Mynd44:

Actually, I don't agree with this.

According to the charge sheet, Bobrisky was charged with Mutilation of Naira noted from charge 1-4. The 5th charge was money laundering as about 170 million Naira was found in one of his accounts.

When he pleaded guilty, the 5th charge was dropped so this whole thing to me was a plea deal. He takes the first 4 charges and does a little time, loses the money and the 5th charge is dropped.

In count five, Bobrisky while trading under the name and style of Bob Express between Sept 1, 2021, and April 4, 2024, in Lagos, failed to submit to the Special Control Unit Against Money Laundering, a declaration of the activities of the said company, (Bob Express), within which period the total sum of N127. 7m was paid into the company account domiciled with Ecobank.

In count six, Bobrisky is also accused of failing to submit a declaration of the activities of the company within the same period when another N53m was paid into the company’s account thereby committing an offence contrary to Section 6(1)(a), and Section 19(1) (f) of the Money Laundering (Prevention And Prohibition) Act and punishable under Section 19 (2) (b) of the same Act.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.channelstv.com/2024/04/04/efcc-to-arraign-bobrisky-for-alleged-money-laundering-on-friday/amp/


As you see, these two charges have most likely been dropped and he gets a slap on the wrist.

I strongly disagree with you. Bobrisky had very poor legal representation. Even if he were to plead guilty, he should not have done so under one week. He should have first taken a no guilty plea, then apply for bail. That would have reduced the urgency and pressure on Bobrisky and his defense. They would now have time to prepare for a proper defense.

The case itself is neither here nor there. The main charge of mutilation of the naira is not tenable, unless the EFCC have videos of Bobrisky tearing or burning the naira.
Then the issue of Money Laundering under Section 6(1)(a), and Section 19(1) (f) of the Money Laundering (Prevention And Prohibition Act is Untenable, why?, because the act was mainly target at financial institutions and designated non-financial businesses. They were to report transactions over $10000 or suspicious transactions to the EFCC, under the KYC regime. Accounts that violate the act was to be put on hold until given clearance by EFCC. I know many people that had to clear their transactions with the banks or EFCC before their accounts were released.
How come Bobrisky was guilty of violating the money laundering act, but Ecobank was exonerated?

It's obvious there was a conspiracy by the EFCC, the judge and probably his lawyers as well, to punish and jail Bobrisky because of his lifestyle, which is abhorrent to most Nigerians.

DeepSight:


There are myriad sociological reasons for this and again, this will take time to even out.

Can you please state the myriads of sociological questions why 2 or more black Africans can't coperate to achieve a common goal? Cany you also explain why the problem of village people or family issue is present only among the blacks particularly southern Nigerians. Once one blackman escapes poverty and join the elite, he would not truly help his family, his clansmen or those closest to him achieve any measurable success outside giving handouts. If just one indian, Chinese or Jews migrate into a place, before you know it, he will bring his whole extended family into his small apartment. They would share everything from cars, food, clothes, etc., and before you know it, they would gradually buy up the whole area. In the case of Nigerian, they would be sabotaging each other.

How do you explain that psychologically and sociologically?

CaveAdullam:


There's no need for any condescension in this discussion.

You and @Raalsalghul are analysing same problem from different angles.

Climate and geography plays a role in the functionality of individuals and development of a nation. Africa is a hot continent, making it inconducive for work and the breeding of many parasites that causes diseases.

One useful sentence I picked from Walter Rodney in his book - How Europe Underdeveloped Africa: the Europeans have a a solid foundation and structure. They were able to conquer and colonized nations as a result of this.
This is where @Raalsaghul is coming from.

If you observed very well, that ancestral organization and structure is still there. Hence, they are on top of the world. They might not be following the template tit for tat, however, the template hasn't been completely ignored.

Regardless, Africans are not zombies. We are still intelligent even though our IQ is the least among the human races known.

But nothing stops us from developing our continent. We have the resources and human capital, however, we're still being dumb. Because we lack organization and structure.

