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Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 1:40pm On Mar 02, 2018
BHTs have always enjoyed tacit supports from its hundred of thousands of sympathizers in the North which is why any Imam that publicly criticize the group, for its atrocities, is automatically signing his death warrant. Even if BHTs don't necessarily have foot soldiers in that locale.

Take Kano and Kaduna for instance, dozens of Imams have been assassinated by the group's sympathizers. We shouldn't forget the Kano 2014 bombing that saw well over 200 souls lost just because Sanusi Lamido spoke against BHTs.
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/11/bomb-blasts-kill-200-kano-central-mosque/

I can recall the premature explosion that occurred in a built-up area in Kaduna several years ago. The bomb maker, his toddler, wife and some family members died when karma struck them in their home(that doubles as IED making factory. The bomb maker was just a civilian who suddenly decided that he would be making bombs for BHTs. He did succeed in killing hundred of people.

There are homes you will see in the North with glaring anti-west graffitis written on their walls, typical of terrorist organizations. The North fostered and nurtured Boko Haram, especially the fundamentalist Muslim population in Kano, Kaduna, Sokoto and Borno. And the only reason they are screaming blue murder now is because BHTs focuses most of its attacks on Muslims population.

Walahi, if it had been Christian and other minority groups bearing the brunt of this psychoes alone, they wouldn't have given enough hoot.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 10:36pm On Mar 01, 2018
nemesis4u:
Lot of tarpaulin will take care of Ur concerns sir grin
Lol, looks like someone needs to remind them that if you spend thousands of dollars of taxpayer's money to purchase a security apparatus, you should be able to to spare couple of dollars to properly store it.
But, my utmost concern is why the boat is sitting duck doing nothing when criminal activities in the Gulf of Guinea hasn't diminish? Guess some things are beyond us.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 10:01pm On Mar 01, 2018
Nigeria Navy should imbibe culture of proper storage of not-in-use patrol boats. One of the recently purchased French-built OCEA FPB 72 patrol boats, has been gathering dust in Lagos dock since God knows when. Everyday I pass through the area, not far from CBD Lagos, it always looks dustier than it was the week before. Maybe, this coming rain will do the washing for them.
BTW, aren't they supposed to have some proper storage place such as we have hangars for aircrafthuh
Crime › Re: 1,000 Houses Burnt In Kasuwan Magani As Kaduna Mayhem Worsens by Xbee007(m): 4:35pm On Mar 01, 2018
jpphilips:
Why are you asking for just state police to quell religious war? why are you not asking for Navy seals? y re you not asking for national guard? why are you not asking for NSA for proactive intelligence? when you are empty, politicians sell their dumb narratives to you, when next a politician tells you State police is all you need, tell him sorry that you want to try the National guard, or reformed civil defense, can you do that? People fighting over girls you are telling us crap about state police.
It is a matter of time but:
State Police and Community Policing is gonna happen.
True Federalism is gonna happen.
I am not a pawn of any politician. They don't do reasoning for me, I do it myself.
BTW, I have never suggested State police and True Federalism are the absolute solutions to the myriads of problems we are battling. However, they are steps in the right direction.
Crime › Re: 1,000 Houses Burnt In Kasuwan Magani As Kaduna Mayhem Worsens by Xbee007(m): 2:21pm On Mar 01, 2018
jpphilips:
Why are you asking for just state police to quell religious war? why are you not asking for Navy seals? y re you not asking for national guard? why are you not asking for NSA for proactive intelligence? when you are empty, politicians sell their dumb narratives to you, when next a politician tells you State police is all you need, tell him sorry that you want to try the National guard, or reformed civil defense, can you do that? People fighting over girls you are telling us crap about state police.
You know, you could still express your opinion without resorting to unnecessary insults.
Bye
Christianity Etc › The Woman Who Hears Voices in her Head. by Xbee007(op):
In late 2015, a 48-year-old woman presented herself to the psychiatric emergency service in Bern, Switzerland with several deep, self-inflicted stab-wounds to her chest. Some measured up to 7cm (2.75in) deep.

