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SundayPhilip:
@xfire and other experienced fellow. Please i need an urgent advice on this. I am a graduate of agric engineering and i want to add more value to myself by enrolling for piping engineering training. Please is it a nice decision, as per, possibility of getting a job easily. Please advice me and b blessed.

Piping engineering is good. You get to work in engineering /oil servicing companies that deal with piping designs. What training are you going for specifically?
Why not go for an MSc instead?
BTW, direct this to any of the several oil and gas related threads. Mention me if you need my assistance.

It all depends on your discipline, the industry in focus and your career goals.
Taking engineering as an example, it is far more preferable in many instances to go for a masters than to get professional certifications.
For graduates with zero experience, oil companies will most likely choose masters degree holders over bachelors degree holders with professional certifications (assuming their performances at the interviews are all at par). A few notable firms in Nigeria also favour masters degree holders, eventhough the advert may simply state a minimum of BSc. Adverts doesn't always count. There is usually some level of PR considerations when putting up an advert, especially for big firms. It's the actual recruitment that matters at the end of the whole process.
The story is however different if you consider a course like accounting. A graduate with an ICAN or ACCA certification will most likely be placed over masters degree holder in accounting.
Another important consideration is that some fields require professional certification to be able to practice. In such fields, a masters may count for nothing.
That's why it's wise to consult widely before taking any step rather than making blanket conclusions that professional courses are better than masters degree, or vice versa.

naijanoni:
As a mechanical engineering student,tbh in the 4 yrs i've spent in school so far i dont think i've learnt much.
The mentality of both the students and lecturers here is 'cram and get good grades'.
The lecturers even endorse this.
We cram mathematics,cram calculations,cram everything.No practical works.
All we do is cram !!!
Cram to pass a course,even if it means forgetting everything u crammed hours after the exam.
[b]Right now I'm not depending on school for knowledge,
I'm learning on my own,[/b]because depending on school is just a waste of time.

Hmmmm.....good observation. Make sure you graduate with good grades anyway. You will find it helpful whatever path you may choose to follow.
@the bolded. Do that and you will surely be a quintessential mechanical engineer.

Okay guys / ladies,

I have not been on the thread for a few days. I temporarily got some added responsibilities at my workplace and in my personal life.

I digress a bit.....

Lemme give a brief explanation on the minor challenge at my workplace which has kept me busy for the past few days and has prevented me from updating the thread:

My workload has increased over the past few days because my boss has given me some added responsibilities. I am currently working with a colleague on a major assignment with a deadline of December 2014. Unfortunately, my colleague has not been as effective as expected. Thus, my boss has been transferring his/her share of work to me! This has greatly increased my already bloated workload Wetin man go do na? In addition, I still have almost 3 weeks' leave pending for the year, and I am really hoping it will not put jeopardize my planned vacation
I will also soon start pushing for a change of job role because I want to gain multi-disciplinary engineering experience. I hope my boss and in extension, my department will release me. It may likely be an uphill task and a battle. But I will determined to move.

LESSON LEARNT 1: In the workplace, the reward for good work is more work i.e. more challenging assignments or added/higher responsibilities It's always good for a new employee to distinguish him/herself and be effective at work. Effectiveness means producing results i.e. to deliver. Once your boss has confidence in your ability to deliver, he/she will likely give you more responsibilities because of the trust. He/she may sometimes put pressure on you but don't be bothered, it's all part of the job demand.

LESSON LEARNT 2: Have your mind set on what you want i.e. Be clear about your career goals, and pursue it wisely I spent my first year in the company trying to understand the organisation and clarifying my career goals. Now I know clearly what I want. Eventhough all is going well with me in the department and boss seems to trust in my ability, I will still request and push for a change in job assignment. Why? Simple, because a change of job role is important and necessary to achieve my career objectives.

Over the course of my entire work experience, I see people who get stuck in their career path because they became too comfortable, lethargic and complacent in their current position. Many of them did not utilize early opportunities that were available to them because they became too comfortable at their current level. Now many of them eagerly desire to move ahead but it's almost too late. Though I must add that it's good to be contented with your current position. That's important if you want to live a happy life. But it's also essential that you evaluate your progression periodically.


Cheers.......!

Note:
1) I will soon post the sample CV's as promised. I am yet to do so because I need adequate time to include some helpful explanations and points as I post them. I will find that time.