Nations like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, used their oil resource to negotiate with standard oil to develop their nation. If the prince were as dumb like African leaders, Saudi Arabia would have been like Nigeria, Congo, etc.

Britain, America, Singapore, China, etc are the reasons I so much believe that one day Africa will see the light and raise shoulders in the world forum. Because these nations were once like Africa, and even worse.

The way the Black man lives his life makes the enlightened shudder in anger and self-pity. Because how can a race be so backward, ignorant, arrogant collectively. They lack pragmatism. They lack foundation. They lack a framework of operation. Policies are ignored. You'll be ashamed of being Black when you come to this knowledge.

Anyways, the development starts with us in whatever way we can.

Thanks.

I dey gbadun your yarns. I agree with you that climate and disease played a huge role in our underdevelopment. The energy employed just for daily day to day survival leave little for thinking, creativity and acquisition of knowledge. Agriculture was hard in forest areas. Weather was unpredictable and some years have excess rainfall, while in some there was drought.
But...
These conditions no longer exists. There are now mechanised farming, improved seeds and crops and irrigation. It's an embarrassment we cannot feed ourself and have to rely on food imports from Asia and Europe.

About our ancestral organisation and structure, that was destroyed by the colonialists. It had been replaced by those imposes from Europe and to some extend Arabia.

I don't believe on an individual level our IQ is the least among the human races known. The problem is the societal or organisational IQ. Blacks cannot cooperate to achieve a common goal. We cannot build gigantic structures that requires a high level of cooperation by thousands of individuals, ie the Pyramids, the Titanic, the empire state building, etc. We can only excel on individual levels.

DeepSight:


Calm down, Europe was stagnant for 1, 000 years before the Renaissance / Enlightenment. No human population can remain eternally stagnant. Nature and life have ways of prodding and compelling movement.

PS: Haba, @ "Gorilla!" You harsh oh, bros.

Yes, Europe was stagnant for 1000 years, but it was not retrogressing. This was mainly due to religious and political conflicts that were rife at that period. There was the Muslim invasion of Europe started from the 7th century AD, which led to the crusades that lasted until the 13th century. Then there was the mongol invasion of Europe in the 13th century, followed by the Ottoman Empire. It was after relative peace and stability starting from the end of the 14th century that Europe started experiencing progress and development.
Now what's are excuse for remaining stagnant for such a long time until the Europeans came to enslave us. Now after enslavement and colonialism, we seem to the retrogressing as a race and unable to build prosperous and stable societies.
The most annoying to me are Haiti, Guyana and Jamaica. Countries that were handed over to blacks to develop in the middle of the Americas, and we made a mess of them.

Gerrard59:


Na wetin I realise few years ago. Person go think tire con later realise say na only am and few others dey reason like that. I recall when David Hundyein tweeted that in the coming years, whites would not be comfortable with blacks in their midst and the only solution is building a functioning black country in Africa. Even if it means seizing power and just create a functioning black dominated society in Africa.



To be fair, those qualities can easily be implemented in societies where there is a clear dominance by groups which desire those attributes. However, as I write, there exist countries with such dominance, yet dem no dey successful. The thing tire person sha. For instance, see Equatorial Guinea and Gabon. Fine, they are ruled by dictators, but why not implement similar policies like those in the UAE and Qatar? That way, you diversify from oil and attract people from around the world to live, work and play in your countries. No point to reinventing the wheel, just copy and paste. Finish!

Thank God say the tweet by Paul Graham has revealed some of the thoughts white Americans have towards black Africans. I hope more of such revelations happen, maybe some people go develop sense by force.

My brother, I am impressed by your insights. It simply because you are well educated and well travelled. Most black Africans are oblivious of the world around them, ignorant and living a shade off our closest relative, the Gorilla. We are satisfied with just mundane animalistic instincts and sensations like sex, food, drinks and rituals, while the rest of the world are moving ahead with science and technology and building a stable, prosperous and peaceful society. At the rate of our degradation, I don't see the black race surviving the next century. Our culture, land and even physical attributes would have been eroded and assimilated by the whites by then. Today the best of us are migrating to assimilate in Europe and the Americas, while the worst of us are left behind to complete the destruction of the society. Only a brutal awaking, might wake us up of our stupor.

israelmao:


With all his first brain and qualification he has left Kaduna State pooer than before, thousands of contractors are unpaid and his political godson has boldly come out to say loud and clear that he is grappling with payment of workers' salaries on account of huge debt his political godfather left behind.

