Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,159,012 members, 7,838,537 topics. Date: Friday, 24 May 2024 at 03:23 AM

Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. - Politics (4) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Politics / Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. (17309 Views)

Doyin Okupe Blasts Osinbajo:"You Lied In Church That Jonathan Built No Road'(pic / SSA To Saraki, Omishore Lied In His Tweet About El-Rufai - Olatunde Bakare / Senate President Saraki Lied In His Official Election Forms - Sahara Reporters (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by Jeboy(m): 11:20pm On Oct 01, 2012
@Gbawe

I used to respect you before but the way you are attempting to be blind to d truth just because you want to call a dog a bad name. Its not fair. I remembered the TI rating improvement was the first post I created in Nairaland and people did not bother to comment because it was good news. Now you prefer to escalate evil because it will boost your ego. You want TI to give you rating for 2012 year when we have not finished 3rd Quarter of 2012. The TI rating with anti-corruption improvement we re talking about is for 2011. He might have mistaken dis years anti-corruption work for last years landmark improvement for TI rating but dat does not remove the fact that it so improved while he is charge. Gbawe and Co would have been happy if the indicators were pointing d country in bad light. You guys don't behave like progressives at all. Is that how people scan through Fashola govt to look for loopholes? This cheap black mail won't take you guys anywhere. Criticize and be a worthy opposition
for the sake of progress and not blackmail. If there's anything d rating has done, it has proved most of your claims that corruption heightens in GEJ era or GEJ also influenced their 2011 report. Una no dey try at all thinking you re doing GEJ disservice but not knowing you re killing d image of dis country. I bow for una oh

2 Likes

Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by Megabyts(m): 11:22pm On Oct 01, 2012
Oga GEJ where are the fuel subsidy paliative buses? Abi na lie you talk?

1 Like

Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by Megabyts(m): 11:22pm On Oct 01, 2012
Oga GEJ where are the fuel subsidy paliative buses? Abi na lie you talk?
Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by LeJeun3: 11:24pm On Oct 01, 2012
samm_miey: Can sumbody pls tel me somethin?....what's so unique in garri dat virtualy al&sundry r so freak abt it in nairaland?smh

Guess U just arrived Nigeria! Something even Baba delights in, you are feeling repulsed by? Ah ha SMH at You.
Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by Gbawe: 11:37pm On Oct 01, 2012
taharqa:

@Gbawe. Thou ACN Goon, are you not getting the bolded part upside down: American and other International groups withdrew during Yar'adua tenure who they openingly accused of stalling the half-hearted efforts of Obasanjo( you culd not have forgotten now, could you?); they only re-engaged after GEJ took over cos of some measure of sincerity they said they saw.

No LIES plz, but you can mastur.bate away; you are apparently having a 'free' day

It is either you are too intellectually lazy to seach for knowledge or you are engaged in a ploy to deceive others you assume are too gullible to use google. Read below to see the views of the USA about GEJ's Government.


http://saharareporters.com/news-page/us-government-dismisses-nigeria%E2%80%99s-war-against-corruption-hot-air

US Government Dismisses Nigeria’s War Against Corruption As Hot Air
Posted: June 7, 2012 - 18:46

US Sec. of State Hillary Clinton and President Goodluck Jonathan of Nigeria
By SaharaReporters, New York
The United States has again dismissed Nigeria’s anti-corruption efforts as mere talk, describing the Goodluck Jonathan era as one in which the government is not implementing the law, and officials engage in corrupt practices with impunity.

“Massive, widespread, and pervasive corruption affected all levels of government and the security forces,” [b]it said of Nigeria in its 2011 Country Reports on Human Rights Practices, which was submitted to Congress by Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton. The department submits reports on all countries receiving assistance and all United Nations Member States to the U.S. Congress in accordance with the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 and the Trade Act of 1974.

“There was a widespread perception that judges were easily bribed and that litigants could not rely on the courts to render impartial judgments,” said the report in its segment on Nigeria. “Citizens encountered long delays and alleged requests from judicial officials for bribes to expedite cases or obtain favorable rulings.”

It described the efforts of the Economic and Financial Commission (EFCC) as “largely ineffectual,” and stated that President Jonathan in November 2011 removed the EFCC Chair, Farida Waziri, after credible allegations appeared that she was engaged in corrupt practices.

“Public officials, including the president, vice president, governors, deputy governors, cabinet ministers, and legislators (at both federal and state levels), must comply with financial disclosure laws, including the requirement to declare their assets before assuming and after leaving office,” noted the report. “Violators risked prosecution, but cases rarely came to conclusion.”

