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UPDATE:
I have received the item but the seller who as at the last time I contacted him today has had his phone switched off while not responding to all WhatsApp messages.

I am so tired of typing right now.

I took several action on this issue starting from visiting the banks to report wherein I was asked to write a letter.
I have been in touch with GTBank Help Desk and Access Bank customer care were very helpful on this.

I wish I could share in detail how everything went.

Onyeka90210:
I see you're well interested in going after jiji, than going after whoever scammed you
Well, sorry once again and goodluck

Yes sir,
There are things which Jiji and every other Nigeria buying/selling platforms can implement into their systems that would completely erase the possibility of attempting to conduct scam on their platform.

Onyeka90210:
Admin, no one is blaming you
I have never seen jiji advertise as the safest platform.
It has always been like that, scammers have always been lurking there, they knew that and informed the public not to “pay in advance”.
“Do not pay in advance, for whatever reason or else you’ll be scammed”
You paid in advanced, you got scammed
I don’t see how it’s jijis fault you get scammed, there are scammers on all p2p consumer sites.
If you are to compare jiji to a foreign p2p site
It shouldn’t be ebay, jiji is more like offer up.
Which are both risky.
Paying in advanced on jiji is same as paying in advanced on Facebook marketplace or olist, or even offer up, you can be scammed.
Same time there’s a location feature which you can see only adverts in your location on jiji, to save the stress of waybill.
I guess you just accepted the terms and conditions without reading through.
On jiji you’re on your own
Jiji doesn’t give a hoot about buyers or sellers
You could get scammed as a buyer,
Same time your goods gets stolen as a seller
Which is a bad thing, I guess, but they made that known.
You flawed the agreement and then come to defame them.
I will suggest if you’re not thick skinned, stick to Jumia, Konga, Amazon, EBay and AliExpress.
They have both buyer and seller protection
I’m not supporting scam, but I have been using jiji for about 7 years for both buying and selling, and it has been smooth. So I think you should modify your topic to “you got scammed on jiji”
Not “jiji should be avoided”
Well, If you’re not sharp then it’s safe to say you should avoid jiji at all cost

My friend, you guys should stop absolving this platform from been responsible for the buyers protection like we have it on eBay which I’ve been using as far back 2001. Your response indicate that you didn’t read the scenario I painted up there where I said what if you were a seller despite the fact I’m the buyer in this case and you shipped to a potential buyer who you agree with to Pay-On-Delivery and he for whatever reasons decide not to buy anymore or chose to never shows up (maybe Sport Bet took the money he originally intends to pay for the goods by the time it came) and cite that it is not what he ordered or whatever reasons. The Seller would have to pay again for the return of the product back to his state. I hope you see the point I’m trying to bring out to prove how Pay-On-Delivery is limited in securing the interest of the seller.

Why I said Jiji innocently enables this frauds to be perpetrated is because they just simply connect visitors who are potential buyers with all kinds of sellers whose phone contacts are easily revealable by the click of a button. Many of which are genuine and others who are outright scammers, defaulters and all sorts. Why should the numbers of ads posters be concealed in the first place when it can easily be revealed by one click ?

The other gentleman who recommend one should always one platform to the other simply forgot that there are items and product that can be listed on a particular platform and won’t be available in any other. There are things you can get on eBay or Craiglist but you can never see it listed on Amazon as they all cater for a different kind of product based on their trading structure.

Before I contacted this particular seller on Jiji for this item, I have not only ransacked the whole of Konga, Jumia and other minuscule Nigeria shopping website. The item as I’ve said is not a commonly demanded product so only few selected stores that do have it, and as such this seller has it on his Jiji platform posted there initially at N30K before later changing it to N42K.

