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An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by Dway1: 7:30pm On Oct 09, 2012
By Remi Oyeyemi

Chinua Achebe as literary icon has achieved a lot in his life time. He is a celebrated literary giant. But as a giant who has spent much time on the mother planet, he seems to be getting tired. This is a normal process of nature from which none of us would be absolved. We all begin to die at birth.
When old age sets in, a lot of other things also serve as its concomitants. These would include physical deterioration as well as mental exhaustion that would be referred to as senility in other parlances. For a man like Chinua Achebe who has been repeatedly adored and praised for his literary efforts, this is a serious challenge especially when the need to remain relevant is still strong.
Chinua Achebe in his younger days, was a thorough intellectual through and through. This has been evident in many of his works which have brought him accolades from far and wide. But it seems he is unable to live up to the content and character of an intellectual in recent days, a sign, in one’s view, of the impact of old age on his once virile mind.
Not to glorify this challenge on the part of the revered Achebe, one would not reproduce verbatim, his assertion in his latest book titled ''There Was A Country'' that Chief Obafemi Awolowo, the Avatar, was responsible for the genocide that the Igbo suffered during the civil war. But the issue here is that Achebe has decided to use half facts to achieve a malicious end against Chief Awolowo.
Before going forward on this, it is pertinent to remember that when Chief Awolowo died in 1987, Achebe ripped him virulently in manner that caught his (Achebe’s) fancy and boosted his own ego. The view he expressed about Awo then would also not be dignified here. But this writer is willing to overlook that because it was an opinion expressed. Everyone is entitled to his own view or opinion on anything or anyone for that matter.
The reason his recent ranting would not be allowed to go unchallenged is because he has a reputation as a literary giant. He has received accolades as an intellectual. As an intellectual, you allow facts to lead you. In this case, Achebe has not lived up to expectation. He has allowed his alleged bitterness in other genres of his life turned him into a blind bully visiting devastating anger at anything on sight.
In old age, Achebe has become a jaundiced intellectual. His old age intellect has failed to endow him with perspicacity. His soul seems ridden with bitterness engendered by self importance that he has psyched himself to appropriate in the absence of recognition that he has sought all his life and has never got – the Nobel Prize in Literature. But one does not think all hope is lost for him and he does not need to gutterize himself before the glorious day comes.
It is however evident that his ability to apply his intellect to the historical affairs of Nigeria is seriously compromised. His clueless and moronic attack on Chief Obafemi Awolowo is a manifestation of compounded frustration. And this is a serious dent on his intellectual reputation.
A serious dent to his claim as an intellectual because as someone argued, he has 45 years to look at the whole picture, get the whole story and assemble all the facts to be able to make appropriate conclusions. He could still then express his views about the situation and the personalities involved. Achebe would have done himself a great favour and protected his hard earned reputation if he had included in his book that Chief Obafemi Awolowo offered the then Head of State of Biafra, Colonel Emeka Odumegwu Ojukwu willingness to get food to the people of Biafra if he (Ojukwu) would create a corridor through which this one would be done. But because Ojukwu wanted the food for the soldiers first and foremost, he did not agree. Ojukwu sacrificed his people as a means to achieving upper hand in the propaganda war. But this was a strategy that failed him on the war.
But Achebe, the “intellectual,” would not be able to paint the Great Awo the way he really wanted if he had included that information in his book. Doing so would undermine the accusation of Awo as the man responsible for the starvation of his Igbo people. This is because this would have shifted the debate as to why Emeka Ojukwu would rather allow his people to die of hunger when food was readily made available to them by the Federal side. What was required of him was just the creation of a corridor. Serving half truths is antithetical to intellectualism.
Apart from Achebe putting out half truths as far as this action is concerned, it is amazing and tantamount to intellectual dishonesty for him to incorrigibly wanting to hold Obafemi Awolowo alone responsible for the Federal Government decisions under Colonel Yakubu Gowon during those years and obviously unwilling to hold Chief Alex Ekweme equally responsible for the crimes committed against Nigerians during the Shehu Shagari era! This is not just intellectual dishonesty on the part of the “intellectual” Achebe, it is hypocrisy of the highest order.
One of the reasons why this writer has been unable to accept General Mohammed Buhari as a fair-minded person is because he (Buhari) locked up Alex Ekweme in Kirikiri Maximum Prisons and put Shagari in a Guest House when Shagari was the one in charge. Shagari was the President and Chief Ekweme was just his Vice. It means Achebe, the “intellectual” would have done the same thing to Ekweme and hold him responsible for all the crimes of the Second Republic while allowing Shagari to walk free? It is like holding Vice President Abubakar Atiku solely responsible for all the malaise of Baba Iyabo’s years as the President.
Achebe, as an “intellectual,” has an obligation to the society to further the course and cause of truth as well as enlightenment. In this endeavour, he has obviously failed. Rather, he has lent undue credibility to falsehood. He has promoted unwarranted malice against another human being by using half information and uncompleted facts.
Achebe has some undisclosed grudges against Awolowo. But that is allowed because he is human just as Awolowo is human too. He is free to grudge anyone that catches his fancy. But he is not allowed to maul facts and engage in deliberate obfuscation of truth. This is more especially so because he lays claim, and justifiably too, to being an intellectual.
This bitterness against Awo is getting him to the point where he is now hurting himself and his reputation as an intellectual. It seems he would need some therapy to achieve some emotional balance and become more level-headed and even-handed in the discharge of his duties to himself, the academic community, his Igbo people and the entire world which he so badly craves as his stage.
Anything done to hurt the course and cause of truth is an ignoble act. If carpenters and bricklayers are misguided because of their lack of access to information, this ought not to be the forte of someone described as intellectual. He has a duty to lay all the facts out there and then express his view or opinions just as any other subjective individual will do.
Achebe, because of his malice against Awo, lost the chance of helping others to seeing his view by failing to put out all the facts of the situation. He allowed his case to be undermined by being intellectually dishonest and hypocritical. He undermined his reputation and his legacy, because on his death bed, others will come to pass judgment on him regarding this folly among others.