She told the physicians that she had followed direct orders from God.

It was a strange case, but not completely unusual, according to psychiatrist Sebastian Walther who first met Sarah in hospital and told BBC Future about her case, as she wished to remain anonymous. Walther recalls that she had a demeanour of “distinctly feeling blessed”, and that she heard voices every minute or so, sometimes lasting for hours. To her they were “divine” and “persistently enjoyable”, despite the fact that these voices gave her deadly instructions.

A brain scan revealed something even more surprising, Sarah had a tumour in a very critical place in her brain, disturbing a “sweet spot” of networks important for processing sound.

How to live with 100 voices inside your head
I can remember every day of my life
My dentist extracted my memory
While most of us can clearly distinguish between outside sounds and our inner thoughts, many people hear voices – with estimates ranging from 5% to as high as 19% of the general population. Some are benign. But some, when coupled with other mental health issues, can be more distressing. These were the kind of voices Sarah heard.

Auditory hallucinations, like those she experienced, show just how fragile our brain’s auditory input can be. Her case provides a window into how our perceptual processes work and how easily they can be confused.

Detail of the painting 'The Taking of Christ' (1602) by Italian Baroque artist Caravaggio
The voices Sarah heard reveal how fragile our perception is (Credit: Getty Images)
The first step in solving the mystery of Sarah’s behaviour involved diving into her past, to investigate how long she had experienced any similar symptoms. An interest in religion was nothing new for her; she had shown spells of fundamentalist religious interest since the age of 13. This would periodically return but it was never long-lasting.

It was first presumed that Sarah had schizophrenia, because of her auditory hallucinations, but she did not fit the classical symptoms. She did not retreat from social contexts or experience low levels of motivation. “This didn’t apply to her, she was kind of special,” says Walther.

The brain can adapt to the stress of such a tumour over time

When a brain scan revealed her tumour, Walther realised that her brain network has been “disturbed” in a very critical spot, affecting the way she experiences sounds. Walther estimates that the tumour could have been there since adolescence, which was also when her religious interest began.

Once Walther studied her medical history and symptoms, he noted that she had had only four “periods of symptoms” and they were always the same: she would hear divine voices, feel extremely religious, and bond to religious groups. But this interest would disappear as soon as it came on, and she would feel nothing similar for years until the cycle started once more.

The patient heard distressing voices, which she believed to be messages from God
The patient heard distressing voices, which she believed to be messages from God (Credit: Getty Images)
Putting these symptoms together with the location of her tumour, Walther and his colleagues say it’s most likely that her delusional hallucinations were a direct result of the tumour, even though her symptoms appeared suddenly several times throughout her life. That’s because her tumour appears to be the type that is extremely slow-growing, with a very gradual increase over a long period of time.

That her symptoms only periodically appeared can be explained, they say, because the brain can adapt to the stress of such a tumour over time. “Therefore, we think that it is very likely that the tumour has challenged the network periodically for several weeks or months, which is when the patient experienced these symptoms,” says Walther. Further, the lump in her brain was a benign tumour that does not grow invasively or grow out of control (metastasize), as cancerous tumours do. A second brain scan revealed that her tumour was stable, but due to its location, neither surgery nor radiation was possible.

Walther’s startling conclusion, outlined in the journal Frontiers of Psychiatry, was based on previous knowledge that Sarah’s tumour encroached on areas important for hearing sound, while lesions to nearby spots can increase feelings of “self-transcendence” similar to that shown by Sarah.

Her interest in religion clearly played a role in the content of what her voices told her to do. Unusually, this interest itself could also have been a result of the tumour. That’s because it infiltrated the auditory cortex as it leads into the temporal lobe – a brain area that when disturbed, has been linked to increased levels of spiritual interest in temporal lobe epilepsy patients. The tumour in Sarah’s brain also affected other brain areas linked to “strong spirituality”.