When I come out with my own eCommerce platform and Payment System. Buyers and Sellers are equally protected with my S.L.A.P. technovation which I’ve conceived as far back as 2014!

eBay and PayPal used to be easily accessible to Nigerians back in the early 2000s with no features locked. Yawu boys in Lagos ruined it all. They perpetrated lots of frauds on Paypal until Nigeria was removed from their platform. We are all still suffering from that negative effect till date even after First Bank pleaded on our behalf and brought them back again but with no ability to receive funds.

Enough of all these scam scam scam.

@victorogundepo @Onyeka90210
I thank you both for your suggestion.

However you're both the fourth and fifth persons trying to fault-blame the buyer for dealing while absolving the platform from their responsibility.

Kindly look at the scenario where you as a seller in Lagos placed a very expensive and fragile item on my eCommerce platform and someone who is in need of it saw it and decided to buy it but lives far away in Kaduna, now this is where the Pay-On-Delivery concept is very flawed is that, once you parceled the item as WayBill to the buyer in Kaduna who inspect it at and he decides he no longer needs it, or it wasn't as advertised for probably been color-blind or something, he then rejects it, and no payment is furthered, the dispatcher is instructed to take it back to WayBill agent and the item is shipped back to the Seller, now my question to you Sir, is.... would you honestly be comfortable to incur the shipping cost of sending it up to Kaduna and back, while risking the fragility of the item cracking during transit?

Pay-On-Delivery is only good to the extent where the item meets the satisfactory need of the buyer. It is disadvantageous to the seller as unserious buyers with mischievous and window-shoppers spirit can exploit PoD option. If you try to purchase something on eBay, it's either you get what you see or you don't buy and that's because eBay platform worked on ensuring that their platform evolved on a system that enables legitimate transactioning from legit users, majorly focusing on protecting the BUYERS (not to say there aren't scammers who sells on there as I've also experienced one of such many years ago on eBay).

Caringty:
report to your bank that it was a fraudulent transaction. Or to the guys bank. Let them place a debit advance on his account of the same amount. Try this. Lay a complaint. You might be lucky. It worked for some one

Thanks I will do that tomorrow.

Weirdcamila:
This people are killing honest business .
Don’t pay for what you can’t touch next time

Bro, Nigeria shouldn't always be an exception in something the whole world are enjoying. People buy and sell stuffs on eBay, Loot, Kijiji, Etsy, Amazon, OfferUp (formerly LetGo), etc without no issues. Why should some people always come and spoil something good for everybody else because of their greed ? Again, I blame Jiji for this. Their platform indirectly enables this. They only care about the money they realize from paid ads.

Immediately this fellow who could be anybody using someone else's bank account confirmed payment. He has since ghosted me, not yet by blocking but by excommunication as he remain very active on his WhatsApp and Jiji accounts as his status get updated to the last time he comes online.

Beware of him: Ejikeme Nmadi Sunday 08168170969

Jiji customer care took 36hours to give me just one reply and never messaged me again.

This is not bad.

This is EVIL

How can someone has enough promoted ads for this long and Jiji allows him to thrive.

Jiji enables this scammers to perpetrate this crimes.

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Okay, the irony of this is...

I would have find it hard to believe that I myself would be a victim of what I called 'fake-matching' which is the exploitation of web-powered, mobile-based platforms and created for online trading by scammers by actively impersonation actual merchants in real life who may or may not have online presence

Their objective is to lure potential buyers to take the bait of placing order to their posted as he provides correspondence between the legitimate sellers of the items who exist in real life and the clueless buyer who believes he's actually communicating with the real seller, the fake-matching is such that whichever question the buyers ask, the scammer in turn acts like a buyer as he asks the actual seller the same question so as to remove all manners of doubts.

In my case, it was an uncommon product: Onten All in One Usb-C Multi Functional Docking Station
which was advertised by Tech Empire for N30,000. to which after Jiji revealed his number I proceeded to contact him both via direct call and ofcourse on WhatsApp chatting.