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Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by ACM10: 8:06pm On Oct 09, 2012
The Biafra War and Why The
Truth Was Blocked From
Nigerians
"Federal troops, killed, or stood by while
mobs killed, more than 5000 Ibos in Warri,
Sapele, Agbor, "New York Times, 10th
January, 1968.
"It’s (mass starvation) is a legitimate aspect
of war, " Anthony Enahoro, Nigerian
Commissioner for Information at a press
conference in (New York, July 1968)
"Starvation is a legitimate weapon of war,
and we have every intention of using it
against the rebels, "Mr Alison Ayida, Head of
Nigerian Delegation, Niamey Peace Talks,
Republic of Niger, July 1968) "
The Igbos must be considerably reduced in
number" (Lagos Policeman quoted in New
York Review, 21 December, 1967)
''One word now describes the policy of the
Nigerian military government towards
secessionist Biafra: genocide. It is ugly and
extreme but it is the only word which fits
Nigeria's decision to stop the International
Committee of the red Cross, and other relief
agencies, from flying food to Biafra"
Washington Post (editorial) July 2, 1969).
''In some areas outside the East, Igbos
were killed by local people with at least the
acquiescence of the federal forces, 1000
Igbo civilians perished in Benin in this
way"- (Max Edward - Reporter on the
ground-New York Review, 21 December
1967).
''After federal forces take over of Benin,
troops killed about 500 Igbo civilians after
a house-to-house search with the aid of
willing locals" (Washington Morning Post,
27 September, 1967).
"The greatest single massacre occurred in
the Igbo town of Asaba where 700 Igbo
male were lined up and shot as terrified
women/children were forced to watch"
(London Observer, 21 January, 1968)
"Federal troops, killed, or stood by while
mobs killed, more than 5000 Ibos in Wari,
Sapele, Agbor" (New York Times, 10th
January, 1968).
"There has been genocide on the occasion
of the 1966 massacres, the region between
the towns of Benin and Asaba where only
widows and orphans remain, federal
troops having, for unknown reasons,
massacred all the men" - (Paris Le Monde,
5th April, 1968).
"In Calabar, federal forces shot at least
1000 and perhaps 2000 Igbos, most of
them civilians" (New York Times, 18th
January, 1968).
"Bestialities and indignities of all kinds
were visited on Biafrans in 1966. In Ikeja
Barracks (Western Nigeria) Biafrans were
forcibly fed on a mixture of human urine
and faeces. In Northern Nigeria numerous
Biafran house-wives and nursing mothers
were violated before their husbands and
children. Young girls were abducted from
their homes, working places and schools
and forced into intimate intercourse with
sick, demented and leprous men'' (Mr. Eric
Spiff (German War correspondence
Eyewitness, 1967).
"There has been genocide, for example on
the occasion of the 1966 massacres , Two
areas have suffered badly [from the
fighting]. Firstly the region between the
towns of Benin and Asaba where only
widows and orphans remain, Federal
troops having for unknown reasons
massacred all the men.
According to eyewitnesses of that
massacre the Nigerian commander ordered
the execution of every Ibo male over the
age of ten years" (Monsignor Georges, sent
down on a fact-finding mission by His
holiness the Pope reporting his finding in
Vatican Rome, Le Monde, French Evening
newspaper, April 5, 1968).
''650 refugee camps, contained about
700,000 haggard bundles of human
flotsam waiting hopelessly for a meal,
outside the camps, was the reminder of an
estimated four and a half to five million
displaced persons, the Kwashiokor scourge,
a million and half children, suffer(ed) from
it during January; that put the forecast