The patient experienced several episodes of obsessive religious interest
The patient experienced several episodes of obsessive religious interest (Credit: Getty Images)
Of course, from one rare case study such as this, it’s difficult to attribute definitively that her tumour caused her to be religious. However, the authors note that other cases have shown that magnetically stimulating nearby areas in the brain also impacts religiousness and spirituality.

The brain has to rely on guesswork to keep our continuous perception going

Although rare, there are similar cases in the medical literature, though none that match Sarah’s case directly. There was one instance when a female experienced “hyper religiosity” as a result of a fatal brain tumour. This 60-year-old woman had no previous interest in religion, it came on suddenly, and she did not hear voices. Alberto Carmona-Bayonas, who studied this patient in Meseguer General University Hospital in Spain, explains that her tumour was located in the right temporal lobe “for which there is an abundance of previous literature on this phenomenology, especially in epileptics”.

He is keen though, to stress the clear difference between pathological cases such as these and “normal people's beliefs and feelings”. Sarah and this patient show something that is already well understood, that the personalities of people with brain tumors can change, sometimes for the better. How they change largely depends on the particular brain area involved.

Sarah's brain tumour disrupted the networks involved for processing sound
Sarah's brain tumour disrupted the networks involved for processing sound (Credit: Getty Images)
Sarah’s case though is still surprising. It is unique because her tumour grew so slowly and the symptoms therefore reoccurred. As her tumour changed over time then, her interest in religion grew and waned. And when a particular part of her brain (the thalamus) was disturbed, it resulted in her hearing voices. Although medication reduced these hallucinations, when she came off it, they returned.

To understand how her tumour caused her symptoms, it helps to understand how we all process sound. One neuroscientist looking into it is Kristiina Kompus of the University of Bergen in Norway. She’s trying to solve the mystery of why some people hear an “inner voice” just as if it is a real one.

One of the reasons auditory hallucinations sound so real is because the same pathways in the brain are involved for real and imaginary voices. “So all the brain areas related to speech processing and auditory processing seem to be very intimately involved in generating the experience of hallucinated voices,” says Kompus.

Hallucinations therefore tell us more about how our perception works. The thalamus – which for Sarah is impaired by her tumour – plays a fundamental and early role in processing what we hear before it is sent to other brain areas to be interpreted. The sensory information we see and hear around us first comes into the thalamus – think of it as a relay station that routes what we see and hear to the necessary cortex for sorting.

People who hear voices often hear their own 'inner speech' out loud
People who hear voices often hear their own 'inner speech' out loud (Credit: Getty Images)
This area then has to work hard at putting it together into meaningful information. This is “based on very sparse information that comes across the auditory nerve,” says Kompus. Unfortunately whenever information is noisy, unreliable or doesn’t seem to be right, the brain “has to rely on guesswork to keep our continuous perception going”.

It is her particular impairment playing tricks with her mind

Sarah’s case highlights that the sensory information that we get from the outside only plays a small part of what we eventually interpret. Instead we often rely on expectations and predictions. If our thalamus is not working as it should, either because it is impaired or is simply physically thinner (as is often the case in individuals with schizophrenia), it’s no wonder that the rest of our auditory processing is affected.

That Sarah’s particular voices were religious could have been a result of her earlier interest in religion, as people who hear voices often hear their own “inner speech” out loud. “Quite often the hallucinations have to do with the themes that are important to one particular individual,” says Kompus. Hearing voices, she explains, is not a by-product of a mental health issue in itself, but negative voices can of course make an individual feel worse. “If ‘someone’ constantly tells you ‘you are worthless, stupid, and to kill yourself’, it’s no wonder that depression and anxiety is going to get worse.”