Exactly! We worship paper qualifications and titles. No wonder people go to great lengths just to acquire degrees and titles without any visible benefits to anyone. These people would not be qualified to manage a district in china.

Richtaiwo:
Nasir Elrufai is a first class product, not only on paper, but also in substance. The sons of dogs insulting him are not qualified to lace his shoes.

So what has the first class product contributed first to his family, then to his community, to his state, to the country and to humanity as a whole? Given he was given various opportunities both in private and government roles. What did El Rufai contribute to Nigerian privatisation process director General of BPE. What did Mallam El Rufai contribute to Abuja as Minister of FCT outside demolishing peoples properties and seizing lands and re-allocating to friends and families? What did El Rufai contribute to Kaduna State as governor for 7 years?
What contributions has he made to the private sector?
Please give me one thing his first class has contributed.

Emyogalanya:
Better than to stand with only Innocent palestinians against Innocent jews. as if the Innocent jews do not deserve justice too

To you it is better to only stand with innocent Israelis than innocent Palestinians. Innocent Palestinians do not deserve justice.

TNORWAY:
no book preach hate reach that paper called Quran

False, the Torah preach as much hate if not more than the Quran.

Righteousness2:
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GOD'S Foreign Policy has not Changed.
You Bless ISRAEL, you are Blessed.
You Curse ISRAEL, you are Cursed.

One thing is sure , GOD ALMIGHTY will Defend HIS land and Save HIS People.
They are gonna pass through crazy hard times( The time of Jacob's troubles) after the RAPTURE. But at the End GOD will save HIS People.

I STAND WITH ISRAEL[/i]

I don't know which one is more blood thirsty and Genocidal, the God of Israel or the God of Ismael? An religion that worships El is Evil. But the God of Rome (Jesus) is supposed to be benign and passifist, but many Nigerians prefers violence and choose to worships the God of Israel in the guise of worshiping the God of Rome.

feedthenation:


Trump Media shares plummet 21% days after debut

(Reuters) -Shares of Donald Trump's social media company plunged 21% on Monday, wiping out the gains from its debut last week, after disclosing millions in losses and saying it would struggle to meet its financial liabilities going forward.

Trump Media & Technology Group lost more than $58 million in 2023, it said in a filing, sending shares reeling less than a week after the Truth Social parent went public through a high-profile blank-check merger.

The stock surged in its March 26 debut to close at nearly $58 a share on retail buyer enthusiasm, including supporters of Trump, the likely Republican nominee in 2024's presidential election. But Monday's disclosure reversed that trend, sending shares down $13.30, or 21%, to $48.66.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-media-company-falls-raising-143421931.html

https://twitter.com/i/status/1774858447109947657

Most likely a pump and dump scheme/scam. Trump most likely kept a substantial number of the shares and dumped immediately after launch, when the hype is loudest and MAGA are buying at ridiculous prices. This happens a lot in the Memecoin market. This is why I stopped trading memecoin. No matter how legitimate a Memecoin project looks with all the hype and beautiful websites, 99% of them are scam. You always end up getting rugged.

In a matter of days Trump Media & Technology Group would become a penny stock. Trump would have cashed out by then.

Obrigardo:


Criminal trump's popularity is the same? Puleeease, no platitudes. Let's be real. The Criminal is under water. His former VP won't even back him, his former secretary of defense won't even support him, and about 42 other former cabinet members and officials who worked with him says he's an existential danger to democracy.

Did you see the crowds Liz Cheney pulled with her event in Red republican Des Moines, in Iowa? Do you even know the stats of the republican primary that had Criminal trump bleeding voters even in Florida, closed ballot for that matter?

