President either recognise Trump's selected electors or have him delay the certification by sending the electors back to the states. What foiled the coup was Pence refusal to go along, and for that MAGAs were ready to hang Mike Pence. Imagine a whole US vice president running for his life from MAGAs and a section of the secret service.
The ppan failed, and instead of Trump to face prosecutions, MAGAs are minimising the coup (some call it Insurrection) and calling it a mere tour of the Capitol.

bemeruca:


wow, you did it all you evidence are solid

Video and audio evidence of your intentions to commit crime is admissible in court.

zendi:
On J6, Trump organized a Rally, not a Riot. However, a number of lawbreakers turned a part of the lawful Rally to Riots and Trespassing. Those who took part in the lawbreaking should be held accountable.
But molehils should be prosecuted as molehills, not as mountains.
Secondly, the organizer of the officially authorized Rally should not be roped into the Riot and Trespassing, modified into Insurrection and/or Coup making.

If Trump and his people were organising a peaceful protest instead of a violent riot, how come Steve Bannon said in thus podcast a day before "all he'll is going to break loose tomorrow"
https://youtube.com/shorts/t7rSZl0u2n4?si=S4GdLgZWJVkcPbDY

How come Rudy Guiliani was advocating for "trial by combat" during his speech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JYEApsKNX4?si=hKFpm4VSqf68sZyF

Then how come Trump said "fight like hell"

NaijaCuzin:
Genoa vs Inter game started by 9pm (20:45) and ended 11pm 22:45 (or 22:50+ injury time)

You played the 80 odds by 11pm (22:42), 97th minute of the game

Clap for yourself

He did not play the 80 odds by 22:42 PM, the game was settled (void) by 22:42 PM.

DeepSight:


It really is good to follow the maxim we were taught in school - "Audi alterem partem" - Always "hear the other side."

As I said earlier, Emeka showed love to his wife and children the best way he could. He sponsored his wife from JAMB to Master's degree, he opened two businesses for her, one being be school since she is a qualified educator. This boy that's is badmouthing Emeka up and down got the best education money can buy in Nigeria. Emeka sent him to Turkish international school, that's one of the most expensive secondary schools in Nigeria. He paid to get him into university in Abuja.
Now you can understand Emeka's frustrations when one day the boy called his father that he no longer wants to continue going to school, but wants to be a musician. To make matters worse the boy is working as a waiter in a restaurant in Lagos. Any Nigerian father that loves his child will be livid.

Yes Emeka overreacted in the audio clip we heard, but the context of the conversation was never revealed. The mother just played the clip to fit her narrative. Why did she not play the whole audio conversation? I am sure the call was a set up. She already knew how Emeka would react and decided to record the conversation of the son telling his father that he has dropped out of school.

I know emeka ika has his own demons as no one is perfect, and no marriage is without its dark cupboard, but the wife is manipulating the children and public against her ex husband to gain sympathy.

Watch this Daddy freeze interview to gain further insights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N7bQOhmKpA?si=6FhQY1EAEhNXM2ON

Zonefree:
Must be skit.

No African mother will reject a successful son unless she's a witch.

The joy of every mother is to see her sons progress.


So, a 22 year old 200 level student should be broke and poor in Nigeria?
I bought my first land in 300 level.

This is the problem with Nigerians. The reason police profile a young boy driving a car as yahoo boy.

Young boys are making money without yahoo. Yahoo is not the only means of making money online.

As a student, learn a skill while studying. Don't always depend on your parents.

You must be a yahoo boy.
So you want to tell me that a mother would not know her son well enough to know his earning capacity. That she was not aware of the skills he has acquired that can make him a millionaire in such a short time.

If this was abroad, they guy will be arrested and told to bring his tax receipts.