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I hope you aren't referring to Latinas! I guess it's because them Caribbeans are a blend of different races assuming you know some history of what happened there.

Ps. You are not a psycho, and not all Yoruba are pro Nigeria as many desire deamalgamtion of the zoo. I, for one.

LesaSid:
Hate is when you sell vultures as turkey to people.

Here is video of Hausa people selling vultures to Igbo people in Port-Harcourt


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2izvc20pIU

Seriously ? What the fvck, such hatred runs deeep.

Which God might you be referring to ?

Zeus of the greeks ?

Buddha of the Asians?

Jupiter of the romans ?

Allah of the Arabs ?

Yahweh of the Jews whom is transposed as Jehovah in the Christian bible (Anglicized) ?

Eledumare aka Chineke aka Abasi aka Ogheni aka Osanobua


God is a title, like a prince or a king or a doctor, you have to specific as to which God you are referring to ?

Long, long ago I came to the conclusion that everything about science and technology surfaced and began in what I call 'precient Africa' and I meant all of mathematics, biology, astronomy to metaphysics, philosophy and civilization itself.

Here isn't the appropriate platform to back up my assertions with points based on not just the books I've read nor the personal investigations and research based observations I've done but allow me to ask the audience here, just as I've always asked - why is it that everyone in Nigeria keep hating on the whites people (Europeans and Americans) for the role they partook in trans-Atlantic slavery while remaining unaware of the heinous vrimes the Arabs did to Africa, both in negro slavery and untold destructions and mayhem done to this continent and its negroid inhabitants ? Why are so many neglectful, and choosing to be ignorant as well as been forgetful of the fact that it was them Arabs who not only did far more worse on the Negros in regards to what is called sub-Saharan slavery, a sub-topic of Arab Slavery of Africans but also were the first to begin enslaving Negros in Africa, raided lands, sacked empires and kingdoms fpr more than a millenia, their so many Jihad campaigns. There are books written about it.

Arab Slavery of Africans spanned a millennia and a half while the jew-sponsored seacoast-entry European slavery of Africans went for approximately 400 years.


The arabs wrecked Africa and downgraded ots status to the dark continent it is today. Rendering it in ruins, they did far more evil on us than what the Europeans and aericans who solefully accused did to us, from whilescale jihad to nonstop devastating invasions hampered the progression of the Africa in general.

The sub-topic of Arab Slavery of Africa; sub-Saharan slavery as it is refereed to, is the most overlooked and suppressed chapter of human history and slavery.

Let's call it the Negrocaust

Facts about Trans-Atlantic slavery
1. 400 years

2. Was abolished by the same Europeans

3. Part of what led to the American civil war

4. Whites documented it all

5. Countless of books, journals, novels, have been made as evidence of its occurrence

6. The descendants of it perpetrators have shown remorse, have apologized in various socio-economical ways.

7. The descendants of the enslaved negros can be found throughout the world today like we have in certain European country and the African-Americans of the United States of America

8. Contrary to popular but specious beliefs; Europeans were never the reason our fore-bearers sold one another into slavery

9. Lots of movies and documentary have been made about transatlantic slavery (should be stopped as it's fuels many ignoramus here to nurture deep animosity for Americans and whites in general whilst not understanding the complexity of the events that led to it)

10. First slave ship used to cart the first set of negro slaves off Africa was named 'JESUS'


Facts about Sub-Saharan Slavery
1. 1,500 years!!!

2. Despite its been abolished, still taking place in Africa where Arabs still enslave negros in places like Mauritania and Southern Sudan, while all northern African regions is now acquired by descendant of various Arabs, Arab Jihadists from the period of the moors to date.

3. After slavery, in all it forms was outlawed and banned, Arabs still continued in the illegal trade, went further in the trading of negros as slaves by embarking on the transporting over the seas, check Wikipedia to see a photo of the last ship that was apprehended by the British

4. No Arab author ever documented any of their evil to the negro people till date.

5. No books, journals, novels, has ever been written to remind history lovers of these negrolocaust ever happening, which explains why majority of negroid African mooslims and christian converts don't know of it ever occurring.

