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Ttalk:
But you now want the same non functional judiciary to become functional all of a sudden because it concerns someone you don't like

Imagine the op has opened more than 6 thread on same topic. Why the sudden obsession? Why is the morality always come from outside if involved and not from home?

That's our number one problem in Nigeria; shoot the messenger instead of the message. Any Nigerian who desires a functional society, hopes and strives for a functional judiciary. That an offender is arrested is first step, that the same offender is prosecuted is the next, and finally punished according to the extent of the law is the final step. Kwam one should have been arrested, that is the first step. Whether he is prosecuted or not should be the next.

Having an obsession is a constitutional right, an anyone is free to have an obsession, as long as it is legal.
Now, if you are obsessed about another person breaking the law, you are free to open 100 threads denouncing the person, as long as you do not enter defamation territory.

Ttalk:
Which court prosecuted him?
Where is he serving his jail term?
I need reference to this your assertion asap

Who would be to blame if he was not prosecuted? If the judicial system is functional, would you be asking these questions?

Brendaniel:
I'm sure if they bundled him forcefully, it is still people like you who will call for the prosecution of all those who did it to him like you are still defending him here even after they gave him respect by not rough handling him, what else did you expect them to do?


Look at the Obidient man that tried something even lesser was rough handled, bundled out, arrested, prosecuted and jailed and all of you supporting KWAM1 now all cheered on, now you guys are busy trying to twist the whole thing...

Your fight for KWAM 1 has nothing to o with whether he is right or wrong but the fact that he is your tribesman and supports Tinubu that you also support.

And someone like you will want someone like me to believe you want a country that works, if they prosecuted the man in the video, what stops them from prosecuting KWAM1?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9XS6Jm1-vQ?si=pGmkxL6qsDyxtMCd

It's because tribalism has destroyed our moral compass. If Kwam 1 was an igboman, those supporting or excusing him now would call for his execution, while those crucifying kwan1 now would defend him.
That's what Nigeria has been reduced to.

Ttalk:
What's your obsession with Kwam 1, creating multiple thread on same subject is childish.

Pls write epistles on this Obidient as well


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9XS6Jm1-vQ?si=pGmkxL6qsDyxtMCd

That's why Nigeria is referred to as a lawless country. Tring to disrupt the operations of a plane in any other country of the world would result in arrest and prosecution, no matter who you are - Obidient or APC.if

Enice:
Tinubu on the right path. Nigeria must be great. Those that want to japa can japa. They will be comparing Nigeria with Kenya, South Africa, Ghana etc, but they will never compare tax.

What about comparing wages? What is the minimum wage in those countries.

SweetyZinta:
It is good to see France on number 20 in the list. All thanks to the great and visionary men from Burkina Faso, Niger and Mali. See how the cut from neocoloniali.s.m is affecting the country?

More countries without natural resources, without indirect rule and stealing of African resource will go down soon... Africa is rising....

If every African countries can harness and process their resources without Western invasion, we will all be topping the table!!

That's not possible. Most African leaders especially the elected ones are tied to western countries and their interests. Most have double citizenship, their families live in these countries, and they hide Most of their stolen assets there.

MILLERMannn:
Why is it that Nigeria must always be there? Are you telling me Benin and Cameroon have stable economy than Nigeria. Or Niger have that stable economy.

I can tell you for free than Benin and Cameroon have more stable economies than Nigeria. In Nigeria you cannot predict anything beyond a few months. Policies change and reversed overnight without warnings. Our exchange rate moves like a leaf blowing about in a rain storm. Price of petrol and energy is as predictable as a mental patient. You cannot do any long term planning in Nigeria.

anonimi:

Atlantian post=44098058:
An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.

The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Socialism principles: All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A.... (substituting grades for dollars - something closer to home and more readily understood by all).

After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.

The second test average was a D! No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.

As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.

To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed. Could not be any simpler than that. These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read and all applicable to this experiment:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

Can you think of a reason for not sharing this?
Neither could I.

