Lordave: When are we going to have our own field marshal?

na2day!:

We don dey gradually derail this thread o!
According to the article, Turkey is vehemently against its removal and consider it part of her own security and that's why its still there till now and NATO had to oblige, is that not dash?

maryjames9: Personally,israel has always been an endangered specie,being in the midst of enemies.What i know is US is either trying to forge a bond with morsi or empower egypt military all aimed at protecting Israel.On the other hand is Iran Nuclear weapon faced with calculated assasination of iran's nuclear scientists,cyber attack,sanctions from U.S,europe and arab league.Syria is another issue here with the region becoming a platform for power tussle between US and china/russia union.What i'm saying is Israel is always gona be on their toes.However,i dont believe morsi wil want to be US boy and being an islamist party,he wil have an unrepentant hatred for israel.Lets watch as events unfold. God help us these UN Security nations dont let hell on earth for power tussle

Lordave: When are we going to have our own field marshal?

davidylan:

Makes zero sense. if it was "dashed" then why is the US exercising authority on whether to remove those weapons or not in the same article you quote? Or do you need me to define "dash" for you? If you dont know something just say so... too tired of ridiculous fellows just bleating around with half-baked misinformation.

na2day!:

I'm also tired of doing back and forth with you mumu on an issue that is has apparent as the day, the weapon as at now is on Turkish soil fitted for Turkish air force, even NATO has agreed not to remove it and Turkey is using it as part of her security strategy, and here you are rambling like a cretin, ehn go and take from them naa!
mtshew!

davidylan:

Daft. the problem with empty barrels like you is that internet jingoism is your only claim to fame. You said the US "dashed" turkey nuclear weapons. Even your own article makes nonsense of that clear case of misinformed stup[i]i[/i]dity. Of course bellicose id[i]io[/i]ts like you try to hide your own inadequacy with personal attacks. Not a surprise.

Again read the link i gave you... by your own claims then the US has also "dashed" Germany, Belgium, Luxemburg and the Netherlands nuclear weapons? Of course those weapons are also fitted to be carried by turkish air force jets as part of being a NATO ally. Turkey cannot unilaterally choose to use those bombs on Kurdistan for example as they would if they owned it... you know under the terms of "dash" no?

na2day!:

you know u really are a dum.bass, we are talking about middle east countries that have a bone to grind with Israel and u are mentioning European countries ?
For your info, nuclear weapons are not meant to be used to suppress internal insurrection (like attacking PKK) but as a means of deterrence, meaning if you bomb me, i will do worse!
Now you have[size=18pt] middle east country(Turkey)[/size] who was fitted with these weapons arguing that it should not be taken away because its part of Her own security and NATO agreed, and here you are saying its not useful to them, as i've told you before go carryam, cretin!

Ozonna: This is not good for Isreal at all. The Military headed by Tantawi are trying to prevent a full blown war between Isreal and Egypt and this will happen immediatelly Mursi led Brotherhood takes full control of the military. Infact, moderate Islamic nations like Saudi,UAE,Qatar,Bahrain, etc will not be happy with this development. They are all scared of radical Islamic groups and thier sponsors thats why they they don't like leaders of Syria and Iran.

This is not good for world peace.

na2day!:


War is not as easy as you think, we are not talking about weapons now,
Are you aware the same America that is arming Israel with advanced weapons is also arming Egypt?
Sane Governments do their best to support neighbors that will be friendly to them and go out of their ways to undermine those who won't.
If Morsi have his way, Israel will become a giant Bull's eye pinned to the wall.

davidylan:

Really? Daft again. we are talking specifically about your false claim that the US dashed Turkey nuclear weapons. turkey is a south east European country [size=13pt]by the way and not a part of the middle east you know[/size]? I already know that nuclear weapons are for detterence... that is why the US has nuclear weapons in several NATO countries of which Turkey, Germany, Netherlands and Luxemburg are a part.

You're just struggling too hard to "win" an internet argument. what a disgraceful shame. Its ok to admit that you goofed and you really dont know half what you are saying. Calling me a cretin wont change that.

If turkey is a middle east country then why is it applying to be a part of the EU? Ode calling his superiors cretins.

na2day!:


Since you don't have points again and you are now clutching at straws, i've no choice again but to pity you,
Having said that though, the majority of Turkey (97%) is in the Middle East. Only 3% of Turkey is located in Europe.
You can check again on wikipedia:
Traditional definition of the Middle East
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East
Is Turkey not there?
You, sir, are an id.iot!

davidylan:

you're just a bloviating nuisance. By your claims then Cyprus, Azerbaijan, Georgia and portions of Russia should be considered part of the middle east right?
Again i ask... if Turkey is a middle east nation then why does it have an EU application pending for the last 5 yrs?

Ode.

