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Who Is Allah? by MrAnony1(m): 7:30am On Jul 31, 2012
Out of interest, could someone describe to me what Islam's view is of God.
1.Who is Allah?
2.What is his nature? and what are his attributes?
3.What ideals does he value and what things does he detest?
4.and finally, what does he require of man?
Re: Who Is Allah? by cyrexx: 7:54am On Jul 31, 2012
Hmmm,

reminds of this book "Who is Allah" by G.J.O. Moshay.

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Re: Who Is Allah? by vedaxcool(m): 9:44am On Jul 31, 2012
1. Allah Is the creator


Allah is describes Himself in many ways in the Qur'an but one sur'ah that gives a very brief and concise descriptionof Allah is Suratul Ihklas ( The purity):

Say: He is Allah, (the) One; (1)

Allah, the Eternal; (2)

He did not beget (give birth) and He was not begotten (given birth to); (3)

And there has never been anyone equal to Him (4)

Allah is the creator of the Universe and everything that exist, he alone is worthy of worship and he alone do we beseech for help!

In the Qur'an he describes himself again as

Rabbul-'Aalamee : The Lord of the Worlds, or The Master of the Universe, or Everything that exist!

Hence only Him rules over the Universe and everything that exist, whether it be the physical realm or spiritual He rules over everything!

Let me stop here!

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Re: Who Is Allah? by MrAnony1(m): 9:58am On Jul 31, 2012
vedaxcool: 1. Allah Is the creator


Allah is describes Himself in many ways in the Qur'an but one sur'ah that gives a very brief and concise descriptionof Allah is Suratul Ihklas ( The purity):

Say: He is Allah, (the) One; (1)

Allah, the Eternal; (2)

He did not beget (give birth) and He was not begotten (given birth to); (3)

And there has never been anyone equal to Him (4)

Allah is the creator of the Universe and everything that exist, he alone is worthy of worship and he alone do we beseech for help!

In the Qur'an he describes himself again as

Rabbul-'Aalamee : The Lord of the Worlds, or The Master of the Universe, or Everything that exist!

Hence only Him rules over the Universe and everything that exist, whether it be the physical realm or spiritual He rules over everything!

Let me stop here!

Good so far, you've answered number 1. Now to the rest, please continue with numbers 2,3 and 4.

What is his character like? What does he value and what does he despise? What does he require of man?
Re: Who Is Allah? by vedaxcool(m): 9:58am On Jul 31, 2012
2. Attribute of Allah