Very interesting story. I took time to read it and wrote a rebuttal.

This story, though catchy, is a gross misrepresentation of what socialism truly is.

1. The Flawed Assumption: Confusing Socialism with Communism

What the professor described is not socialism but a rigid, extreme form of communism —a system that erases individual effort by enforcing uniform outcomes. History, particularly the collapse of the Soviet Union, has shown us the pitfalls of such a system: namely, the absence of an equitable reward mechanism. When people are rewarded equally regardless of their input, motivation declines. That is indeed a flaw—but it’s a flaw of communism, not of socialism.

Socialism , in contrast, is a social and economic framework that ensures the equitable distribution of shared resources—like land, healthcare, and education—while still maintaining fair rewards based on individual contributions. It’s not about giving everyone the same outcome but about giving everyone a fair start and equal access to basic needs and opportunities.

2. Misapplication of Incentives

The professor’s experiment failed to account for human psychology. There were no meaningful stakes tied to the students' performance. Whether they passed or failed had no real consequence—no reward for excellence, no penalty for underperformance.

If the prize for an A was a million dollars or a guaranteed job at Google, students would absolutely strive to succeed—even under equalized conditions. Conversely, if the reward was linked to failing (say, a prestigious anti-academic award), everyone might deliberately aim to fail. Human beings—like all living organisms—are motivated by consequences. The absence of meaningful incentives in the experiment made the entire exercise irrelevant to real-world socialism.

3. Survival vs. Grades

Unlike real life, school tests don’t determine survival. Many students take courses under parental pressure or just for social reasons. Failing a test might not even matter to them. In contrast, failing to provide food, shelter, or healthcare in society has devastating consequences, not just for individuals but for the entire social structure.

Throughout history, collapsed civilizations were often brought down not by their wealthy elite but by the mass of impoverished, desperate people with nothing left to lose. The starving Gauls overran wealthy Roman outposts. Barbaric Viking raids destabilized Northern Europe. In today’s world, insurgent groups like Boko Haram and violent herders have created chaos in Nigeria—because extreme poverty and lack of opportunity create conditions for extremism, not peace.

4. The Real Weakness of Capitalism

While capitalism may reward innovation and hard work, its greatest weakness lies in how easily it allows millions to fall through the cracks. When too many people are poor, helpless, and excluded, the overall prosperity of a nation becomes meaningless. No matter how wealthy the top 1% is, a nation cannot function or remain peaceful when large swaths of its population lack access to basic needs.

That is where socialism offers a necessary correction—not to destroy wealth or remove personal incentive, but to ensure no one is too poor to live in dignity.

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Addressing the “5 Best Sentences:

Let’s briefly address the so-called 5 best sentences offered by the professor:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
False dichotomy. Progressive taxation and social programs don’t legislate the wealthy out of prosperity—they simply ensure everyone contributes fairly.

2. What one person receives without working for, another must work for without receiving.
This ignores systemic inequality and inherited privilege. Many wealthy individuals today inherited wealth they never worked for.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything it does not first take from somebody else.
That’s literally how all taxation works—including in capitalist societies. Roads, military, and public services are paid for this way.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
Actually, wealth circulation through spending and redistribution stimulates the economy more than hoarding it at the top.

5. When half the people believe they don’t have to work, and the other half stops working because they’re exploited, it’s the end of a nation.
Agreed—but this is exactly why unregulated capitalism fails too. Both ends—laziness and exploitation—are unsustainable.

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Conclusion

The professor’s experiment was not only flawed in design but also in logic. It misrepresented socialism as a rewardless, demotivating system—which it is not.
Socialism seeks balance : reward for effort and protection for the vulnerable. In a world of rising inequality and economic insecurity, understanding that difference is not just important—it’s urgent.

anonimi:
Life is about balancing out different things.