death toll at another 300,000 children, More
than the pogroms of 1966, more than the
war casualties, more than the terror
bombings, it was the experience of
watching helplessly their children waste
away and die that gave birth to, a deep and
unrelenting loathing. It is a feeling that will
one day reap a bitter harvest unless,
" (Frederick Forsyth, British writer January
21st 1969) ",
I saw several hundred of Zombie-like
creatures - men, women and children, lying,
sitting or squatting in the midst of others
who were dead. The living ones were
completely reduced to skeletons and could
not talk. I was seeing for the first time,
kwashiorkor, Frankly, I took fright, I believe
that any foreign troops from anywhere in
the world occupying Ikot Ekpene or any
other town in Biafra would have shown
much more sympathy, "(Gen. Alex Madiebo,
Ikot Ekpene, July 1968)
"One word now describes the policy of the
Nigerian military government towards
Biafra:- genocide. It is ugly and extreme
but it is the only word which fits Nigeria's
decision to stop the International
Committee of the red Cross, and other relief
agencies, from flying food to Biafra". The
Nazis had ressurrected just here as
Nigerian forces, Washington Post (editorial)
July 2, 1969
"The loss of life from starvation continues
at more than 10,000 persons per day -
over 1,000,000 lives in recent months.
Without emergency measures now, the
number will climb to 25,000 per day within
a month - and some 2,000,000 deaths by
the end of the year. The new year will only
bring greater disaster to a people caught in
the passion of fratricidal war, we can't
allow this to continue or those responsible
to go free" Senator Kennedy appeals to
Americans - Sunday, November 17, 1968 ",
I want to see no Red Cross, no Caritas, no
World Council of Churches, no Pope, no
missionary and no UN delegation. I want to
prevent even one Ibo from having even
one piece to eat before their capitulation.
We shoot at everything that moves and
when our troops march into the centre of
Ibo territory, we shoot at everything even
at things that do not move," (Benjamin
Adekunle, Commander, 3rd Marine
Commando Division, Nigerian Army to
French radio reporter).
The war aim and (final) solution properly
speaking of the entire problem, is to
discriminate against the Igbos and in their
own interest. Such discrimination would
include above all the detachment of those
oil-rich territories in the Eastern Region, in
addition, the Igbos' freedom of movement
would be restricted, to prevent their
renewed penetration into other parts,
leaving any access to the sea to the Igbos,
is quite out of the question, "(Federal
Nigerian Minister speaking to E. C.
Schwarzenback, Swiss Review of Africa,
February 1968).
"Let us go and crush them. We will pillage
their property, violation their womenfolk,
kill off their menfolk and leave them
uselessly weeping. We will complete the
pogrom of 1966" (The theme song of
Radio Kaduna, government-controlled,
1967-1970).
"Unfortunately this [Gowon's]
enlightenment at the top level does not
penetrate very deep: a Lagos police officer
was quoted last month as saying that the
Igbos must be considerably reduced in
number" Dr Conor cruise O'Bien , 21
December 1967 New York Review.
"Myself and The same UNICEF
representatives went on to convey
something of what lay behind this
intransigence: "Among the large majority
hailing from that tribe who are most vocal
in inciting the complete extermination of
the Igbos, I often heard remarks that all
Nigeria's ills will be cured once the Igbos
has been extaminated from the human
map , " Dr Conor Cruise O'Bien (21
December, 1967, New York Review). -
Onyema Uche.(Washington, Distric of
Columbia), USA.