1. Allah: Allah (The God)

2. AR-RAHMÂN The Most Compassionate, The Beneficent, The Gracious

3 Ar-Rahim (الرحيم) The All-Mercifu

4 Al-Malik (الملك) The Absolute Ruler
5 Al-Quddus (القدوس) The Pure One or The Holy
6 As-Salam (السلام) The Source of Peace
7 Al-Mu'min (المؤمن) The Inspirer of Faith
8 Al-Muhaymin (المهيمن) The Guardian
9 Al-Aziz (العزيز) The Victorious
10 Al-Jabbar (الجبار) The Compeller
11 Al-Mutakabbir (المتكبر) The Greatest
12 Al-Khaliq (الخالق) The Creator
13 Al-Bari' (البارئ) The Maker of Order
14 Al-Musawwir (المصور) The Fashioner
15 Al-Ghaffar (الغفار) The Forgiving
16 Al-Qahhar (القهار) The Subduer
17 Al-Wahhab (الوهاب) The Giver of All
18 Ar-Razzaq (الرزاق) The Sustainer
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27 As-Sami (السميع) The Hearer of All
28 Al-Basir (البصير) The Seer of All
29 Al-Hakam (الحكم) The Judge
30 Al-`Adl (العدل) The Just
31 Al-Latif (اللطيف) The Subtle One
32 Al-Khabir (الخبير) The All-Aware
33 Al-Halim (الحليم) The Forbearing
34 Al-Azim (العظيم) The Magnificent
35 Al-Ghafur (الغفور) The Forgiver and Hider of Faults
36 Ash-Shakur (الشكور) The Rewarder of Thankfulness
37 Al-Ali (العلى) The Highest
38 Al-Kabir (الكبير) The Greatest
39 Al-Hafiz (الحفيظ) The Preserver
40 Al-Muqit (المقيت) The Nourisher
41 Al-Hasib (الحسيب) The Accounter
42 Al-Jalil (الجليل) The Mighty
43 Al-Karim (الكريم) The Generous
44 Ar-Raqib (الرقيب) The Watchful One
45 Al-Mujib (المجيب) The Responder to Prayer
46 Al-Wasi (الواسع) The All-Comprehending
47 Al-Hakim (الحكيم) The Perfectly Wise
48 Al-Wadud (الودود) The Loving One
49 Al-Majid (المجيد) The Majestic One
50 Al-Ba'ith (الباعث) The Resurrector
51 Ash-Shahid (الشهيد) The Witness
52 Al-Haqq (الحق) The Truth
53 Al-Wakil (الوكيل) The Trustee
54 Al-Qawiyy (القوى) The Possessor of All Strength
55 Al-Matin (المتين) The Forceful One
56 Al-Waliyy (الولى) The Governor
57 Al-Hamid (الحميد) The Praised One
58 Al-Muhsi (المحصى) The Appraiser
59 Al-Mubdi' (المبدئ) The Originator
60 Al-Mu'id (المعيد) The Restorer
61 Al-Muhyi (المحيى) The Giver of Life
62 Al-Mumit (المميت) The Taker of Life
63 Al-Hayy (الحي) The Ever Living One
64 Al-Qayyum (القيوم) The Self-Existing One
65 Al-Wajid (الواجد) The Finder
66 Al-Majid (الماجد) The Glorious
67 Al-Wahid (الواحد) The One, the All Inclusive, The Indivisible
68 As-Samad (الصمد) The Satisfier of All Needs
69 Al-Qadir (القادر) The All Powerful
70 Al-Muqtadir (المقتدر) The Creator of All Power
71 Al-Muqaddim (المقدم) The Expediter
72 Al-Mu'akhkhir (المؤخر) The Delayer
73 Al-Awwal (الأول) The First
74 Al-Akhir (الأخر) The Last
75 Az-Zahir (الظاهر) The Manifest One
76 Al-Batin (الباطن) The Hidden One
77 Al-Wali (الوالي) The Protecting Friend
78 Al-Muta'ali (المتعالي) The Supreme One
79 Al-Barr (البر) The Doer of Good
80 At-Tawwab (التواب) The Guide to Repentance
81 Al-Muntaqim (المنتقم) The Avenger
82 Al-'Afuww (العفو) The Forgiver
83 Ar-Ra'uf (الرؤوف) The Clement
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99 As-Sabur (الصبور) The Patient One

http://www.searchtruth.com/Allah/99Names.php

The above are some of Allah's attributes, there are 99 names of Allah that describes Him.

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Re: Who Is Allah? by MrAnony1(m): 9:58am On Jul 31, 2012
cyrexx: Hmmm,

reminds of this book "Who is Allah" by G.J.O. Moshay.
Have you got a pdf of it?
Re: Who Is Allah? by tbaba1234: 10:06am On Jul 31, 2012
grin grin ^I read that book in high school, That is not a book, you want to read: Unless you want to be filled with fallacies and bold faced lies. Unfortunately, many unsuspecting christians take everything as fact.... If you want to know, who Allah is, read the Quran... It is really that simple.

Id be starting a thread that takes a journey through the Quran soon Insha Allah... follow this thread for updates

https://www.nairaland.com/1001687/through-quran-simple-english
Re: Who Is Allah? by vedaxcool(m): 10:13am On Jul 31, 2012
3. Allah values and the following:

Obedience to his will and commands, which are described in the Qur'an in the form of dos and don't , chief of which is to acknowledge that his one and has no partner nor ascribing to anyone what his attributes confers on him. After this, we are to avoid shierk ( associating partners with Allah) in its every form, this for instance could be as little as pretending, that is you want to pray and you then begin to do your prayer in such a way that it is to satisfy those looking at you rather than Allah this is called the hidden shierk and then it can take the form actually worshipping idols! in fact Allah despises the worship of false country!

4. Man was created for no other purpose than to worship Allah. the worship of Allah is central to why man lives and die. In every aspects of our live we are expected to worship Allah thereby obeying his will and command. and yes also give thanks to Allah at every juncture of our life!

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Re: Who Is Allah? by vedaxcool(m): 10:17am On Jul 31, 2012
tbaba1234: grin grin ^I read that book in high school, That is not a book, you want to read: Unless you want to be filled with fallacies and bold faced lies. Unfortunately, many unsuspecting christians take everything as fact.... If you want to know, who Allah is, read the Quran... It is really that simple.