[8:45 AM, 10/25/2022] Ω: Hello
[1:44 PM, 10/25/2022] Ω: Oga I’m waiting sir
[1:49 PM, 10/25/2022] TechEMPIRE PH: 42,000
[1:50 PM, 10/25/2022] Ω: Why is it this price now ?
[1:50 PM, 10/25/2022] Ω: Give me last better price and is it still free shipping to Lagos as advertised on your page ?
[3:41 PM, 10/25/2022] Ω: Still expecting the video sir and the bank account number ASAP
[4:07 PM, 10/25/2022] TechEMPIRE PH: Pls give me 10min
[4:07 PM, 10/25/2022] TechEMPIRE PH: Am not in the office

We conducted until the funds was sent and since then has for no reason chose to GHOST me by not picking my phone calls nor responding to both WhatsApp Calls and messages. Three of which channels we communicated initially on.

I have no one but the likes of to blame for not caring about the BUYER's side of a transaction by not ensuring users who seek to sell their product on their platform are VERIFIED. Jiji only appears to care about their very own profit/gain and this has rendered thousands of unsuspecting people to loss their money as I've heard in the past and still continues. Jiji just exist to connect anyone with anyone to do business as phone number of Sellers can be revealed without no hassle, why conceal it in the first place if it can be reveal with a click ?


This seller who calls himself Tech Empire receives a transfer of N42,500 from me on Tuesday, assuring me that the item would be shipped on Wednesday morning wherein I will get it that same day. He has no negative feedback nor neutrals with 11 positive reviews (which obviously can be faked).

Jiji is culpable of this crime as they are enabling scammers to take advantage of their platform by not ensuring sellers are vetted or doing something to secure the buyers' interest.

Couple of weeks back, some boys were lamenting how they fell into this kind of scam also on Jiji in Lagos, theirs was a physical phone call where the transaction was negotiated/conducted over the phone between the buyer (victim) who eventually sent money to a fake seller who was impersonating the original seller in their shop on live cam while unknown to the original seller that he was impersonating him as he thought he was just a customer enquiring on another's behalf at his very own shop and by the time the seller went there to claim the item which was paid for and the seller asked him when and whom of his workers did he paid to.

This fakematching issue is one of the major pit-falls that haunts online transaction of the eCommerce industry in Nigeria. An issue that will be totally non-existing in the e-Commerce platform I am still development sets to launch next year.

I am livid right now.

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Persephone1:
This is why Nigeria will remain the way it is if not worse. The way these guys can effortlessly look away from their own faults while they castigate others amaze me. You all gather yourselves here to gossip the rising supply of prostitute but never give it's demand a thought. An Interesting thought process that should be studied and added to "the wonders of an African Man's thought process" . Everyone is guilty but him.

Black men have a very long way to go

Same thought as mine.

The men who’re supposed to be the driver of the society they man and create is not ever their fault

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Uncle96:
This life we all have a demon (habit) we are dealing with and we all fall under a certain category of a certain behavior. Some people fall under different categories in one but we all judge each other when we also have skeletons in our wardrobe. On nairaland we have * rapists* Paedophiles*drug dealers, drug addicts, sex addict's/nymphos * lairs * heavy gamblers* psychopaths * thief's* fake pastors and Alfas*

Smokers judges Paedophiles

Paedophiles judges internet fraud stars and smokers, drunkards

Fraudsters judges rapist saying can't they afford 2k for sex

Religious extremist judges the rest of us who are on the average believe.

Straight people judges gay

Feminist judges men

People judge each other's sexual fantasies, non anal lovers judges anal lovers, non head givers judges head givers. Non house help fckers judges house help fckers. Lol. Only if most people here could be exposed of what they've done in this life, you'll fear , but when it's time to throw comments, ull assume they are deputy Jesus

You’re absolutely right, but I’ve always been careful not to judge or misjudge people and situations. Do you diaageee that most Nigerians are by default extremely judgmental, particularly the religious one and those affiliated to one religion or the other.

dyera:
Flesh and blood did not reveal this to you.