2) Misterkay, I see you oo. Forgive my sins. I will give you a call soon, very very very soon!

Truckpusher:
Your case study based on false information about Engineers in the Oil and Gas is a destructive one that would project the image of Nigerian Engineers in that sector that are undertaking back breaking jobs as lazy, gullible morons that only sits in their offices to collect fact allowances.

You think that these Oil and Gas majors are running a charity organization ? ....smh


Go and stay in the offshore for two months then come and change your story or better still remain in the office and proffer a solution to a facility thousands of kilometers away with a boss that lacks simple patience and the entire team waiting for you to solve a problem that has no solution, then you'll understand that most Engineers and Managers in the oil and gas industries are drug assisted humans just to maintain their sanity.

I think the Op was only being figurative and obviously didn't mean it in literal terms. I believe he was trying to deplore the 'desperate' or rather ambitious desire exhibited by graduate engineers to work in the oil and gas industry (which is not bad anyway ). You can't blame us.

The truth is that many engineers in other industries work as hard as their counterparts in the oil industry but get paid less - I believe that was what he was trying to say.

And to some extent, he is right. It all depends on what aspect of the oil industry that an engineer finds him/herself. There are some engineers in the industry that work themselves out mentally and physically, while a few do not as much but still earn a lot. Generally, engineers in oil servicing coys work harder than their counterparts in oil producing companies. There are a few exceptions anyway.

Odunharry:
xfire morning
I am in my final year my cgpa is currently on second class upper division..
Studyin Accounting education and i am really thinking of going for a professional examination...(CIPM) is what i have in mind though.
I have always love to work in corporate organisations..
I love teaching too right from when i was young..

Would u advice me take professional exam or go for a masters first.?
My childhood drm is working in a large corporate firm..

What are the chances of breakng through the corporate world knowing fully well i am an Educational student...

Thanks very much for ur input.

Why not? You can definitely work in a corporate organizations. I hope you know that corporate organizations include banks, FMCG coys, service coys, audit firms, oil coys, etc. Many of these firms only require your BSc degree to qualify. Why CIPM, if I may ask? Do you want to be an HR professional or consultant?
It will be easier for you to break into the corporate world as an accountant considering the fact that you are a student of Accounting Education. But that will require you to enrol for a professional accounting certification if you choose to be proactive. You should pursue an ICAN/ACCA certification first before acquiring a Masters since you are educational student. That is a more viable option except you have preferences for CIPM for personal reasons.

Cheers..

Jasiro:
Hello friends! Currently,i'm studying material and metallurgical engineering,but,to be frank,i'm yet to know our job in oil and gas sector. Please an experienced and advanced fellow should clear my doubts.

Materials engineer work mostly as corrosion engineers in the industry.
But it's almost needless to emphasize that the most important factor is your B.Eng degree. Oil companies usually train and mold their entry level engineers into whatever position that is of business interest.

fabify:
please which area best suits a mathematician in d oil and gas industry. Thanks in advance for your kind response.

To be candid, there is little demand for mathematicians in the industry except you delve into fields such as IT or further your studies in engineering.

legendary4luv:
I don't really know,was just thinking its better and u mentioned geoscience and geophysicist among the top 10 most demanded job in oil and gas industry,well I thought geology is better in terms of job hunting and earning,I really need ur advice

I think you should focus on building a career of your choice rather getting fixated on working for a particular industry.
While it is very important to consider employment prospects while choosing a career, it will be erroneous to get unnecessarily fixated on one industry except you truly desire a career in the industry.
People build successful careers in many other industries, apart from the oil and gas.
Think carefully about what you want before making any switch.

legendary4luv:
I thought geology is better than my course(maths/computer science)

Better in terms of what? Be more specific please.

shakol91:
thanks for your reply sir. Pls I need you to clear the issue of cgpa first,it was stated in my first post where I mentioned your name. Secondly I believe I can still cope if I choose to proceed in any Accounting professional course,but NO. After my 4yrs in uni studying accounting edu,I have decided to drop the course and choose something else like "management" that has nothing to do with cramming of formats. I want to know maybe I can further by majoring in management @ master level. I just don't want to have anything to do with accounting again

