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PoliticsRe: Kemi Olunloyo: Names Of Victims On Lekki Tollgate Panel Report Are Fictitious by zigzagluv: 12:47pm On Nov 21, 2021
which point,I have a smartphone , i dont use any social media ,
Anieke77:
Although she is making a point. But she should go and sit down
PoliticsRe: David Hundeyin And Bashir El-Rufai Fight On Twitter by zigzagluv: 12:48pm On Nov 20, 2021
I man told me yesterday , that nigeria is like French, Israel and afghanistan put together and you expect result, its impossible , i was shocked
shigoslim:
Nigeria is not meant to be one . There is hatred, anger , bitterness everywhere. The masses are not smiling. Only the polithief keep believing in this contraption nation embarassed
Foreign AffairsRe: Putin Tests 'unstoppable ' Hypersonic Missile As Tension Rage With The West(Pix) by zigzagluv: 7:58pm On Nov 19, 2021
Russia, China, and North Korea till defeat usa and her allies, usa has been on a steady decline over the years ,
Stevenson20:
Do you know why I love America, they don't showcase their military weapons and might as Russia, China, and North Korea do. You'll see their weapons when its time for action.

But on a second thought, why is men developing what will destroy him and the world at large?
Car TalkRe: Innoson Vehicle At Second Intra-african Trade Fair South Africa(photos) by zigzagluv: 8:55pm On Nov 18, 2021
is not , most of the parts are done in chine, His is an OEM manufacturer not
Baawaa:
I don't know why FG is not patronizing Innoson,maybe because of their cover-up huh
PoliticsRe: VAT War Between FG, Rivers State Affects Bauchi Budget Proposal by zigzagluv: 10:31pm On Nov 13, 2021
me?
adamsmith914:
What commodities does your state produce? He won’t answer.
PoliticsRe: VAT War Between FG, Rivers State Affects Bauchi Budget Proposal by zigzagluv: 10:13pm On Nov 13, 2021
shut and stop saying what you dont know , Other southern state will survive
adamsmith914:
Mumu Lagos state is the only state in The South that is viable, all the other states will collapse in 3 months.
PoliticsRe: VAT War Between FG, Rivers State Affects Bauchi Budget Proposal by zigzagluv: 10:09pm On Nov 13, 2021
reading and comprehension is your problem, The south will collect the VAT and will develop their state
adamsmith914:
Be waiting for VAT money, Lazy Amphibious Mumudey.
PoliticsRe: VAT War Between FG, Rivers State Affects Bauchi Budget Proposal by zigzagluv: 10:02pm On Nov 13, 2021
You are a fool,Poverty is affecting your brain
adamsmith914:
Zigzag luv it seems the smoke paper you are using to burn your hemp has clouded your brain, who gives a freaking hoot if you are not igbo?, Miserable Peasant.
PoliticsRe: VAT War Between FG, Rivers State Affects Bauchi Budget Proposal by zigzagluv: 9:52pm On Nov 13, 2021
Your father and his generation , im not even igbo , you are a fool,
adamsmith914:
That is Federal Government Jurisdiction, It has nothing to do with VAT. You children are just a bunch of clueless Mumurist, I rest my case.
PoliticsRe: VAT War Between FG, Rivers State Affects Bauchi Budget Proposal by zigzagluv: 9:31pm On Nov 13, 2021
11 oil well in anambra state , highest gas deposit in nigeria,and human capital
Godons1:
Na the 4 Eastern States go suffer am pass. Cause they are the only States that generate ZERO VAT, ZERO IGR and they contribute ZERO to the Nigerian Economy. grin grin
PoliticsRe: VAT War Between FG, Rivers State Affects Bauchi Budget Proposal by zigzagluv: 9:30pm On Nov 13, 2021
stop saying what you dont know , VAT IS collected at point of purchase,for airtime vat collect each state will be given to them ,
Coldie:
So east get human capital pass north? grin


Don’t make me laugh.

