texazzpete: For anyone still doubting the camera performance...

Here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jFhhBJ1URCg

4llerbuntu:
im not sure if WP will really grab the needed market share with just nokia.

because its likely the other manufacturers may simply give up making WP phones,
to get a equally compelling device will take time! no contest!

walcolm:

pulllleeeeeezzzzzz.....pure bullshit. the pureview camera is a great job but i dont believe this set up....when you buy the publicly available 920, we'll meet in the office and redo this test.

for all you know, the Nokia handset in that clip is rigged with a camera that would not been in the retail unit mere mortals like you will eventually shell out money for. those other devices could have also been tampered with beforehand.

unless you tell me you believe everything in Hollywood movies, disregard that clip

walcolm:

that picture from the Nokia camera is a fraud and it has been exposed here....http://www.intomobile.com/2012/09/06/did-nokia-fake-its-still-lumia-920-images-too/

4llerbuntu: http://sefsar.com/nokia-faked-the-still-photos-too



Somebody is always watching. caught in the act.... again

Bawss1:

The line in bold caught my eye. What informed this observation?

soft-touch:
Interesting arguement from all.
Anyway, What is the point of all these?
Anyone that says Nokia/Lumia/W8 phone is not good enough should go and produce his own and show us!
Anyone who claimed iPhone/iOS is scrap should show us the one his or his village has produced!
Anyone who claimed Samsung/Andriod is a trash, sholud come with his or her own design!
Anyone who says, Blackberry/RIM is a failure should go and commit suiside! or better hug transformer!

Use the phone that meets your day-to-day needs and stop bragging.
How many people use all the function of most of the phone sef? Some people never exaust all features of Nokia 3310, they are talking about iOS/Andriod/W8

This is always root of racial discrimination. Abi, if we are venting like volcanic on non-living gadget that will be of less value in next 6 months, I just imagine what we happen if humans are involve. Atomic-Tribal-War

zaibatsu: @Topic This might just be it for Nokia. The shove from thumb-twiddling indecision to a truly profitable platform. They've always had the potential for greatness, and now the latent potential is becoming visible once again.

Really looking forward to this...

zaibatsu: @Topic This might just be it for Nokia. The shove from thumb-twiddling indecision to a truly profitable platform. They've always had the potential for greatness, and now the latent potential is becoming visible once again.

Really looking forward to this...

4llerbuntu:

Do you see HTC or samsung making a WP phone that has the hardware quality of these Nokia products immediately?

They cannot/will not be allowed to get to the market before Nokia.

Given a choice of buying a WP phone, which would you buy? a Lumia or other manufacturers? it will take a major miracle for any oother manufacturer to produce a product that actually matches these Lumias AND MARKET THEM. the marketing effort sef na big hurdle.


note that the other manufacturers do not have the advantage of being Microsoft's baby. the entry point and costs for them are high.
In this game as shown for WP7 fones, Microsoft is willing to bankroll Nokia and write off large losses, absorb their financial issues.

Nokia also does not pay license fees to Microsoft, the other manufacturers will have to for WP8. they got waivers for WP7 tho, yet market was bad. Nokia moved 7 Million units, i dont think the other manufacturers moved 5 million combined!

Building and marketing a phone is not beans, its a high risk investment. when you are not sure of even breaking even, its better not to go into it.


Bottomline is, it may be too expensive/risky to compete with Nokia on WP8 at the start. if and when it gains market share, then maybe pple will think about going into it.

sniperwolf: This phone has no radio. WTF!

texazzpete:

FM radio? This is 2012 o!

4llerbuntu: @jedisco. take a deep breath. take a glass of water.

now read that my post you quoted AGAIN, LIKE THREE TIMES.

now tell us how u interpreted it to mean i said the lumia wont suceed. i want to presume english comprehension is not an issue for u.

its really hard to be civil to u. honestly, plus i am starting to seriously think aboutt leaving this board.

smh.

mhozzis: So. enlighten me pls

texazzpete:

I do not know if there's an FM radio app in the 920, but i hardly see the need for one these days. I have NEVER used the FM radio in my SGS III before.

texazzpete:

FM radio? This is 2012 o!

2)visibly better screen (Much better sunlight readability, better contrast, 25% better brightness than the brightest phone on the market, ability to manipulate the screen even while wearing gloves, 'floating' display)
3)Far better Cameras (Nokia promises the best image stabilization of any phone camera, better low light performance than even many SLRs)
4) Wireless charging (charge without wires)
5) 2000 mah battery

bigbrovar:

Beside the camera (and seriously Nokia still owns that crown) I haven't seen any thing here that blows mind when compared to what the competition is offering. For Nokia and maybe the wp ecosystem its a great leap no doubt but compared with what is already out there it seems like playing catch up.