While Sarah still has her faith, her distressing voices no longer taunt her. She has learnt to live well with her tumour, holds down a steady job and now knows that the voices return, it is her particular impairment playing tricks with her mind, and she can now can seek help before acting out on some of the more distressing commands.
Source:
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20180227-the-woman-whose-tumour-made-her-religion-deadly

Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 6:17pm On Feb 28, 2018
jakeporeshenko:
It appears the newly inducted TSAIGUMI has also joined the search
That is CH-3.
******
The MI35M is also carrying a good number of ATGMs.
Culture › Re: The Message A Man Received From A Nigerian And An Argentinian Lady Over Culture by Xbee007(m): 3:21pm On Feb 28, 2018
Ikenna17:
Why was he being insulted, is he an atheist or something?
Obviously, he is freed from the shackle of mental slavery.
Politics › Re: "Only Prayers Can Bring Back Dapchi Girls" - Dolapo Osinbajo by Xbee007(m): 2:41pm On Feb 28, 2018
Ayodejioak:
Prayer is key. I agree 100%

But prayer without action is dead!
In order words prayer is pointless. You can pray and fast from tomorrow till next year, if you don't act nothing will happen.
Crime › Re: Armed Robbers Caught On CCTV Camera During An Operation - Video by Xbee007(m): 2:31pm On Feb 28, 2018
In which country did the incident happened cos the victim's plate number doesn't look Nigerian.
Crime › Re: 1,000 Houses Burnt In Kasuwan Magani As Kaduna Mayhem Worsens by Xbee007(m): 2:23pm On Feb 28, 2018
Jpphilips, this people don start their stupid religious war again. They are the major reason we can't have state police in Nigeria.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 1:31pm On Feb 28, 2018
Politics › Re: I Want To Be Nigeria's President - Donald Duke by Xbee007(m): 9:36am On Feb 28, 2018
Solidly behind you.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Land Reform In South Africa - Discuss! by Xbee007(m): 9:31am On Feb 28, 2018
newafricaken254:
[s]n@ggas can't farm,thats a fact.thats why Africa is the most fertile continent in the world but most africans survive on food AID or food exports from the rest of the world[/s]
Nonsense!
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Xbee007(m): 8:44am On Feb 27, 2018
Stephandeswardt:
I swear boko haram looted a quarter of nigerian army inventory.....even benin republic couldnt have fought BHT at its peak of strength.....jesus
Are you talking about this recent attack?
Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m):
newafricaken254:
Kenya fails to commit to acquisition of 12 Air Tractors from US
Thumbs up Kenya. That is the way to go. I was wondering what you needed those aircrafts for any way.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 8:52pm On Feb 26, 2018
^^^^^
shocked shocked shocked Back then in Gwoza. BHTs lose big during that operation.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Land Reform In South Africa - Discuss! by Xbee007(m): 8:03am On Feb 26, 2018
Lionessza:
What exactly were you saying in that stupid post of yours? .
Two wrongs will never make a right, fact.
The white and black population in SA should figure out mutually acceptable ways to properly redistribute the lands. But that should never entail giving out lands for free to blacks just because they are blacks. As a Nigerian, I am fully aware of the inherent danger in giving people preferential treatments just because of the color of the skin, religion, tribe, etc.
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Xbee007(m): 11:03pm On Feb 25, 2018
MikeCZA:
*Billion Naira doesn't get eaten by animals like snakes and monkeys* Fixed!! grin grin grin grin
Actually, there are anacondas and gorillas that would eat a billion naira in at a go. grin
Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 10:42pm On Feb 25, 2018
jpphilips:
it is one thing to identify a problem, it is another to have the ability to solve it, what you just said is not a solution to the problem you earlier mentioned...

Look, I am not saying Federal Police should be abolished, even though they have failed time and again and are not performing their core mandate. State Police will exist under the jurisdiction/oversight of F.P.

Ironically, the states that are viciously objecting to S.P are those that are always prone to barbaric inter-ethnic violence. They are the one that are quick to slaughter other countrymen just because of some stupid Charlie Hebdo in France or Denmark's Miss World. I am sure you still remember those incidents.
And the likelihood of the civil war happening would have been greatly reduced if they didn't turn the North to slaughterhouse of other countrymen!