If u want to know who contributes more to Nigeria it’s visible to see, when north stopped foodstuffs from coming down south for just few days inflation went up, it could be felt all over the south, but east have been doing back to back seat at home, no single sector of the Nigerian economy had been affected, what does that tell u?
PoliticsRe: VAT War Between FG, Rivers State Affects Bauchi Budget Proposal by zigzagluv: 9:28pm On Nov 13, 2021
why are you argueing with that guy ,The east has 11 oil well, they have very deposit of GAS which will power the economic is the next 100 years,the human capital is too much , look Singapore , they dont have natural resource like the eastern part of Nigeria but the human capital push them there
tommy589:
At least they have the human capital. Not that I have the statistics but over 50% can read and write,even if they move outside the east
PoliticsRe: VAT War Between FG, Rivers State Affects Bauchi Budget Proposal by zigzagluv: 9:23pm On Nov 13, 2021
I heard FG is seeking out of Court settlement , the minister of finance said it , they know the outcome
Lordofalmajiri:
Emperor Wike bad sha grin
TravelRe: The Newly Constructed Kawu Bridge In Kaduna State by zigzagluv: 6:23pm On Nov 11, 2021
thats why buhari borrowed 16 billion usd
NoFucksToGive:
The north using southern wealth to build their desert poverty region
PoliticsRe: Nnamdi Kanu Confronts DSS Officials Over Refusal Of Legal Team To Access Court by zigzagluv: 11:30am On Nov 10, 2021
he saw camera everywhere and he know they DSS cant do anything , propaganda at his best
Ezemarcel:
This guy get mind
PoliticsRe: Nnamdi Kanu Confronts DSS Officials Over Refusal Of Legal Team To Access Court by zigzagluv: 11:29am On Nov 10, 2021
which useless balls, He saw camera everywhere and its time for him to act like a boss again , his online miscreant will write alot of fake news today
vanbonattel:
Even tormenting them at their own turf grin

Balls of steel !!!

Nnamdi Kanu is a conquering lion from the tribe of Biafra.

We bow very very low for you Sir.
FamilyRe: My House Maid Has Become My Madam In My Own Home by zigzagluv: 12:39pm On Nov 08, 2021
she cant be she has downgrade the woman , Some people feel because they are married to a rich man , Nanny opt to be slave to them, In her mind , A slave has become a Queen ....
spinna:
Why not be happy for the girl and accept her and await your own change of levels..this story is a parable against pride
PropertiesRe: Are Ibadan Real Estate Agents The Worst In Nigeria? by zigzagluv: 10:43pm On Nov 06, 2021
edo people wen de vex anyhow,
Thinktwicemybro:
I have been to Benin before, bros you clearly have not been to or live in Benin, stop talking trash. In Benin these agent trash does not exist. Edo people are not greedy.
PoliticsRe: 2023: PDP Governors Agree To Throw Presidential Ticket Open by zigzagluv: 8:06pm On Nov 04, 2021
dem wan chop e money , The ticket is going to the south
Sammy07:
Omo, throwing ticket open is only good for Atiku sad

Wikeeee grin
PoliticsRe: Premium Steel Limited Walked Out On Reps During Probe Into Assets Mismanagement by zigzagluv: 1:29am On Nov 03, 2021
You will see the MD to be an india man , they dont respect nigeria laws
Kadejo:
That was a disrespectful act from the officials of the steel company.

Yes, the system is corrupt, but disregard to constituted authorities is a clear disregard to the Nigerian State, and this is unacceptable.

