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lionel4power:
A fellow Nigerian just insulted your PRESIDENT on a public forum... lets see your reaction.. lets see your PATRIOTISM

proof attached below.


Now is the best time...

Lol, Kabe1 only logs in on NL after taking some spirits that is why he is always unnecessarily hostile. Learn to ignore his rants.

Primesky:
God said " I will greatly increase thy pain..." So the pain was already there. So please, don't try to discredit the word of God. The pain women have is more than what its supposed to be. Take it or live it. Thanks.

What of women that gave birth through Caesarean? They don't feel any pain at all.

lionel4power:
Now you are talking like an adult without insults isn't it better?


First when we heard the deal, I and a few other Nigerians criticized it vehemently. We questioned the rationale behind the exorbitant price. (I can go back the THREAD and screen shot it for you if you want.)

Meanwhile other Nigerians insulted me and called me all sorts of Names... Unpatriotic, low self esteem, double agent e.t.c. They defended the deal they said it was the best deal in the world. Someone even wrote an epistle of how the Tucano would come with PGMs that is unheard off anywhere in Africa and why it would be better than the mokopa. I was forced to keep quiet for 'superior argument' to prevail.....

It's all there go and check and confirm.

The problem is we Nigerians don't even know what we want, today we say this tomorrow another thing.. Contradictory statements all the time. I can name a few people who supported the deal at that time but are now saying something else now.

If the FG announce that they are considering a platform we will first come here and praise that platform to sky heaven, then before you know it someone would start comparing it with the South Africans, it always end in comparison. At the end we won't get it. Then next would be the blame game.

Don't follow others along that path bros, try to reason objectively.

I can remember the exchanges that happened on this thread right after the deal was announced. Most of us lauded the deal not because we're unaware it was stupidly exorbitant but because we know further negotiations will still take place. Plus the prospect/euphoria of Nigeria finally having an aircraft to stand firmly against her enemies made most of us exhibit ambivalent attitudes towards the deal.

But what I will not take is someone labelling my country with the usual stereotypical balderdash. Nigerian government didn't quote the figures obtainable in USA DOD report.
Nigeria has not erred in anyway by requesting for the aircraft!

lionel4power:
1) First of all when you finally grow up you'll understand that everybody has his/her own opinion. If it offends you then grow a thicker skin.

2) This is a PUBLIC FORUM. when you add 'PUBLIC' and 'FORUM' together... What enters your mind? One day you'll get it...

3) ONLINE there is no faction, group, team, sect, coalition or whatever notion you have in your head. Nobody knows each other here. Nobody cares about you here.

4) why do i get the feeling that you are just looking for a quarrel or thread fight? do you crave attention?

5) Your opinion do not count online. it did not count yesterday, it does not count today, it probably won't count tomorrow.

6) Try to communicate constructively, not like a child. stop making Nigeria look bad.

7) finally, you are the only person still agitating... what do you intend to achieve? what's you aim? are you going to get paid?

8-) Nobody has a monopoly of insult, we just don't see the need to waste valuable time.

Please don't insult me again.

I don't know what you gain by joining them in always portraying Nigeria in a bad light. Admittedly, we have our unique challenges but they also have theirs. Tell me a country that isn't battling one form of corruption or the other in this world today. Just because Nigerians talk about it a lot shouldn't be seen as an endorsement of corruption.

Since the day one of the Tucano deal with USA, they have been blaming Nigerians for being corrupt. How about they blame the real culprit, USA for quoting such a high price? And it is not even as if Nigeria has agreed to pay the exorbitant price. If the term "negotiation" is alien to SAs I am sure as a Nigerian you a pretty familiar with it. So why the fuss? Why the usual blame game on Nigeria? Why can't we wait till the day Nigeria pays the money before the usual criticism? Why, why, why?

The El Banawi faction mostly operate around the lake Chad region. Looting Niger's armoury dry.

******
Flare dispenser on NAF's MI35M.

frumentius:
Exactly what I said on bidexiii's thread. And where did they buy them? Armed exactly like Nigeria's - which some people keep saying it's not corrupt inflated prices - with integration by Israel's Elbit Systems.