Capitalism by itself is not a cure all system. There is a need to balance it out with some elements of socialism, such as free basic education and healthcare, along with progressive pricing of basic utilities like electricity and water.

However, the more socialist we are, the worse we are collectively, especially when we drift towards communism.

That's the message I have been trying to pass. Most capitalism proponents especially those from US makes out socialism as a form of evil, and capitalism as the answer to all socio economic problems.

There has to be a balance between the two systems. China realised this and moved from strict capitalism- communism to a very liberal form of capitalism that allows for private ownership of resources. In thirty years you can see the tremendous development.

Nigeria has elected to adopt the strictest form of capitalism, even stricter than the US. In the US, there are free public schools, even almost free public universities.
All Nigeria's resources are being left to private hands, most public social amenities have been abandoned. Water, electricity,basic health care and schools, have been left in private hands. Even public roads are being privatised. Nigerians enjoy zero public social services from the government.

Jayhome24:
Oga go and do your legacy in Anambra the owner of the land has said enough is enough.

I said in 2023 when you showed how tribalistic you are by insulting Tinibu and his people I said if I'm the Lagos governor I will remove that your bus stop name called Charly boy whatever and I'm happy the Lagosians eyes are wide opened now and ready for a show down.

It is not a sin for Yoruba to opened their doors for us when even our immediate neighbour rejected us but unfortunately we have make a sin for them to allowed us to come into their land so Mr Charly whatever go and rest OK I'm supporting the SW and thee North to remove any street name outside their indigenous citizen all should be remove with immediate effect.

Enough is enough...

King Sunny Ade, Tony Tetuila and Nice are not indigene of Lagos State. Most streets and Landmarks in Lagos State are not named after indigenes.

anonimi:
Do you expect Britons, Canadians, Americans etc to also take their own land back from us blacks

It's all politics. Nigerian politics since 1999 is one of tribalism and religiosity. The politicians divide the electorate among tribal and religious lines. This was what gave rise to Sharia Law in the North and "Yoruba ronu" in the west. Bola Tinubu being a master strategist just exploited existing tribal sentiments to gain power in Lagos and south west in general. He and his minions promote strong anti Igbo sentiments.

anonimi:
Neo-black Problem: Must Blacks Be Ruled by Whites in Order to Prosper?

In short, the neo-black dilemma may be framed as follows: is it better to live under white rule without political dignity but with basic life-sustaining standards for many;

or to live under black rule with illusory political dignity and without basic life- sustaining standards for the majority?
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The path forward for Africa lies in cultivating higher and adequate levels of personal and communal agential integrity as well as full personal responsibility and productivity. Not to mention creativity (including epistemic creativity), productive justice (such as merit and freedom), harmony and reconciliation at local and international levels, and a proper domestication of capitalism and other related values and institutions.

Africa must stop wasting her time on dreams of socialism because it is a system of wealth distribution primarily. Whereas, capitalism is a system of wealth creation primarily, and wealth has to be produced before it can be distributed.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/10/12/neo-black-problem-must-blacks-be-ruled-by-whites-in-order-to-prosper/

I vehemently disagree with the redded quote and the whole article in general.

One of the core problems with capitalism is its overwhelming focus on wealth—particularly material wealth. It reduces the meaning and purpose of life to the relentless pursuit of material possessions. This fixation breeds greed, exploitation, moral decay, and ultimately undermines the very fabric of society.

Contrary to popular misconceptions, socialism is not about distributing wealth without first creating it. It's important to remember that original wealth—land, minerals, water, forests—comes from natural resources. A properly structured socialist system is about the equitable distribution of these resources, which are often collectively inherited. However, capitalism, driven by greed, has historically led a small group of people to invade, exploit, and even enslave others in order to claim these resources for themselves.

Interestingly, many of the most peaceful, stable, and morally grounded nations today are those with strong socialist principles.