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Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by ACM10: 8:19pm On Oct 09, 2012
Silly intellectual response! The article is filled with the same old, tired and mindless fairytales. I challenge the article writer to produce evidence that Ojukwu prevented aid and relief materials from reaching the needy. Nigerian leadership, military and diplomats were quoted justifying their starvation policy. Now they are saying that it was Ojukwu who facilitated the starvation. Adekunle was quoted threatening the Aid agencies. Awolowo was quoted justifting the starvation policy. I wont be surprised if they cook another fairytale that civilians refused to accept food aid.

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Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by EkoIle1: 8:52pm On Oct 09, 2012
ACM10: Silly intellectual response! The article is filled with the same old, tired and mindless fairytales. I challenge the article writer to produce evidence that Ojukwu prevented aid and relief materials from reaching the needy. Nigerian leadership, military and diplomats were quoted justifying their starvation policy. Now they are saying that it was Ojukwu who facilitated the starvation. Adekunle was quoted threatening the Aid agencies. Awolowo was quoted justifting the starvation policy. I wont be surprised if they cook another fairytale that civilians refused to accept food aid.


Olodo son of disgruntled and hate filled ashebe.....



Here is your proof...fast forward to 2:22. Ojuku spoke after and he did not deny it..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSqhqP3U-t4&playnext=1&list=PL673224D81863E03C&feature=results_video


The clown said don't bring food for my people to eat unless you pay landing fee. It's even sad listening to the fool saying the fee was for currency change and some idiotic nonsense while his people are dying. What a scum bag...


Keep up the good work, I'm running off to Ivory coast.:- Ojukwu.

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Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by Awake9ja(m): 9:07pm On Oct 09, 2012
@Acm
any human bein wit conscience will be wit tears after reading your post on baifran war.i hope ibos learnt their lessons.

it keep me wondering why yorubas keep moving via destructive route. you dont remind a war victim how you decimated him.

even northerners does not recount the war to ibos only yorubas does it on daily bases.i hope the yorubas knew the seed they are sowing.

yes every war victim will remind himself about his war looses. ie: china. they keep talking about japanese invasion while japanese keep mute. that is the way.

but yorubas wit loud mouth speaks more than us the beltans who fought the war.

yorubas s learn before it is too late

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Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by Nobody: 9:13pm On Oct 09, 2012
intellectual response ko, tout response ni undecided
Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by Nobody: 9:14pm On Oct 09, 2012
Awake9ja: @Acm
any human bein wit conscience will be wit tears after reading your post on baifran war.i hope ibos learnt their lessons.

it keep me wondering why yorubas keep moving via destructive route. you dont remind a war victim how you decimated him.

even northerners does not recount the war to ibos only yorubas does it on daily bases.i hope the yorubas knew the seed they are sowing.

yes every war victim will remind himself about his war looses. ie: china. they keep talking about japanese invasion while japanese keep mute. that is the way.

but yorubas wit loud mouth speaks more than us the beltans who fought the war.

yorubas s learn before it is too late

i agree
Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by ACM10: 9:15pm On Oct 09, 2012
Eko Ile:

Olodo son of disgruntled and hate filled ashebe.....



Here is your proof...fast forward to 2:22. Ojuku spoke after and he did not deny it..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSqhqP3U-t4&playnext=1&list=PL673224D81863E03C&feature=results_video


The clown said don't bring food for my people to eat unless you pay landing fee. It's even sad listening to the fool saying the fee was for currency change and some idiotic nonsense while his people are dying. What a scum bag...


Keep up the good work, I'm running off to Ivory coast.:- Ojukwu.

Sorry to ask. Are you a clown in real life?
Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by Awake9ja(m): 9:19pm On Oct 09, 2012
eko ile pls becareful you are completely doing the yorubas a big hurt unknowingly.

you dont make jest of your victims else you will become one very soon. ask hitler

nl yorubas maybe few pple but wat may come tru ds nonsense you guys are posting might be too damaging to your tribe. pls lock your mouths on this war issue.

the yorubas did not fight the war alone. the ibos also complain about us and we keep mute pls be warn.

do you guys think that Achebe only write about awo in the said book. others involve are not challenging anytin. why you?

no possition is permanent wat if tins changes tomoro and you be on the mercy of ibos do u not tink how they respond. ask the british had they know future if they will ever fought america in the time past.

an advice from a neutral person

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Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by Nobody: 9:25pm On Oct 09, 2012
ACM10:

Sorry to ask. Are you a clown in real life?


seems yoruba have answers to every intellectual question asked by Igbo concerning ''Biafra'' Like the question u asked which was answered!!!!
Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by ACM10: 9:27pm On Oct 09, 2012
Eko Ile:

Olodo son of disgruntled and hate filled ashebe.....