Notable here would be President Jonathan, who has refused to declare his assets, igniting speculation as to the depth and spread of his wealth, and how that may be responsible for his fear of confronting corruption, including prosecuting Mrs. Waziri after firing her for “credible allegations” of corrupt practices.

On other subjects, the performance of the government was also indicted. For instance, on “Respect for the Integrity of the Person,” the report stated that the government or its agents committed numerous arbitrary or unlawful killings. This would corroborate the argument of many Nigerians about the inability of the security forces to solve crime, and that the government is responsible for them.

“During the year the Joint Task Force (JTF)...conducted raids on militant groups and criminal suspects in the Niger Delta and Borno State, resulting in numerous deaths and injuries to both alleged criminals and civilians,” said the report. “According to credible eyewitness accounts, the JTF committed illegal killings during attempts to apprehend members of the extremist group Boko Haram (“Western education is anathema,” in Hausa) in Borno State and surrounding areas.”

Similarly, the report said that security service personnel, including police, military, and State Security Service (SSS) officers, regularly tortured, beat, and abused demonstrators, criminal suspects, detainees, and convicted prisoners. “Police mistreated civilians to extort money. The law prohibits the introduction into trials of evidence and confessions obtained through torture; however, police often used torture to extract confessions.”

The loudest and most damaging comment in the report is to be found in three words: “at/by year’s end,” in the sense of futility and the Nigerian government’s penchant for long, drawn-out, inconclusive activity, such as prosecution or investigation, during 2011.

Examples:

The Code of Conduct Tribunal commenced the trial of former governor of Lagos State Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu...There was no decision in the case by year’s end;


In October the EFCC arrested four former governors...Ogun governor Otunba Gbenga Daniel, former Oyo governor Chief Adebayo Alao-Akala, former Nasarawa governor Alhaji Aliyu Akwe Doma, and former Gombe governor Muhammed Danjuma Goje. Their trials began in December and continued at year’s end.


In May 2010 authorities arraigned former PDP national chairman Vincent Ogbulafor on 17 criminal counts of corruption and money laundering in the amount of 2.3 billion naira ($14 million). Ogbulafor filed a petition to dismiss the charges. There were no new developments in the case by year’s end.

In August 2010 Attorney General Mohammed Adoke announced that the government could not authenticate the Pius Okigbo Panel report on former military president and General Ibrahim Babangida, which charged that Babangida mismanaged 12.4 billion naira ($76 million) during his administration. The civil society group Socio-Economic Rights and Accountability Project (SERAP) accused the attorney general of a cover-up. A federal high court was scheduled to announce a ruling on July 28, but did not do so by year’s end.

Civil society groups introduced a number of cases at the national and state level to test the FOIA during the year. For example, in September the SERAP brought a case against the Oyo State government after being denied access to information on state funding for primary education. The case continued at year’s end.

On September 12, members of the police unit Operation Famou Tangbei (OFT) raided the home of Freddie Philip Ockiya in Yenagoa, Bayelsa State. Members of the OFT arrested Ockiya and took him to the local police station. His family searched for him until September 21, when his body was discovered at the morgue. The family filed a suit against members of the police and government in a federal high court. The inspector general of police disbanded the OFT in late September, but authorities did not arrest any members of the OFT in connection with Ockiya’s death by year’s end.

In April 2010 the Maiduguri High Court found that in 2009 police detained and subsequently killed Baba Fagu, the father-in-law of then Boko Haram leader Muhammad Yusuf, following violent clashes between police and militant members of Boko Haram in four northern states in 2009. The court ordered the federal and state governments to pay 100 million naira ($617,000) as compensation to Fagu’s family. The Borno State government challenged the Maiduguri High Court’s decision and appealed the judgment. At year’s end the case remained in the Court of Appeals in Jos, Plateau State.

In 2009 soldiers arrested Muhammad Yusuf. Credible media reports claimed that police executed Yusuf, whose bruised body subsequently was seen at state police headquarters with multiple bullet wounds. While police initially admitted killing Yusuf in custody, they subsequently claimed he died while trying to escape.

Buji Fai, a former state government official suspected of funding Boko Haram, also reportedly died in custody along with Fagu. Later that year, then president Yar’Adua pledged to conduct a full investigation of the Boko Haram uprising, including the circumstances surrounding Yusuf’s death, but authorities had not publicly released the results of the investigation by year’s end. On July 19, five police officers were arraigned in the federal high court in Abuja for the murder of Yusuf. The court granted bail to four of the officers, while one remained in custody. The case continued at year’s end.