The only 2 countries who bought their Tucanos from the Florida plant were Afghanistan and Lebanon. Both paid close to what Nigeria will pay if the deal goes ahead. The US govt paid for Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia paid for Lebanon.
If not for corrupt backhanders, why is Nigeria not going directly to Brazil?

How many times do we have to remind you that Nigeria attempted to get the plane from Brazil but was blocked by USA? How many times before it sinks in?
http://www.airforce.mil.ng/post-brazil_to_sell_3_super_tucano_aircraft_to_nigeria

You're just busy repeating the ill informed stereotypical comments you guys make of Nigeria. Fyi, not everyone in Nigeria is corrupt, there are good people in Nigeria too. It may be difficult for you to accept but it is the truth.

Plus, it is not as if Nigeria has already paid the $600million for the deal so why are you guys taking paracetamol for another man's headache?

lionel4power:
I believe 'we' Nigerians are now getting wiser. The self esteemed rhetoric has died down a bit.






Realities are now dawning.




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I believe it's due to the self-esteemed self-acclaimed leader being on self-imposed exile.

You be sellout bro.
U can give him a bl*wj*b while you are at it.

jpphilips:
The pakistani deal was already sealed before Trump struck same with the Palestinian deal, what makes you think yours will be any different? same Trump that helped us scale through the legislative hurdle when the going was good, think about it!!

In the Pakistani deal, USA spends lots of monies in aids and what have they been getting in return? Heck, Osama bin Laden was killed in Pakistan. The US sees them as safe haven for most wanted terrorists. So why continue dolling out money to friends of your enemies?

The Nigerian deal on the other hand is a totally different ball game. They are gaining from the deal too. US jobs will be created and Trump get to fulfill his campaign promises. Win-win situation.
Another instance is Saudi Arabia. They don't even recognise the state of Israel yet that will never stop US from selling state of the arts weapons to them. Their human right abuses is legendary, but money speaks. Ègo naim dey decide mostly.

jpphilips:
Basic common sense dictates that when one signs a half a billion deal, you do whatever is necessary to see it through regardless of one's political compass.

Trust me, our vote on Israel changed nothing. The deal had been finalised before Trump's charade.

Josfactz:
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Wow. But these people don snatch plenty assets from NA. Thank goodness we are retrieving them back.

Improvement in synergy between NAF and NA is really yielding positive results.

What do you call a country with more religious houses than factories?
SHITHOLE!

StevieGee27:
She won’t go anywhere because she’s dead. Heaven or Earth don’t exist

I hope her children grow up to understand that someday.

jpphilips:
When we voted against the US interest in Jerusalem, we should be expecting serious consequence.

It is Nigeria's policy since inception never to support apartheid regimes.

Tosinex:
the same place murderers will end, because she is a murderer by killing her self. Anyone that commit suicide is a murderer, let's leave all judgements to God who knows and understands all things. It's true she's depressed but the scripture says in all things Give thanks, don't let the devil get a foothold in your life by putting depression on you. Depression is from the devil no matter what you are going through rejoice and Give Thanks, for the Apostles and the pioneers of faith even the martyrs suffered much worst things and yet didn't terminate their own life but rest in the hope of glory to come which they obtain through faith, Amen.

Wow!

Zither:
It is unfortunate but truth be told she is not going to heaven. No murderer will spend eternity in heaven with God. So sad but fact.

So she will also burn in hell eternally like the likes of Adolf Hitler, Shekau and other mass murders? Is that justice.
Note, she didn't kill herself, it was depression (a mental illness) that made her do what she did.

Boko asked for it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hlgpevtIao

A Nigerian Air Force (NAF) remotely piloted aircraft (RPA), on 27 January 2018, successfully destroyed an artillery gun and some gun trucks belonging to the Boko Haram Terrorists (BHTs) in the Sambisa Forest. A NAF Intelligence Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR) platform and the RPA had observed the terrorists withdrawing with the artillery gun and gun trucks after an unsuccessful operation. The NAF crews on both the ISR and the armed RPA trailed the withdrawing insurgents to their final destination in Parisu. Thereafter, the RPA acquired the artillery gun position and attacked the piece, causing a huge explosion and destroying the equipment. The explosion also killed insurgents operating the equipment and those around it while a few others were sighted fleeing from the site of the explosion. The successful air strikes are part of the ongoing coordinated air and land operations aimed at ridding the Sambisa Forest of the remnants of the insurgents.

