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Ojiofor:You are funny o. First, you are harping on the lie that an accord was actually signed, I challenged you to provide proof of a signed document, but you just keep repeating that an accord was signed. Repeating a lie 1000 times cannot make it true. Secondly and most importantly, who made Ojukwu, Ejor and Kastina Governor? Were they representatives of their regions? Even the appointed military governor of the Western Region, Lieutenant Colonel Adekunle Fajuyi was not even at the conference. Maybe any yoruba man that attend the conference was deemed to be representing the whole western region. The government of Aguiyi ironsi was a illegal government The Government of Yakubu Gowon was an illegal government. All appointed governors of the regions were illegal governments They had no mandate to split the country. If Aguiyi ironsi, Yakubu Gowon, Ojukwu and their fellow military conspirators were not power hungry, they would have returned the country to democratic rule after the failed coup or successful counter coup, instead to attempting to divide the country along their sphere of influence. |
Cleanmouth:How many Nigerians have you seen or heard chant "de*th to America, de*th to Israel" on social media. Yes, many Nigerians don't support US policies on how the treat Africans, and Israeli policies on occupied lands, that's not tantamount to wishing de*th to America and de*th to Israel. So the US wants to control our thoughts and minds before the grant us visa? So we must support every US policy before they deemed us fit to visit their country? Maybe they would start demanding we show support for LGBQ before they grant us visa to visit the US. Land of the free indeed. Mind you, in this case, I don't blame the immigration officers for deporting this lady. Lying, dishonesty and deceit are cultural norms in Nigeria, we tend to lie, even when it's unnecessary. Here are some examples of cultural lies; when we are poor, we say we are rich, when we are sick, we say we are strong. We lie in Visa applications when it's is utterly unnecessary. |
tiwasiaife:Not every country. It has to be permitted by the constitution, and you arre aware that the Eastern Region did not support a secession clause in our constitution. For you information, the US constitution does not permit secession from the Union. The also fought a civil war to keep the country one. |
Ojiofor:Please name the four regional governors in attendance, and I am yet to see a copy of any signed document. |
Ojiofor:Where was the document? Which document was signed and by who? Aburi would never have worked. It was never discuss with the other 3 regions, and most importantly, T.Y.Danjuma and Murtala Mohammed vehemently opposed it. |
Unenforceable agreement. Even if Fubara signs the agreement not to seek reelection, the agreement cannot be enforced in any court,except by violence or use of federal intimidation. It would be similar to the case of Jonathan, where he was said to have signed for only one term. No agreement can override his constitutional rights to seek reelection. We should blame INEC and the judiciary for destroying Nigeria's electoral process and making people like Tinubu and Wike feel like Gods, if votes actually count and people are allowed to choose their leader, Wikes would become powerless, and Fubara would simply join another party not controlled by Wike or Tinubu, he would defeat both of them in a landslide. |
naptu2:The FCT minister is the defacto governor of Abuja and exercise all the powers of a Governor. Now are you insinuating that the act gives a minister of power the powers to give C of Os, governors consent, give building permits and collect ground rents in states without any reference to state governments? |
DomPerignon:Peaceful possession means without violence or force. I know you have a fair understanding of the English language. Are you aware that the legal system allows for appeal? A man sentenced to death is not Immediately killed, but given the right of appeal. |
Myrepublic:What's your pain if I decide to bath with shit? Na your shit or your body, or even your bathroom? |
aswani:And you are knew all these details because? You said they saw a court order of possession and then decided to pack their loads and leave. Does that even make sense. Mind you the court order never specified demolition, it specifically instructed peaceful possession. |
aieromon:Re-read again - any land held or vested in the federal government, and references to Governor shall be construed accordingly. Meaning the FG cannot give C of Os without reference to Governors. |
Myrepublic:I honestly don't understand religiosity folks obsession with what two consenting adults do in the secrecy of their bedrooms. Imagine obsessing on how a married couple decide to have sex - ridiculous. |
aswani:What do you mean by "they refused to be around to identify themselves"? You mean you can report a case of trespass to the police, file a case in court, obtain a judgement, and execute the judgement all without interacting with the accused. Its even more absurd when you consider that we are talking about a property, with security and other workers working or residing there. No evidence of letters addressed to anybody in the property. Just evidence of subsituted service to an anonymous person or entity. |