A panel established by Plateau State to investigate the killings of approximately 700 civilians by security forces in the Jos North local government area in 2008 attributed the violence to provocation by religious leaders as well as violence by political parties and local government officials. The panel’s full report, released in April 2010, linked persons wearing uniforms to impersonate police with many of the killings; the report did not find definitive evidence of police or military involvement in extrajudicial killings. By year’s end authorities had neither charged nor punished anyone for the killings. In February 2010 President Jonathan called for a second investigative committee following an outbreak of violence earlier in the year. In September 2010 this body, known as the “Lar Committee,” submitted its recommendations... However, the committee’s recommendations had yet to be implemented, and neither the federal nor the Plateau State government set up truth and reconciliation committees by year’s end.

Police use of excessive force, including live ammunition, to disperse demonstrators resulted in numerous killings during the year. For example, on February 11, Ekiti police reportedly shot and killed five persons protesting the announcement of the relocation of a federal university to Oye-Ekiti that the state governor previously had promised would be located in the Ado-Ekiti community. Authorities had neither charged nor punished anyone for the killings by year’s end.

On August 14, police in Anambra State reportedly shot five persons at a roadblock after they would not pay a bribe of 20 naira ($0.13). One of the passengers reportedly died at the scene, while the other four were rushed to a hospital, where they were pronounced dead. Eyewitnesses stated that the driver claimed to already have paid 20 naira but could not produce a receipt that the policeman demanded. When the driver attempted to leave, the police opened fire. A police representative confirmed that one person was killed and three were rushed to the hospital. There were no developments in the case by year’s end.

For example, on October 16, police reportedly shot and killed Victor Emmanuel in Bayesla State after he criticized the police for extorting money from passing motorists on the road from his church. On October 28, police officials announced that the accused officers received an “orderly room trial” that could lead to dismissal or prosecution; however, the case remained pending at year’s end.
Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by Gbawe: 11:40pm On Oct 01, 2012
Jeboy: @Gbawe

I used to respect you before but the way you are attempting to be blind to d truth just because you want to call a dog a bad name. Its not fair. I remembered the TI rating improvement was the first post I created in Nairaland and people did not bother to comment because it was good news. Now you prefer to escalate evil because it will boost your ego. You want TI to give you rating for 2012 year when we have not finished 3rd Quarter of 2012. The TI rating with anti-corruption improvement we re talking about is for 2011. He might have mistaken dis years anti-corruption work for last years landmark improvement for TI rating but dat does not remove the fact that it so improved while he is charge. Gbawe and Co would have been happy if the indicators were pointing d country in bad light. You guys don't behave like progressives at all. Is that how people scan through Fashola govt to look for loopholes? This cheap black mail won't take you guys anywhere. Criticize and be a worthy opposition
for the sake of progress and not blackmail. If there's anything d rating has done, it has proved most of your claims that corruption heightens in GEJ era or GEJ also influenced their 2011 report. Una no dey try at all thinking you re doing GEJ disservice but not knowing you re killing d image of dis country. I bow for una oh

Did your President lie or not? Simple. He claimed achievements that are simply not true or corroborated by anyone. If many Nigerians don't suffer from 'Stockholm syndrome' then that development should worry us immensely.

2 Likes

Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by Jeboy(m): 11:50pm On Oct 01, 2012
Below is d link I of the TI rating new post on Naiaraland but as usual because people are not concern about gud news, it was scanty. Maybe if we have commented and analysed it as an issue who would have been inform here. Why do we like to celebrate bad news?


www.nairaland.com/1048176/fg-anti-corruption-initiative-finally-paying

1 Like

Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by sindyko(m): 11:52pm On Oct 01, 2012
He's an extremist who's try to praise his administration, trying to mounted cumbersome lies which his govt hasn't got to d dvlopment. Propaganda jst to promot is govt, in dis contemporary where no secret is hidden(PRESIDENT) liar. Though lies and corrupt can never b extracted out of our blood, however it was transmited 4rm one generation to other but degenerating. A canker disease (mean) blood wil always tell.
Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by Blueboy0402: 12:03am On Oct 02, 2012
@ Poster, what is the meaning of this? Is this the first time GEJ is telling lies? Is GEJ the only politician that has ever lied? Though I'm not holding brief for GEJ but can you mention one politician that has never lied? Please enjoy the annivasery and stop all this rubbish.
Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by dayokanu(m): 12:04am On Oct 02, 2012
Jeboy: Below is d link I of the TI rating new post on Naiaraland but as usual because people are not concern about gud news, it was scanty. Maybe if we have commented and analysed it as an issue who would have been inform here. Why do we like to celebrate bad news?


www.nairaland.com/1048176/fg-anti-corruption-initiative-finally-paying

Did our ranking from Transparency international Improve under Jonathan?