6. No descendants of the Arab perpetrators have shown remorse, apologized in various socio-economical ways instead still maim and maltreat Negroes in their continent in countries such as Libya, Morocco and Algeria.

7. Not a single descendants of the enslaved Negros can be found throughout the Arab world today like we have in certain European country and the African-Americans of the United States of America simply because they were turned into eunuchs after been castrated at their Arab slave market (bazaar) so as to never have their male Instruments erectable when instructed to go fetch their harems.

8. Arabs, due to their closeness to the continent brought wars and countless destruction of great empires and kingdoms, influenced Africans of then with a lot of things that are now evidence in our language and worldview. Their manipulations brought numerous internecine wars and battle among Africans ethnic groups, causing tribal wars from which led to the intra-tribal slave practice wherein the victor enslaved the defeated who not until later Europeans came and were sold into slavery (not for precious mirrors or guns - another well propagated falsehood)

9. No movies like Django, Roots, 12 Years A Slave etc have ever been produced to substantiate these historical blight, not a single documentary have ever been made on the Arab slavery of Africans (not even in any cartoons like there is from those classic pre-90s America cartoons where negros slaves are funnily depicted with thick red lips and jet black skin serving a white man, never of such reminder about them Arabs who did far more evil, devastating effect of which still lingers on)

10. While the Europeans carted away negroes in huge ships across the Atlantic to what was called the New World, the horse and camel riding Arabs had thousands of enslaved negroes chained to one another in manacles as they walked across thousands of miles till they reach their destinations waiting to be bought and sold in slave bazaar. African female slaves were forced into sex slaves as there weren't allowed to mate with their male negro slaves who have been castrated. Many enslaved negroes were conditioned to fight in many of their Jihad wars against Africa lands and in Spain (Moors) to be manumitted if they survive. Historians also stated as a matter of fact that Sahara desert was filled with vegetation that it was the legs of millions of slaves moved across the lands for years that scorched it into a desert we know it to be today. Skeletons and bones of black slaves who were too tired and exhausted to continue the journey have been exhumed from Sahara desert by various white archaeologist. Note that Usman Fodio the fulani arab jihadist is reputed to have controlled the largest slave economy in West Africa rivaling other Arab jihadist partaking in the human trade every where in Africa and across the Maghreb.

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@VillagePipu:
SDesist from the we Africans are unintelligent traps, you're of the many atypicals who believes eithout stopping to think we negros were naked until them europeans brought civilisation, when in fact it was the other way round, during the period the classical Greeks were semi-naked, Africans have long been wearinh clothe, otherwise would you be saying it was them whites that brought to your ancestors the technology of cloth making as we call them in our language, aso-ofi, aso-oké, abeti-aja cap, come on think, we've been clothing ourselves long before even Caesar crossed into the sland which them Romans called Britania wherein its inhabitants were so primitive that they had to teach them how to cloth themselves, the Anglo-saxons were as raw and backward like their Goth cousin downtown whose ancestors; the Tutonic were as barbaric as the later Arabs who came into world scene millenias later. Try tracing where the Romans got their everything from, you will get to the Greeks, keep tracing it backward, you'll get to an origin, guess where that is, go do your research and tell me later bro. To remain ignorant is cheap, to get enlightened can be costly but readily affordable.

Jhoanner:
Every civilization engaged in slavery at a point in time as a form of trade. We had inter-tribal slavery even in our own land. I consider the European slave-trade and colonization to be more far-reaching as it went beyond physical but mental bondage. They engaged in a dismembering and a total eclipse of identity of the people in the lands lq conquered. Replacing the identity of the people with theirs. Let's not also forget the acts of barbarism. The truth is that European conquest of the African continent and all other continents was very strategic and deliberate. It involves a lot of mind-programming which we (Native and Diasporic Africans) have unfortunately not been able to wriggle ourselves out of.
You are correct that we Africans have attained a high level of civilization that may surpass that of Europe if studied. But the blame also goes to Europeans who deliberately erased any trace of civilization credited to us and championed themselves as the beginning and the end of civilization.
However, I'll like you to enlighten me more on the Arab slavery of Africans. Thanks

No problem my brother....but allow me to respond to the things you've pointed out first.