In the west, Turkey borders Greece and Bulgaria, and the touristy part of Istanbul is also in the 3% of the country that is officially in Europe. But of course that means that 97% of the country is in Asia, and more specifically, in the [size=13pt]Middle East[/size]. The eastern edge of Turkey borders Iraq, Iran, and Syria, and what’s in between is heavily influenced by those cultures, without most of the complications that go along with that troubled region.

na2day!:


I've always been warned never to argue with a cret.in,
I think i must capitulate now so that people will not label us with the same hue.
Finally!

http://www.priceoftravel.com/2598/9-reasons-budget-travelers-should-head-to-turkey-soon/
Of course Turkey wants to be part of EU because of the perks involved, every fool knows that!
Even Nigeria too will demand for that if 3% of her landmass is in Europe!

Olodostein:

Nah Nah Nah...... You see, them Islamists are not sellouts. They are not carried away by material things, I trust them on that.

The West have made the biggest blunder in history and it will come back to bite them hard.

Israel will survive this new frontier.

by davidylan(m): 6:19pm

na2day!:
Israel will be very very uncomfortable now! grin


why? undecided Egypt will be scorched earth by the time Israel is through with them.

na2day!:


War is not as easy as you think, we are not talking about weapons now,
Are you aware the same America that is arming Israel with advanced weapons is also arming Egypt?
Sane Governments do their best to support neighbors that will be friendly to them and go out of their ways to undermine those who won't.
If Morsi have his way, Israel will become a giant Bull's eye pinned to the wall.

na2day!:

My brother, this situation is going to give even the American secretary of state(hillary) sleepless night tonight!
We all know, the Islamic brotherhood are chameleons (after the revolution, they promised not field a presidential candidate, but when the coast was clear, they immediately fielded Morsi).
They have links with many Islamic hardliners like Hamas, Hez et al in the middle east.
Imagine the scenario where they control the army?
That means -
Sinai is no longer safe (It hasn't been safe anyway since the revolution)
Hamas will now have official pass to bring in their weapons instead of tunneling like rats
The Sinai will immediately become a staging port for terrorist attack into Israel.

davidylan:

you're just a bloviating nuisance. By your claims then Cyprus, Azerbaijan, Georgia and portions of Russia should be considered part of the middle east right?
Again i ask... if Turkey is a middle east nation then why does it have an EU application pending for the last 5 yrs?

Ode.

na2day!:


War is not as easy as you think, we are not talking about weapons now,
Are you aware the same America that is arming Israel with advanced weapons is also arming Egypt?
Sane Governments do their best to support neighbors that will be friendly to them and go out of their ways to undermine those who won't.
If Morsi have his way, Israel will become a giant Bull's eye pinned to the wall.

ACM10:

Bros, pls don't insult us. We have many Nigerians that follows global events and politics. Don't think that you have exclusive knowledge of global politics

mu2sa2: I don't think Egypt wants war with Israel. But time was when Israeli Army was considered invincible: the Hezbollah defeated them in Lebanon; Syria has announced that it has stockpiles of deadly chemical weapons, which they will jolly well use against Israel & mark u there can be no winner in a massive chemical war fare today; Iran's military capability is scaring everybody. So long for Israel being invincible.

marabout: Not everybody understands global politics like you do. Some just talk of weapons and what not. Israel would rather not be fighting every neighbour if they can avoid it.
Being war-ready everytime costs money. Even Israeli girls must do military duty. Israel pays a heavy price.

Sweetnecta: @davidylan: you know the unseen, since you are playing Yahweh? God can humble the overconfident goliath by the hands of small man david.

it happened before because goliath was a disbeliever and an evll doer.

weak small man david was a believer in One God which gave him advantage by true faith over the ill-fated arrogant disbeliever who relied on his empty power not considering what God will bring about.

Rex123:

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dont8: Who is Isreal if not for US arming them, we shouldn't forget they're in the midst of enemies, Hamas, Hezbolla and middle east rivals Syria and Iran, Iran especially can wipe them off the world map if care is not taken.

Lordave: When are we going to have our own field marshal?

na2day!:


War is not as easy as you think, we are not talking about weapons now,
Are you aware the same America that is arming Israel with advanced weapons is also arming Egypt?
Sane Governments do their best to support neighbors that will be friendly to them and go out of their ways to undermine those who won't.
If Morsi have his way, Israel will become a giant Bull's eye pinned to the wall.

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mu2sa2: I don't think Egypt wants war with Israel. But time was when Israeli Army was considered invincible: the Hezbollah defeated them in Lebanon; Syria has announced that it has stockpiles of deadly chemical weapons, which they will jolly well use against Israel & mark u there can be no winner in a massive chemical war fare today; Iran's military capability is scaring everybody. So long for Israel being invincible.

Olodostein:

At one time during my career, i stayed in cairo. Any news from that region interest me.

You see, A westerner is the Most clueless when it comes to the middle east and how the typical Arab mind works.

An Arab never believes that anyone including the Israelites can defeat them. No matter how much you humilate them, they will keep coming, hoping that one day they will defeat you.

Tantawi is sacked. Nothing will happen besides he is just another Nubian to them. Ordinary Egyptians are solidly behind the Islamists.

The Jews and the Arabs understands themselves better than anyone else and will sort themselves out.