Simple question

1 Like

Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by lekanwj(m): 12:14am On Oct 02, 2012
I am not surprised at all. This man is substandard
Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by Jeboy(m): 12:14am On Oct 02, 2012
Ok let's continue to celebrate bad news. Wether u like it or not if GEJ and his family members are applying for visas frm foreign embassies, they will give dem 1st class priority even after been in govt. but na me and you and our children will be finding it difficult to get common dubai visas. Then you will know you re really doing urself and ur children disservice and not GEJ. For your info, he won't alwayz be there. He took over frm some1 and somebody else will take over frm him.
Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by lekanwj(m): 12:16am On Oct 02, 2012
dayokanu:

Did our ranking from Transparency international Improve under Jonathan?

Simple question

Obviously not
Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by Jeboy(m): 12:20am On Oct 02, 2012
@ Dayokanu

Read d full article below and find for yourself d answers to d question you asked. Last time I checked on history GEJ was d president in year 2011 abi na Yar Adua?



The survey on global corruption perceptions for 2011 versus 2001 showed that the third best improvement in the world was in Nigeria, with its score improving by 1.5 points. In the scoring, Nigeria follows the United States of America, which scored 2 points, while Bangladesh scored the highest by 2.3 points.

Also in the survey, the corruption perception score showed that Nigeria displaced Zambia, Mauritius, Uganda, Cameroon, Ghana, Kenya, Botswana, Senegal, Cote d’Ivore, Malawi, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Egypt, Namibia, and Tunisia.

Barely one year ago, the Co-ordinating Minister for the Economy and Minister of Finance, Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, had vowed to tackle corruption in the country, saying the move would help the ministry to effectively deliver on its mandate.

Okonjo-Iweala was appointed last year by President Goodluck Jonathan to restore some order to Nigeria’s public finance. A former World Bank managing director, she is battling to reform one of the world’s most corrupt nations, without support from the shadowy “godfathers” who wield power from behind the scenes.

Nigeria scored higher than countries like Poland, South Korea, Indonesia, Japan, Belgium, Romania, Latvia, Bolivia, Estonia, Slovenia, Germany, Turkey, Hong Kong, the Czech Republic, Switzerland, India, Norway, Azerbaijani, Ecuador, Australia, France, Sweden, Costa Rica, Slovakia, Vietnam, and Kenya.

Other countries Nigeria scored higher than are Taiwan, Ukraine, Thailand, Pakistan, Russia, China, Croatia, Nicaragua, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Ireland, Kazakhstan, Austria, Singapore, Lithuania, Denmark, Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador, Luxembourg, Portugal, Moldova, Brazil, Canada, the Philippines, Chile, Columbia, Jordan, Panama, Finland, Argentina, the Dominican Republic, the United Kingdom, Uruguay, Bulgaria, Malaysia, Peru, Mexico, Hungary, Spain, Greece, Venezuela, Iceland, Uzbekistan, Italy, Israel, and Trinidad and Tobago.

The survey further showed that nine Sub-Sahara Africa (SSA) countries have seen improving scores against five SSA countries that saw a decline (Namibia and South Africa) from high scores previously.

Two North African countries saw a big decline – and that may have contributed to the regime change which saw autocrats deposed in those countries. “The middle class in Tunisia was particularly incensed by the corruption in their country,” said Charlie Robertson, Managing Director, Global Chief Economist, Renaissance Capital.

1 Like

Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by Nobody: 12:57am On Oct 02, 2012
taharqa:

Obama is presently battling the 'lies' he was said to have said about what he knew about the people who carried out the Libyan Embassy attacks(its a hot topic in America presently and one that might bear on the elections though Romney himself is unchallenged in the kind and number of 'lies' and gaffs he apparently have told )

Ummm, dude, in which America is this "Hot Topic" you just told us about happening?
Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by Faheedat: 1:57am On Oct 02, 2012
Great people Great country,it is not easy all over the world and even THE RICH ALSO CRY
GOD BLESS NIGERIA
Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by taharqa: 2:19am On Oct 02, 2012
Gbawe:

It is either you are too intellectually lazy to seach for knowledge or you are engaged in a ploy to deceive others you assume are too gullible to use google. Read below to see the views of the USA about GEJ's Government.


http://saharareporters.com/news-page/us-government-dismisses-nigeria%E2%80%99s-war-against-corruption-hot-air


First, do not reference Sahara Reporters to me if you want to credible argue any points with me- a hold their reports with the tiniest pint of salt.