The company should be seriously sanctioned.
BusinessRe: Sam Hart Opens Made In Aba Collections In UK (Pictures) by zigzagluv: 9:35pm On Nov 01, 2021
You guys always bring anything down ,but i bet you , the white will buy it more than the blacks
XXXXTENTACION:
His Village people have finally suceeded.... cheesy
selling Aba made clothes in the U.K...
who go buy am huh
na white man go buy aba made clothes... huh
PoliticsRe: 2023: PDP Governors In Deft Move Against Atiku, Saraki by zigzagluv: 9:04pm On Nov 01, 2021
yes
mypains:
Electronically, right?
PoliticsRe: 2023: PDP Governors In Deft Move Against Atiku, Saraki by zigzagluv: 11:22am On Nov 01, 2021
You forgot to note , result will be sent from polling unit
adamsmith914:
VP Osinbajo & whoever from the core North APC decides to choose most likely Zulum from Borno State will blow pdp away into oblivion for another 4 years, no way Pdp can win the elections, when Tinubu & his rigging machinery from Lagos State are somewhere in the picture, now Governor Ganduje from Kano has pledged allegiance to them.
PoliticsRe: 2023: PDP Governors In Deft Move Against Atiku, Saraki by zigzagluv: 11:20am On Nov 01, 2021
I think is speculation on the part of PDP to focus APC till fill a Norther Candidate ,is a master plan , just wait and see
Solatium:
Whoever gave PDP this formula is a dumb politician/s,there is no way Presidency will go back to the North after 8yrs of Buhari Presidency no matter how Sugar coated the make this.

If they make good their plans, i can bet with my two balls that it will be an easy win for the APC again
grin
PoliticsRe: 2023: PDP Governors In Deft Move Against Atiku, Saraki by zigzagluv: 11:14am On Nov 01, 2021
I think this is pure speculation , lets wait and see what happens ,
Ahmed0336:
Wike and other governors are rooting for Tambuwal and possibly a vice which should be one amongst the governor from south. Is tambuwal not a northernerhuh
PoliticsRe: Wike, Opara, Sekibo, Dokpesi, Lee Maeba Arrive Justice Odili's Home by zigzagluv: 12:31pm On Oct 30, 2021
THIS IS ABOUT VAT NOT PDP
muykem:
This visit has shown Mary Odlli is representative of PDP in supreme Court.
PoliticsRe: Wike, Opara, Sekibo, Dokpesi, Lee Maeba Arrive Justice Odili's Home by zigzagluv: 12:30pm On Oct 30, 2021
DID YOU SEE THE SEARCH WARRANT , NO TIME AND WRONG ADDRESS
LibertyRep:
If they have a valid search warrant, no body, no matter how highly placed should be seen or act in a way to obstruct a valid instrument of government. The judge knows this much.

But then , this is Nigeria where every tribe seems to protect its own.
PoliticsRe: 4 PDP Governors In Closed-Door Meeting With Mimiko by zigzagluv: 12:39am On Oct 29, 2021
STOP SAYING WHAT YOU DONT KNOW , LEAVE BEER PALOUR TALK
ImmaculateJOE:
Nope he is no longer there. He defected to an unknown party.
PoliticsRe: 4 PDP Governors In Closed-Door Meeting With Mimiko by zigzagluv: 12:36am On Oct 29, 2021
what are you even saying Philip is in PDP
ImmaculateJOE:
So na Mimiko Bukola Saraki dey talk about the other day.
If I be PDP, I would rather focus on bringing back Philip Shaibu. Akeredolu don pocket Ondo state, Mimiko can't bring any thing to PDP's table.

But you see Philip Shaibu in Edo state?, he is a force on his own.
AgricultureRe: Tomato Seeds Varieties - TBRFV, Fruiting style, and Yield by zigzagluv: 3:13am On Oct 27, 2021
Why are planing the tomato Nursery is to increase the yield per hectare
Attit:
365 days a year. 25k tons is 9.125 million tons.
If you remove Sundays, then, you arrive at 7.7 million tons. And if you decide to remove Saturday, you get 6.425 million tons.
Kindly do your calculation well.

However, it depends on your tomato paste processor. It may then be 25k tons maximum. As I do not expect it to operate at maximum all days long. So, it is possible to use 25k tons and float btw 19k to 25k tons. That's 76% efficiency. But I will rather work towards minimum of 95% which is 22.5k tons. You should float between 22.5k and 25k tons daily production. This is massive. Of course Saturdays must be included. Maybe you want to use Sundays as the rest days.

Plus Sundays - 8.213 million to 9.125million tons
Minus Sundays - 6.998 million to 7.778million tons

Yeah...the kilo '000 ...I missed.