They said they are scared of Politicians turning State Police Officers to their personal thugs, so we should be stuck with this messed up system. Can you sincerely tell me that the Federal Police we have now are not personal thugs of politicians and civilians alike? Just this afternoon, I heard a story of how a wealthy "Madam" locked a 17yrs old teenager in police cells just for purportedly stealing less than 50cent worth of yoghurt. The boy was tortured right in front of his helpless and uneducated parents. (Me, I think they are just plain stupid cos I will never watch some overzealous buffoons treat my children bad.)

Obviously, there are States that are overripe for State Police in Nigeria, FG should use them as a pilot scheme to test run the proposal.

If it's State Police and True Federalism that will break Nigeria apart, then it simply means we should never have been together in the first place.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 7:26pm On Feb 24, 2018
newafricaken254:
compare the size of those fuzes you posted and that thing
Truly, that BHT fuze is massive. Never seen anything like it before, which was why I initially suggested it was locally fabricated since it was seen in their metal plant
Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 7:04pm On Feb 24, 2018
Possibly an artillery fuze.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m):
jakeporeshenko:
What NAF platform drops a bomb with a fuse this large huh
Is Boko Haram trying to develop hell cannons ?
Probably manufactured by BHT metal factory. This reminds me of the 2015 propaganda pics by BHTs.
https://www.nairaland.com/2699598/boko-haram-releases-pictures-rocket
*********
Going through the comments section now, I just saw a post of someone actually giving the location of rocket BHT rocket manufacturing plant which the person deduced from the pics.

Shhhh, they were manufacturing the rockets in a secondary school in Bama

Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 12:04pm On Feb 24, 2018
On the Dapchi School Girl Kidnapping.
Nigerian Government has succeeded in overstretching its military capability. Currently, there are just very few states in our country where one form of military activity or the other isn't ongoing. We adjudicate police work to military personnel as we sink deeper into this abyss of nonsense.

So, when smart and progressive folks suggested State and Community policing, some dotards were drooling "state folice my foot." Well where were the military and Federal police when the state and the community needed them mosthuh

What if we have State Police with each state training and arming its officers according to its immediate need? Do you think they would abandon their children so BHTs could easily capture themhuh

Food for thought.
Business › Re: Speculators Get Their Fingers Burnt, Naira Strengthens To N310/$(2016) by Xbee007(m): 7:41am On Feb 24, 2018
Fake news! The naira is just as usefulless as ever.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Land Reform In South Africa - Discuss! by Xbee007(m): 11:51pm On Feb 23, 2018
jln115:
Sorry my bad...... Anyway in that case I agree with what you said!!
Reading my post again, I think I might have unintentionally suggested the point you just raised by using the word "not" two words early.
It should have been, "...I am saying this not because I think SA's black population are incapable of..."
Foreign Affairs › Re: Land Reform In South Africa - Discuss! by Xbee007(m): 11:22pm On Feb 23, 2018
jln115:
I agree with most of your points.

But a few things a differ on:

- saying black SANs are incapable of sustaining and managing the farming business is a very naive thing to say, there are quite a few very successful black commercial farmers, but unfortunately the vast majority of would be farmers simply don't have the resources/skill to farm commercially, they have the potential to, but government refuses to actually invest in thees individuals.
I never said black SAs are incapable. Read again.
Foreign Affairs › Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Xbee007(m): 11:16pm On Feb 23, 2018
saengine:
Great video showing how the Rooivalk 20 mm canon is slaved to the helmet mounted sights.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZjNjPtPeEs
Impressive slew rate.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 10:48pm On Feb 23, 2018
jpphilips:
That is a misinformed position, most of those released are mostly family members of bht arrested during mass raids, most of them in rehab are basically folks abducted to fight against their will, once they had the chance, they voluntarily surrendered to the military , have you considered the human rights implication of continued keeping those folks in detention? Have you considered how valuable their intel is? There are rules of engagement bro!!