On the Us Report you were refering to, I think the comment below I made yesterday's morning in another thread will suffice to show my reaction to the report and the issue of corruption in Nigeria:

So that am clear, esp as i HATE and distest Corruption in any form : t[b]here is still substantial corruption in 9ja, there should be no doubt about that. It cuts across all arms of govt( executive, legislature, and very unfortunately albeit in lesser form, Judiciary), all tiers of govt(FG, States and LG), civil service and MDGs, NGOs, schools, professional bodies, unfortunately religious bodies, general society including more than half of the pthe govt has to do more to tackle it; i believe that GEJ has to provide more leadership to fight more of the corruption we see teeps viewing dis thread presently( even many of d people who have been shouting their azzes out on this thread).[/b] And while i note d tiny improvements on d FG's side, there is not a single doubt in my mind that we are still in a bad situation and that oday and i think he could have done more.

But excessively(obsessively) blaming GEJ would not do any good in long run, it wud only give some frivolous ppl some 'feel good-i-caused-my-president ' momentary 'high' and then would wear off. But serious minded ppl ought to think deep: i have been shouting here that we should put some pressure on d CJN to name d Special Judges for Corruption and Terroism she has promised since she became CJN about 3months ago. That is the most critical thing that can presently be done to tackle corruptn in dis country, any other thing would just be cosmetic. The President, the NBA, Civil Society groups, political parties and any one who matters, have urged her(as they did her predecessors) to name d judges, still no show- what the hell is stopping her to name these judges 4 God's sake(caution: as we put pressure on her and d judiciary, lets respect d sensitive position and institution she heads and not do what we have come to do very well- curse away)
.... by d way, i believe that GEJ can do his PART to deal with this corruption issue, even though i also strongly believe that we ALL have to be constructively engaged, play our own part and of course continue to put both him and his govt on its toes as regards this fight, cos it is a Systemic thing that needs all hands on board esp as it usually fights back. GEJ however needs to provide Leadership( more leadership) in this fight. I believe in the possibility of that leadership considering what he has done with Elections in 9ja( something that many of us previously thought was hopeless)

https://www.nairaland.com/1062309/worshippers-mock-jonathan-church-service/5#12382988


The US report emphasizes two things in my view: 1st, it asserts that there were still substantial levels of corruption in all levels, tiers of govt and society; and just as I had emphasized in the bolded part of my comment above corruption is widespread in every strata of society and govt(including many of the peeps viewing this thread and of course many of you guys criticizing)- it would be silly that any one would even attempt to deny that and shows the level of work that needs doing going forward. The President didnt deny that. The Report didnt seem to specifically suggest however that corruption increase during GEJ time( if am wrong feel free to correct); and the point I previously made about the Americans and other International bodies withdrawing from Yar'adua's 'War against Corruption' and only re-engaging when GEJ took over and made some changes, stands.
http://ngmix.net/lib/vendor/web/articles/5/26.html

2nd, and more importantly in my view is that fact that the Report apparently fingered the JUDICIARY and the Judicial Processes as the greatest reason why the Anti-corruption effort of govt has not gone far, esp as regards the very slow process of concluding corruption case( which I also emphasized im my comment- 2nd bolded part). This is EXTREMELY key. That report even mentioned the case of your master, Tinubu( and let me add El Rufai) Two two are some of the most virulent critic and opponent of the present govt, yet both of their cases have almost stalled in the courts even after about 3 years of adjudication, ditto other cases that have been in court since. Why? Should Tinubu and El Rufai corruption cases, even if not others been expeditiously determined? Some persons keep mentioned OBJ penchant for arresting certain persons and taking them to court and eve eventually obtaining 'judgements' against them, without telling people that any such few 'convictions' are PLEA BARGAINS in which the culprits effectively goes scot-free. If GEJ wants to play to the gallery he can arrest all the 'arrestables' and still there will be little or no convictions from our courts except Plea bargaining is also used.