I used Lagos as an example to show how massive it is. I do not expect you to set up in Lagos. Yes, you got me right. Using Lagos as an example, you can see that you need to establish in various places. Getting a farm as big as your proposal is hard. And it is not just getting land, you need water. This is important.

So, think deeply. Do you want to be moving your tomatoes over long distances? Hmmm! This is not good. Rather, you arrange your farms well and set up plants which can manage each farms in the same area. Why do you want to include additional costs of transportable over which is interstate? Not a wise option.

Put into consideration of the possiblity of paying VAT to states which will change many things. These are issues which destroy projects. Why do you want to go all out at once? This is what I am trying to tell you all along.

Even dealing with just one state is dying inside. Tomato Jos dealing with just Kaduna is still starting. Not to talk of you wanting to combine 3 states. Political issues will frustrate you. But its doable.

Yes, you are right. If you can acquire such massive land, hmmm. My point is that you cannot finish the land.


I am making comment here concerning your last sentence here that the finance will be no problem. Why dont you start farming first instead of starting your plant? Tomato Jos spent almost 10 years doing farming before migrating to paste. You do not need to do it that long. You just need a good pilot to see your efficiency. This will determine how to set up your plant. This is the mistake Dangote made. He assumed he could get from farmers and make them rich and busy. But those farmers are cursed. I know it cos I have worked with farmers. And he has decided to send them all away. Supply him tomato is additional for him as he will not beg anyone again. Even one governor wanted to force him again ask farmers supply him raw materials after his experience with the plant. Dangote just declined respectfully.


Revise your plan sir. These steps above will kill your business.

Your number one is getting a pilot done. You can do 20 acres pilot now. Do not worry about the tomato paste processor now. Sell the tomatoes after harvest. Just do this. Leave a full year for this. Forget about massive land lease for now. Land is not running anywhere. You want to use 1 year cash from cotton to do it. See, you may not use it to do the plant, but use it to set even a bigger farm.

Step 1: Get 20 acres now. And do it. If you cannot finance 20 acres, do what you can finance now. If you cannot do anything now, then still do that pilot after your cotton harvest and keep the remaining cash.

Step 2: after six months pilot, you will them have idea of what you want to do. If you are satisfied with it, go and gt massive land and start. If you arent satisfied, go for another round of pilot. Go steadily is my point.

Step 3: After pilot, you know what to do. And you know the exact land area you need. That's when you lease land. You may even start leasing before the end cos by the time you do first harvest, the whole picture will be getting clearer.

And you can move on. Massive greenhouses and bla bla bla should not even come in now. You can even do very cheap local greenhouse with wood at first or import a cheaper option for now. Why go for the huge greenhouses at the start. It doesnt make sense.

Even you have cash to start up now, do not. Start with your farm pilot. Go steadily. If its 50 acres pilot you want to sgsrt with....fine. I do not expect you to sgsrg with 1 acre pilot. It doesnt make sense.

Do not worry, you can sell your tomatoes without the processor. So, why establish the processor when you habe ready market which can absorb your tomatoes. If you were doing cassava, that's another case. But this is tomatoes. Please, leave the tomato processor for now and face farming first.

Bro, after your 20 acres pilot, and you see the amount you can raise just selling tomatoes, no one will tell you that you should farm more before setting up the plant. I am telling you. Though, after setting up your processor, you start wondering why you waited too long selling raw tomatoes.. grin



I agree. You are right here. They inflate figures crazily. The honesty of tomato Jos is the reason Mallam ElRufai supported the later. And with the US embassy backing,....hmmm.


It is hard and not hard. It is not about being able to influence 250,000 acres. Dangote can influence even 1 million ha if the land is there. It is deeper than what you are seeing. You are the project owner....fine. Start first with 10 - 50 acres pilot. Do not rush it. You do not know the details. If I want to dupe you, I will push you to sgsrt that 250,000 acres, but I know you will fight me at the end. What do I stand to gain?

The hardest part is the farming part. If you get the farming part, you may not even need to ask for additional fund to set up the plant. 40 tons per hectare is for the masters. I think you should be talking of 20 tons for now. Or even less.