Id be starting a thread that takes a journey through the Quran soon Insha Allah... follow this thread for updates

https://www.nairaland.com/1001687/through-quran-simple-english

yeah I also read the book, the author was a coward in every word, he mixed politics and religious issues and then pretend that he was writing about Allah from a ?? perspective, funny he was catholic and hide behind moshay a Jewish name! The book to me represented the lows anybody could go discredit the religion Allah made for mankind! I think his book was the first bold attempt at proselytism by lies! which many now follow! He kept asking where is Jesus grave yet I could also ask where is my ancestors grave? just to porous on logic!
Re: Who Is Allah? by MrAnony1(m): 10:18am On Jul 31, 2012
vedaxcool: 2. Attribute of Allah

1. Allah: Allah (The God)

2. AR-RAHMÂN The Most Compassionate, The Beneficent, The Gracious

3 Ar-Rahim (الرحيم) The All-Mercifu

4 Al-Malik (الملك) The Absolute Ruler
5 Al-Quddus (القدوس) The Pure One or The Holy
6 As-Salam (السلام) The Source of Peace
7 Al-Mu'min (المؤمن) The Inspirer of Faith
8 Al-Muhaymin (المهيمن) The Guardian
9 Al-Aziz (العزيز) The Victorious
10 Al-Jabbar (الجبار) The Compeller
11 Al-Mutakabbir (المتكبر) The Greatest
12 Al-Khaliq (الخالق) The Creator
13 Al-Bari' (البارئ) The Maker of Order
14 Al-Musawwir (المصور) The Fashioner
15 Al-Ghaffar (الغفار) The Forgiving
16 Al-Qahhar (القهار) The Subduer
17 Al-Wahhab (الوهاب) The Giver of All
18 Ar-Razzaq (الرزاق) The Sustainer
.

.

.
27 As-Sami (السميع) The Hearer of All
28 Al-Basir (البصير) The Seer of All
29 Al-Hakam (الحكم) The Judge
30 Al-`Adl (العدل) The Just
31 Al-Latif (اللطيف) The Subtle One
32 Al-Khabir (الخبير) The All-Aware
33 Al-Halim (الحليم) The Forbearing
34 Al-Azim (العظيم) The Magnificent
35 Al-Ghafur (الغفور) The Forgiver and Hider of Faults
36 Ash-Shakur (الشكور) The Rewarder of Thankfulness
37 Al-Ali (العلى) The Highest
38 Al-Kabir (الكبير) The Greatest
39 Al-Hafiz (الحفيظ) The Preserver
40 Al-Muqit (المقيت) The Nourisher
41 Al-Hasib (الحسيب) The Accounter
42 Al-Jalil (الجليل) The Mighty
43 Al-Karim (الكريم) The Generous
44 Ar-Raqib (الرقيب) The Watchful One
45 Al-Mujib (المجيب) The Responder to Prayer
46 Al-Wasi (الواسع) The All-Comprehending
47 Al-Hakim (الحكيم) The Perfectly Wise
48 Al-Wadud (الودود) The Loving One
49 Al-Majid (المجيد) The Majestic One
50 Al-Ba'ith (الباعث) The Resurrector
51 Ash-Shahid (الشهيد) The Witness
52 Al-Haqq (الحق) The Truth
53 Al-Wakil (الوكيل) The Trustee
54 Al-Qawiyy (القوى) The Possessor of All Strength
55 Al-Matin (المتين) The Forceful One
56 Al-Waliyy (الولى) The Governor
57 Al-Hamid (الحميد) The Praised One
58 Al-Muhsi (المحصى) The Appraiser
59 Al-Mubdi' (المبدئ) The Originator
60 Al-Mu'id (المعيد) The Restorer
61 Al-Muhyi (المحيى) The Giver of Life
62 Al-Mumit (المميت) The Taker of Life
63 Al-Hayy (الحي) The Ever Living One
64 Al-Qayyum (القيوم) The Self-Existing One
65 Al-Wajid (الواجد) The Finder
66 Al-Majid (الماجد) The Glorious
67 Al-Wahid (الواحد) The One, the All Inclusive, The Indivisible
68 As-Samad (الصمد) The Satisfier of All Needs
69 Al-Qadir (القادر) The All Powerful
70 Al-Muqtadir (المقتدر) The Creator of All Power
71 Al-Muqaddim (المقدم) The Expediter
72 Al-Mu'akhkhir (المؤخر) The Delayer
73 Al-Awwal (الأول) The First
74 Al-Akhir (الأخر) The Last
75 Az-Zahir (الظاهر) The Manifest One
76 Al-Batin (الباطن) The Hidden One
77 Al-Wali (الوالي) The Protecting Friend
78 Al-Muta'ali (المتعالي) The Supreme One
79 Al-Barr (البر) The Doer of Good
80 At-Tawwab (التواب) The Guide to Repentance
81 Al-Muntaqim (المنتقم) The Avenger
82 Al-'Afuww (العفو) The Forgiver
83 Ar-Ra'uf (الرؤوف) The Clement
.