So what is the problem? It is our very slow and so easily manipulative Judicial system and process, and there is very LITTLE GEJ can really do in this respect except to urge the CJN to appoint Special Judges that would concentrate on corruption cases so that many of the many adjuctions that Lawyers have used to delay corruption cases to virtual perpetuity added to the slow process itself will abate, and cases would be decided under a year. THIS IS THE MOST CRITICAL THING NEEDED IN OUR WAR AGAINST CORRUPTION NOOOWWWW . GEJ, the NBA, and other CSOs have urged the CJN to name these Judges, she had agreed still she has not fulfilled the promise. You may blame GEJ for now till forever( and Yes there are still much GEJ can and should do) but the aspect of the Judicial process is the most important. How many of the people making a lot of these noise abut the fight against corruption have remembered to urge her to named the judges?

This govt is the most OPEN govt in Nigeria's history( signing of the FOI bill that other presidents refused to sign nor push; opening up the budget processes etc); we should use the opportunity to keep the govt on its heels but should not cos we want to 'get' at GEJ emphasize all our attention on him leaving other arms and tiers of govt. For instance when last did any of us remember we had Governors and LGs in this country?( I swear the govs who were the butt of our previous attention would be laughing their azzes out and thanking their stars that we have apparently 'forgotten' then).

PS: I believe that GEJ on moral grounds should declare his assets PUBLICLY and cause the ministers to do so(even if I think that this isnt the most critical thing out there since Yar'adua did so and yet almost completely stalled the anti-corruption war- classic example of chasing shadows, no?)
Here are two things that GEJ did in the last week on this corruption issue that was reported yesterday and today. Again, why he needs to do more he needs our help.

http://premiumtimesng.com/news/102151-jonathan-commits-to-tough-un-anti-corruption-terrorism-reforms.html

http://www.punchng.com/business/nigeria-is-winning-war-against-corruption-jonathan/
Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by rman: 2:50am On Oct 02, 2012
Jeboy: @ Dayokanu

Read d full article below and find for yourself d answers to d question you asked. Last time I checked on history GEJ was d president in year 2011 abi na Yar Adua?



The survey on global corruption perceptions for 2011 versus 2001 showed that the third best improvement in the world was in Nigeria, with its score improving by 1.5 points. In the scoring, Nigeria follows the United States of America, which scored 2 points, while Bangladesh scored the highest by 2.3 points.

Also in the survey, the corruption perception score showed that Nigeria displaced Zambia, Mauritius, Uganda, Cameroon, Ghana, Kenya, Botswana, Senegal, Cote d’Ivore, Malawi, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Egypt, Namibia, and Tunisia.

Barely one year ago, the Co-ordinating Minister for the Economy and Minister of Finance, Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala, had vowed to tackle corruption in the country, saying the move would help the ministry to effectively deliver on its mandate.

Okonjo-Iweala was appointed last year by President Goodluck Jonathan to restore some order to Nigeria’s public finance. A former World Bank managing director, she is battling to reform one of the world’s most corrupt nations, without support from the shadowy “godfathers” who wield power from behind the scenes.

Nigeria scored higher than countries like Poland, South Korea, Indonesia, Japan, Belgium, Romania, Latvia, Bolivia, Estonia, Slovenia, Germany, Turkey, Hong Kong, the Czech Republic, Switzerland, India, Norway, Azerbaijani, Ecuador, Australia, France, Sweden, Costa Rica, Slovakia, Vietnam, and Kenya.

Other countries Nigeria scored higher than are Taiwan, Ukraine, Thailand, Pakistan, Russia, China, Croatia, Nicaragua, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Ireland, Kazakhstan, Austria, Singapore, Lithuania, Denmark, Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador, Luxembourg, Portugal, Moldova, Brazil, Canada, the Philippines, Chile, Columbia, Jordan, Panama, Finland, Argentina, the Dominican Republic, the United Kingdom, Uruguay, Bulgaria, Malaysia, Peru, Mexico, Hungary, Spain, Greece, Venezuela, Iceland, Uzbekistan, Italy, Israel, and Trinidad and Tobago.

The survey further showed that nine Sub-Sahara Africa (SSA) countries have seen improving scores against five SSA countries that saw a decline (Namibia and South Africa) from high scores previously.

Two North African countries saw a big decline – and that may have contributed to the regime change which saw autocrats deposed in those countries. “The middle class in Tunisia was particularly incensed by the corruption in their country,” said Charlie Robertson, Managing Director, Global Chief Economist, Renaissance Capital.