Jhoanner:
Every civilization engaged in slavery at a point in time as a form of trade

Not every civilization indulged in the inhumane practice of slavery throughout the enitre history of humankind, a good reference were the Greeks of classical antiquity, who despite their numerous wars, never partook in the human slavery of the defeated, so as to retain the purity of their blood from been tainted by the invading non-Greek enemies (caution not to relate such a decision with racism). You may rebute that with the fact that the Spartans greeks afterall forced the Helots into a form form of slavery, after having their population subjugated which I will then respond thus, that form of slavery is entirely different from the incursive, destructive, land-grabbing, depopulating, socio-cultural destablizing, mass murdering enslavement the negros suffered from the Arabs. It's like combining three of what; the Europeans did to the natives of Americas, with what the Nazis did to the Jews in World War II and trans-atlantic slavery together, all three raised to the power of ten, to get an idea of the fate the negro race suffered at the hands of the Arabs for more than a millennia and a half. Forget the internet, their are books you would read on this suppressed topic that you won't be able to hold yourself anymore than to shed tears. Again, if you or anyone argues that the circumstances that led to the subjugation of the Helots resulting to their serfdom to the Spartans should all be disregarded on the basis that slavery, no matter the form, still remain as slavery, fine I will agree to that, but can you or anyone holding thwt argumemt agree that the practice of identuring should be regarded as a form of slavery as well ? Afterall, anyone getting indentured to someone is at the mercy of the of thst soneone as he or she is submitting all rights to, cruelty, shaming, sadism and punishment are but few of what the indentured can relive at the whims of whoever they are indenturing to.

Jhoanner:
We had inter-tribal slavery even in our own land.

Maybe, I wasn't clear enough, get my point clearly now....Africans NEVER ever took part in any inter or intra tribal slavery as a result of whatsoever conflict or disagreement within themselves, as there were ways of settling issues that would usually leads to wars and battles in other part of the world, note that - Africans, since precient times were not war-mongering as their offsprings (Caucasians, semites, mongoloids and other aggressive races) later became. It was not until the contamination of external forces over several millennia that Africans gradually started becoming war conscious, but not war driven enough to dominate and conquer and enslave their neighbours as the Europeans are notorious for in their own history, therefore... it is important to note that all the inter and intra tribal slavery that occured among west Africans resulted from hundreds of centuries of socio-political/economic destablization, the domino effect of which culminated, not only into all the internecine conflicts between people of the same tribe and outside ethnic groups but also in said enslavement of the imprisoned captives, majority of who were sold off to the Europeans slave dealers who came by ship, this is not to be confused or likened to the Arab enslavement and destructions of Africans and Africa lands, although connected but only in respect of the Arabs in various shades been the causative agents.

Jhoanner:
I consider the European slave-trade and colonization to be more far-reaching as it went beyond physical but mental bondage. They engaged in a dismembering and a total eclipse of identity of the people in the lands lq conquered. Replacing the identity of the people with theirs. Let's not also forget the acts of barbarism

Bro, your consideration of the trans-Atlantic slavetrsde of the Europeans to be far reaching and beyond physical damage and mental bondage is sentimentally unfounded but understandably concluded to be drawn from the information you, just like the majority of we the negros have been bombarded with since childhood, from documented clips, republished survival accounts of people who wrote down their experiences in those eras, in cartoons, movies, various slaves trade documentaries all of which points only to the Euorpean slave dealings. But contrary to all that, believe it or not, Arab slavery of negros spanning over several centuries to exceeded that of the late coming Europeans who did theirs out of thirst for cheap labor to work in the New World, is not only harrowing, but the cruelest of all slavery for its annihilating purpose borne out of deep hatred.