I will tell you what to do. Guide you. That's mine. If you read all we habe spoken here, you will understand me well.

I am not permanently based in Nigeria, so I cannot promise anything. But I promise to guide you if you will follow my lead.
AgricultureRe: Tomato Seeds Varieties - TBRFV, Fruiting style, and Yield by zigzagluv: 2:53am On Oct 27, 2021
thanks for the reply my friend but i think you are just trying to see fault in what im writing as i dont know what im saying, First no company works 365 days , There will be Holiday , The Muslim holiday , christian holiday, Public holiday e.t.c .so i did my calculation very well and i know what im saying the company that was to design the plant have started work in Italy. Why im talking about Benin edo state because my brother is building has industry park on a 500 hectare of land, There will be 24 hours power supply , because of the Gas turbine Generator
On this calculation you are right "However, it depends on your tomato paste processor. It may then be 25k tons maximum. As I do not expect it to operate at maximum all days long. So, it is possible to use 25k tons and float btw 19k to 25k tons. That's 76% efficiency. But I will rather work towards minimum of 95% which is 22.5k tons. You should float between 22.5k and 25k tons daily production. This is massive. Of course Saturdays must be included. Maybe you want to use Sundays as the rest days.

Plus Sundays - 8.213 million to 9.125million tons
Minus Sundays - 6.998 million to 7.778million tons

Yeah...the kilo '000 ...I missed."
But Saturday will an half day job , from 8am to 1pm , I know is a massive job...

You know where i have used to get land for family has water , I dont know if you have been to edo state, what part of the country are you from? All location the farms will be located there will be water , im aware of it , I will not be moving tomatoes for a long distance , im not farming in the north , we have alot of farming land in edo state, Kogi... Like tomatoes Jos, She placed her progressing plant KD but the plant in JOS..
First the vat law has not take effect , lastly the VAT or TAX are not paid on agricultural produce.
"Yes, you are right. If you can acquire such massive land, hmmm. My point is that you cannot finish the land." what do you mean i cant finish the land, im not going to buy them but lease them for 5 years or properly 10 years ....
Tomato Jos spent 10 years farming tomatoes because she doesn't have a working capital,No bank would have given her loans or supported her , Many still believe she didnt own the progressing plant by herself ,there politicians investing on the plant, that's why an APC handle tweet about the plant before...
Dangote mistake was not the farm , but rely on sat from the the Nigerian government and to many consultant in the progress. You are not just assume does farmer are cursed bro , thats a wrong thing for you to say. We are Dangote is planing two different thing, We are building our farm and our plant according to the capacity the farm, We are not rely on any farmers. We have study the Dangote farm issue carefully and see his mistake, we never repeat them.

"You want to use 1 year cash from cotton to do it. See, you may not use it to do the plant, but use it to set even a bigger farm." dont assume on this issue because you dont know the amount , The company for plant has started work , is the farm and nursery side we are planing , this is why i said ending of next year.. You should know on the first year of manufacturing the plant cant run a fully capacity , it can start by 1.4 million mt progressing .
The Massive greenhouses is form nursery...

On the first start could be 100,000 acre, we know we can archive it.we do both dry and wet season... Dangote try to follow same way by owning his farm


Attit:
365 days a year. 25k tons is 9.125 million tons.
If you remove Sundays, then, you arrive at 7.7 million tons. And if you decide to remove Saturday, you get 6.425 million tons.
Kindly do your calculation well.

However, it depends on your tomato paste processor. It may then be 25k tons maximum. As I do not expect it to operate at maximum all days long. So, it is possible to use 25k tons and float btw 19k to 25k tons. That's 76% efficiency. But I will rather work towards minimum of 95% which is 22.5k tons. You should float between 22.5k and 25k tons daily production. This is massive. Of course Saturdays must be included. Maybe you want to use Sundays as the rest days.

Plus Sundays - 8.213 million to 9.125million tons
Minus Sundays - 6.998 million to 7.778million tons

Yeah...the kilo '000 ...I missed.