I don't think you are a seriously objective person. Like I've always known maga cultists to be, you people are excessively stubborn to facts and changes.

Arguing with MAGA is an exercise in futility. They attempt to wear you out with lies, conspiracy theories and dishonesty. They are like the hyda headed monster You kill on lie or conspiracy theory, they create 5 more, expecting you to engage all with them. Before you even finish, they create even more. All the while the lies and conspiracy theories keeps getting crazier. It's really exhausting. I praise those with the time and energy to keep up with them.
This one made a stupendous claim that Trump popularity remains the same as 2020

tctrills:

Actually, he lost only by 40k votes in just 3 states. Biden is now much more unpopular than 4 years ago while Trump's popularity remains about the same.

This is despite almost all his former cabinet members not supporting him, Nikki Haley and her supporters (which are about 20% of GOP) not supporting him yet, Moderate Republicans (non MAGA republicans) are leaving the party, and the Lincoln Project getting ready for the campaigns.

Meanwhile, there is no major division within the democrats, Unions are endorsing Biden and Biden is breaking fundraising records.

MAGA now wants to disregard all and accept only pools. In the past, whenever the pools favour democrats, they become critical of pools. Now it that pools favours Trump, it has become a prophesy.

Themaths:


I might not have the correct data, but I still think your numbers are way off the mark. Let's say 20,000 cars were sold in 2022; that means approx. 55 cars per day, then 1-2 cars per state, including the FCT. There is no way only 1-2 cars are sold daily, even in Nigeria's least developed state. Perhaps you meant 200,000?

The data is quoting Brand New Cars and not Tokunbo or Nigerian used cars. How many Nigerians buy tear rubber cars? Most new cars are bought by government officials and big corporations, while the ordinary citizens go for used cars.

ozo13:
be confusing urself.where did I mention Binance fixing naira even though I try not to be controversial Abt it.let me ask a simple yes or no question.is Binance legally registered in Nigeria ? And when you are done answering that one then ask urself again if it was in US they are unregistered entity what will be the penalty for operating with no registeration.
Back to naira fixing .u brought up the issue of abokifx and I asked if it is a legal entity in Nigeria and if so are they paying tax .yes or no questions u are convulsing up n down.

Like I HV said, na Nigeria dey allow nonsense happen for over here.mention a serious country they allow black market sale of there currency if not in Nigeria.
When I see enemy of Nigeria speak I know one and when Govt is fucking up , we point it out too.ppl that were jubulating and telling people to illegally keep there dollars till naira get to 2500 or 3k/dollar can't be considered as a patriot.where things are working and done normally such people are tagged enemy of the Nation.

Now let me also ask you corresponding question similar to those I highlighted:
Is Nairaland registered in Nigeria?
Is Facebook registered in Nigeria
Is TicTok registered in Nigeria?
Is Alibaba and Aliexpress registered in Nigeria?
There are thousands if not millions of website thar offer one service or the other to Nigerians and collect payments from Nigerians, how many of them are registered in Nigeria?

Binance was not the only website offering P2P service to Nigerians in the crypto space. There are others like OKX and Kucoin that still allow naira to be traded on their platform till this very second. Why is Ribabu not issuing warrant of arrest for all their executives?

So you see the issue is not with binance itself but with our laws. Instead of you to attack your legislative for doing nothing but approving budgets, allowances and constituency projects, instead of passing laws to regulate and tax internet companies doing business in with Nigerians, you are attacking Binance just taking advantage of Nigeria's lax laws.

JagabanB:

Do ur findings, the Nigerians who are doing well in various fields today mostly attended those schools both those who are at home and those who have gone abroad.
The attended these schools at a point in their life.

Help me out by naming those Nigerians that are renowned in various field of science and technology, and the schools they attended.

I am not even arguing that some Nigerians leant to read and write, and pass exams in Nigeria. What I am still contending is that they become elite scientist/inventors after attending elite schools abroad, where the facilities for physical learning of science is available.

jazzman7711:


Excellently put.