And regarding the erodement of our racial identities, I'd say you're also incorrect to conclude as such. Do you know that there are few words in the Yoruba language that are Arabic in origin ? What does that tell you ? It's means the Arabs have been in absolute contact with Africans for a long time that they succeeded in replacing and distorting our true history, also as a result much was lost over the centuries that it is easier for so many ignorant buffoons to scream "if we are as you say, why couldn't we read and write, why weren't we wearing clothes" whilst forgetting we have native terms for those acts in respect to: ko-iwe and to ka-iwe, or was it the Portuguese, English or Arabs that gave us those wordings of expression ? Note that, it could be contested that one of the main reason the Nsibidi alphabet of the East siders was able to survive these eras of horrors was because the Yorubas, the Hausas and all other tribes and ethnic group upwards were tje one recieving much of the cultural damaging and contaminating effects from the continuous impact brought about by the Arab invasiveness as their countless and many undocumented Jihad war against negroes lasted, disguised and justified on the basis that we are infidels/heathens just like The Church used invented Christianity as a weapon for their Crusaders to take control of Europe among other ulterior purposes.

Jhoanner:
The truth is that European conquest of the African continent and all other continents was very strategic and deliberate.

Well, if you think that of the Europeans were strategic and deliberate, given to what you've been exposed to from childhood concerning this subject, then think of the Arabs' own as intentional and acrimonious and unrelenting still.

Jhoanner:
It involves a lot of mind-programming which we (Native and Diasporic Africans) have unfortunately not been able to wriggle ourselves out of.

Fine, agree, then please tell me why do we Native and Diasporic Africans prefer to blame a race of human for our woes and setbacks while giving no iota of attention to another set of much vile human race who not only plundered worse, raped far and wide from north west africa to east central africa, people who after wiping out its original occupants proceeded to annexed the whole of north Africa which were once the native lands to non-Berber deeply melanated negros (else if you have another explanation as to why Arabs are the ones in 90% of all North African countries), Arabs people who by virtue of their middle geo-position, they stole knowledge, including from mathematics to astronomical calculations and devices from Africa and presented themselves to the rest of the later Europeans as though they were the original inventors, and the list goes on and on.

See two people raped their mother, and the mother is blaming only one because while the first was raping hershe was blindfolded while the second rapists just did for a while and left but was seen as he himself made sextae video-recording his rape session.

I hope that analogy gives you clarification.




As for enlightening you more on the Arab slavery o Africans, well you would do well to read up yourself, here are some books to begin with...


Arab Muslim World: Architect of Slavery in Africa by Jean Marie Dia (Barnes & Noble),

Slavery In The Arab World by Murray Gordon and

Islamic Jihad: A Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism, and Slavery by M.A. Khan

cowardafonja:
Look who is typing gibberish - a worthless nitwit like you. What do you even mean by giant forum. Before you type any further, just that know that you are referring to a renowned software engineer. Who are you bu the way? Nairaland is seun's business. But our activities here is what gives him his money. A brainless mofo like you may not know this. But I will remind you that if seun did bring this forum to fore, some of us who havr what it takes would havr brought something better. Now fuccck u and ur generation. Were you ever thinking that every yoruba person will support evil? You are damn shallow. fuckkk u again

Oh! so you mean even if Nairaland isn't a giant forum yet going by your respond, is it right to post statement that express scorn and derision on ethnic groups like many of you do ? Does that make it less giant or does been civil and mannered in our posts makes it attractive such that it would have attained that gigantic status since 2005!?

And why should noting that you're damned software engineer got to do with anything? Wait, am I suppose to relate that with the fact that you can't get a piece of coding gig on fiverr because anyone identified as a Nigerian is automatically flagged down to be a potential cyber-criminal, well if that's where all these unfound bitterness of yours is coming from, then you aren't the only one caught in that web as I am too as a GDTVP but in your own case, given how disjointed your statement is, I'm nore inclined to think it's because your programs are always heavily bug-ridden which is why you are probably always here to unburden your frustration on a whole ethnic group, for been a member of that same ethnic group on a forum website created by someone from said ethnic group. Soak it up, reply me and the time it will take you to lift your own 'Bleep you and your generation' curse will become more shorter than it is.

crazyABO:
bro if u wanna make a correction u can without being insultive I dont know you n u dont either well u can be 45 and be a kid and be 17 and be a man

Asking you to shut up on something that you made so glare you know nothing about while acting like you know like many do in Nigeria isn't a statement of insult, derisive yeah but not insulting. As for my age, I'm ageless! So don't sweat it.