Africa, for instance, did not begin with a capitalist model. Traditional African societies were deeply communal. Land and natural resources were shared equitably among tribes, clans, and families. There was a strong emphasis on mutual responsibility and cooperation. As a result, conflicts were relatively rare. But as capitalist ideals took root—especially through colonization and foreign influence—competition replaced cooperation. Today, we see not just inter-tribal conflicts, but family feuds over land and inherited property, reflecting the divisive nature of resource ownership under capitalism.

Even Christianity began on socialist—arguably even communist—foundations. Jesus, his disciples, and the early Christian community lived communally. Personal ownership was discouraged, and everything was held in common for the benefit of all. It was only later, under Roman influence and institutional religion, that capitalist doctrines began to creep in and shape the modern interpretation of Christianity.

anonimi:
Neo-black Problem: Must Blacks Be Ruled by Whites in Order to Prosper?

In short, the neo-black dilemma may be framed as follows: is it better to live under white rule without political dignity but with basic life-sustaining standards for many;

or to live under black rule with illusory political dignity and without basic life- sustaining standards for the majority?
@
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The path forward for Africa lies in cultivating higher and adequate levels of personal and communal agential integrity as well as full personal responsibility and productivity. Not to mention creativity (including epistemic creativity), productive justice (such as merit and freedom), harmony and reconciliation at local and international levels, and a proper domestication of capitalism and other related values and institutions.

Africa must stop wasting her time on dreams of socialism because it is a system of wealth distribution primarily. Whereas, capitalism is a system of wealth creation primarily, and wealth has to be produced before it can be distributed.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/10/12/neo-black-problem-must-blacks-be-ruled-by-whites-in-order-to-prosper/

I vehemently disagree with the redded quote and the whole article in general.

One of the core problems with capitalism is its overwhelming focus on wealth—particularly material wealth. It reduces the meaning and purpose of life to the relentless pursuit of material possessions. This fixation breeds greed, exploitation, moral decay, and ultimately undermines the very fabric of society.

Contrary to popular misconceptions, socialism is not about distributing wealth without first creating it. It's important to remember that original wealth—land, minerals, water, forests—comes from natural resources. A properly structured socialist system is about the equitable distribution of these resources, which are often collectively inherited. However, capitalism, driven by greed, has historically led a small group of people to invade, exploit, and even enslave others in order to claim these resources for themselves.

Interestingly, many of the most peaceful, stable, and morally grounded nations today are those with strong socialist principles.

Africa, for instance, did not begin with a capitalist model. Traditional African societies were deeply communal. Land and natural resources were shared equitably among tribes, clans, and families. There was a strong emphasis on mutual responsibility and cooperation. As a result, conflicts were relatively rare. But as capitalist ideals took root—especially through colonization and foreign influence—competition replaced cooperation. Today, we see not just inter-tribal conflicts, but family feuds over land and inherited property, reflecting the divisive nature of resource ownership under capitalism.

Even Christianity began on socialist—arguably even communist—foundations. Jesus, his disciples, and the early Christian community lived communally. Personal ownership was discouraged, and everything was held in common for the benefit of all. It was only later, under Roman influence and institutional religion, that capitalist doctrines began to creep in and shape the modern interpretation of Christianity.

Goodvibes007:
The legacy of nudity and immorality. God forbid bad thing.

Op would you like Charly boy to be nudity mentor for any of your family members?

Which legacy morality Olamide, Tony Tetula, Nice and even King Sunny Ade promote?

So you would prefer Olamide, Tony Tetula and Nice to mentor your family member?

Tribalism has destroyed the soul of Nigeria.

Validated:
Lagos idea of renaming streets sharks of inferiority complex. I hope the will rename Murtala Muhammad Aurport, Ahmed Bello Way or even Ozimba Mbadiwe Road. It is appalling that in 2025, we are this backward. Perhaps one day the Geari indegenes will begin renaming institutions. May be the will rename Tinubu Conference center then.