In their 70 year misrule, the British did not build a single engineering institute in the country. They were terrified of their ‘subjects’ learning new technology etc.

But they built many churches and promoted Shakespeare and co in their wretched missionary schools.

In their colonies of India, Canada, Egypt, South Africa etc, they built such engineering schools and promoted science and technology, which is why it is dumb to say “they colonised other continents as well”, when attacking current Nigerian and African underdevelopment.

Colonialism was practiced VERY differently in black Africa. It was total looting and exploitation, and building nothing.

Black African nations only began to develop after independence in the 1960s, which is like yesterday in terms of history.

My brother they are incapable of grasping this truth, a mental prison is the worst kind of prison, as you are not even aware you are imprisoned. It like living in the Matrix, oblivious of the real world.

Ever wondered why the first thing the colonialist did was translate the Bible into all the local languages, but refused to translate Physics, Mathematics and the sciences. They taught us Shakespeare but refused to teach us Newton, Faraday, Fleming, etc. They taught us their own version of our history. They build mega churches,but refused to build Libraries, Laboratories, Observatories, Museums (in fact the destroyed our own Museums.

Chicagograduate:
No be by mouth.Una get light?

No mind dem? On top diesel of N1400? I neva take eye see NEPA light for 3 days now.

Jayhome24:


Are you done or anything more to say "a citizen of a stupid country"?

Pls when you finish foaming from your mouth close the door behind you.

Why dem no arrest Mark Zuckerberg when he come naija, abi Facebook dey pay tax for all the Facebook ads money dem dey collect from Nigerians?

Elidrisy20:
Wetin carry am come naija?

Ribabu invited them to come and discuss the operations of binance in Nigeria. In getting to the airport, they were arrested and detained.

naija4life247:


This was how those before you died of hypertension over a matter that didn't concern them, you too are walking the same path

Don't worry the matter will concern you someday.

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Honestey:



So the bloody criminals that one of them ran away from detention are your visionary people right?

What exactly is the crimes the two Binance officers are accused of? Why has their crimes not been charged to court? What happens if Binance refused to pay their fines/ransom? Will Ribabu hold them indefinitely?

DeepSight:


In Company Law, there is something called "Lifting the Veil of Incorporation."

Pity I am not a lawyer. Please explain how this concept applies to the two Binance employees. Does it then mean all Binance employees including cleaners and drivers can be arrested for tax crimes of the company?

hedonido:
Stupid country with stupid leaders, particularly since 2015. Buhari was raiding Supreme Court justices houses, and chasing after Abokifx operators. Now his very obnoxious ronu successor is outdoing him by kidnapping Foreign business executives who honoured invitations to the country for discussions.

If the Nigerian government has any issues with Binance as a corporate entity, why not deal with Binance itself following the standard channels/procedures? Countries routinely sue international companies for billions of dollars. It doesn't mean it has to kidnap and detain random B level executives of the companies indefinitely or sue them in lieu of the company. Who does that?

In any case, the only person whose weight is equal to Binance within Binance is CZ. Why not send your Isale Eko Jameson Bond amala agents to kidnap CZ the same way Buhari kidnapped Nnamdi Kanu in Kenya?

It is idiocy to 'detain' a company's employees because you have an issue with the company. It's the same way our security agencies routinely kidnap someone's pregnant wife or aged parents because the 'someone' is at large. No where else in the world does this happen.

My brother, Ribabu behaves like he never went to school, much less claim to have studied law. How can you arrest an employee of a company for alleged infractions of a corporate body? Its like arresting and locking up the driver of Glo for tax infractions commited by the company? It seems Ribabu and his APC supporters don't understand the principle of liability (limited liability). You cannot even punish the chairman/MD of a company for crimes commited by the company, except it is in his personal capacity.

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So who will USA not have pity on tax matters, Binance as a corporate body or it employees on the payroll of Binance?

truthhurtsnaira:


Black people are the only people living a life far and and opposite of their ancestors… That why the red wigs wearing girls and Hennessy drinking guys are easy targets for racism and discrimination worldwide…

Dancing all on social media, even the poor Uganda kids shaking their nyash on dirt roads…. Really?
Bad governments, greed and jealousy, and trending here to their.