Ifyz0001:
I hope EFCC can quickly convict those thieves in higher places just as they have done here.

How many of Nigerian politician billionaire thieves have they been able to convict? na small boiz dem fit convict, Las Las na poor man wey steal maggi den fit hold.

You go follllow gree make we all agree make dem dey use our Gods dey take swear oath and jot the gods of the Jews and Arabs ? That's one effectice way to stop it, better than anti graft agency they would ever be and interpol

cowardafonja:
In Oduduwa land, two businesses are most lucrative - skull mining or yahoo.....


Before you trash, I'm a yoruba too... but i don't support evils.

It's so unfortunate to still see that your types are on to Nairaland so much that you've all become an infestation that's become too overwhelming for seun and the mods to fumigate as you all keep destroying and spoiling this once lustrous forum. Left to me, your types won't even bother to exist on the cyberworld muchless of constituting to be part of the nuisance on a public forum. No decorum, no brain, no shame, no value, just some croaker who can't resist that urge to always conpete with the swarms of nematodes crumbling a would-have-been giant forum in Africa to wreck. Shame on you and all your types on this website.

[quote author=Badonasty post=79110481
this one na babalawo nà[/quote]How is he a babalawo, do you even know who a babalawo is, I bet you don't like the majority of the ignoramus brainwashed in this shithole.

kasali2019:
Na only yahoo boys u dey convict, what about the politicians?

Until there's a revolution, this sh1t ain't gonna cease, mind you the word politician is too much of an honorable term reserved for dignifying ones and not the blood shedding kleptocratic clowns in this part.

crazyABO:
I laugh when some of this illiterate people spills trash and say yea we getting what they stole from us and we trynna recover from the slavery blabla bla even before the advent of the white we were stealing from each other and using each other as slave till present day you guys should go back and read your history well. You betrayed each other for spoon, father sold his son for alcohol, mother exchange her children for mirror and friends betrayed each other for materialistic substances and people that refused to participate in stuff like that or sell themselves out like king kosoko of lagos was betrayed by his own people and sent on exile but what do I know

Shut the fvck up and stop exposing how ignorant you are on a complex subject as the slavery in Africa, I agree that internet based fraud shouldn't be justified on the occurence of trans-atlantic slavery or any other justifiable excuses for that matter, but don't come acting like you know about it cos obviously you don't know anything judging from the trash you wrote up there.

dfrost:
her head was in the clouds. Always walking majestically

The summary of what you're trying to say is that females, no matter what shouldn't be egotistical. The rest are just drivel coming from a deep seated complex. Let me tell you one thing...as far as this naija goes, men/guys are the most egotisitical and concieted and chronically insecured, dole-digging satyrists.

dfrost:
started probing and she poured her heart like that day the world was coming to an end.

You say most of them are hurting inside as if we ain't all hurting inside. We are hurting inside even more but society handicaps us to keep up faces while we struggle to deal with one damage control and another sustained from culminating emotional hurts as we struggle in this failed shit hole of a country, but according to you they shouldn't be expected to pour their hearts out or express their views/opinion unless when asked, only to snivel in silence and keep their thoughts unless when probed ?

Gaaawdd!!


I just don't get it. Why are most men/guys from naija in NL usually embittered with raine? Responding with vitriolics all the time. No be by force to gree with her views but hell, she has the liberty, just like everyone else on this nairaland forum to start a thread asking for what others think about something or sharing a view. Her and very few others are reason I still get drawb to want to read up stuff in this formerly-sane, decorum forsaken mine-filled so called forum.