aieromon:The land use act is actually an outdated law that needs revision to reflect Nigeria's current realities. It was created under military dictatorship when Nigeria has 19 states and Lagos was still Federal Capital. The 2004 act was simply a renaming of the land use decree to land use act. It was the same document. The national assembly are more interested in constituency projects, salaries and allowances, appropriation budget, and lately Senator Natasha Akpoti Uduaghan than actually making laws for the progress and betterment of the country. Now having said that, I have looked across the land use act of 2004, and no where did it give the president, minister of works or any other Federal Government official, the powers to issue Certificate of Occupany, Governors consent or any other taxes on lands situated in states outside those prescribed by the act itself - waterways, beach fronts, and lands already owned or acquired. The act equivocally stated multiple times, the powers of Governors to exercise such powers. Not one reference to any powers conferred on the FG in the whole act. I looked at section 51 (1 and 2) as quoted in the document you posted, I did not see where it granted the minister of works such powers as stated. Progress and development of a nation is determine by the quality, and adherence to its laws. This is where Nigeria is seriously lacking. Here is the land use act of 2004 - https://lawsofnigeria.placng.org/view2.php?sn=228 |
Yadaddy:Nigerians are about the most taxed people on earth, it seems President Tinubu wants to tax Nigerians into oblivion. Its not just the officially stated taxes, but also lots of hidden taxes, and then myriads of unofficial taxes. For example with the new N50 tax on every N10,000 digital transaction. My business pays between N2,000 to N4,000 daily. I have a friend that does POS business that pays close to N10,000 everyday. Then there is council tax, and other various local government taxes. State taxes nko, e dey. Then depending on your business and locations, there are the almighty "omonile". Doing business in Nigeria is a herculean task. |
casualobserver:You are now coming back to reality to admit the obvious. It's not in within the powers of the FG to issue C of O on state lands. To show that FG acquired Unilag from the state government and gazetted such prove that assertion. Now coming back to this case. I am aware the FG sold off most of its properties in Lagos at the onset of this democratic dispensation in 1999. So it is reasonable that she bought the Land from FG in 2003, and the sale should have been gazetted. Now, having bought it from the FG, she should have still obtained a C of O and possibly governor's consent from the Lagos State government. She should have been paying ground rent and relevant taxes to the Lagos State government since then. These are what would have made her ownership indisputable. Now, I am not aware who Peter obi or brother acquired the property from, but they seem to have been obtained a C of O from the Lagos State government and been paying relevant taxes. If Mrs Olorunlogbon had been straight forward and taken the proper legal channels, by first writing to the company or persons occupying the property and then taking them to court and serving them personally, the matter would have been resolved in court without all the hullabaloo. Now the matter is just starting in court after much damage had been done to the property. As the matter is in court, no one can make use of the property until the cases is determined, which might take years. Let me add. Nigerians are very lax when it comes to permits, taxes and approvals. Most houses in lagos has not be regularised by the owners. They would just pay "omoniles" and start building without all the necessary permits. That's why most lands are under dispute. In Abuja its worse. This is the loop hole various FCT ministers exploit in taking landed properties from their owners and reallocating it to their friends and cronies. |
casualobserver:You are contracting yourself in the same paragraph. Federal government acquires property, from who? Who owns the land to begin with? Who does the FG acquires it from before it gazette it. If Mr Olorunlogbon bought the land from FG in 2021, who owned the land before then, the FG or Lagos State government? |
DeepSight:Thank my brother. Nigerians accept and defend illegality as long as it benefits them or their interests. That's why the government and those in power trample on the rights of Nigerians with impunity. |