2001 vs 2011 is ten years. GEJ shouldn't claim credit for that

2 Likes

Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by Nobody: 5:41am On Oct 02, 2012
GEJ lied.
How can he take credit for a 10 year period.?The same fellow who never misses an opportunity to remind us that his government inherited so many problems from previous administrations wants to use indices generated by the same people he tries so hard to disown.The fellow is plainly dishonest.
I'd be more interested in figures from 2010 when he was sworn in.
The results clearly show no improvement in terms of index (2.4) and a dip in ranking by 9 places from 134 to 143 over the year in question.It gets worse if you view the result from 2009 (Yar Adua)where we had an index rating of 2.5 and even from 2008 where our score was 2.7.
Where is the improvement under Goidluck's regime that he is claiming?
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AonYZs4MzlZbdERaRzgxaUcwYXVRZFpaR3ZrekREb2c&hl=en&authkey=CIretNoB
Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by airfinance(m): 6:04am On Oct 02, 2012
Igbo
Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by 001solar(m): 6:33am On Oct 02, 2012
segunjowo: GEJ is a g**t.I stopped believing in him one week after he'd assumed the office of the president after Yaradua's demise. The guy is a no brainer, because only a no brainer lies to the followers in a country he leads! It is quite unfortunate that Nigerians didn't realize this man can NEVER lead us to the promise land from the onset, hence the 'self'acclaimed 'massive vote' he got from the poll 2011. If, after all these lies and the level of poverty this land currently is, the man attempt to seek re-election come 2015 and you(not me) vote for him, then you are on a long thing.
I have said it before: our destiny lies in our hands. In our thumbs!
PDP has failed us both at the local level, state level, and at Federal level NIGERIAN make una wake up money wey dem gpo give u durin election no foit reach u for dat 4 yrs wey dem go spend for seat oooo make we al take our stand oooo
Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by micklplus(m): 6:40am On Oct 02, 2012
StarBoard: GEJ lied.
How can he take credit for a 10 year period.?The same fellow who never misses an opportunity to remind us that his government inherited so many problems from previous administrations wants to use indices generated by the same people he tries so hard to disown.The fellow is plainly dishonest.
I'd be more interested in figures from 2010 when he was sworn in.
The results clearly show no improvement in terms of index (2.4) and a dip in ranking by 9 places from 134 to 143 over the year in question.It gets worse if you view the result from 2009 (Yar Adua)where we had an index rating of 2.5 and even from 2008 where our score was 2.7.
Where is the improvement under Goidluck's regime that he is claiming?
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AonYZs4MzlZbdERaRzgxaUcwYXVRZFpaR3ZrekREb2c&hl=en&authkey=CIretNoB

Thank you
Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by texazzpete(m): 6:44am On Oct 02, 2012
Jeboy: @Gbawe

I used to respect you before but the way you are attempting to be blind to d truth just because you want to call a dog a bad name. Its not fair. I remembered the TI rating improvement was the first post I created in Nairaland and people did not bother to comment because it was good news. Now you prefer to escalate evil because it will boost your ego. You want TI to give you rating for 2012 year when we have not finished 3rd Quarter of 2012. The TI rating with anti-corruption improvement we re talking about is for 2011. He might have mistaken dis years anti-corruption work for last years landmark improvement for TI rating but dat does not remove the fact that it so improved while he is charge. Gbawe and Co would have been happy if the indicators were pointing d country in bad light. You guys don't behave like progressives at all. Is that how people scan through Fashola govt to look for loopholes? This cheap black mail won't take you guys anywhere. Criticize and be a worthy opposition
for the sake of progress and not blackmail. If there's anything d rating has done, it has proved most of your claims that corruption heightens in GEJ era or GEJ also influenced their 2011 report. Una no dey try at all thinking you re doing GEJ disservice but not knowing you re killing d image of dis country. I bow for una oh

I think you have mental problems.

Transparency international's index shows Nigeria worsening between 2010 to 2011 under GEJ

The article you've been spamming shows Nigeria's corruption perception improving between 2001 and 2011. Those 10 years include OBJ, Yar'Adua and now GEJ. How can you attribute any of the good news to GEJ when we've seen Nigeria retrogressing in the last year according to TI's index?

Anyone with a brain knows that the 2001 - 2011 net improvement comes from a perception of improved anti-corruption focus under the tenure of Nuhu Ribadu as EFCC boss.
Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by boladez(m): 6:46am On Oct 02, 2012
I was so critical of this President until his comment on the Fuel subsidy removal protests. Clearly the guy has good intentions but he has surrounded himself with thieves, political jobbers, rogues, liars and human beings without principles or any form of values. People who can eat and steal from anybody and everybody.

