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When you have low view of yourself, you will think welfare is a thing to pass down from generation to generation.

Basic rights of individuals in America are the best in the world. Education(kindergarten to 12 grade)are rights and health care are rights too but just not as it's done in social medicine. In America, you can walk into any urgent care or emergency room at any time and be treated with no question asked. America takes care of its citizens better than any country in the world. Elderly have Medicare and the poor have Medicaid.

Rationalized medicines have not advanced any country, 63,000 Canadians cross the border to the US every year just for treatment, despite being free in Canada. No single medical breakthrough from UK. Sweden is not even a contender. Both UK and Canada benefit from enterprenual medicine and patents from America. So what is the point of your socialized medicine when it's all rationalized and many die on waiting list?

GalaticHorde:
welfare state my foot! You Americans tend to rationalize anything to fit your narratives! They are called socialist democracies! Because the government has an obligation to guarantee certain basic rights like health and education which aren't rights in the U.S while the citizen has an obligation to the government to enable them meet this obligation not hoard wealth but then you'd understand this if your country were truly a democracy

Go and learn what the definition of 'establishment' is. Trump was a businessman who donated to both sides cos that's what business owners do. He was a centrist and moderate conservative who hanged out in the New York social scene, a place he was born, raised and still lives. He played with some of the people but was never part of them, he's an outsider and this is the reason the establishment is at an-all-out war to destroy him.

GalaticHorde:
trump is establishment, he had been donating to major democratic campaigns before Obama and before he became a republican!

You have no idea what you are saying but just throwing words around for the sake 9f it.

Socialism is what you see in countries I listed earlier and it has nothing to do with having social services set up for the needy.

America has a very good social services put in place to help the very needy and vulnerable to get by and get on their feet, though it is being abuse but Trump is fixing it right now. Helping the poor is not socialism, having govt at the center of every aspect of your life is socialism. America will never be a socialist country despite having the Bernie Sanders of this world trying to bring it in.

In China for instance 90% of the wealth is in the hands of the elites, there's a registration database for everything just like Bernie is proposing in America, govt is in the midst of everything including in your bedroom and you have to earn social credits to enable you use your God-given rights like going to the hospital, Chinese citizens have to be given renewable permits to move into certain areas within their own country. You have to be sick to want that to come to America.

Canada, United Kingdom, Sweden and the rest of them have socialized medicine and more Bernie Sanders among them who are pushing for it but can't be called socialist countries, maybe in the future, after all no one knew that New York and California could be pushing leftist agendas that are now making people flee these two states in record numbers.

Appleyard:
You are the one getting things mixed up. If you have the principles of one form of government enshrined in your day to day activities, you are that type of government, no matter what name you chose to call yourself.

Socialism is mostly all about welfare and states like Sweden, Norway and heck, even the US are examples of typical welfare states running on quasi socialist idealism.

Call it hybrid socialism.

While the state is not in full control of all means of production, its socialist cloaked hand runs deep in the service it delivers and the attempts of control its seek to have over the necessary and basic needs of the citizens such as in healthcare, water, etc.

So I find it funny when Americans says they hate Bernie Sanders and his socialist ideas when their country is already approaching full socialist spectrum or testing the waters, while masking the national face with democracy.

Practices, not name is what classifies you as one particular form or style of government.

The mistake people are making today is defining and restricting a concept to its theoretical old fashioned form while forgetting its evolution and practical aspects in the modern era. Just like the so-called democracy, socialism has evolved and its no longer the usual practice of states controlling full means of production.

And this

This man was not a Trump supporter

This is just a few of short videos of Democrats/liberals militia attacking elderly people everywhere.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgRerQKRxJA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HrxY0UwH_4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUsvF_eHBdA

It has always been and won't stop because all the crimes they committed are coming to light and Democrats need distractions from their perp walks and journeys to Guantanamo bay.