With a 2.2, it will most likely be tougher but it isn't ominous. There is always hope in every situation. Many organizations set the bar at 2.1. And 2.2 graduates have significantly fewer job opportunities to pursue irrespective of course of study. That's the reality everywhere, even with a CGPA of 3.49. I will advise you to always include your CGPA on your CV.
Knowing the reality will make you toughen up and brace up for the future so that you can take proactive steps towards ameliorating the effect. Knowing what to expect shouldn't make you worried. I once did an article on that on jarushub and I can either provide the link or post it here later.
Of course, you can major management at masters level. Management is one of the few career fields that almost every graduate can major in. Many institutions in Nigeria have different management courses. I know Unilag runs a Masters in Management. Some universities also run executive MBA programmes. There are different options available to you. Take time to check out the schools, courses and requirements. You may also not want to limit yourself to Nigerian institutions.
Nothing beats work experience so try also to be open employment opportunities too.

legendary4luv:
Thanks boss,I will look into it and am still preparing for my future,I am thinking of switching to geology In year 2

Why do you want to switch to geology?

Funny
I am still guilty of No. 6 (texting while driving). I will make effort to stop.

legendary4luv:
@xfire nd all the baba in the building,please I just got admsn in university to study mathematics and computer science,pls I want to know if I can work in oil and gas industry or if I can work in any engineering company. secondly I want know if I go do my masters in any engineering courses after graduating either as a mathematician or computer scientist

Yes to all 3 questions.

legendary4luv:
@xfire nd all the baba in the building,please I just got admsn in university to study mathematics and computer science,pls I want to know if I can work in oil and gas industry or if I can work in any engineering company. secondly I want know if I go do my masters in any engineering courses after graduating either as a mathematician or computer scientist

Yes, to all 3 questions.

superfavour:
Xfire,Where can I do offshore medical?

I do not understand the question clearly. Kindly explain further in an oil and gas related thread.

shakol91:
yes mine is education but I don't like it that way,I had no option than to settle for education/accounting during my admission process. My area of interest was management (social science) unfortunately I wasn't offered. I don't want to continue with education because teaching is not my area of interest. You said maybe I should consider ICAN/ACCA,do you think someone with poor accounting knowledge can pass any of the two? Please I need your help guys

You know your intellectual capabilities more than anyone else on this forum. You already have a good knowledge of what accounting is, given the fact that you studied accounting education. Only you can determine whether you can pass ICAN or not. No one else can.
It seems you aren't confident of your accounting knowledge and you also aren't interested in education. What then do you want exactly?

[quote author=tolutweety post=26989924][/quote]I thank God for my parents through whom I came to this world. They are a source of joy for me. Thank God for all training and teachings I got from them. I am so happy that they are still hale and hearty.

I thank God for all my siblings, their spouses and their kids. I am always excited when I see my nieces and nephews. I bless God for them.

I appreciate God for his mercies over my life. My blessings far outweigh my regrets in all dimensions. It's all about Him.

I thank God for using me as a source of inspiration for many on Nairaland. Though I sincerely count myself as an ordinary fellow, I thank God for the positive influence nonetheless. I thank God for all my Nairaland followers and followees.

I bless God for friends that stick closer than brothers, especially for my closest friend (I can't mention his name here).

I am grateful for the good health given from God.

I thank God for my couch and TV that serves me when I really need to relax.

I rejoice in Him for giving me the ability to cope with all kinds of work and personal stress.

I also remember Him for the many times He has delivered me from both deliberate and indeliberate mistakes I have made.

I shall continually thank Him for making me realize that I am nothing without Him.

I will be self-centered and ungrateful if I don't pass the baton of gratitude to some other people. I therefore nominate darellrivers, titiluvly, napsbrada, misterkay, missindependent and abdulslutsky.

didadavid:
My conclusion: You are poor. When you have money, I mean MONEY. Confidence will fall on top your head from heaven

That's not always true! I know people that have money but still lack the confidence.

LEERICIST:
As the topic depicts, I'm afraid I may never get married cos I can't woo a girl, I'm 25 now and I've never had a real relationship. I gal wooed me once but it didn't last maybe because I wasn't the one who initiated the relationship. Seriously, I'm scared. I really really need your advice.

Lol . You will definitely come over that na . It's just a phase. The only way you overcome is by following your guts and not your mind. Approach ladies and talk to them. The fear to approach will always be there but just ignore it and go ahead. You can only get better with time.
Some ladies will reject you but don't let that discourage you. It's pretty normal. Not every girl will give you attention.
Also, learn one or 2 start-up lines to initiate a conversation. And smile. Smile has a way of boosting one's confidence......