I used Lagos as an example to show how massive it is. I do not expect you to set up in Lagos. Yes, you got me right. Using Lagos as an example, you can see that you need to establish in various places. Getting a farm as big as your proposal is hard. And it is not just getting land, you need water. This is important.

So, think deeply. Do you want to be moving your tomatoes over long distances? Hmmm! This is not good. Rather, you arrange your farms well and set up plants which can manage each farms in the same area. Why do you want to include additional costs of transportable over which is interstate? Not a wise option.

Put into consideration of the possiblity of paying VAT to states which will change many things. These are issues which destroy projects. Why do you want to go all out at once? This is what I am trying to tell you all along.

Even dealing with just one state is dying inside. Tomato Jos dealing with just Kaduna is still starting. Not to talk of you wanting to combine 3 states. Political issues will frustrate you. But its doable.

Yes, you are right. If you can acquire such massive land, hmmm. My point is that you cannot finish the land.


I am making comment here concerning your last sentence here that the finance will be no problem. Why dont you start farming first instead of starting your plant? Tomato Jos spent almost 10 years doing farming before migrating to paste. You do not need to do it that long. You just need a good pilot to see your efficiency. This will determine how to set up your plant. This is the mistake Dangote made. He assumed he could get from farmers and make them rich and busy. But those farmers are cursed. I know it cos I have worked with farmers. And he has decided to send them all away. Supply him tomato is additional for him as he will not beg anyone again. Even one governor wanted to force him again ask farmers supply him raw materials after his experience with the plant. Dangote just declined respectfully.


Revise your plan sir. These steps above will kill your business.

Your number one is getting a pilot done. You can do 20 acres pilot now. Do not worry about the tomato paste processor now. Sell the tomatoes after harvest. Just do this. Leave a full year for this. Forget about massive land lease for now. Land is not running anywhere. You want to use 1 year cash from cotton to do it. See, you may not use it to do the plant, but use it to set even a bigger farm.

Step 1: Get 20 acres now. And do it. If you cannot finance 20 acres, do what you can finance now. If you cannot do anything now, then still do that pilot after your cotton harvest and keep the remaining cash.

Step 2: after six months pilot, you will them have idea of what you want to do. If you are satisfied with it, go and gt massive land and start. If you arent satisfied, go for another round of pilot. Go steadily is my point.

Step 3: After pilot, you know what to do. And you know the exact land area you need. That's when you lease land. You may even start leasing before the end cos by the time you do first harvest, the whole picture will be getting clearer.

And you can move on. Massive greenhouses and bla bla bla should not even come in now. You can even do very cheap local greenhouse with wood at first or import a cheaper option for now. Why go for the huge greenhouses at the start. It doesnt make sense.

Even you have cash to start up now, do not. Start with your farm pilot. Go steadily. If its 50 acres pilot you want to sgsrt with....fine. I do not expect you to sgsrg with 1 acre pilot. It doesnt make sense.

Do not worry, you can sell your tomatoes without the processor. So, why establish the processor when you habe ready market which can absorb your tomatoes. If you were doing cassava, that's another case. But this is tomatoes. Please, leave the tomato processor for now and face farming first.

Bro, after your 20 acres pilot, and you see the amount you can raise just selling tomatoes, no one will tell you that you should farm more before setting up the plant. I am telling you. Though, after setting up your processor, you start wondering why you waited too long selling raw tomatoes.. grin



I agree. You are right here. They inflate figures crazily. The honesty of tomato Jos is the reason Mallam ElRufai supported the later. And with the US embassy backing,....hmmm.


It is hard and not hard. It is not about being able to influence 250,000 acres. Dangote can influence even 1 million ha if the land is there. It is deeper than what you are seeing. You are the project owner....fine. Start first with 10 - 50 acres pilot. Do not rush it. You do not know the details. If I want to dupe you, I will push you to sgsrt that 250,000 acres, but I know you will fight me at the end. What do I stand to gain?

The hardest part is the farming part. If you get the farming part, you may not even need to ask for additional fund to set up the plant. 40 tons per hectare is for the masters. I think you should be talking of 20 tons for now. Or even less.