Here is your proof...fast forward to 2:22. Ojuku spoke after and he did not deny it..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSqhqP3U-t4&playnext=1&list=PL673224D81863E03C&feature=results_video


The clown said don't bring food for my people to eat unless you pay landing fee. It's even sad listening to the fool saying the fee was for currency change and some idiotic nonsense while his people are dying. What a scum bag...


Keep up the good work, I'm running off to Ivory coast.:- Ojukwu.


I hate no one. I relate well with Yorubas in real life. I'm a pragmatist and a realist. I relate with my professional colleague based on their capability and not tribe. I've never allowed political consideration to colour my judgement. Meritocracy is my watchword! Unlike you who sees nothing good in Ndigbo. I have problem with people who turns history upside down. I'm only here to disabuse the minds of my fellow Ndigbo.

Finally, are you a clown in real life?
Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by Nobody: 9:29pm On Oct 09, 2012
Awake9ja: eko ile pls becareful you are completely doing the yorubas a big hurt unknowingly.

you dont make jest of your victims else you will become one very soon. ask hitler

nl yorubas maybe few pple but wat may come tru ds nonsense you guys are posting might be too damaging to your tribe. pls lock your mouths on this war issue.

the yorubas did not fight the war alone. the ibos also complain about us and we keep mute pls be warn.

do you guys think that Achebe only write about awo in the said book. others involve are not challenging anytin. why you?

no possition is permanent wat if tins changes tomoro and you be on the mercy of ibos do u not tink how they respond. ask the british had they know future if they will ever fought america in the time past.

an advice from a neutral person

guy you dey waste time with those people
wickedness runs in their veins
i believe they are the most wicked (though cowardly)tribe in naija
other players in the war may have fought out of a necessity, like gowon for instance, as head of state
yorubas fought without any provocation, except jealousy and envy and wickedness
that is why they have to invent a provocation, like the biafran march towards ore
they would rather die than admit that the march was friendly, hence commanded by one of their own sons

evil runs in their genes
sorry, but the cat is already out of the bag
Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by emiye(m): 9:35pm On Oct 09, 2012
Eko Ile:

Olodo son of disgruntled and hate filled ashebe.....



Here is your proof...fast forward to 2:22. Ojuku spoke after and he did not deny it..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSqhqP3U-t4&playnext=1&list=PL673224D81863E03C&feature=results_video


The clown said don't bring food for my people to eat unless you pay landing fee. It's even sad listening to the fool saying the fee was for currency change and some idiotic nonsense while his people are dying. What a scum bag...


Keep up the good work, I'm running off to Ivory coast.:- Ojukwu.


That video response from Ojukwu is shocking.

It is like a father telling health officials,hey!, pay me if you want to vaccinate my kids from polio.

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Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by Nobody: 9:37pm On Oct 09, 2012
Awake9ja: eko ile pls becareful you are completely doing the yorubas a big hurt unknowingly.

you dont make jest of your victims else you will become one very soon. ask hitler

nl yorubas maybe few pple but wat may come tru ds nonsense you guys are posting might be too damaging to your tribe. pls lock your mouths on this war issue.

the yorubas did not fight the war alone. the ibos also complain about us and we keep mute pls be warn.

do you guys think that Achebe only write about awo in the said book. others involve are not challenging anytin. why you?

no possition is permanent wat if tins changes tomoro and you be on the mercy of ibos do u not tink how they respond. ask the british had they know future if they will ever fought america in the time past.

an advice from a neutral person


agreed with U 100percent.......

If u were in yoruba's shoe.......u will do exactly the same......tis like somebody puting the blame for his death ''Unsuccesful/unrealised'' ambition on U not only that........''Genocide''


let the truth be told and blame shd be apportioned to all parties involved as far as Biafra is concerned to the extent to which the same wrong is committed......anything more usually cause this kind of uproar!!!
Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by ACM10: 9:38pm On Oct 09, 2012
Awake9ja: eko ile pls becareful you are completely doing the yorubas a big hurt unknowingly.

you dont make jest of your victims else you will become one very soon. ask hitler

nl yorubas maybe few pple but wat may come tru ds nonsense you guys are posting might be too damaging to your tribe. pls lock your mouths on this war issue.

the yorubas did not fight the war alone. the ibos also complain about us and we keep mute pls be warn.

do you guys think that Achebe only write about awo in the said book. others involve are not challenging anytin. why you?

no possition is permanent wat if tins changes tomoro and you be on the mercy of ibos do u not tink how they respond. ask the british had they know future if they will ever fought america in the time past.

an advice from a neutral person

cool
Nice comment! Ndigbo have moved on. Events of that era was very painful. But it is not as painful as the present day denials and justification from the Yorubas. The way the Armenians feels whenever Turkey denies or justifies genocide is the way Ndigbo feels whenever Yoruba justifies the shameful conducts of their leaders. In fact, it is an insult to the collective sensibilities of Ndigbo whenever such things happen. Nevertheless, we still extend the hand of friendship to our southern neighbours including the Yorubas. Ndigbo do not hate Yorubas!