Too many rules can complicate things. Lemme simplify things. Just make it a practice to approach ladies you like. Believe me, you will be happy with yourself in no distant time.

#I was once in your shoes though I never took it to the extreme by thinking I won't get married.

Cheers....!

GoldenPenny:
Tags: xfire ,

You have tagged me. . Though I am an engineer, you want me to go on a foray into the medical world? Ok o. I got to know a little about anatomy, physiology and biochemistry in my year 1 and 2, as I had roommates who were medical students. They usually take those 3 courses in their 2nd year.

I will tell you the little I know. Hopefully, other medical professionals (like pricelessmr) will give you a helping hand and even correct me where I may have veered off:

Anatomy is the branch of biological science that studies the physical structure and shape of plants, animals and other organisms. It deals with the structural organization of living things. It is divided mainly into 2 - plant and animal anatomy. I believe you are more interested in human anatomy which the study of the physical structure of humans (bones, respiratory system, immune system, circulatory system, nervous system, etc.) It is almost inseparable from physiology which is the study of functioning of living things - deals with the way the living things function such as metabolism, respiration and reproduction, rather than with their shape or structure (which is anatomy). Physiology can somewhat be called 'functional anatomy'.
Anatomists and Physiologists can work in almost the same places - hospitals, research centers and academic institutions. Though due to the nature of the courses (which are branches of science), I think it is easier for them to get jobs in research centres, government agencies and academic institutions than in medical hospitals and facilities. In advance countries, they can work in biotechnology and pharmaceutical industries too. I do not think it is easy to stand alone as an anatomist or physiologist.

Medical biochemistry is also another branch of biological/medical science that deals with biochemistry and metabolism of human health and disease. Medical biochemists study the causes of disease and possible treatment/therapeutic options. Medical biochemists can easily work as a lab technician in a clinical biochemistry lab. They can also work in hospitals, biotechnology firms, pharmaceutical industries, research and academic institutions. A medical biochemists can be consultant and can even stand alone by setting up a medical laboratory.

On which one you should choose, I can not decide that for you. I have laid down all the major facts I know about the 3 courses. You have to make that decision yourself.

You may also find this thread useful:

www.nairaland.com/898487/human-anatomy-physiology-graduates-lets


Cheers.....!

2sExy1:
xfire and Tiimmy, thanks for your input. If you look closely at my initial post, you will observe that I am kinda weighing options. Thats why I said if you have any other one in mind.

Should I refrain from learning any of these software applications...? Not likely because I am of the opinion that as a prospect willing to build a career in engineering and other related circles, one should at least be acquianted with likely used software/apps, if not at pro level, amateurist level should be appropriate.

If you were a member of panelist at an interview, I bet you will be much impressed if your candidate has little knowledge of these software and their engineering applications. Even education education we acquire at school never make anybody a pro... But it does set precedence for becoming a pro so that once you get into any coy, you will quickly adapt when certain terminologies are used... You get a good grasp!

My problem is that while at school, we never had the time to know the kind of software used in the industry at least at basic level. It was more of practicals and going to the workshop or drilling rig and flowstation at the demonstration ground. I only started hearing about these software due to personal effort and my close association with some friends. SCADA is used at the flowstation but that just about the little I know. In developed climes, students play with some of these things and know their basic applications.

May be I shouldnt have said freelance lol. But all the same I do understand and appreciate time expended on here... Time is a valuable resource, one that can not be replenished, but one given in noble venture such as trying to educate people is well worth the while.

Thank you and God bless...

I wouldn't discourage you from learning these softwares and the relevant engineering practices and codes. If you have a good and low-cost opportunity, please grab it with both hands.

McWhillion:
I'm glad. Thanks bro

I think I went through it once. Eventhough I didn't read it in detail, I must still commend your work. And you have also done well to share it with all. Well done.

@all
I will post the 4 sample CV's with some notes and explanation, hopefully early next week. They are not meant to be used as templates per se. They are to serve as guides to CV writing. CV writing is an art and not a mechanical process. I will attach snapshot copies of the CV here for everyone's use. I will also send MS Word soft copies to napsbrada, McWhillion (those 2 friends have been wonderful here) and 3 other Nairalanders for the purpose of sending to others that may need the soft copies. I want to avoid a situation in which the thread is inundated with excessive requests for the e-copies.