agabusta:The fact that the FG does something does not make it legal. In Nigeria states and the FG engage in lots of illegalities, and only comes to light when someone takes the FG or state to court. Gani Fawehinmi has taken FG to court on many issues and won. Ebun-Olu Adegboruwa, SAN took the Lagos State government to court over the environmental sanitation exercise which restricted freedom of movement as enshrined in our constitution, and won. Once again, the Nigerian constitution and the Land use act of 1978, does not give FG the power over Land matters except in few exceptions. The president or ministers cannot give C of O in states, except Abuja of course. I am glad this case is coming up, and I hope this case is pursued beyond ownership of the disputed property, but resolve the issue of the legality of FG issuing C of O once and for all. |
agabusta:The lawyer never addressed the issue of C of O being issued by the FG. From my unlearned interpretation of the land use act of 1978, all land in each state is vested in the governors, who holds it in trust for the people, except a few exceptions like waterways, beach fronts and critical federal infrastructure. |
aswani:Which various requests did they ignore? Did dey even address the suit to anyone? You mean the complainant did not even bother to inquire the identity of the persons allegedly squatting on her land since 2013, and the courts decided to give a judgement against unknown persons. Also the clerks of the court and the process server served notices to unknown persons. Furthermore, the police decides to arrest unknown persons for trespass. Tribalism kills sense of reasoning. |
Tareq1105:You people are blinded by tribalism. Whether I like Obi or not is irrelevant. Demolishing a disputed property without informing or even ascertaining the identity of the other party is wrong in any sane society. The court order said possession should be peaceful, it did not say demolish or burn the property. |
Profteey:No bank will give a third party to an account that kind of information. |
agabusta:Is it possible to obtain a governor's consent without C of O? |
crixlight2:Federal C of O in Lagos? That one is strange to me. Abeg who dey issue C of O in states? |
Felabrity:It's talking about Nigerian websites and not foreign based ones. Overall, Google, YouTube and twitter would have far more Nigerian visitors than bet9ja |
culf:The other half is into tithing and offerings as a way out of poverty. |
bemeruca:That's true, the story makes no sense. If the story is true, the car dealer could simply have reported the issue to the police and his bank after a few days or a few weeks maximum. The police and bank would investigate the case and probably return the money to the original source, and he can safely put the vehicle on the market once again. Waiting 2 years makes no sense at all. Besides, the cost of vehicles have doubled in the last 2 years. |
ZombieDredd:It's not that simple. Maintaing and storage of the the vehicle costs money, a considerable amount for what matter. Who will bear the costs? What about insurance? What if the vehicle is damaged or even stolen while in the care of the dealer, will he be held responsible. In law, you take responsibility for items and services immediate you pay and obtain receipts of payment, unless there are binding agreements that give certain responsibilities to the seller. If the buyer shows up two years after purchase without any other agreement, he is liable for maintenance and parking fees. |
LegendHero:This is precisely why Nigeria continues to sink deeper into chaos—its people have lost their sense of decency, natural justice, and truth. We now glorify lies, deceit, cheating, and a “might is right” mentality. In the United States, no court delivers judgments based on deceitful technicalities. No court would pass judgment without hearing from both parties. No court would rule against an accused person whose identity remains anonymous. In the U.S., everyone is entitled to their day in court—that is the standard of justice. In this matter, we’re dealing with a property ownership dispute, not merely an issue of trespass. The accused has constructed a building and lived on the disputed land for years—possibly decades. Winning possession in the court of first instance does not automatically mean the case is closed. The law permits appeals all the way to the Supreme Court. So, what happens if the accused eventually overturns the High Court judgment in a higher court? Will those who rushed to enforce a flawed decision be held accountable? One can only hope that someday, those enabling such injustices will experience what it feels like to have a court judgment passed against them in absentia. |
LegendHero:So illegality should be condoned or accepted because it happens elsewhere? We are promoting a lawless country, where jungle justice and self help is the norm. A governor or government officials becomes the complainant, judge and executioner, without bothering about the judiciary. |
LegendHero:It is. Demolishing a house without a court order specifying such is the height of injustice. What the court allegedly ordered was taking possession. Taking possession is not the same as demolition of property with occupants and possessions inside. If a court orders taking of possession, it will include time, date and how. Also a process server will serve the dependents to make them aware of the order. |