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Michael547:
The fact is that not all groups or families of animals share similarities in their dna. Like I have always said, there are biological barriers between groups or families of animals that would make it impossible for all living organisms on earth to have evolved from a single cell. That is what science teaches us today. And that is what the fossil record show.

So tell me why the evidence in the DNA similarity tells us that they are closely related.
On what grounds will you disapprove a DNA paternity test between organism a and B and accept a DNA paternity test between human A And B when basically we use the same method for both.

Are you inferring that paternity test that prove that this person is related to this person is also false?

Michael547:
What would have happened was that for other family of animals to be on earth, they would need to have appeared suddenly. That is exactly what the fossil records show. That families or kinds of animals appeared suddenly.

Again;
If organisms 1 over 1million years Speciate to form organisms 2,

2 repeats to forms 3

3 repeats to from 4

3 repeats to form 5

5 repeats to form 6

6 repeats to from 7

6 repeats to form 8


There has been 8million years between organism 1 and 8.

Question:

1. Will organisms 7 and 8 look more like a closely related species than organisms 1 and 8?

2. Will organism 1 and 7 function exactly in the same manner?

Michael547:
What would have happened was that for other family of animals to be on earth, they would need to have appeared suddenly. That is exactly what the fossil records show. That families or kinds of animals appeared suddenly.

if they appeared suddenly then why do they share almost exactly the same DNA composition with the immediate organism that went extinct?

Why does it seem like there was just a little edition in their DNA code that made it seem like they came from preexisting organisms?

Where do they appear from?

Michael547:
I dont know exactly when animals was created on the earth. What I do know is that the fossil records show ancient animals that once lived at a particular time and that some were fully developed and even complex than some animals we have today. That oppose the evolution theory that living organisms has always evolved from simple cell to complex animals.

We don’t know in science either, that’s because there’s none.

Now, since no organism today that was formed in the earliest times is still around, so what do you think would have happened if they didn’t evolve before going extinct?

Michael547:
Likely food chain or environmental factors. Just the same way we experiment some specie of animals go extinct today.

Good, if the first organism or the first sets of organisms all went extinct without evolving into another types, what do you think would have happened?

Michael547:
Miacids have simply gone extinct just like mammoths and dinosaurs.

Can you mention one animal today that was formed when earth was formed or few years after earth was formed and is still around today?

If you mention one, I will accept whatever you have to say about magical creations

Michael547:
Miacids have simply gone extinct just like mammoths and dinosaurs.

Why did they go extinct?

Michael547:
The fossil records do not prove what you are insinuating. There is no evidence to show that miacids biologically evolved to tigers.

So how come they share 99.9% DNA compositions with Tigers and other felines?

What explanation do you have for that?

Everyone is just busy stealing money

Michael547:
Is there any scientific proof to that. The last time I checked miacids were complete animals and no fossil shows how they gradually evolved to tigers.

can you show me any maicid today that is not a fossil?

I am curious

Michael547:
If the human dna and bacteria dna is the same, we would likewise have become microbes too. That is what science tells us. The information in our cell is different. And that is why we are different from bacterials

Where did I say that humans and bacteria DNA are the same?
Point to it

Michael547:
The evidence is in their dna. Every living organism today has an information in their cells that makes them what they are including me and you. That information cannot be completely altered. That is what we know about science today.

Can you show me evidence that tigers cannot become Apes slowly over a period of 70million years.
Do you have any evidence for that in form of DNA science and evolutionary biology?

Michael547:
Is there any scientific proof to that. The last time I checked miacids were complete animals and no fossil shows how they gradually evolved to tigers.

Yes, they share 99.9% DNA, and two discovered that Tigers appeared in the fossil record as about the same time when maicids where going extinct.

It can’t be a coincidence, it’s not magic

Michael547:
I perfectly under you to this extent. But evolution is still far more than speciation. There are changes in a cell that accounts for speciation. That is why we see physical variations in animals of the same species today. But evolution claims to go far more than that. It tells that an organism can completely change it pre recorded Information in its dna and produce entirely another organism. That is impossible today.

It claims so because it see the evidence in DNA.
It’s not a coincidence that we see more DNA disparities as we move from species, to genus, to order to class, to family to phylum and then kingdom.

As a matter of fact, we have also detected many similarities between even humans and bacteria in DNA, which is prove that they originated from a single organism. Some Genes in bacteria and humans are exact the same, what other explanation is more logical than evolution?

Michael547:
The evidence was explained in my passage above. It cannot be done even in a controlled experiment.

Your evidence doesn’t factor in millions of years of speciation.

Show me an evidence that tigers cannot evolve into apes in another 70million years of constant speciations

Michael547:
Which animal did tiger come from? And how did it happen? Infact how did life start from just a single cell? How did the first cell start?

i don’t know how life started from a single cell.
Tigers evolved from Miacids

Michael547:
Because a tiger is a tiger because of the information recorded in the DNA of it's cell to become a tiger which could allow for some variation or specie. But it can never become an ape because its cell does not have the biological information that ape cell has. That is what science tells us today. If reverse was the case, animals from different families would have been breaded in laboratories all over the world.

show me evidence that a tiger cannot become an ape since tigers never existed forever and obviously came from other animals.