@Evergreen4
Forgive me for not responding to you yet. I will do that as soon as I am settled, possibly before the end of the day.


Cheers......!

Jesuspikin7:
Good day xfire!. Its been quiet long. My account vanished after nairaland got hacked so I haven't been around for sometime now.

Remember the young man who wanted to change from pharmacy to chemical engineering? I am the one and all I can say is that I went ahead with my decision to take jamb and I passed it as well as the pume thus was given that admission. It was a long painful process but I am glad that at least I was able to arrive at a juncture where I had a picture of the future I want to venture. Your objective responses to my questions really helped me in ways you can't imagine. It really broadened my foresight. God bless you Sir.

Darellrivers sorry to disappoint you. I had to do it. I made my choice(discovering you graduated @ 20/21 yrs was indeed the last straw that broke the camels back) and I am ready to face whatever comes with it. thanks for your kind responses I still got vital tips from you. God bless you ma'am

My regards to everyone who helped in one way or the other with vital informations. Discovering nairaland for me was like discovering a manual/road map which I lacked or was deprived of all my life and for that God will bless whoever owns this set up! #shalom

It's good you went for what you desire. I am elated that you have arrived at a point where you can clearly see future you want for yourself and you are ready to face whatever challenges that may come your way as a result of your decision. That's a resolute mind, which is one of the ingredients for success. I really wish you all the best in your academic endeavour.


Cheers....

2sexi, 2sexy1, crudedude. Here is the response:

2sexi: I will like to steal this opportunity to ask you this question: if there is any skill that you feel one should acquire to aid his career prospect, what could it be? By God's grace,if I can attain my financial target this year, there will be lots of re-evaluation on my person in the coming year, 2015. That's why I am asking this question. I want to get some skills, not all these paper certifications being peddled around (I have never liked any) and which has no value, because I know their(the organiser's) core intents were mostly money-driven. I am talking about technical skills that I could even use to freelance without a job but which are highly sort after and needed in the oil and gas industry, something I could technically work with my hands.

For instance, one can stand alone as a webdesigner, a fashion designer, a builder. Going forward, what likely or similar skill that is required in the oil and gas industry can one acquire?

The ones I have in mind are AutoCAD, PDMS... that's just it. Do you have any other one in mind? I will also get my friends to teach me power point, excel and some other computer related skills I need to learn. I like to work with my PC and any skill in that direction will be much fun.

There are so many areas experts/professionals/service providers (both technical and non-technical) can contract for oil companies, though they face stiff competition from other contractors doing similar jobs.

But If I get you clearly, you want technical skills, preferably computer related that you can acquire that can make you self-dependent (that you can earn a living from) in the oil industry given your background as a graduate engineer/technologist. (5 key words: technical skills, acquisition/training, self-dependence, oil industry and graduate engineer/technologist).

Unfortunately, the industry does not work like that. The oil industry is a well established and knowledge-based industry. The industry relies a lot on experience and technical know-how, and it is difficult, if not impossible to freelance for oil firms without having valuable technical experience, except of course you have the funds to provide resources and you know people in high places.

For instance, I will use the example of AutoCAD and PDMS that you talked about. It is not enough to know those softwares. You will need to understand how and when to use and apply them in engineering problems. That comes with experience. Piping design comes with experience. You also have to understand the relevant codes (e.g. ANSI 31.3, ANSI 31.4, ANSI 31.8, API 5L, ASTM A106, etc). You can't learn it all on your own in your room or by going for a training. It takes understanding to know what set of data and code to use and how to use them. It ain't like web design or programming that can be easily learnt off the streets. Having the software is not enough. Remember, it's 'garbage in, garbage out' in the computer world.

Moreover, many organizations develop their unique softwares to solve their engineering problems. The industry is technology driven and whoever is ahead in terms of technology makes more profit. For instance, all the most big oil players have their unique reservoir simulation softwares, while some have their own preferences. Same for process simulation softwares, though many firms prefer to use Aspen HYSYS or Aspen Plus. Oil servicing companies generally make more use design softwares such as 2D/3D AutoCAD, PDMS, Caesar II, etc. Oil producing firms do not use them as much.