She is actually laughing and wishing she could tell her daughter how her father got himself caught between the devil and the deep blue sea. Sophia knows she will have the last laugh because everyone knows Davido was forced and blackmailed into doing whatever you all see as an achievement, as it was shown on Davido's face that he's not happy and he's probably communicating that to Sophia and other baby mamas. While Davido doesn't want a desperate woman to commit suicide over him, she can't force him to stay. You can only force a horse to the river, you can't force him to drink. Just wait for it! The countdown is already on for when Davido will break free and have the gut to face the very mob he's scared of.

The only reason the establishment declared war on Trump is because he's not part of them. Trump is exposing their crimes and destroying their organization. This is the first time in 60 years the establishment is out of power (almost) and they are ready to burn down the USA just to cover up their crimes.

GalaticHorde:
yeah many stupid Americans said no because they lost their white house to a black man and just couldn't couldn't anymore Hillary is establishment agreed and so is Donald effing trump! He was right when he said Republicans are the dumbest voters ever, just pander to their whims and they'd make you a demagogue

Exactly!

See Nazi Hitler poster girl on the left and the deepstate poster girl who was at the UN recently on the right.

obixcel:
@Bolded, He hinted that Fascism would come in the form of Liberalism and of course The Democrat Party is the umbrella under which it thrives.

You need to stop talking about matters you know nothing about.

As I said earlier, social services have nothing to do with socialist.

Sweden and Denmark are NOT socialist countries, you can call them welfare states/countries, Canada and United Kingdom too, and then California and New York are fast going that way as well.

China, Cuba, Venezuela, Vietnam, Laos among others are the socialist/communist countries.

GalaticHorde:
red hot communism on the inside like Sweden or Denmark right? bring a better argument

Is that what you have seen? Check this out!

I'm still looking for an article about "raising plum babies for food the way animals are eaten" , I will post it when I find it,

I always say, there are only two types of democrats, the satanist overlords at the top and the ignorant useful idiots at the bottom. You can't be sane and be democrats,it just can't be.

This is not it, not this either. I will post when I find it if they haven't taken it down.

Anduku:
LIBERAL LUNATICS !!!

The patriots and the military who serve at the pleasure of the commander in chief POTUS won't let them. Even citizens arrest alone will quiet the wimps. All Congress has is a single sergeant at arms who has no power. But trust Trump to do everything by the book.

Ronald Reagan said " if fascism ever comes to America, it will be the Democrats that will bring it in" and he was right. Check out everything nazi did, Democrats have done the same or worse, the only thing they can't do is the gas chamber because the patriots won't give up their arms as Jews and others did before they were sent to the concentration camps.

Anduku:
the Democrats are NOT the 'good guys' .They are the ones that will end up destroying the US

Right! They started talking impeachment before he was sworn in just because the wicked witch lost the election after all the rigging and the deepstate will be out of power for the first time since the assassination of JFK Sr. What Trump is doing now is what JFK was trying to do before they assassinated him. God has been protecting Trump and will keep him safe from the satanist cabal.

obixcel:
Lol imagine my shock!? We've been hearing about that since he was sworn into office
"This is the end of the Trump administration"
"The walls are closing in on Trump"
"Trump is finished"
"Mueller is coming.."
"Trump would be indicted"

Social service have nothing to do with socialism.

Socialism is like watermelon, green outside with all the green and climate nonsense and red hot communist inside.

Btw, those things are paid for by tax payers (who in turn enjoy them as it should be) and not handouts or welfare in anyway.

GalaticHorde:
oh but your fire service, police, military are all social services provided by a government funded through tax you pay, the medical coverage for active military service men/women, those on capital hill are social services with total coverage funded by taxpayers money and you don't want social services? Bruv who are you deceiving?

Or have their lovely tranny Michael Obama come to the rescue. Please don't say she hasn't been campaigning, Democrats break the law and violate the constitution and don't care if the country burn as long as they don't have to pay for their crimes.

obixcel:
The race for the Democrat Nominee will be basically down to Two - Joe Biden vs Elizabeth Warren. If Biden slips up Warren gets the Nomination. But in my opinion it seems the Media are propping up Warren to be eventually Nominated, beating off Biden. Bernie Sanders won't be the Nominee for sure, the DNC would never let that happen. And then Warren would lose to Trump just like Hillary did. The media once again would blame fans of Bernie who fail to turn up to vote for Warren.