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99 As-Sabur (الصبور) The Patient One

The above are some of Allah's attributes, there are 99 names of Allah that describes Him.
Thanks, you've answered number 2, now let's move on to numbers 3 and 4. What things does he like and what things offend him? also what does he require of man?
Re: Who Is Allah? by vedaxcool(m): 10:19am On Jul 31, 2012
^^^

Answered two posts back!
Re: Who Is Allah? by MrAnony1(m): 10:23am On Jul 31, 2012
vedaxcool: 3. Allah values and the following:

Obedience to his will and commands, which are described in the Qur'an in the form of dos and don't , chief of which is to acknowledge that his one and has no partner nor ascribing to anyone what his attributes confers on him. After this, we are to avoid shierk ( associating partners with Allah) in its every form, this for instance could be as little as pretending, that is you want to pray and you then begin to do your prayer in such a way that it is to satisfy those looking at you rather than Allah this is called the hidden shierk and then it can take the form actually worshipping idols! in fact Allah despises the worship of false country!

4. Man was created for no other purpose than to worship Allah. the worship of Allah is central to why man lives and die. In every aspects of our live we are expected to worship Allah thereby obeying his will and command. and yes also give thanks to Allah at every juncture of our life!
Sorry I didn't see this before I replied earlier. However i think I get number 4 quite well but let's focus a bit more on number 3 now.
Could you list a few examples of Allah's dos and don'ts, also could you tell me in what ways has Allah revealed himself?
Re: Who Is Allah? by tbaba1234: 10:38am On Jul 31, 2012
3. The major pillars are as follows:

i. Believe in one God, without associating partners with him,
ii. Observe the obligatory prayers
iii. Fast in the month of Ramadan
iv. Give the obligatory charity out of your wealth to those that are needy each year (if you can afford to)
v. Go for pilgrimage (If you can afford)

Other very major aspects of Islam

vi. Respect for parents
vii. Honour the Orphans
Viii. Feed the needy and urge others to do the same.
ix. Stay away from Intoxicants (Alcohol, drugs etc) and gambling
x. Be kind to neighbours.
xi. Eat only food that has been killed in the name of God
Xii. Do not be arrogant
Xiii. Guard your modesty and your private parts.

Basically obey the commandent of Allah as it is detailed in the Quran...

The Quran is the literal word of Allah and that is how He has revealed himself. The Book is out of this world.
Re: Who Is Allah? by MrAnony1(m): 10:43am On Jul 31, 2012
tbaba1234: 3. The major pillars are as follows:

i. Believe in one God, without associating partners with him,
ii. Observe the obligatory prayers
iii. Fast in the month of Ramadan
iv. Give the obligatory charity out of your wealth to those that are needy each year (if you can afford to)
v. Go for pilgrimage (If you can afford)

Other very major aspects of Islam

vi. Respect for parents
vii. Honour the Orphans
Viii. Feed the needy and urge others to do the same.
ix. Stay away from Intoxicants (Alcohol, drugs etc) and gambling
x. Be kind to neighbours.
xi. Eat only food that has been killed in the name of God
Xii. Do not be arrogant
Xiii. Guard your modesty and your private parts.

Basically obey the commandent of Allah as it is detailed in the Quran...

The Quran is the literal word of Allah and that is how He has revealed himself. The Book is out of this world.
Ok, cool let's keep moving on. Do you believe the Jewish Torah (what Christians refer to as the Old testament) describes the same God as the Koran?
Re: Who Is Allah? by vedaxcool(m): 10:46am On Jul 31, 2012
Mr_Anony:
Sorry I didn't see this before I replied earlier. However i think I get number 4 quite well but let's focus a bit more on number 3 now.
Could you list a few examples of Allah's dos and don'ts, also could you tell me in what ways has Allah revealed himself?

Dos
1. Imam ( Faith In Allah's Oneness)
2. Salat ( Formal prayer)
3. Zakat ( Alms Tax)
4. Yamn ( Fasting during the month of Ramadhan)
5. Hajj (Pilgrimage).
6. Good acts ( Telling the truth, . . ., clearing the road of harmful objects etc)
7. Kindness to ones parent, neighbours etc
8. Asking Allah for forgiveness for sins committed etc

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following the exemplary life of Muhammad pbuh.