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Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by EkoIle1: 9:39pm On Oct 09, 2012
ACM10:


I hate no one. I relate well with Yorubas in real life. I'm a pragmatist and a realist. I relate with my professional colleague based on their capability and not tribe. I've never allowed political consideration to colour my judgement. Meritocracy is my watchword! Unlike you who sees nothing good in Ndigbo. I have problem with people who turns history upside down. I'm only here to disabuse the minds of my fellow Ndigbo.

Finally, are you a clown in real life?


Oloshi, think next time before you challenge people for proof because you might get that proof and not like it.


The idiot is not even talking about the proof he asked for, instead he's mad and upset that somebody called his bluff and provided the proof. Your village warlord denied your people food for money to go fcukkkkk ashawo in Ivory coast. It's in the video and he did not deny it...dumb sheeps..


Typical son of old aas.....ss ibo disgruntled and Zero nobel winning ashebe the failure ibo logic..lmao

ndo

Keep it up, while I run and escape to Ivory Coast:= Ojukwu..

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Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by EkoIle1: 9:42pm On Oct 09, 2012
ACM10:

cool
Nice comment! Ndigbo have moved on. Events of that era was very painful. But it is not as painful as the present day denials and justification from the Yorubas. The way the Armenians feels whenever Turkey denies or justifies genocide is the way Ndigbo feels whenever Yoruba justifies the shameful conducts of their leaders. In fact, it is an insult to the collective sensibilities of Ndigbo whenever such things happen. Nevertheless, we still extend the hand of friendship to our southern neighbours including the Yorubas. Ndigbo do not hate Yorubas!

Obviously, lunatic old man no nobel winning and disgruntled ashebe is yet to move on and we'll help him to move is broken down as///s//s the fcukkkkkk on...lmao

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Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by Nobody: 9:48pm On Oct 09, 2012
re@lchange:

that is why they have to invent a provocation, like the biafran march towards ore
they would rather die than admit that the march was friendly, hence commanded by one of their own sons




The war @ Ore was also friendly because it was led by yoruba's Sons grin

Akpu and Ofe-Nsala loosened mouth.........Friendly indeed!!!
Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by Ufeolorun(m): 9:49pm On Oct 09, 2012
Awake9ja: @Acm
any human bein wit conscience will be wit tears after reading your post on baifran war.i hope ibos learnt their lessons.

it keep me wondering why yorubas keep moving via destructive route. you dont remind a war victim how you decimated him.

even northerners does not recount the war to ibos only yorubas does it on daily bases.i hope the yorubas knew the seed they are sowing.

yes every war victim will remind himself about his war looses. ie: china. they keep talking about japanese invasion while japanese keep mute. that is the way.

but yorubas wit loud mouth speaks more than us the beltans who fought the war.

yorubas s learn before it is too late

so far the revisionists have carefully constructed their argument/anger in a way which underplays the Northern angle while upping any Western link. I think it makes a lot of sense because the whole issue is bound to rage on,how many northerners are on-line or have time or resource to respond.
Mention Awolowo in your story and you r sure of the tribune,punch,vanguard,thenation picking your story up -if you go after Gowon or muritala,there are not enough people or platform to fight and defend them but Awolowo is a flipping lightening rod.
Remove Awo from it and this frenzy is bound to plunge.it's more driven by hate for the man rather than concern for the innocent souls caught up and the need to look into the allegation.

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Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by ACM10: 9:53pm On Oct 09, 2012
Awake9ja: @Acm
any human bein wit conscience will be wit tears after reading your post on baifran war.i hope ibos learnt their lessons.

it keep me wondering why yorubas keep moving via destructive route. you dont remind a war victim how you decimated him.

even northerners does not recount the war to ibos only yorubas does it on daily bases.i hope the yorubas knew the seed they are sowing.

yes every war victim will remind himself about his war looses. ie: china. they keep talking about japanese invasion while japanese keep mute. that is the way.

but yorubas wit loud mouth speaks more than us the beltans who fought the war.

yorubas s learn before it is too late

It's ok! There was a war picture of a Biafran child who shed blood as tears. My uncle was executed by the Nigerian troop 3 months after the Biafran surrender. So I consider it an insult to the memory of my kinsmen who suffered and died when lies supplant truth.
We only want to live in a peaceful and prosperous Nigeria where our rights and individual liberties will protected and respected. We have moved on. Hope Yorubas do the same. No need to twist events of that era. Any attempt to do such will trigger a debate like this one.
Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by baqina(m): 9:55pm On Oct 09, 2012
Na wa ooo, this thing is still trending. Please let us forget this Biafra issue and move on with our lives..biko..enough is enough.