Prisoner exchange is an integral part of modern warfare, every country does it, agreed it reinvigorates their insurgency on the flip side, both parties have a new chance to fight from a possessed advantage point.
Look at it this way, imagine if the previous admin did not deny Hedima, but opted to exchange him for a commander or some cash, we would have had a bad ass experienced pilot on a personal mission of vandetta.
What do you think he will do to BHT once he gained his freedom?
You can argue the same for the terrorist we released, in the end, we all live to fight another day.
Your points are salient but just because we want urgent results shouldn't mean we throw all caution to the wind.
We are reinvigorating them if keep telling them they can kidnap our citizens, all they need is demand for ransom and we will pay.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 7:29pm On Feb 23, 2018
jln115:
Can barely buy a single Tucano with N5 Bil let alone nukes!! grin grin grin
Are you mocking our nairahuh
Not cool grin grin
Jokes!! anyway you have any idea what they mean by nuclear equipment.
Journalism in Nigeria has gone to the dog.

Foreign Affairs › Re: Land Reform In South Africa - Discuss! by Xbee007(m):
Edited
It is saddening, unfair and wrong that the black population in SA today do not have equal access to land as their white counterpart. It is a dire situation that needs urgent remedy. However, snatching back the land from the white population and handing it back to blacks for free will be a terrible decision. Two wrongs don't make a right.

It won't just breed deep seethed hatred and enmity, but also have a cataclysmic effect on SA's economy. You don't want to go the way of Zimbabwe. I am saying this not because I think SA black population are incapable of managing and sustaining the farming business. Far from it, there are thousands of very successful farmers in my country and they aren't white. I am saying this because I am aware the farming business is daunting, risky and requires significant amount of capital if you are ever going to succeed. White farmers can easily raise the necessary capital because of the network of quality connections they have formed as well as the wealth of experience they have acquired in the farming business plus white privileges.

Nothing kills countries' progress faster than stifling meritocracy. It is a subtle precussor for disaster when you indirectly tell people that they don't need to struggle for wealth, land, jobs etc... All they need is just to have the right skin color, belong to the right ethnic or religious group, speak the right language.

As a Nigerian, with working experience in the public sector, I can confidently proclaim that when you give out lands, jobs and positions to people just because of the color of their skin, ethnic group, religion and whatnots you are shooting yourself in the foot. I have seen real unlettered people in Nigeria public sector holding positions that in saner progressive climes they would never dream of. What productive contribution can such people bring to the table? It shouldn't come as a surprise, if I tell you that some of those people are there to just fleece the institution of valuable resources. Daily, some of them connive with the storekeepers and fleece us of resources.

I believe, both whites and black population in SA can sit and map out decisions that can favour both parties. There is a popular saying in my language, "oun tí a kò sisé fún kii pę lówó rárá. Oun tí abá sisé fún ní pé lówó eni." Meaning, "what you don't struggle for will never last long. But what you toil hard for will definitely last longer." It isn't rocket science.

The black needs to genuinely understand that if they want to enjoy the goodies that the white population in SA currently enjoys, they need to work harder. Double your hussle!
There is one major impediment though, the religious credulousity among SA black population is mind boggling. And the cancer of "prosperity doctrine" is sweeping across Africa at a disturbing speed. Too many black people literally believe that they can pray their way out of abject penury. They will eat grass and top it with petrol!
They seriously need to understand their fate is in their hands. They are the architect of their own destiny.
Work hard and smart and the sky will be your starting point.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 4:15pm On Feb 23, 2018
jpphilips:
https://www.channelstv.com/2018/02/22/yobe-govt-makes-u-turn-retracts-statement-rescue-schoolgirls/
2014 dejavu!!
It's obvious that BHTs succeeded in kidnapping those students. That is their new found money mine. How much million of Euro/dollars are they going to request for this time aroundhuh

This administration alone has paid billions of naira in cash to the terrorists. They have freed dozens of hardened Boko Haram commanders in captivity. To make matter worse, they are releasing in droves ex-BHTs in captivity tagging them "repentant ex-members." How are they sure they would not just go back to their terrorism business?

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