Don'ts

1. Committing Shriek/Idol worship

2. Disobedience to Allah's command

3. Blasphemy

4. Slandering Allah and His prophets pbuh

5. Killing and murder

6 Bad deeds ( fornication, adultery, homosexuality, Lyin, stealing etc.)
Re: Who Is Allah? by tbaba1234: 10:48am On Jul 31, 2012
The torah is the original scripture given to Moses, If that is what you mean, then yes... The Pentateuch does not fully represent that. But it still carries the basic principle of one God..
Re: Who Is Allah? by tbaba1234: 11:00am On Jul 31, 2012
One correction: It is called Quran...... not koran
Re: Who Is Allah? by LagosShia: 11:05am On Jul 31, 2012

Re: Who Is Allah? by LagosShia: 11:07am On Jul 31, 2012
Sermon Of Tawheed (monotheism) By Imam Ali (as)

SERMON 185 from Nahj al-Balagha (the Peak of Eloquence) by Imam Ali (as)

About the Oneness of Allah. This sermon contains principles of knowledge which no other sermon contains

He who assigns to Him (different) conditions does not believe in His oneness, nor does he who likens Him grasp His reality. He who illustrates Him does not signify Him. He who points at Him and imagines Him does not mean Him. Everything that is known through itself has been created, and everything that exists by virtue of other things is the effect (of a cause). He works but not with the help of instruments. He fixes measures but not with the activity of thinking. He is rich but not by acquisition.

Times do not keep company with Him, and implements do not help Him. His Being precedes times. His Existence precedes non-existence and His eternity precedes beginning. By His creating the senses it is known that He has no senses. By the contraries in various matters it is known that He has no contrary, and by the similarity between things it is known that there is nothing similar to Him. He has made light the contrary of darkness, brightness that of gloom, dryness that of moisture and heat that of cold. He produces affection among inimical things.

He fuses together diverse things, brings near remote things and separates things which are joined together. He is not confined by limits, nor counted by numbers. Material parts can surround things of their own kind, and organs can point out things similar to themselves. The word(1) "mundhu" (i.e. since) disproves their eternity, the word "qad" (that denotes nearness of time of occurrence), disproves their being from ever and the word "lawla" (if it were not) keep them remote from perfection.

Through them the Creator manifests Himself to the intelligence, and through them He is guarded from the sight of the eyes.
Stillness and motion do not occur in Him, and how can that thing occur in Him which He has Himself made to occur, and how can a thing revert to Him which He first created, and how can a thing appear in Him which He first brought to appearance. If it had not been so, His Self would have become subject to diversity, His Being would have become divisible (into parts), and His reality would have been prevented from being deemed Eternal. If there was a front to Him there would have been a rear also for Him . He would need completing only if shortage befell Him. In that case signs of the created would appear in Him, and He would become a sign (leading to other objects) instead of signs leading to Him. Through the might of His abstention (from affectedness) He is far above being affected by things which effect others.

He is that which does not change or vanish. The process of setting does not behove Him. He has not begotten any one lest He be regarded as having been born. He has not been begotten otherwise He would be contained within limits. He is too High to have sons. He is too purified to contact women. Imagination cannot reach Him so as to assign Him quantity. Understanding cannot think of Him so as to give him shape. Senses do not perceive Him so as to feel Him. Hands cannot touch Him so as to rub against Him. He does not change into any condition. He does not pass from one state to another. Nights and days do not turn Him old. Light and darkness do not alter Him.

It cannot be said that He has a limit or extremity, or end or termination; nor do things control Him so as to raise Him or lower Him, nor does anything carry Him so as to bend Him or keep Him erect. He is not inside things nor outside them. He conveys news, but not with the tongue or voice. He listens, but not with the holes of the ears or the organs of hearing. He says, but does not utter words. He remembers, but does not memorise. He determines, but not by exercising His mind. He loves and approves without any sentimentality (of heart). He hates and feels angry without any painstaking. When He intends to create someone He says "Be" and there he is, but not through a voice that strikes (the ears) is that call heard. His speech is an act of His creation. His like never existed before this. If had been eternal it would have been the second god.

It cannot be said that He came into being after He had not been in existence because in that case the attributes of the created things would be assigned to Him and there would remain no difference between them and Him, and He would have no distinction over them. Thus, the Creator and the created would become equal and the initiator and the initiated would be on the same level. He created (the whole of) creation without any example made by someone else, and He did not secure the assistance of any one out of His creation for creating it.