Can't you all respond like omale88 and Tehila07 ?

I don't know how else to see where this is bitterness is coming from if not some sort of inferiority complex.

It's not all of her views and opinions I agree with, but I don't wait for an opportunity to haul aspersion her way because I disagree with her thoughts, which is what I've noticed many of you do, lurking around on her own thread shamelessly, stalking her from threads to threads always trying hard to shame and attack her for been intelligent and puissant, since most of you are used to the bland airheads bimbhoes slaying your world on whatever social network you're addicted to.

Duchessree:
what sort of thing is this na?

The things naija babes are too lilly livered to do. Sometimes stupid questions deserve to be met with shocking but truthful answers.

Educative post. I know guffaw and mannequin. How about beseech and demure. Rarely used I think.

Auladimeji:
Oloriburuku nie.With that fake slang of yours

So will it be for you as you wisheth for me.

tesppidd:
you are mad.

So shall it be for you

To hell with all of you fvckinhg haters and your suck ass english side clubs who carried Toddler ham against my Red Hellboy Liverpool, fvck you to pixel pieces. May your hatred consume you till you self implode you freaking mofos

Fvck you haters, go suck some reptile anus cos my Origi is a GOAL

MissRaine69:
Replace your hand with a real live vagina. All the stress & histrionics that come with a live vagina will compel you to forget your ritual of self gratification.

Hope you do realize that hyper-libidinous males who jerks off haven't the balls to go whoring at the red light district the way non-wankers do, or whatever you meant by live vajina, is even beside that fact, suffice to say sexual gratifying ventures particularly those related with coital activity is an expensive hobby in this part and I hail those who do

MissRaine69:
Does she have a point or not?

No because she didn't make any sense. It's a confusing trash talk from a disoriented minx. It's appalling how the young ones now look up to all these showbiz peasants in Nigeria and Ghana as their role models and mentor continually influencing their thoughts and life, both subtly and profoundly.

MissRaine69:
You can be from any tribe and be emotionally demonstrative towards your children as well as be emotionally available personally traits are not dictated by tribe

WTF! But, the caption did not say 'Certain parent will raise you in..." it states 'Nigerian parent will...' implied exclusively within a Nigerian context, from which my opinion is based, if you'd understand that you wouldn't be taken aback for misconstruing my response as ethnocentric. And secondly I don't think the post is about trait, it's about the increasing facile disconnection and emotional detachment between this generation of Nigerian folks and their offspring.

MissRaine69:
Share your views.

Well, imo, the observation of that writer however right, still isn't true for all but only correct to the degree of said family's leaning towards westernism(southerners) and arabicism (northerners), only at times does parent-children relationship reflects qualities that are indicative of those who raise and are raised in ways customary to the tribe associated with the ethnic group they hail from.

cr7lomo:
U are mentally unstable...so we should promote fraud and those that are against it are haters?? I don't get u...is it how celebs in Yankee promote drug sales?? U know the meaning of influencing a nation negatively...don't u know it can destroy a nation entirely...so y should a white man b defrauded, does he deserve it...y can't the yahoo boys defraud ganduje, tinubu Amaechi and their likes and we will celebrate them as the modern robin hood...

Appropriate and sense filled response ever read in a long time.

LZAA:
I am afonja na
Cc immhotep sarrki Adaibeku

Lol! Then in that case, we are all proud Afonjas!

I don't really know when but I'm buying it sooner or later.

LZAA:
...

You're obviously not a Igbo as your statement purports to present you, you're just one of the many bigots who are on this forum to sow hatred between Yorubas and Igbos among other native land owners this British amalgamation was hammered on, otherwise you would know facial scarification and tribal mark is a world wide practice and not just peculiar to Yoruba alone. Enlighten yourself with the photos attached to see facial marks of the Igbo people (Ichi) and white people below. Don't thank me later. Apologise to those who've you offended by your ignorant post and tell others. Be civil. Don't be a ba

This is why I've always adjudicate for NEOPOLYGAMY