Develop a scientific model that inhibits that

Michael547:
So how is it possible for natural selection to biologically alter the information recorded in the DNA of a cell of an animal to make it become another animal entirely?

Natural selection the the process by which the environment selects the best gene to survive that environment, which changes gene frequencies of a group of organisms.

Constant changing gene frequencies in a group of organisms over time will basically portray different phenotypic features up to the extent of speciation.

It’s not rocket science

Michael547:
That is exactly the whole point of evolution. I sincerely believe in mutation, variation and speciation because they are scientifically proven. But science today helps us to understand that there is a biological limit to which those aforementioned processes can occur within a living organism. The whole idea that all living things today came from a single living cell is not biologically and scientifically possible. It cannot be proven anywhere not even in a lab with the best scientist.

if you believe speciation then why do you think a population of unicellular organisms cannot speciate many times into a multicellular organism?
We have evidence that they did anyways in the DNA, it’s written there clearly because multicellular organism still conserved many genes gotten from unicellular organisms.

That’s hot even a debate

Michael547:
Evolution says so

Evolution is the change in gene frequency within a population of organisms through natural selection.

How does that mean that a goat can give birth to a chicken?

Michael547:
Evolution says so

What evolution says so?
Have I been poring water on a rock?

Which textbook of biology’s says evolution now when a goat gives birth to a Chicken?

Michael547:
But you've never given me an example of how you claim about evolution can happen. We have countless species of animals on earth today. Which one have you seen evolved completely into another animal?

An example is Galapagos finches But you want an example of a goat giving birth to a chicken.

Michael547:
If they turned entirely into another animal, then why do you still call them finches. Me and you both know that tigers can never evolve to become apes because they have a biological barrier that would never let them get to that extent.

Says who?
How did you know that a tiger cannot evolve to an ape?
Educate me on that

Michael547:
If we all came from one organism....then why is it hard to proof the complete evolution of an organism from one form to another?
What you are having are new species within a kind of animal or organism with the same biological makeup. You are not actually creating another type of organism. There will always be a biological barrier of how much variation an organism can exhibit. It can never turn entirely into something else. That is what science know today.

Its not hard to prove, you are the person wanting to believe that animals can appear and disappear in the fossil record magically instead of the logical explanation that they evolved from each other. Which what actually happened.

It can turn into entirely something else, that’s the only logical explanation to fossil records and it’s the only logical explanation to transition fossils.

It’s you who won’t accept anything other man magic.

We even have millions of transition fossils to prove that living organism evolved but ypu won’t accept it until I insert magic into it

It’s impossible for animals to appear magicallyz have you seen any animals appearing magically?

The whole essence of this is to somehow find a way to insert your god in a gap

Michael547:
Did the new species became entirely another animal?

ofcourse it’s an entirely different animal.
Is a tiger not an entire different animal from lion even when we classify both as felines?

Michael547:
Does sexual preference justify that they became another animal entirely? Are they not still Galapagos finches with the same functionalities as their predecessors?

What are expecting to hear?

That a cat can give birth to a chicken?

lhordspy:
What is this?

This is Aba not anywhere near kaduna. Stop fooling yourself. I know gumi market so well. And this is not kaduna but Aba.

Cant you see the faces of people present there?. Who resemble hausa/fulani there?

Yiibo people always wanting to famz hausa. The friendship that never existed before and will never exist.

Your cry never start, wait until February.

We go carry this election to everyone’s door like Jehovah witness members.
Every nook and cranny of naija must be obedient before February.

Na only cry you go dey cry

They are busy wasting monies on big useless rallies with paid crowd, we are directly reaching out to the electorates

We will shock all of you in February. No be by spending stolen monies

Michael547:
Are the new specie of Galapagos finch different from the older ones biologically? Are they not still of the same biological stock?

we have different species that cannor mare with older one, what do you mean by stock?

A neve species has evidently emerged, can you deal with that?

We are technically all same biological stock cos we all evolved from one organism

[quote author=Michael547 post=118849310][/quote]i am telling you that a new Galapagos finch species emerged and we know from which species it emerged from.

We also have evidence of many species of microorganisms emerging with evidence of the species they emerged from.

They didn’t just appear by magic

Michael547:
Animals went extinct the same way animals go extinct today. We have a lot of animals today that are endangered species not because they are evolving but their populations are been threatened by natural or human action.

So why are they disappearing if the only explanation is that they can’t evolve?

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Michael547:
Are the new specie of Galapagos finch different from the older ones biologically? Are they not still of the same biological stock?

They are different, they cannot mate with the old species.
They also have different phenotypic features.

How did they emerge?