He created the earth and suspended it without being busy, retained it without support, made it stand without legs, raised it without pillars, protected it against bendings and curvings and defended it against crumbling and splitting (into parts). He fixed mountains on it like stumps, solidified its rocks, caused its streams to flow and opened wide its valleys. Whatever He made did not suffer from any flow, and whatever He strengthened did not show any weakness.
He manifests Himself over the earth with His authority and greatness. He is aware of its inside through his knowledge and understanding. He has power over every thing in the earth by virtue of His sublimity and dignity. Nothing from the earth that he may ask for defies Him, nor does it oppose Him so as to overpower Him. No swift-footed creature can run away from Him so as to surpass Him. He is not needy towards any possessing person so that he should feed Him. All things bow to Him and are humble before His greatness. They cannot flee away from His authority to someone else in order to escape His benefit or His harm. There is no parallel for Him who may match Him and no one like Him so as to equal Him.

He will destroy the earth after its existence, till all that exists on it will become non-existent. But the extinction of the world after its creation is no stranger than its first formation and invention. How could it be? Even if all the animals of the earth, whether birds or beasts, stabled cattle or pasturing ones, of different origins and species, dull people and sagacious men -- all jointly try to create (even) a mosquito they are not able to bring it into being and do not understand what is the way to its creation. Their wits are bewildered and wandering. Their powers fall short and fail, and return disappointed and tired, knowing that they are defeated and admitting their inability to produce it, also realising that they are too weak (even) to destroy it.

Surely, after the extinction of the world, Allah the Glorified will remain alone with nothing else beside Him. He will be, after its extinction, as He was before its production: without time or place or moment or period. At this moment, period and time will not exist, and years and hours will disappear. There will be nothing except Allah, the One, the All-powerful. To Him is the return of all matters. Its initial creation was not in its power; and the prevention of its extinction was (also) not in its power. If it had the power to prevent it, it would have existed for ever. [b]When He made anything of the world, the making of it did not cause Him any difficulty, and the creation of anything which He created and formed did not fatigue Him. [/b]He did not create it to heighten His authority nor for fear of loss or harm, nor to seek its help against an overwhelming foe, nor to guard against any avenging opponent with its help, nor for the extension of His domain by its help, nor for boasting (over largeness of His possession) against a partner, nor because He felt lonely and desired to seek its company.
Then after its creation He will destroy it, but not because any worry has overcome Him in its upkeep and administration, nor for any pleasure that will accrue to Him, nor for the cumbrousness of anything over Him. The length of its life does not weary Him so as to induce Him to its quick destruction. But Allah, the Glorified, has maintained it with His kindness, kept it intact with His command and perfected it with His power. Then after its destruction, He will resuscitate it, but not for any need of His own towards it, nor to seek the assistance of any of its things against it, nor to change over from the condition of loneliness to that of company, nor from the condition of ignorance and blindness to that of knowledge and search, nor from paucity and need towards needlessness and plenty, nor from disgrace and lowliness towards honour and prestige.

http://www.al-islam.org/nahjul/185.htm
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(1). The meaning is that the sense for which the words "mundhu" , "qad" and "lawla" have been formed is opposed to the attributes of "Ever", "Eternal" and "Perfect". Therefore, their application to anything would prove that they have come into existence from non-existence and are imperfect. For example, "mundhu" is used to denote time as is "qad wujida mundu kadha" (this thing is found since so-and-so). Here a time limit has been stated, and anything for which a limit of time can be described cannot exist from ever or for ever. The word "qad" shows (indicating the present perfect tense) the immediate past. This sense also can apply to a thing which is limited in time. The word "lawla" is used to denote the negation of something in another thing, as "ma ahsanahu wa akmalahu lawla annahu kadha" (how handsome and perfect it would be if it were so-and-so). Therefore, the thing for which this word is used would be in need of others in handsomeness and perfection, and would remain deficient by itself.
Re: Who Is Allah? by MrAnony1(m): 11:10am On Jul 31, 2012
tbaba1234: One correction: It is called Quran...... not koran
noted
tbaba1234: The torah is the original scripture given to Moses, If that is what you mean, then yes... The Pentateuch does not fully represent that. But it still carries the basic principle of one God..
Ok fine, we are making progress. The reason I brought his up is because if you believe that God gave Moses a revelation of Himself in the Torah, the surely the revelation of God in the Quran must not contradict God's revelation in the Torah. don't you agree?
Re: Who Is Allah? by LagosShia: 11:11am On Jul 31, 2012
so Mr.Anony,there i have presented you with two materials on who God is in Islam,if you have no time to examine the holy Quran or you cannot understand it.

so read these two materials and understand.
Re: Who Is Allah? by tbaba1234: 11:15am On Jul 31, 2012
Mr_Anony:
noted
Ok fine, we are making progress. The reason I brought his up is because if you believe that God gave Moses a revelation of Himself in the Torah, the surely the revelation of God in the Quran must not contradict God's revelation in the Torah. don't you agree?