I will tell you what to do. Guide you. That's mine. If you read all we habe spoken here, you will understand me well.

I am not permanently based in Nigeria, so I cannot promise anything. But I promise to guide you if you will follow my lead.
AgricultureRe: Tomato Seeds Varieties - TBRFV, Fruiting style, and Yield by zigzagluv: 2:18pm On Oct 26, 2021
thanks for your reply
I will answer your concern
About 19 to 20 tons daily production. Quite big. It is massive like you said.Is not 19 tons daily but about 20,000 to 25,000 ton daily

Some figures arent adding up here. 250,000 hectares is 90% of the land area of Lagos. That is "over huge". Anyway, you will have to go round states to get this. Maybe possible, I do not know your strategy to achieve this. But it is not adding up.

For 7 million MT annually, if you have an efficient farm, you need 2304 - 4608 hectares (5760 - 11,520 acres). And you must get 20 - 40 tons yield per acre.

Most seeds are 40 tons potential yield as claimed by producers, but you can hardly get it. Though, it is very possible if you do it right. Presently, Nigerian best farmers get about max of 24 tons like I have written earlier. Most still get around 5 to 10 in SS and SW, while 2 tons per acre is common in the north because they dont know how to do it.

Yes i will go like 4 state but i could use about 250,000 acre but im not opening the company in lagos but in edo state , Im thinking farming in edo state, kogi, oyo, and any where we could lease land, we are going lease land from state government , like a 15 years land lease ,
Going by your calculation 40 tons yield per acre multiply it by 11520 arces will give you about 480000 mt ton annually. the tomatoes processing plant will be 7 million mt annually.

It is good, but you can still get something a cheaper option which will last you longer. Just get tropical design and not temperate kf you dont want to run into trouble.

the link i sent to you in a nursery plant for a company called morning star in California

I totally understand this is not a small project but required huge capital in terms of salary and everything , im totally aware of the dollar rate in the market , Im not starting a pilot or anything like that.

i'M on the owner and decision maker , The finance come by that time will not be a problem
This is the plan:
1. Get a land lease hand agreement in different part of the state, country.

2. Have a nursery warehouse , move from nursery to transplant in different farm land,
Note this part of the company and everybody working there will be paid.The nursery warehouse will be built before the tomatoes progressing plant.
3. Grow tomatoes ,Harvest and send to the plant for progressing.

This is why i was contacting you , i need guys that really know what they are doing not bunch of consultant that will be paid , then go hire people to work with.
On the part of Dangote investing 3 billion on Nursery , leave those guy they like hyping figure to get more CBN loan...
"You dont want to rely on figures from consultants. This is how they finished Dangote." i don't want to rely on any figure but i just want to export tomatoes paste to other African countries.

"If you know you can influence establishment of a pilot of 20 acres" i can influence a project of 250,000 arce of tomatoes farming
I know tomatoes farming is hard , this is why i will like to hire the right people not consultants , they people will be in-charge of the farm, this is why i contact you ,I will like to build team with guyS that know what they do and how to archive success.



Attit:
About 19 to 20 tons daily production. Quite big. It is massive like you said.

Sale of cotton bale to raise capital? Ok.


Some figures arent adding up here. 250,000 hectares is 90% of the land area of Lagos. That is "over huge". Anyway, you will have to go round states to get this. Maybe possible, I do not know your strategy to achieve this. But it is not adding up.

For 7 million MT annually, if you have an efficient farm, you need 2304 - 4608 hectares (5760 - 11,520 acres). And you must get 20 - 40 tons yield per acre.

Most seeds are 40 tons potential yield as claimed by producers, but you can hardly get it. Though, it is very possible if you do it right. Presently, Nigerian best farmers get about max of 24 tons like I have written earlier. Most still get around 5 to 10 in SS and SW, while 2 tons per acre is common in the north because they dont know how to do it.


It is good, but you can still get something a cheaper option which will last you longer. Just get tropical design and not temperate kf you dont want to run into trouble.