I guess one will have to wait and see how things are implemented because right now no known human outside of Nokia has been allowed to play with with or even touch the l920. Until the device is released or reviewed I think it is too early to get excited.

Let's see how well the city lens map thingie works in real life usage.

How accessible the wireless charging would be. (The galaxy s3 is also touted to support wireless charging but until the accessories for enabling wireless charging becomes part of the retail box. It won't ever become mainstream. Just an item to tick of in the specs sheet.)

How really good the display is compared to the competition.

And most important of all. We would get to see how really good wp8 is.right now we can only assume that it would be better than wp7 as it based on NT core and allows for native c++ in 3rd party app development. However we should remember that wp8 is a complete rewrite and in many sense a 0.1 release. The process of porting NT down to mobile will not be easy so fingers crossed on how the final product would turn out.

The way I see it the event of last week (where no announcement or pricing plan was released) was a desperate attempt to get something out there before iPhone 5 is announced and released. Elop did promise to shorten the length of time between device announcement and their release that did not happen last week. I keep my fingers crossed and see how the final product performs. Call me a doubting Thomas but many times I have been burnt by Nokia in the past as what was announced always turns out to be awesomer compared to what is actually released. (Looking at n97, n8)

bigbrovar:

Beside the camera (and seriously Nokia still owns that crown) I haven't seen any thing here that blows mind when compared to what the competition is offering. For Nokia and maybe the wp ecosystem its a great leap no doubt but compared with what is already out there it seems like playing catch up.

I guess one will have to wait and see how things are implemented because right now no known human outside of Nokia has been allowed to play with with or even touch the l920. Until the device is released or reviewed I think it is too early to get excited.

Let's see how well the city lens map thingie works in real life usage.

How accessible the wireless charging would be. (The galaxy s3 is also touted to support wireless charging but until the accessories for enabling wireless charging becomes part of the retail box. It won't ever become mainstream. Just an item to tick of in the specs sheet.)

How really good the display is compared to the competition.

And most important of all. We would get to see how really good wp8 is.right now we can only assume that it would be better than wp7 as it based on NT core and allows for native c++ in 3rd party app development. However we should remember that wp8 is a complete rewrite and in many sense a 0.1 release. The process of porting NT down to mobile will not be easy so fingers crossed on how the final product would turn out.

The way I see it the event of last week (where no announcement or pricing plan was released) was a desperate attempt to get something out there before iPhone 5 is announced and released. Elop did promise to shorten the length of time between device announcement and their release that did not happen last week. I keep my fingers crossed and see how the final product performs. Call me a doubting Thomas but many times I have been burnt by Nokia in the past as what was announced always turns out to be awesomer compared to what is actually released. (Looking at n97, n8)

texazzpete:

So...if Nokia could put in a powerful camera like that in that same shell and show it off in a production unit, what would stop them from putting it in the actual device?

Abeg leave all these silly conspiracy theories alone.

texazzpete:
Actually, in that article that isn't the faked one. The photo you're quoting is actually what your link says is the REAL photo from a Lumia 920.
You may need to pick up a copy of Queen Primer or Brighter Grammar to brush up your reading skills.

4llerbuntu: post the pictures taken with nightmode on too for adequate comparison.

dont do half measures, full disclosure.

NIGHT MODE ACTIVATED ONES TOO

walcolm:
excerpt from the article i quoted is below:
Nokia admitted that its Lumia 920 promotional ad contained video recorded by a DSLR and not its PureView camera as claimed in the video. According to a post by Youssef Sarhan, the Finnish company also faked some of the still photos in that video, too.
Sarhan points to the still picture above that allegedly shows the optical image stabilization of the Lumia 920. He notes that the sparkles shown in the background street lights could not have been produced by the Lumia camera, which has a fixed aperture of f/2. This effect is only present in photos captured with camera that’s set to a higher aperture like f/22. It’s a common photography effect that occurs in night shots like the one above.

the reference pointed out a picture at the top of the page and says the picture is the fake picture! if the picture is the one taken by the 920, will the article say its fake? i'm sure you're the one who needs the QUEEN PRIMER AND BRIGHTER GRAMMAR to aid your comprehension or better still help your reading skills first of all. if you don't read, its hard to comprehend

btw, throwing insults at will (especially when it is not merited) just because you're on a faceless forum is juvenile and doesn't show class #justsaying

According to a post by Youssef Sarhan, the Finnish company also faked some of the still photos in that video, too.

jedisco:

The night mode was quite better but still far below that of the lumia and the difference is even much wider when you compare the amount of detail taken in by them.

4llerbuntu:

considering the amount of blur nko?