Exactly, only problem is, we do not have the original torah... What you have was not written by moses....
Re: Who Is Allah? by MrAnony1(m): 11:21am On Jul 31, 2012
LagosShia: so Mr.Anony,there i have presented you with two materials on who God is in Islam,if you have no time to examine the holy Quran or you cannot understand it.

so read these two materials and understand.
Thanks I've seen them
Re: Who Is Allah? by MrAnony1(m): 11:43am On Jul 31, 2012
tbaba1234:

Exactly, only problem is, we do not have the original torah... What you have was not written by moses....
Interesting you would say that because you would have to say that the Jews have been worshiping and continue to worship God in error and the very nature of God as was first exposed to the Jews is not God at all because personally, I believe that God is one and the truth is one and there cannot be multiple truths defining the same thing. So it is either the God in the Torah is the same as God in the Quran or they are two different entities entirely or there are different perceptions of God but only one can be right. Do you agree?
By the way, how do you know for sure that the torah the Jews use is not the original torah?

Before you answer, and so that we can be on the same page, could you tell me a few things that God cannot do as a result of His nature preferably with references from the quran and then we can look at how the Torah deviates from the nature of God and if the quran paints a more accurate picture.
Re: Who Is Allah? by MrAnony1(m): 11:47am On Jul 31, 2012
vedaxcool:

Dos
1. Imam ( Faith In Allah's Oneness)
2. Salat ( Formal prayer)
3. Zakat ( Alms Tax)
4. Yamn ( Fasting during the month of Ramadhan)
5. Hajj (Pilgrimage).
6. Good acts ( Telling the truth, . . ., clearing the road of harmful objects etc)
7. Kindness to ones parent, neighbours etc
8. Asking Allah for forgiveness for sins committed etc

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following the exemplary life of Muhammad pbuh.



Don'ts

1. Committing Shriek/Idol worship

2. Disobedience to Allah's command

3. Blasphemy

4. Slandering Allah and His prophets pbuh

5. Killing and murder

6 Bad deeds ( fornication, adultery, homosexuality, Lyin, stealing etc.)

Thanks now one last thing; could you tell me some things that Allah can never do because they will contradict his nature if he does them.
Re: Who Is Allah? by cyrexx: 12:02pm On Jul 31, 2012
Mr_Anony:
Have you got a pdf of it?

nope, i only have the physical books, not pdfs, of this great author, he also wrote
1. The Anatomy of the Quran
2. Teachings of Jesus and The Five Pillars of Islam
3. Conversation With A Muslim Scholar

you can purchase them on amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Who-This-Allah-G-J-O-Moshay/dp/075890715X

it provides a great unbiased insight on Islam which i believe you will find useful, recommend it if you are serious about understanding and debating these guys.
Re: Who Is Allah? by proo212(m): 12:04pm On Jul 31, 2012
Mr. Anony, thanks for these questions and I see the angle you are coming from with due respect to our brothers in the Islamic faith.
Re: Who Is Allah? by LagosShia: 12:28pm On Jul 31, 2012
Mr_Anony:

Thanks now one last thing; could you tell me some things that Allah can never do because they will contradict his nature if he does them.

and here we go again with Mr. Anony's christian delusion about what God can do and cannot do:

https://www.nairaland.com/995694/what-bible-say-muhammad/1
Re: Who Is Allah? by LagosShia: 12:31pm On Jul 31, 2012
Mr_Anony:
Interesting you would say that because you would have to say that the Jews have been worshiping and continue to worship God in error and the very nature of God as was first exposed to the Jews is not God at all because personally, I believe that God is one and the truth is one and there cannot be multiple truths defining the same thing. So it is either the God in the Torah is the same as God in the Quran or they are two different entities entirely or there are different perceptions of God but only one can be right. Do you agree?
By the way, how do you know for sure that the torah the Jews use is not the original torah?

Before you answer, and so that we can be on the same page, could you tell me a few things that God cannot do as a result of His nature preferably with references from the quran and then we can look at how the Torah deviates from the nature of God and if the quran paints a more accurate picture.




before talking about the torah,as a trinitarian christian you need to do the following first:

1.) show us where in the old testament God promised to come down in human form through the womb of a woman.