OLATOKUNBO ADESANYA
Air Vice Marshal
Director of Public
Relations and Information

From religion to to religion. Not a significant change here peeps.

vaxx:
i am aware of this allegation, although it is not well founded, but you can not also deny their impact in the development of western civilization. i encourage you to read the book. the book is not a catholic book so there is no bias .it is purely academic.

It is an insult on the millions of dead people persecuted by religious folks to say the allegations are not well founded.
Don't attempt to rewrite history cos these incidents are well documented.

Wapkoshcom:
Can you Bleep off?

The lewd post in question has been deleted by the mods so no need wasting time on dunderheads like you. Bye

vaxx:
you can not be smarter than the book. the book is an authority as it contain lot of references....

Catholic Church contributed nothing to this world order than death and destruction. If it were left to them we would still be burning little girls as witches just because thunder randomly strikes some churches. It is surprising how they managed to take glory for everything thousands of scientists sacrificed their lives for.

nemesis4u:
Well when we write posts sometimes it ends up giving another impression / thought which we did not mean explicitly...

I understand the importance of letting people freely air their opinion and respecting it whether it goes down well with me or it doesn't, that is why I never engage in e-insults. Frum is an esteem member of this forum, plus his experience most of us here only have a glimpse of it in video games or movies. Heck, I have never even touched a helicopter before, weird isn't it? Though, been few metres away from an ex-president's helicopter convoy before.

But for the sake of elevated arguments, we are free to disagree with people regardless of their wealth of experience. I will disagree with a US general if he tells me that Nigeria doesn't need Smart munitions to defeat Boko Haram militarily. I have seen videos of how A-Jets with dumb bombs perform in close combat situations, utterly useless to be candid.

However, that doesn't mean I don't know war isn't always about bullets and bombs. With good intelligence you could end a war before it even starts. BHTs festered because of lack of quality intelligence. Sadly, they will continue to grow if we don't improve our intelligence gathering and no amount of Super Tucano or SU35 could end that. It is a bitter pill but it is the truth.

frumentius:
Please just refrain from exposing more of your ignorance on a public platform.
These are the countries listed by the US State Department as explicitly denied US arms under the Leahy Amendments:
Bangladesh, Bolivia, Colombia, Guatemala, Mexico, Nigeria, Turkey, Indonesia, Lebanon, Saint Lucia and Venezuela.
Why were they placed there? Because they were not officially sanctioned, but were on the State Department list as human rights violators, at a specific point in time. Which means they could be removed, pursuant to improvements in human rights by the country concerned.

Now to your main assertion - apart from Colombia and Ecuador - which closed La Manta Military Base to the US - can you name these US bases in the South American countries on my list of Tucano operators? Our Defence Attaches in S. America are clearly doing a piss-poor job compared to a LTGen on nairaland.

In conclusion: the point is that the Nigerian taxpayer is being swindled. There is absolutely no justification -bar corruption- for 12 Tucanos to cost US$400-500m, even if they come with precision-guided weapons that Nigeria doesn't need to prosecute a counter-insurgency strategy.
If Nigeria is off the Leahy list - as implied by US approvals for US procurement of the Tucano, why not call their bluff and procure affordably from Brazil, as so many with worse human rights records have done?

Occam's Razor: assuming you're a taxpayer; you're being swindled.
But, I'm a Saffer, so wetin concern me?

@the bolded in Frum's post.

nemesis4u:
Humans r inherently defeatist. Every single step forward ends up 2 step backwards without them even realizing it.

And who said PGMs r not required for CI/CT ops being pursued in the north ?

nemesis4u:
I will start the necessary paperwork for u,
I must warn u the waiting list is too long

Whatever it takes Sir. I don't understand people in this planet anymore.