With all modesty and fairness, Achebe ought not to have made that statement, wat is wrong is wrong. He is an elder state man and of international repute for that matter, he (Achebe) can't make that statement and expect the people concerned not to talk despite the fact that Awolowo had cleared himself before he died. Why is Achebe saying all this after d death of Ojukwu and 45 yrs after d war?...haba.

ABEG...LET THE SLEEPING DOG LIES...#my2cents.

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Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by ACM10: 9:59pm On Oct 09, 2012
Eko Ile:


Oloshi, think next time before you challenge people for proof because you might get that proof and not like it.


The idiot is not even talking about the proof he asked for, instead he's mad and upset that somebody called his bluff and provided the proof. Your village warlord denied your people food for money to go fcukkkkk ashawo in Ivory coast. It's in the video and he did not deny it...dumb sheeps..


Typical son of old aas.....ss ibo disgruntled and Zero nobel winning ashebe the failure ibo logic..lmao

ndo

Keep it up, while I run and escape to Ivory Coast:= Ojukwu..



Hope people will watch the video you posted. That's why I demanded to know whether you are a clown in real life.
Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by ACM10: 10:05pm On Oct 09, 2012
baqina: Na wa ooo, this thing is still trending. Please let us forget this Biafra issue and move on with our lives..biko..enough is enough.

With all modesty and fairness, Achebe ought not to have made that statement, wat is wrong is wrong. He is an elder state man and of international repute for that matter, he (Achebe) can't make that statement and expect the people concerned not to talk despite the fact that Awolowo had cleared himself before he died. Why is Achebe saying all this after d death of Ojukwu and 45 yrs after d war?...haba.

ABEG...LET THE SLEEPING DOG LIES...#my2cents.

Awolowo did not acquit himself in his interview. His interview was filled with lies and half-truths. Some educated minds will find his defense rather insulting. I might be forced to open a thread to bust his lies if people continues to parrot his interview as fact.
Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by UsamabinYamiri: 10:13pm On Oct 09, 2012
E be like say, You-robber people just like to provoke Ndi Igbo.
What kind of silly response is this. This is just an intellectually bankrupt response
just re-circulating tired arguments and providing no proof for the arguments you have made.
I take it, you delight ( for devilish reasons, of course) in poking a finger in the collective eyes of Ndi-Igbo.
Well, don't blame me if i take complete satisfaction anytime disaster befalls your race.
Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by UsamabinYamiri: 10:16pm On Oct 09, 2012
You-robber people just like to hear themselves speak.
This guy go think say, him don use grammer confuse/convince us.
Fa Fa fa Fowl! my friends GTFOH!
Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by UsamabinYamiri: 10:30pm On Oct 09, 2012
@Dway
You can't spell intellectual, You can't spell response. You don't even have the decency to spell Chinua correctly.
Did you even finish secondary school. Did you even read the arguments you copied and pasted. If you did, was there any internal
validity to it, and how did you re-appraise it in light of new information.
Abi na just to regurgitate you dey. Oloshi.

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Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by baqina(m): 10:58pm On Oct 09, 2012
ACM10:

Awolowo did not acquit himself in his interview. His interview was filled with lies and half-truths. Some educated minds will find his defense rather insulting. I might be forced to open a thread to bust his lies if people continues to parrot his interview as fact.

Am not bothered with what Awolowo said, my main concern is d way this thing has turned out to be especially on social media, it is as if d war was between the Yorubas and the Igbos, we have all forgotten how the war started which was the killing of igbos in the northern part of the country (that was the genesis of the crisis) and the Yorubas should keep quiet, they did not start and win the war.

My biggest problem is in what Achebe said, no reasonable people will hear that and not respond. Why is that only it is only Achebe that is talking 45 yrs after?,45 yrs is a long time, some people that were born that time have started having grand children. He Achiebe did not make a public declaration or statement about the war but quoted it in his book he is about to sell...can you imagine?

Why are the principal actors alive today not talking? Gowon & co.