I have to correct one thing though, a man that went to marry a virgin after sleeping with several different girls including deflowering some of them, will not have a happy marriage life. That virgin girl will also cheat on him. E get why.

You pick the word out of my thoughts.
My gender are so selfish and greedy.
Those desirous of marrying a virgin don’t realize their wanton activities is disruptive to the virgin industry and therefore are not deserving of settling down with any.

If they do get any, they certainly will not enjoy their marriage life, I agree.

Knowing how I’ve lived my life, it’s my wish to marry a V but these BBG wolves are all about deflowering with no intent. Now one JeromStarks is preaching to the same asshole guys who have lived a sexual life of deflowerment campaign to settle for the Vs! Samorobo couldn’t have responded better than the salvo he fired at him.

dyera:
Flesh and blood did not reveal this to you.

I have to correct one thing though, a man that went to marry a virgin after sleeping with several different girls including deflowering some of them, will not have a happy marriage life. That virgin girl will also cheat on him. E get why.

You pick the word out of my thoughts.
My gender are so selfish and greedy.
Those desirous of marrying a virgin don’t realize their wanton activities is disruptive to the virgin industry and therefore are not deserving of settling down with any.

If they do get any, they certainly will not enjoy their marriage life, I agree.

Knowing how I’ve lived my life, it’s my wish to marry a V but these BBG wolves are all about deflowering with no intent. Now one JeromStarks is preaching to the same asshole guys who have lived a sexual life of deflowerment campaign to settle for the Vs! Samorobo couldn’t have responded better than the salvo he fired at him.

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ajepako:
Can this happen in Nigeria?

Some people are just lucky to be born in countries where crime is punished and impunity not allowed..

Do I smell a whiff of hypocrisy, or irony.

On the other thread you applaud the huge drug bust while over here you asked if this can happen in Nigeria.

You suppose know as e dey go for this land of injustice.

All those huge drug busting na because they fell out of agreement or something, you soon forgot this accursed country is a fantastically corrupt zoo ?

It’s all just to show the public they are working, behind the scene they will sort it out among themselves.

virginprincess:
Of course, it ok if you love her and she agrees to marry you.

Are you in your early, mid or late twenties. I so wanna marry a virgin!

yorubaaaqueennn:
again another insecure man hating on another tribe's women. You guys that come on here and call yoruba women ugly are truly just insecure with your own tribe. You clearly hate your own tribe and your own women, because if you didn't you wouldn't feel the need to bring down another tribe. If Yoruba women are so ugly how come the top global supermodels from Nigeria are Yoruba women? If we aren't beautiful how come a yoruba girl, Jare Ijalana, was considered "the most beautiful girl in the world" in the year 2018? The whole world seems to find dark skin Yoruba women beautiful, but for some reason Nigeria (A Black Country) don't seem to agree. I wonder why?? Oh yea you guys are too busy being tribalistic and holding on to European beauty standards, so anything closer to white is what you people will always like. You guys will say all of this constantly to Yoruba girls in Nigeria, and then you stupid goats will have the audacity to question why some women are bleaching their skin in that country? Skin bleaching isn't even poplar in the U.S.A. which is literally a white country. Why are you black people in Nigeria enforcing whiteness or light skin as beauty in a country where most MEN AND WOMEN are dark skin LMAO y'all are so dumb wtf.

The worst part about this narrative is that you people only think this way because of colorism. You hate being black so anything that is "too black" for you guys is ugly and unattractive. Yoruba women are known to have beautiful dark skin, and Nigeria will call anything attractive as long as it is light skin and a woman. The white man has completed ruined you people, and you wonder why you can't progress as a nation? I mean how can you, when you guys don't even like yourselves.