Here is a quotation from Forbes magazine that clearly states that, "Over 80% of the A-29 Super Tucano components are produced in the United States or in countries that qualify under the Buy American Act."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2013/03/22/lawsuit-aside-u-s-air-force-sticks-by-brazilian-fighter-plane-purchase/#77a0128958fc
In essence no country will get the Super Tucano without USA's blessing.
We all remembered NAF made attempt too but was blocked by US under Obama's Democrats.
http://www.airforce.mil.ng/post-brazil_to_sell_3_super_tucano_aircraft_to_nigeria
Perhaps if NAF renew the deal we might get lucky this time around.

Hmm, "Nigeria doesn't need precision guided weapons to prosecute counterinsurgency strategy."
I have seen it all. Eartheans off to Mars. I am joining nemesis there.

danvon:
Op your story did she cut herself she was bleeding or was it sniper she drank which one killed her

The sniper caused her to be bleeding from places like, eyes, ears, nose, private part etc.

jteku:
...

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155176242337703&id=96184337702

Misleading info, they just finished a course in Jaji cantonment. Don't be misled by sensational Sahara reporter.

QueenBeeHive:
I've been thinking of doing it.
But how will i suffer on earth and go suffer in hell too

Please don't let depression deny you the beauty of life. You are in total control of your life, please make wise choice.

Religious folks can so insensitive sometimes. I remember, back in 2017, sitting in a bus next to this woman while I was in Abuja. Clad in a blouse and skirt with an headtie, typical of Deeper Life Christians. She wouldn't stop singing praise songs throughout the journey. Then we got to the bridge where an accident just happened overnight. The mangled car was still there, bloods splattered everywhere.
The accident claimed 7 lives.
https://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/city-news/auto-crash-kills-7-on-kubwa-highway/196370.html
People were generally speaking of how their parents would be devastated, until this woman dropped a bombshell. "They are going to hellfire straight," she said and scoffed. People rebuffed her but she was adamant. She was so insensitive as fvck.
She still remains the most annoying person I have ever met in my life.

True life story.
Just last week, a young woman, with children and a husband, committed suicide in Iyana Iba Lagos. She lived in her home built by her husband. She apparently died after drinking Sniper.
Her story:
Until her death, she wakes up every morning to preach the words of God to people. With a very loud voice, she wakes people up with her morning jingles. Some are okay with it while others feel early morning preachers constitute nuisance to the society. I think they constitute nuisance to the society, because they wake you with their noises at odd hours. I used "they" because she isn't the only one. Some of them have been barred from our area, in fact by fellow Christians.

Recently, she was afflicted by an eye problem. She couldn't see for quite sometime. However, lately there have been tremendous improvement in her eye sight, until she ended her life by drinking sniper.

The day she committed suicide:
Many people saw her in the morning. In fact, a friend said they both conversed on the day of the sad incident. People got to know something was wrong when their dog wouldn't stop vigorously barking. Something very unusual. Her little daughter later checked on her and told neighbours her mother was very ill, so they rushed inside. The horror that laid before them was unfathomable.
She laid there barely alive, heavily bleeding from almost every holes in her body. Laying on her hand is an empty bottle of sniper.
She gave up the ghost before reaching the hospital. Sad!

A shocking thing happened.
Just hours after her death, her fellow Christians were already discussing the hell fire she would burn in. NOT DAYS O, JUST FEW HOURS LATER.
They were clearly sad that she "started well" but end "disastrously". I felt sick to my stomach!
How can human being be so cruel to their fellow human? How will the children of the deceased feel if they were to hear this discussions?

So, I am asking, am I right to think they are wrong to speak ill of their fellow Christians or truly she would burn in the same hell as Shekau just because she committed suicide?

Lalasticlala, check this out.

jakeporeshenko:
Now even the PR is in sync, NA releases a the story of what happened on the ground with pictures to support it and NAF releases footage of the same battle from the air! Awesome

Bad day to be a Boko terrorist.

prettyirene:
Hello people..happy New year..pls is it late to apply I'm for post graduate degree in UI. I just opened there admission portal and I was told to pay 18000 for late registration. My course interest in public health.. institute of child health. Please I will appreciate your response.

They are done with registration already. TPE and make-up TPE have been done. Most people here are only waiting for admission lists.