Awolowo did not deny the seizure of the food, he said the federal govt ordered the food to be stopped because the foods were not getting to the masses, the soldiers hijacked the foods to themselves....what else do you want him to say or do? And he did clarified this before he died but for somebody to now come up and accused him again after so many yrs..haba...wt all fairness and sincerity let us all judge it.

Let us stop ds fights, it won't lead anywhere. If Yorubas were bad we won't have millions of Igbos in Lagos and thousands in Ibadan.

Yorubas too need to at least be less noisy, they did not start nor win the war.
Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by T9ksy(m): 11:24pm On Oct 09, 2012
ACM10:

Awolowo did not acquit himself in his interview. His interview was filled with lies and half-truths. Some educated minds will find his defense rather insulting. I might be forced to open a thread to bust his lies if people continues to parrot his interview as fact.

Please do but before rushing off to open your thread, can you pause a minute and respond to the FACT here on this thread.

Here's Ojukwu in his usual arrogant poise proudly admitting to charging relief agencies "Landing fees", before they are allowed to feed his

starving people. The same people you lot have been whining for years that, awolowo starved!
Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by ebere1712: 11:50pm On Oct 09, 2012
Eko Ile:

Olodo son of disgruntled and hate filled ashebe.....



Here is your proof...fast forward to 2:22. Ojuku spoke after and he did not deny it..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSqhqP3U-t4&playnext=1&list=PL673224D81863E03C&feature=results_video


The clown said don't bring food for my people to eat unless you pay landing fee. It's even sad listening to the fool saying the fee was for currency change and some idiotic nonsense while his people are dying. What a scum bag...


Keep up the good work, I'm running off to Ivory coast.:- Ojukwu.
yoroslaves lie, yoroslaves are cowards, yoroslaves are braindead. yoroslaves are delusional. I remember asking one demmy on this site; about what happened to their land and his fellow slaves in ilorin. This is his response

demmy:

Unlike you we consider Fulanis our countrymen and fellow black people. No hate. No bitterness. Infact in Ilorin today hardly any family without yoruba/fulani blood. We leave hatred, bitterness and division to you iboz. Cure yourselves or hate will consume you. Again.


This is fulani response to the yororace
fulani herdsmen to yororace
https://www.nairaland.com/856523/fulani-herdsman-chops-off-man
http://trends.com.ng/2012/07/fulani-herdsmen-kill-general-lagos-ibadan-expressway-punch/#sthash.iVeURmiW.dpbs
http://www..com/talk/topic,32804.0/wap2.html
http://www.ipaidabribenaija.com/index.php/latest-news/item/9993-suspected-fulani-herdsmen-kill-council-chief

farouk to yororace
http://africanheraldexpress.com/blog7/2012/08/14/north-replies-asari-we-subdued-yorubas-we-will-do-it-again/

buhari to yororace
http://pointblanknews.com/pbn/photo-news/behold-yoruba-leader-bows-to-the-fulani-warlord-all-in-desperate-bid-for-power/

Sanusi to yororace

http://transformationwatch.com/2012/01/31/yorubas-are-the-problem-with-nigeria-by-sanusi-lamido-sanusi/

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Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by ebere1712: 12:02am On Oct 10, 2012
Even history speaks volumes of the yororace. First they get conquered by the edo and taken for slaves. Then they get conquered by the ijaw and taken for slaves. Then they get conquered by the usman-dan-gay and taken for slaves. British came and also took them for slaves. Half of their population must now worship usman-dan-gay, mohammed-dan-gay, and their fellow fulani gay warlords grin

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Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by AndreUweh(m): 12:08am On Oct 10, 2012
ebere1712: Even history speaks volumes of the yororace. First they get conquered by the edo and taken for slaves. Then they get conquered by the ijaw and taken for slaves. Then they get conquered by the usman-dan-gay and taken for slaves. British came and also took them for slaves. Half of their population must now worship usman-dan-gay, mohammed-dan-gay, and their fellow fulani gay warlords grin
Ijaws conquer the yoruba race, are you serious?. The Ijaws have never been interested in conquering people. Their only concern is fishing.
Re: An Intelectual Responce To Chinue Achebe by dayokanu(m): 12:20am On Oct 10, 2012
ACM10:

Awolowo did not acquit himself in his interview. His interview was filled with lies and half-truths. Some educated minds will find his defense rather insulting. I might be forced to open a thread to bust his lies if people continues to parrot his interview as fact.

Bros was that not the way you promised to get us a particular book from your grandmothers library. Its going to a year now

Why cant you just be a man of your words for once.

The book in your village, we still await it

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