I will continue to drag y'all on this platform, cause most of y'all on here aren't even yoruba, but y'all have the most to say about us cause y'all know we are the blueprint. At the end of the day Yoruba women don't need their validation from a useless country that doesn't even like their own blackness. Yoruba women are conquering different parts of the beauty world, and we are doing it globally too! It's hilarious because y'all hate yoruba women for the same exact reason your own tribe's women love our yoruba men. Y'all love our men for being dark skin, but can't seem to do the same for the women cause y'all hate blackness on women so much. Then here y'all go spreading the fake narrative that yoruba men leave yoruba women for other women when most yoruba men are LITTERALLY married to yoruba women. All the yoruba men in my life have only been with yoruba women, but you people's insecurities won't allow you to believe we are desirable even amongst our own men. It's almost like you guys don't want yoruba women to be desirable at all in that country. Which is fine because like I said earlier the rest of the world finds us beautiful. Y'all can stay mad and suck a FAT one when it comes to Yoruba women.

To all the Yoruba women reading this just know you're beautiful, and the world doesn't revolve around Nigeria I promise; other people in the world can see your true beauty. Keep being the educated, brilliant, beautiful, kind, sweet, elegant queens you all are! And uncle if I were you I would't reply nonsense, because I have more than enough time today monkey. Go back to the village you were living in, because I can guarantee you are living in Lagos (YORUBA LAND) while typing nonsense about their women ode oshi.

Go girl.
Ignore all these dingbats hating on Yoruba women, they secretly adore our ladies and hope to marry them. I’ll tell you what, Yoruba ladies of great standards are not easy to come by simply because they don’t showcase themselves where others exhibit , they glimmer in packs of their own league and the men of worth wives them as soon as they’re met. I’ve so many reasons to think they are beautiful Ladies across all tribes and I find Yorubas ladies and guys the most curvaceous, bootylicious (not even SouthAfricans as many like to hype) respecting and caring but hard to meet (in my experience). As for the bleaching thing, it’s the menfolk here who caused it, imagine in the late 90s how I campaigned against music and videos glorifying omo pupa ye, omo pupa ni mo feran, omo dudu ye, ma je ya ile mi… I hate that music and I tell listeners that aren’t natural dark skin girl humans too? Nobody seems to care and the self-hatred skin of color crept into everyone psyche to always feature yellow and light skin girl in musical videos, wizkid, davido all of them do that shit, I’m a light skin guy but if I wanna shoot my musical video I’m only using dark skinned girl, shout out to my crush Alicia Keys who always keep it real in touch with her African roots, unlike the inferior complex feeling ones here who rely on bleaching cosmetics and foreign imported hairs of other race. They are not to be blamed, our ladies not acting right and insecure is to be blamed on the men/guys/yawu boys colonialism and Abrahamic religions etc I can create a thread to write an analysis to prove this assertion. Cheeers, following you too.

Islandlady:
Well thanks for the compliment!

About my signature "Orisa" it actually portrays I am a goddess and a Ifa worshipper!

Unlike Angelique Kidjo, Beyoncé too consider herself an Orisa but has never in any way reflect it’s cores in her works of entertainment therefore I humbly ask… Are you actively involve in the spirituality or merely find the pantheon, or esoteric knowledge, or cosmos intellectually appealing or just guilty by association, or all of the above ?

Okay I’ve read your Alice In Wonderland Terrorland story. Your writing skill isn’t at all bad but can be polished. What always draws me to you is the aspect of how the word Orisha is in your signature. Are the Orishas or Yoruba belief system included in your area of your interests ?

Islandlady:
Y'all really crazy in this forum, I decided to test my writing skills by writing a fictional based story with fictional characters... boom some morons have attributed the story to my real life experience!

Some Nairalanders and craze be like 5&6

I’m not one of the crazies. I’ve been on Nairaland since ‘07 and I’m aware of the depth of which it has fallen far from it potential sim. Let me read your stories and come back to share my thoughts!

Islandlady:
Northerners got the numbers.

Exaggerated numbers. They have landmass but are sparsely populated not densely populated.