To me this is how this drama would play out. Bernie will be screwed again.

Wowcatty says hello, one keyboard-happy mod needed that handle for his life improvement.

Exactly, I think what they are doing to the president is still better than blowing innocent. people up or having their MKultra victims carry out another mass shooting. Trump can handle it, he was choosing by God for this huge assignment, any other president would have caved long time ago. God willing America and the whole world will be better for it. Many countries like N.Korea, Saudi Arabia and others have already been set free from the shackles of the deepstate.. Trump also took out their nuke site in northern Syria, so Iran will soon come to the negotiating table.

obixcel:
Lol...they are just hallucinating, building up a fantasy hype...let them alone, it's the only way they feel good about themselves at least from now till November 2020..until reality strikes again, and then their fake news CNN along with d rest will project President Trump to be Winner and Re-elected as President of The United States for a 2nd Term in Office.

The spam bot got wowcatty.

The 2nd amendment is the heart and soul of the constitution and no one can take it away especially in this climate, it's just too dangerous to be without it, even Trump can't touch it. The only reason America is still standing today as a free nation. The only reason Japanese could not invade the US with boots was because they knew many American had guns. The guns kept the Japanese and all others away from the US and will stay strong in the hands of the patriots.

https://azdailysun.com/news/opinion/mailbag/gun-ownership-kept-japanese-at-bay/article_234b2654-26c2-57ad-944f-7eef4efb0e29.html

Wonder shall never cease! Igbo said "we don't bring you into our problem" Can igbos say a word without Yoruba in it? The answer is no But Yoruba only mention Igbo if it involves you as when stating the fact, people involved will be named.

You just tried to sound like Yoruba, what a pity! You like to be Yoruba who don't care about igbos, but you can't be. Yoruba is everything you think, sleep and dream.

selemempe:
so why did u bring igbo into wetin no concern us? Go and solve ur problems...we dont bring u guys into our problem. We face our issues alone...learn it

Where did you see "Igbo wrote" this in my post or paranoia is about to push you off the cliff? Who cares if Igbo posted it? It's the same old shiitt! You igbos are obsessed with Yoruba, even a blind can see it.

You are just consoling yourselves with your post, you need attention and validation, everyone can see it.

selemempe:
the op is not igbo...he is yoruba like u
Wat brought igbo into ur lame problems. U guys are obsessed with igbos like ahmadu bello and the north was in 1950s...question is why?

Igbo is the east coast overdose. Are u scared of us? U are suppose to

Yours is just an opinion but mine is a statement of fact. Tinubu is the one to be and beat in Yorubaland. Tinubu got more votes in Yorubaland even with rigging and igbos help you got on pdp side, so more Yoruba are behind Tinubu than your overlords.

sapoyoro:
you are entitled to your opinion..I'm sure you are an Apc supporter
to me and lots of yoruba,he is not,thanks.

But deep down inside you, Your fear is that Tinubu a real Yoruba could actually be the next president. Don't worry, you are not alone, I wouldn't want free money from and access to Yorubaland to stop too if I were you, but every good thing must come to an end.

viyon02:
Am so sorry for tinubu, because and the end of the day HE WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT of the Nigeria, he will only be hand tool for hausas to gain power. Op, you have good political sense analysis even more than tinubu that thinks he know it all. He will soon bite his finger just like other Yoruba leaders that coalated with hausas in the past e.g abiola, awolowo etc.

What road are you talking about? Tinubu and Obasanjo are two different people and part played. Tinubu is a real Yoruba man, Obasanjo is not. Tinubu has never taking anything away from Yoruba and given to Nigeria as Obasanjo did with Yoruba farms settlements and land use act. Obasanjo wanted Igbo to be Buhari's Vp but Tinubu went through hell to make sure Yoruba got the Vp position. When Tinubu created more local govt for lagos, Obasanjo refused Lagos but gave the north sharia. Obasanjo knows that he will pay for his sins from the time of Awolowo when Tinubu becomes president. And you are just scared with the thought that Tinubu could actually be the next president.