Imagine, renaming of streets and landmarks named after non Yorubas in Lagos to Yoruba names, even though they have nothing whatsoever to do with those places. This is just primordial tribal sentiments geared towards the next elections.
Watin concern King Sunny Ade, Bukayo Saka, Nice, etc with Bariga? Abi they marry wife from Bariga?

BabaO2:
You are not making a realistic point.
Most of you just talk without thinking.
How can marketers build refineries?
Dangote wants to mischievously take millions out of job to soley benefit himself so as to sustain his richest man in Africa status.
If he wants to help Nigerians, he should go into agricultural food production everywhere across the country

And the way to keep millions of jobs is by selling imported gas? Which creates more jobs, importation or production? What stops the marketers from marketing dangote's gas. O I forgot, no overinvoicing possible as against NNPC.

chibuikejohn:
For me i like what Dangote is doing, its the only way to drive the country out of hardship. I know along the line he will monopolise the whole thing

No one is stopping the marketers from building refineries, after all the government issued out more than 10 refinery licences and non has built a functional refinery.

erniok:
He never said anything about getting LPG from NLNG. Why would he do that when he has no service station to sell?

He only said he producrs 2k tonnes daily and has started ramping up production to engage the marketers

These people should not force dangote to go into distribution. If they do then they are all finished. Why not simply negotiate with dangote to act as distributor to his products. Without government help the Nigerian petroleum marketers can never compete with dangote. Locally produced oil and gas will always be cheaper than imported ones.

“There are people who have spent money, spent resources, even business and development, and someone just comes in to reap from the work that has been done. I’m sure he wouldn’t have built if there had not been an existing market. The work has been done, he should respect the market and let us grow. It shouldn’t be a zero-sum strategy. It should be collaborative,” he said.

In his recommendation, the gas expert said that though Dangote has the upper hand, he should embrace collaboration.

“My advice to him is that the pie can be bigger. The Nigerian market is about 1.3 million tonnes. The Nigerian LPG market can be 5 million tonnes. He should work towards collaboration rather than competition, because at the end of the day, everybody benefits,” he added.

All these "turanchi" na grammar. Na exorbitant prices dem take develop market? People switched from kerosene to gas simply because of price. When subsidy was removed, kerosene began to sell over N1000 per litre, while gas was selling at N300 per kg.

What does he mean by collaboration rather than competition. Did he and his association approach Dangote as distributor and he refused?
I had thought the market economy is about competition aka demand and supply. What is he advocating for is an oligarchy.

SmartPolician:
Aliko Dangote is doing the Lord's work.

Those marketers that are protesting should pool their resources together and build a refinery so they can give his refinery a run for his money.

God bless Alhaji Dangote.

Gbam. How do the marketers think Nigeria can survive on imported energy, especially when we have oil and gas in abundance.

advocatejare:
The new owner becomes your landlord until your rent expires as long as you have your evidence of rent payment to the former owner intact!

Modified
But now that you’ve been refunded and you willingly accepted the refund, your tenancy agreement has ended as long as they gave you ample time to search for another accommodation after your refund (they can’t refund you today and ask you to pack out tomorrow)

So they refunded you and gave you 3 months to move out and you are now complaining. You can’t eat your cake and still keep it


You shouldn’t have agreed to the refund, you should have waited till your rent expires before you agree to move out because that is the official time your tenancy agreement ceases, but by willingly collecting a refund, you shot yourself in the foot

I do not think you are entirely correct. As a yearly tenant, he is entitled to a 6 month's quit notice, unless 3 months was was specifically stated in the original agreement. That he collected the refund does not mean anything, he had no choice. He was as is still being threatened. The original tenancy is for 12 months. One party cannot bridge the agreement. He said he is willing to return the refund in order to complete his tenancy.

Now, he should contact a lawyer and have the lawyer write the new landlord stating the validity of his tenancy and stating his willingness to refund the refund. He should also report any threat to the police. He cannot be ejected unlawfully with force.