Do pilot. At least 1 year pilot. You may want to move start up to 2023. Or do a pilot now, and start 2022 ending. Cover both dry and wet season. You have a lot to learn.

If you intend setting up what you claim above, I think you should have no stress financiallly in setting up 10 to 20 acres pilot. That's 0.0017 land area of your total production from my estimation. And this is not cheap. Even it is just 1 ha, start the pilot asap.

If you ask me, I know you do not know what it entails, and it is why your figures and expectations are high. Of course, you can achieve the expectation, but you wont with your method.

You are talking about a multi billion naira project. Dangote spent 3 billion only on his massive tomato nursery greenhouse when dollar was around N300 plus or less. Now, its around N600. And you are setting up tomato farm and paste. Really I do not think you know the kind of investment needed. We are talking of bi-bi-bi-llions. Salary you will pay per month....maybe will be close to N3million or even over if you pay well for a start while you are expected to pay more. I dont know if you own the project, but experience lately shows there is no money again. One guy was doing 5 plots pilot and was telling me lies he was doing 20 acres. Lol. I knew from start, I was just looking at the guy. And many other lies. People do like big men in Nigeria. I deliberately threw questions along, and he kept telling lies on lies. Honestly, how such person will be successful, I dont know. So, look at yourself well. What you are calling here is massive. And the present economy does not allow it except you are extremely rich. And very rich people dont really go into farming. And if you arent the owner, you cannot make decision. I work with decision makers (the owners). This has been my principle for a long time.

So, start with a pilot. 1 plot pilot is a NO for you. Even 2 acres plot is nothing much. You need to start with something reasonable which can measure your toughness and tolerance. Learn the curve well. Push yield to 30 tons at least per acre. Very few can do this.

Sell tomatoes also and add money to what you get in your cotton farm. On that 20 acres, if you get 20 tons per acre, sales can run to 170million naira for a 6-months project if you do it well. Even it is just 2 acres you decide to do, at least, do it well now. You dont want to rely on figures from consultants. This is how they finished Dangote.

If you know you can influence establishment of a pilot of 20 acres knowing well it will cost some millions running over even 20 depending where you source your materials cos I dont always get involved in such, I can give you overview of what you need to do so you can digest it well and see of ypu are ready or not. Maybe you will need time to do tomato farming for good 5 years before you attempt to move into paste production. Maybe you can do it in 2022.

I am not asking you to pay me a kobo for it. It is a deep analysis you wont get elsewhere. I do it for almost everyone and 1 out of 5 drops the idea of doing tomato paste. The last guy was so funny. Lies over lies. And I kept wondering how such will survive. Someone who hasn't crossed stage 1. Tomato paste production? A project I decided to abandon myself. You will surround yourself with good people. Make your security tight also. Just know that several people will be millionaires through the project. But if you listen to me, you will cut off wastes and tackle them. Or maybe you are one of the people who wants to get rich via it, and you want to take idea. Sir, I dont work for/with consultants/managers/directors ooooo. This project is massive. Please, forgive me for my doubts. I work with decision makers. Those who has the final say. Not that my say will pass through some red tapes. My say goes straight to the one person who makes decisions. That's it. I have rejected numerous offers cos of this reason. Please, forgive me for my doubts. The project is technical and massive. Its cos of dishonest people I am saying this.

Finally, farming is dynamic. What works today may stop working next year. Obviously climate change and introduction of viral diseases by business men are two major factors. Dangote brought seeds when he started, he has changed to other varieties. He wanted to use farmers, he has started his farm. If you ask him today, he will tell you he made a blunder building a plant without knowing farming. He felt tomato is like sugarcane. Lol. Sugarcane that you leave and just walk away. See eh! Tomato farmers and workers will play azonto music and you see then dancing Makosa. Dem don confuse you. Na you go tell them say na that Azonto make dem dance to that Azonto Music. If dem wan change am, you know. That's what it takes to be successful. Else, they will build mansions for their girlfriends via your project. grin

Please, if you own the project, or you are a decision maker, feel free to send me email.

I pray success comes your way.

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