Bulleye:
The road Tinubu is about to travel now is familiar to Obasanjo . However it appears Tinubu is not well versed in Nigeria's politics and is therefore daydreaming. Can Tinubu be more pro-north than Obasanjo? What has Tinubu done for the so-called north that makes him think he is adored by them? How much sacrifice can Tinubu make to please the north compared to what Obasanjo has done?
While Obasanjo definitely has his flaws it is better to trust his judgement on the current political situation in Nigeria . Has Tinubu observed how the Lords of the manor called Nigeria turned Obasanjo to their punching bag despite all he has done for them? Who is then Tinubu? Should I say Tinubu is foolish or naïve? Can't Tinubu read the handwriting on the wall.?
As things stand now in Yoruba Land Tinubu can. never be at the forefront of pushing Yoruba agenda in the project Nigeria. Should Tinubu continue like this Yoruba would be worse off than the Hausa: Tinubu by 2023 would be a prince without a kingdom and the Yoruba would be slaves in their land . Tinubu has played his role and should leave the scene . A war is ravaging Yoruba Land and Tinubu cannot lead the Yoruba at war front

How can Yoruba who are already in all kind of trouble still be so divided in the face of death, with a side trying to kill the only man that is still sticking his neck out for Yoruba race at the center? I'm now more convinced than ever that we have Yoruba who are more dangerous to Yoruba nation than fulani and igbos combine.

There are fulani and igbos in different political parties but once it comes to their nations, they stick to what matters to their people. Yoruba are the only ones willing to kill their own to please outsiders.

There is a way out and a clear answer to all of these, let Yoruba pull their weight and push for regional system that will put us in control of our lives restricting fg to Abuja, and everything will fall in place.

MetaPhysical:
Very well said!

Another anti Tinubu thread! It will not work, the WOKE Yoruba won't let it stick.

The idea of Yoruba traitors in conjunction with the igbos doing everything to destroy Yorubaland while pointing at fulani won't work. igbos and fulani pose serious danger to Yorubaland. So anyone addressing one and leaving the other is just a political hack, if anything, igbos are more dangerous and must be the first to deal with not fulani.

Like someone told my aunt today, there's going to be a serious clash between Yoruba first, the traitors among us must be destroyed first. It's really a waste of time facing igbos or fulani without settling the scores among ourselves. It's a shame but it has to be done, Yoruba vs Yoruba first and the winner can then rep Yorubaland.

He is and there's nothing anyone can do aboutit.

sapoyoro:
he is not

One oloriburuku mashanfani were abugije mod banned 'wowcatty' here yesterday, that your hand you used to ban will be stricken with pain like never before, your life starts and ends here on nairaland. Oloshi, ban this one too, I need time off this shameful forum one can't confidently ask people to check out anyway. And the imbecilles that keep reporting to mods should be able to get as much as they give and not cry for help from mods.

He's the Yoruba leader by virtue of getting more votes in Yorubaland more than anyone, he's also the most influential politician, the Awolowo of our time. Tinubu think Yoruba first unlike the akotileta in Pdp. Tinubu is the Yoruba leader.

sapoyoro:
pls bro
when did tinubu become yoruba leader?
he is an apc leader and nothing more than that

You always have to be told something you already know.

Tinubu is 500,000 votes the senior of the Afenifebi in Yorubaland and so speak for us, majority carries the vote and that's after the rigging of the Pdp and busing in of ibos to Oyo state.

Lightening:
Tell us what happened during the election that portrays Tinubu as the one that speaks for Yoruba? Election that Buhari won with a few thousand votes inspite of the heavy malpractices in favour of the APC.

You are all mad! What is south? Iddiots that should be speaking for Yorubaland alone are talking south, awon were!

You need to first go and give igbo muslims freedom to practice their religion before minding what Yoruba are doing with their own.

horsepower101:
If Yoruba Christians like they can speak the truth of the situation without mincing words. If they like, they can play ostrich. I personally don’t give a rat asss.