2.) where in the old testament God is known as a triune God?
Re: Who Is Allah? by tbaba1234: 12:34pm On Jul 31, 2012
Mr_Anony:
Interesting you would say that because you would have to say that the Jews have been worshiping and continue to worship God in error and the very nature of God as was first exposed to the Jews is not God at all because personally, I believe that God is one and the truth is one and there cannot be multiple truths defining the same thing. So it is either the God in the Torah is the same as God in the Quran or they are two different entities entirely or there are different perceptions of God but only one can be right. Do you agree?
By the way, how do you know for sure that the torah the Jews use is not the original torah?

Before you answer, and so that we can be on the same page, could you tell me a few things that God cannot do as a result of His nature preferably with references from the quran and then we can look at how the Torah deviates from the nature of God and if the quran paints a more accurate picture.

My comment is quite straightforward, there are probably many things in the original torah still in the pentateuch but the fact is that the original scrolls given to Musa have been lost, there are many problems with the text you have. What you have was not written by Moses, even a jewish scriptural scholar will tell you that... There are many references to that: First of all, the death of moses, his burial and things after his death were spoken about.

Spinoza published a unified critical analysis demonstrating the problematic passages pervaded the text:


There were the third-person accounts of Moses, the statements that Moses was unlikely to have made (e.g., "humblest man on earth"wink, the report of Moses' death, the expression "to this day," the references to geographical locales by names that they acquired after Moses' lifetime, the treatment of matters that were subsequent to Moses (e.g., the list of Edomite kings), and various contradictions and problems in the text of the sort that earlier investigators had observed. He also noted that the text says in Deuteronomy 34, "There never arose another prophet in Israel like Moses...." Spinoza remarked that these sound like the words of someone who live a long time after Moses and had the opportunity to see other prophets and thus make the comparison. (They also do not sound like the words of the humblest man on earth.) Spinoza wrote, "It is...clearer than the sun at noon that the Pentateuch was not written by Moses, but by someone who lived long after Moses." Spinoza was excommunicated from Judaism. Now his work was condemned by Catholics and Protestants as well. His book was placed on the Catholic Index, within six years thirty-seven edicts were issued against it, and an attempt was made on his life.


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The scriptural integrity is compromised....

The nature of Allah has already been detailed by vedaxcool, I can not comment on what you call 'the torah' because quite frankly, it isn't, Maybe it has some aspects of the original torah but it isn't what was revealed to moses....

Allah is not subject to anything in the creation; He is above the Heavens; He has the power to actualise the every affair. His omnipotence can not be limited or shared, it also includes the impossibility of failure. He is nothing like his creation.

Any question that goes against this principle makes no sense, It is like “a circle triangle” or an “amphibian mammal”. To ask a question like does God do this even though it goes against his omnipotence is irrational and absurd... That is what ascribing a son to God, or a trinity is...

The God of Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon them all) are one and the same... Indivisible,One.... Nothing comparable to Him...

The Quran as a book is beyond the productive capacity of humans, It is the only book that has been preserved since revelation, just like Allah promised.... I understand the direction of your questions but the proof of the Quran are just too many to waste time on these kinds of questions.... It confirms what is true in your bible... It is a stunning book:

If you have doubts about the revelation We have sent down to Our servant, then produce a single sura like it– enlist whatever supportersa you have other than God– if you truly [think you can]. 24 If you cannot do this– and you never will– then beware of the Fire prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men andstones.
(Surah 2:23-24)

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Re: Who Is Allah? by vedaxcool(m): 1:08pm On Jul 31, 2012
Mr_Anony:

Thanks now one last thing; could you tell me some things that Allah can never do because they will contradict his nature if he does them.

He does not beget!

He is not unjust to his creation!

He acts in the way the befits his majesty!

and he does not contradicts his attributes listed earlier!
Re: Who Is Allah? by MrAnony1(m): 1:39pm On Jul 31, 2012
cyrexx:

nope, i only have the physical books, not pdfs, of this great author, he also wrote
1. The Anatomy of the Quran
2. Teachings of Jesus and The Five Pillars of Islam
3. Conversation With A Muslim Scholar

you can purchase them on amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Who-This-Allah-G-J-O-Moshay/dp/075890715X

it provides a great unbiased insight on Islam which i believe you will find useful, recommend it if you are serious about understanding and debating these guys.
Thanks man, I'm not sure I'll buy them though at least for now. What I'm more interested in is getting to know who Allah is from the mouths of his followers here on NL so that no one will accuse me of misrepresenting him. Thanks though

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