I noticed that the tenancy expires in 3 months. He should Insist on his legal 6 months quit notice and offer to pay the extra 3 months. That's the position of the tenancy law.

DeepSight:
They dont do that. What some tend to do is categorize everyone across the River Niger as Igbo.

Yes you are right, many Yorubas especially those who have never left their villages categorise anyone from across the River Niger as Igbo, but Benin? Yorubas no matter how ignorant would call a Benin person Igbo. Benin has a long shared history the Yorubas.

chucky101:
Your comment is lazy and disrespectful. Think about things a little deeper, be more considerate to the plight of the people speaking.

The indigenous people of the South-South have been the economic lifeblood of this Nation (including Lagos State) for over 50 years and yet the people are marginalized and their concerns disregarded. I don't want to preach this morning but i need you to have better understanding.

Brazilians speak Portugese
Mexicans and most of South America speak Spanish
Americans and Canadians speak English/French
Egyptians speak Arabic
Etc.

Do they these countries deny their heritage because these speak a "Foreign" language?

The yoruba people speaking that way are likely under-educated. I expect a decently educated Yoruba man to know the different distinctions.

He is just speaking from a position of ignorance and Igbo nationalism. Yoruba People seeing Benin and Urhobo people as Igbo? That's a lie. Both Yoruba and Benin people claim the same progenitor - Oduduwa. Benin Oba gave Lagos its Monarchy. So which Yoruba persons have mistakingly mistook a Bini name for Igbo?

DeepSight:
Wow.

To understand the mentality of Asaba People and by extension Anioma people, read this piece about the history of Asaba from Asaba National Association - https://asabausa.com/about-asaba/

Read the screenshot to understand the mindset of Asaba People in relation to the core igbos.

My wife actually told me that during her stay in Asaba with her cousins, they (the youths) told her thar if the IPOB and the igbos disturb them too much about co-opting them into Biafra or Igbo state, they would blow up the bridge, which is the thing connecting them with Igbo mainland.

DeepSight:
They did claim Austria and integrate it into Germany during the time of the Nazis though, and in fact Hitler was Austrian.
Political or national lines and boundaries are not as original and authentic as ethnic lines and in truth the "nation" and people known as Germany and Germans extend beyond todays political boundaries of the Federal Republic of Germany, just as the Hausa and Fulani extend all across West Africa and just as the Bantu extend across East Africa.

That's the point I am trying to make to Igbo nationalists. That a people speak Igbo does not necessarily mean they must be tethered to other igbo speaking people in a political unit. Language is not the only consideration for creating geopolitical political units, other considerations such as history, trade, geographical landmarks, cultural affiliations, etc, are equally as important.

I know for a fact thar majority of Anioma people will prefer to remain with the South South than join the south east in a political affiliation. My wife is both from Imo and Anioma (Asaba). She was in asaba last month visiting her maternal family. She experienced the hostility by Asaba people towards core igbos in trying to drag them by force into the south east political issues.

jmoore:
South south?
You are the one displaying babablu here.

When did geopolitical zones came?

Park one side!!

Quarrel with the United nations that first used the term south south. - https://www.un.org/pl/desa/what-%E2%80%98south-south-cooperation%E2%80%99-and-why-does-it-matter

gidgiddy:
Don't you find this a bit odd? That people who speak Igbo as their language, bear Igbo names, were in a political unit with other tribes they don't even understand what they are saying without English?

These people had never and I repeat NEVER complained of being separated from their Igbo kith and kin, they were proud westerners under Awolowo, they were proud mid-westerners, they proudly shouted "up Bendel" under Bendel State. Till date they are very happy to still be political brothers with other tribes in Delta State and by extension happy to be termed South South along with other niger Delta tribes. That you guys from core Igbo states are desperately trying to force them to abandon over a century of political affiliation and cajole them into yours will certainly be met with resistance. That's why IPOB is not popular in Asaba, Ukwani, Ikwerre, and other non core Igbo speaking people.