I know a number of technical experts that freelance or consult for different oil firms. Some now have their own servicing companies. None acquired their skills from trainings. The skills were acquired either through years of experience and/or advanced education and research.
There are no shortcuts. Work experience is inevitable if you want to be a freelance engineer for 2 reasons: to get the technical know-how and for networking. It is not enough to know the skills. You have to get the jobs! Try to work yourself into getting a job with an engineering servicing company. That's your best bet.


Cheers...

petengine: good morning xfire et al, I hope your night was good.
pls don't say I ask too many questions, our ppl said its better to ask questions 100 times than to get lost once. permit me to ask;
Is there anything like strong 2.1? What CGPA can be classified as strong 2.1 on a scale of 5.00
hope u have a beautiful day.

lol. There is no generally accepted line for a 'strong' 2.1. There is no classification called 'strong 2.1'. Probably, the term 'strong 2.1' was coined by graduates who finished with high CGPA's but did not make first class (such as me ) as a form of consolation or marketing on their CV's. Though it works sometimes . It has worked for me . Well, CGPA's and transcript results become more significant in postgraduate applications especially if applying for scholarships.

I will personally put it as a CGPA of or above 4.2 / 5.0 though some may be more liberal to have it as a CGPA of or above 4.0 /5.0. A few are more conservative and will put it as a CGPA of or above 4.4 / 5.0. But generally, anything north of 4.0 can be considered strong.

Cheers....

crudedude: Thank you xfire for you've been an inspiration. While I understand your position on this issue I would have loved to read your response to his question as I'm in a similar state. is it possible to also send this reply to me?

OK. I will send it to you if I have your email address.

petengine: hello xfire et al

I wanna ask;
1. for a petroleum engineering graduates, is it advisable to include skills like; Ms words, PowerPoint, excel, Corel draw, etc on ones CV?
2. gradating with a cgpa of 3.90 on a scale of 5.00, is it really a good 2.1? can a cgpa of 3.90 be included in a CV?
thanks for your time.

1. Of course you can. As a matter of fact, the most important applications required by graduates (including engineers) are the MS packages (Word, Excel, PowerPoint). Knowledge of the MS packages is a basic requirement for all graduates. They are the applications mostly used by most employees in corporate organizations. Other job specific softwares can be learnt on the job. I have worked in 3 different corporate organizations and I have used various softwares in the course of my career. And I can tell you categorically that the applications I use most frequently are MS Word, Excel and PowerPoint. Even as an engineer in an IOC, I spend considerable time working on the MS packages and internet explorer.

2. Well, 3.90 is neither too good nor too bad. It's just somewhere in the middle. It's fine to include on your CGPA. It's a CGPA you can be proud of cos it shows that you comfortably finished with a 2.1.


Cheers.....

ugonology: please am new on this board or forum and would humbly like to seek the undiluted advice of Mr. XFIRE...Am 22 years old, studing geology in a federal university and presently in my final year. Problem is, my cgpa is barely a 3.42. After reading through many of your inspiring posts and topics, i suddenly became aware of the impending disasterous frustration that awaits me in the labour market should i graduate with this class of degree. I actually started poorly(2.74). Now am confused and exhausted, i need atleast a 4.4 to hit the capping cummulative of 3.5 coupled with the fact that i barely have this last semester(about 1 month left). Now my question is, should i fight on? even though it is obvious that my chances are slim, or should i honourably resign to fate....is their any splint of hope for a 3.4 graduate in geology related fields? Or in the general labour market.....am bitterly rottening in a bucket of regret and anger, i honestly crave your words of wisdom on this.

Welcome to the career forum.

You never give up until the last minute. A former coursemate of mine hit the 3.50 mark in her last semester. Today, she works for an oil servicing company. Another coursemate started his final year with a CGPA of 4.42 and was able to hit the 4.50 mark after his last semester. Please do fight on. One quality they both had was positivity. Be hopeful. No need to be confused. Just see it as an opportunity to surmount. If possible, register some electives that can help you boost your CGPA. You don't have to regret yet. There is a battle to WIN.

And what if you don't make it...? What you need right now is to be focused on hitting the mark. So don't dwell on the what-ifs. Just believe and work towards a 3.5.

Cheers.....

Joy83: Doctor!!! Haha, abeg naaaaa.
We geologists are still jostling to enter O&G coy, yet is crowded. Try to be contented with what you have already ooo. After all your pay is still manageable... Lol

This got me really cracking
Abeg leave the doctor alone oh oh