Jonathan has good intentions but ambitious... he has NO capacity to run a complex nation like Nigeria. He is without vision, intellectually lazy and does not have the experience to manage resources and people.
Based on his thirst for power, He is being used unwittingly by some cunning (not smart) people and he is not aware. He has been cut off from reality. A clear testimony was the new presidential security guards he commissioned on Monday. If you look at the history of leaders who are ambitious and surround themselves with sycophants - they beef up their own security and try to build an empire around themselves. See Abacha, Saddam, Hitler. They end up being chased by phantom enemies and they eventually go into self destruct mode.

Jona is unfortunately on the way to self destruction and I hope he comes to realisation early enough so that he can be saved.

His speech did not attack Nigerians as ALL his previous speeches to the nation. All the achievements he laid claims to are not measurable or quantifiable other than the improvement in power. (Which again may be argued to obe the effects of the investments by the Obj government). He took over from Yaraslow in FEB 2010 and struggles to showcase his achievements 2 years and 7 months after! what a shame on this nation.

The truth is either this guy changes his entire cabinet and special assistants or he will be impeached or plunge this country into anarchy. If anyone know him please tell him he has lost touch with reality and some of us feel sorry for him.

1 Like

Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by Omen100(m): 6:48am On Oct 02, 2012
oradee: is Nairaland loosing sponsors? ive noticed that its site doesnt have as much adverts as it used to from them top notch companies...hope all is well?!?


How come you just noticed it now? She started losing it the very day seun posted " I, President jonathan ebele goodluck will be the best president Nigeria will ever had" & there is a saying that said that, the best are always reserved for the later, now because of jonathan, seun is broke.
Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by debbydominic(f): 6:52am On Oct 02, 2012
Nigeria we hail thee!
Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by misreal(m): 7:04am On Oct 02, 2012
kurga: Fighting corruption is he? He should start with reducing how much is allocated to him in the budget. A staggering N1B for just feeding. So much for fighting corruption
i dnt undastand u sef.do u want ur president to be living like slave
Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by ignis: 7:14am On Oct 02, 2012
Law prince: I wonder where Agent Beef and co are hiding. Let them come and defend this glaring lie.
This is called white lie, it dont av to be defended
Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by misreal(m): 7:16am On Oct 02, 2012
moderatorr: Haters will always find something.
If they cant, they will go out of their way to make it.

Goodluck is the president, Nigeria is visibly getting better.
Deal with both. Or die trying smiley
my brother no be small tin oh wink
Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by Gbawe: 7:18am On Oct 02, 2012
texazzpete:

I think you have mental problems.

Transparency international's index shows Nigeria worsening between 2010 to 2011 under GEJ

The article you've been spamming shows Nigeria's corruption perception improving between 2001 and 2011. Those 10 years include OBJ, Yar'Adua and now GEJ. How can you attribute any of the good news to GEJ when we've seen Nigeria retrogressing in the last year according to TI's index?

Anyone with a brain knows that the 2001 - 2011 net improvement comes from a perception of improved anti-corruption focus under the tenure of Nuhu Ribadu as EFCC boss.


This is why I said earlier that one must worry about the 'Stockholm syndrome' many Nigerians suffer from that prevents them accepting the truth or even using logical thinking to see what is obvious. How can GEJ, regarding corruption, be judged by any period outside when he has been substantive President i.e February 2010 till now which is almost 3 years?

Dishonest, incompetent, failing and desperate leaders do this throughout the world. When they have no genuine achievements to display, they attempt to invent some, claim achievement that do not exist at all or actually lie that there is improvement when everyone can tell that things are worse. Corruption now walks around with total impunity in Nigeria. Under GEJ's watch, fuel subsidy payment , with a big element of scam, became incredibly swollen and the highest it has ever been !!!! Things like that just show that some Nigerians like to deceive themselves.
Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by tylarry(f): 7:23am On Oct 02, 2012
When are we going to Learn to appreciate our president?
Re: Jonathan Lied In Independence Anniversary Broadcast. by Stallion77(f): 7:29am On Oct 02, 2012
Amazes me how oppositions/critics would go any length to affect dumb people's perception... He told the truth. GEJ told the truth.
http://www.naijapundit.com/news/president-jonathan-told-the-truth-on-nigeria-s-corruption-rating

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (Reply)

"Get Rid Of Executive Grasscutters": #IStandWithNASS Banner / Ekiti: No Plans To Dump APC, We Will Teach Them Lessons - Bamidele, Bamisile / ’Emilokan’: Idris Wase Declares For House Of Reps Speakership

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 116
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.