Language had never been the main determinant of political units throughout history. There are many German speakers in Switzerland, Austria and even Belgium. That doesn't mean Germany must claim those people.

jmoore:
Identity crisis dey knock engine wey dey for brain.

Anioma is an Igbo word.

I think they should use another name and stop using the word Anioma.

No be only south south. They should be under north north.

Comprehension deficit disorder. Nobody is saying Anioma is not an Igbo word, what the Ukwuanis and Aniomas are saying is that they have never been in the same political unit with the Igbos - never, whether under colonial rule or post colonial governments. They have always been with the south south. First with the south west, and then with the mid west. So removing them from their historical political brothers and lumping them with the igbos is not welcomed.

Bahamas95:
I prefer the hindu way of cremation.

That Islamic way dey make me fear, I've heard of people that were confirmed dead but later woke up. Muslims are always in a hurry to bury the dead.........What if the person later wakes up in the grave? Double wahala for deadi body.

I don't agree with cremation. I believe burning disrupts the cycle of life, I am talking about recycling the raw materials that was used to make up the body of the dead person. Burying a body allows other living organisms - bacteria, plants, insects, worms and even scavengers to feed on compounds/ resources in the body, which are eventually used to build other human beings. Burning the body destroys these compounds.

In today’s modern era, the practice of burying someone on the same day of death—sometimes before the body is even cold —appears unreasonable. While such customs may have made practical sense during the time of Prophet Mohammed, especially given the intense desert heat that accelerated decomposition that posed public health risks then, those conditions no longer apply.

With the advent of modern refrigeration and advances in medical science, the urgency to bury a body immediately has significantly diminished. In fact, delaying burial can be medically and socially beneficial. Performing an autopsy on a newly deceased person can help determine the exact cause of death—an essential step in identifying potential outbreaks of new diseases or pandemics, which could ultimately save millions of lives.

Moreover, autopsies are a vital tool for law enforcement and justice systems. They can reveal whether a death was due to natural causes or foul play, ensuring that potential homicides are not overlooked. In short, modern technology has removed the need for hasty burials and highlights the value of post-mortem investigations for both public health and justice.

It seems Muslims are stuck in a time bubble or capsule in the 7th century AD

stagger:
The whole earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof. Go away.

Which of the Lords- Lord Jehovah, Lord Jesus, Lord Allah or Lord Shiva?

onomej4u1:
That was his wish to his family to be buried in Saudi Arabia before he died.

Why do Africans have more patriotic attachment to the lands of the colonisers/enslavers than the land of their ancestors? We seem to be the only race with that mindset. Ukrainians last wish is to be buried in Ukraine, a Syrian last wish is to be buried in his village in Syria, even a lowly salmon swims thousand of miles to die in the place of its birth. We are proud to die and be buried anywhere else but the land of our birth.

Kemetian:
The day Africans stop believing that God is a white or Arab creature who lives ‘abroad’, not in Africa, is the day Africa will be liberated.

For now, keep displaying your slavery to the world.

I honestly do not understand why he is buried in a foreign land instead of the land of his ancestors. Has he disowned his fatherland and adopted that of foreigners who enslaved his ancestors?

MIKOLOWISKA:
Why are you jumping through hoops to get visa to country you don't agree with their policies.?
How does this make sense to you
Yes you do support lgbtqia otherwise you wouldn't go there and be quiet unlike here where you can mock/rebuke and discriminate them openly

So every American citizen agree with the policies of every American administration?

That I do not support LGBTQ does not mean you mock/rebuke or discriminate against them. It simply means you don't agree or support their lifestyle. Same way I don't agree with Tinubu’s or current Nigerian policies, eg subsidy removal, floating of currency and excessive taxes. Does that mean I am no longer a good citizen?

name somewhere freer

Most of Western Europe are freer. Their government don't see opposing opinions as enemies, they don't punish citizens, non citizens and visitors or aspiring visitors for holding opposition opinions.