See Ampiano dances… have you watched the dances with mute on….. they look like FOOLS….

Anyway we are our own problems

You can't really blame us, that was the way our minds was preprogrammed by the colonialists/conquerors. The forced their beliefs and way of life on us while hiding their technology and science from us. They made us aspire to look like them, think like them, eat like them, write like them and even worship their own ancestors.

JagabanB:

Many of the Nigerian best hands today went through those schools.
That's a fact you can't deny.
Many of the best institutions around today are owned by religious bodies in Nigeria.

What contributions have these best schools made to the technological and industrial development of the country? How many of their alumni are renowned in the field of science?
I also attended one of the best schools in Nigeria.

babasolution:


Please mention the things government subsidises apart from previously fuel and electricity?

Even the subsidy on fuel is suspect, as we operate a crude oil swap deal, in which we give foreign refineries crude oil and they give us petrol, diesel and kerosene in return.

nairalanda1:



And by your assertion, you won't have been able to get into university because all catholic school taught you was to be a good catholic.

I know people who went to catholic, protestant and other schools. They learned the RRR and the sciences. Otherwise they won't have been able to get into any university.

If it is critical thinking you are worried about, that needs to change...but no religious school in nigeria teaches only 'religion' as you think

Better stop hating religion. Or the lack thereof.

You still don't get it 60 years after colonisation ended. The educational system was designed to make us better Christians first, then better British subjects, then better administrators for colonial interests. That's why our "scientists" are better administrators that technologists/inventors. That's why our scientists can never win a Nobel price in the sciences, but win Nobel prices in English Literature.

nairalanda1:


Well, most Nigerians believe that government should set the price of petrol and electricity, and that their companies should not do so.

Also , most Nigerians believe that the government should also set the price of food.,,and a host of things (which is why they call business people who have to raise prices evil, without finding out why they have to raise prices)>

And anyone who disagrees with them is a tinubu supporter.

Most nigerians also believe that the people (workers) should set the price of labour (wages) also, but what do we have? Government setting a salary structure, a structure that is at variance with prices of commodities - ie petrol, electricity, food, medicine, etc.

Most Nigerians also believe that the natural resources of the country should be controlled by the owners instead of a central government who appropriate all to itself and distributed as it deems fit.

It seems you fo not understand the meaning of socialism and capitalism. It has to do more with who control of the countries resources between the prople and the government, and the distribution of such resources.

nairalanda1:


Again, I disagree there, speaking as someone who knew people who went to mission schools where they learned to be scientists and technologists and so on.

All the mission schools taught the sciences, and the other modern subjects. True in Nigeria and in most parts of the world. And many of their graduates went on to universites to read science based courses and graduate.

I mean, a lot of the scientists and techies we have had were misson school graduates and still are.

Yeah, religion may be bad to you, but it is not that evil...if what you are saying is right, we would have been in a worse state at independence self....

I went to Catholic primary and secondary schools, so my opinions are not based on hearsay. My primary school taught us to be better catholics. I used to serve mass in the morning before class every school day.

nairalanda1:


Nope, boils down to people like you and most nigerians preferring socialism, to industrialization and the free market.

What do you mean Nigerian preferring socialism? Which socialist based party has won elections in Nigeria after UPN? All current parties in Nigeria are ultra Conservative parties. How many social services do Nigerians enjoy compared to the rest of the world, Even the bastion of capitalism- The US enjoy more social services than Nigerians.

JagabanB:
The best schools in Nigeria started with religion, the probIem here are the people practicing the reIigion not the reIigion.
From the pastors who see the members as their easy to make cool cash to the members who are so f00Iish to believe that u prosper by giving whatever u have to the pastor.
Nigeriàñs need education to illuminate their minds in general.

The best schools started by missionaries and colonialists were to teach us to be better Christians and subjects and not to teach us to be better scientists, technologists or better critical thinkers.